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ShadowNinja |
rubenwardy: Yeah, I just pushed a patch to address the comment sfan5 had on my fixes, should be good to merge now. |
| 02:10 |
rubenwardy |
!title https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest/commit/b704a280e1d74bcd8b5dc3a3df968ba650ac374d |
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ShadowBot |
rubenwardy: Add link to web version of lua_api.txt · rubenwardy/minetest b704a28 · GitHub |
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rubenwardy |
trivial PR to remove link to dev wiki, and add link to web formatted lua_api.txt |
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sfan5 |
lgmt |
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sfan5 |
s/mt/tm/ |
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rubenwardy |
merging #12015 in 10 |
| 13:38 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12015 -- [no squash] Various minor fixes by ShadowNinja |
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rubenwardy |
sfan5, Krock: are you around for a meeting at 7pm UTC on Sunday? |
| 13:47 |
sfan5 |
thats pretty late |
| 13:47 |
sfan5 |
but sure |
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rubenwardy |
I can do earlier |
| 13:49 |
rubenwardy |
I'm free all evening, if you a preferred time |
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sfan5 |
6pm utc? |
| 13:52 |
rubenwardy |
sure |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> ey. there is possible to export 3d figures to minetest nodes? |
| 13:57 |
MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> means - from files, not to generate cybes from images |
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MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> This IRC channel is for Minetest engine dev discussion, not for general chat. Message edits also don't work over IRC. (For MT->mesh there's https://content.minetest.net/packages/random_geek/meshport/, dunno about the other way around.) |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> ah, ok nvm |
| 14:29 |
MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> just that i was asking if core have a function to use 3d art... (not cubes) |
| 14:36 |
sfan5 |
you can use meshes instead of "cubes" for a appearance of a node |
| 14:36 |
MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> not this... from a file.. |
| 14:38 |
sfan5 |
and what is that file |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> from 3d editor |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> (blender) |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> .obj file |
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sfan5 |
minetest supports that format |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> ? |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> didnt knew.... |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> thought it asembles 3d objects from 2d images |
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rubenwardy |
weird assumption |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> cause why sometimes im seeing non-filled nodes far away? looks like asembling 3d art from 2d squares |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> like this xscreensavers |
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erle |
hacknorris what do you mean with “non-filled nodes”? |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> empty, made like origami |
| 15:30 |
MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> (yep i know a little japanese cuture) |
| 15:30 |
erle |
please provide a screenshot |
| 15:31 |
MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> its irc lol. how? |
| 15:31 |
erle |
upload it to https://mister-muffin.de/paste |
| 15:31 |
erle |
then post the link here |
| 15:31 |
erle |
there are some circumstances, in which the engine does render stuff wrong, but your origami thing does not ring a bell |
| 15:33 |
erle |
sofar i recently encountered a situation on “inside the box” where i stood for a long time doing nothing and when i turned around that part of the box that i had not watched had unloaded and never loaded again. do you think this a minetest client, minetest server, or “inside the box” bug? |
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erle |
“a long time” being like 20+ minutes or so |
| 15:35 |
MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> means - not that lag im just asking if its possible to use .obj files (filled) while nodes are cubes made out of images, not 3 art |
| 15:37 |
MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> and this (no its not a bug, just a cheap laggy lap) : https://mister-muffin.de/p/ynxu.png |
| 15:38 |
MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> at the ends... its not a 3d cube filled with "water" just a 3d cube made out of "paper" which is just 6 images... |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> and im thinking about 3d art |
| 15:40 |
erle |
hacknorris your screenshot is perfectly okay, i don't see the problem. where is the bug? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> hacknorris: 3d rendering is always surface based |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> (or almost always) |
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erle |
hacknorris if you want advice on how to make nodes that have an obj model, let's discuss this in #minetest – i can help you. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> you can specify fill colors for when the viewer is inside the node |
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erle |
there are multiple techniques |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> backface culling etc. might expose that it's implemented this way |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> its possible to make a sphere in minetest? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> but OBJs are no different, they are based on tris as well |
| 15:41 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> hacknorris: yes, by approximating it using triangles |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> ? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Technically even a sprite would work |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> hacknorris: you need a sphere 3d model |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> i can make |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> i have some apps |
| 15:43 |
MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> this is the way "little lady" was done? or what? |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> (from contentdb |
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erle |
hacknorris, go to #minetest |
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MTDiscord |
<hacknorris> saw |
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rubenwardy |
#12185 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12185 -- Separate register and login by rubenwardy |
| 16:30 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> that is awesome, way more intuitive than the old system |
| 16:31 |
erle |
> One caveat is that it's possible to register from login, and login from register. This will require network protocol changes to fix |
| 16:32 |
erle |
rubenwardy could you elaborate why it would require the network protocol to be changed? |
| 16:32 |
erle |
(ideally in the PR description, so others can see it there, too) |
| 16:45 |
rubenwardy |
erle: "One caveat is that it's possible to register from login, and login from register." |
| 16:45 |
rubenwardy |
I believe network changes are needed to fix this |
| 16:45 |
rubenwardy |
updated PR description |
| 16:55 |
erle |
rubenwardy i still don't get what exactly you want to achieve here. this is how i imagine it: to figure out if a player name is taken, you use TOSERVER_INIT and see what you get back. |
| 16:56 |
erle |
i am not seeing a case here where the network protocol needs to be changed, only a case where the handling of the responses needs to be changed depending on context |
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rubenwardy |
well, that's up to sfan5 really |
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erle |
still, i might have missed some side effects |
| 16:58 |
erle |
that is why i am asking |
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erle |
rubenwardy my proposal to check if a username is available, you can look at the TOCLIENT_HELLO. if the registration mechanism is AUTH_MECHANISM_FIRST_SRP, the username is available. otherwise, it is not. however, i have not thought about this too long. |
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sfan5 |
I got bit by a known bug in our thread implementation again |
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sfan5 |
if a thread immediately exits then start() misses it and continues waiting for m_running to become true |
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rubenwardy |
would probably be worth moving to std::thread |
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rubenwardy |
oh wait, it is a wrapper over std::thread?! |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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sfan5 |
good news: the hard parts of #11131 are all done |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11131 -- Async environment for mods to do concurrent tasks by sfan5 |
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Zughy[m] |
(don't forget to link the issue sfan5, right now it's not linked) |
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sfan5 |
okay so here's the question |
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sfan5 |
should I call the in-memory thing that transfers Lua objects "serialization" or "packer"? or something else? |
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erle |
well, what do you want to convey? |
| 22:02 |
erle |
serialization implies deserialization, packing implies unpacking |
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sfan5 |
I want to convey that it does not pack data into a byte buffer that could be put away somewhere, it's an in-memory representation |
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MisterE[m] |
holo_trans? |
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MisterE[m] |
Cerealpack? |
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MisterE[m] |
More seriously, "luaconveyor"? |
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erle |
sfan5 in what way does it matter that it is in memory? does it contain ephemeral pointers? is there some cow magic going on? |
| 22:17 |
erle |
suggesting something similar to serialization is probably a bad idea it can not be “put away somewhere” (i.e. written to disk or so) |
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sfan5 |
in-memory = instance of a class, e.g. you cannot take one object and write it to disk |
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