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Fixer |
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well i gtg to bed cyall tomorrow |
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| 08:34 |
Atorian37 |
hi all, i wonder why the android client takes up to 5 minutes to connect to my server while the windows client has about 20 seks until it is loaded to play? it is on the same network... any idea where i have to dig for that? |
| 08:50 |
CWz |
holy crap the is a 0.4.12 server on the serverlist |
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| 08:51 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 08:51 |
Atorian37 |
...a mt-museum maybe ;-)... hi tenplus1 |
| 08:52 |
tenplus1 |
hi Atorian |
| 08:53 |
Atorian37 |
maybe youv got an idea tenplus1, why my server takes up to 5 mins when i connect with android..., it stops by "media"...with linux/win all ok |
| 08:53 |
tenplus1 |
stops altogether or just loads really slowly ?? |
| 08:53 |
Atorian37 |
it seems to "pause" |
| 08:54 |
tenplus1 |
and you've ruled out the usual memory restraints, out of space, network connection speed ?? |
| 08:54 |
Atorian37 |
i am not really into mobile devices... but after this 5 mins it works... |
| 08:54 |
Raven262 |
Hello tenplus1 |
| 08:54 |
tenplus1 |
do you have a virus/spyware scanner on mobile ? |
| 08:54 |
tenplus1 |
hi raven |
| 08:54 |
Atorian37 |
network is ok.... |
| 08:55 |
Atorian37 |
hmmm i will check again but not as far as i remember... |
| 08:55 |
Atorian37 |
space is also ok, the memory is 1gb, should be ok? |
| 08:56 |
tenplus1 |
1gb is ok but all depends what android is taking up and apps running in background... |
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| 08:56 |
CWz |
cool a evil mobed give my cart a push |
| 08:57 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe, hi CWz |
| 08:58 |
Atorian37 |
as i realise upon your reaction, it is nothing known... I will check the memory, too |
| 08:58 |
tenplus1 |
those are the first port of call when checking if a game doesnt load properly... |
| 08:59 |
tenplus1 |
also how much media does the actual server have, on a mobile device it could load and save to cache real slow |
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| 08:59 |
tenplus1 |
hi sniper |
| 09:00 |
Atorian37 |
is there a setting to make this media caching faster for mobile devices? I think intuitively, that could be the cause... |
| 09:00 |
tenplus1 |
it caches to your internal memory or sd card, so having a faster sd card would help |
| 09:01 |
Atorian37 |
can i set somewhere where it caches to? |
| 09:01 |
Atorian37 |
it should be in the cleint? |
| 09:01 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example |
| 09:02 |
tenplus1 |
that shows all of the settings for minetest.conf file that you can change which may help |
| 09:04 |
Shara |
Morning all |
| 09:04 |
tenplus1 |
hi shara :P |
| 09:04 |
Shara |
Atorian37: do you get the same issue on all servers, or just that one? |
| 09:05 |
Atorian37 |
hi Shara, I am testing right now, get back in a few secs |
| 09:05 |
tenplus1 |
is it helps, try Xanadu server... it's light on media (1.5mb) |
| 09:06 |
Shara |
Yup, Xanadu is usper light :) |
| 09:06 |
Shara |
super* |
| 09:07 |
CWz |
How do mob spawners work? |
| 09:07 |
tenplus1 |
in mobs redo / |
| 09:08 |
CWz |
yes |
| 09:08 |
tenplus1 |
place and right click, will appear with a string like this: mobs_animal:pumba 10 15 0 0 |
| 09:09 |
tenplus1 |
<mob to spawn> <min light needed> <max light needed> <amount to spawn around spawner, 0 to disable> <distance from player before triggered> |
| 09:09 |
tenplus1 |
runs every 10 seconds with 1 in 4 chance of spawning |
| 09:11 |
Atorian37 |
its the same on other servers...not only on mine. i tried the apple tree survival pve & build, it took about 2 mins... but not 5 like mine. where do i reduce the "media" load? |
| 09:12 |
Shara |
media is server side |
| 09:12 |
tenplus1 |
yup, you either optimize all of the media (shrink images and sounds) or get a faster sd card for your mobile |
| 09:13 |
Shara |
Just be aware that most servers with a high number of mods, or that use speciial textures, might have a very slow connection for you as things are |
| 09:14 |
Shara |
Not that many admins seem to take steps to reduce media |
| 09:14 |
tenplus1 |
*cough* |
| 09:14 |
* Shara |
hands tenplus1 a throat sweet |
| 09:14 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
| 09:14 |
tenplus1 |
ta! |
| 09:14 |
Shara |
:D |
| 09:15 |
Atorian37 |
:) ok... thanks, i will check what i can reduce on my server... |
| 09:16 |
Shara |
Most images can be reduced |
| 09:16 |
tenplus1 |
what's your server name Atorian ? |
| 09:22 |
tenplus1 |
o.O |
| 09:25 |
tenplus1 |
Atorian37: what's your server called ??? |
| 09:25 |
CWz |
Time to create the Dungeon slave mob |
| 09:26 |
CWz |
... |
| 09:26 |
CWz |
eh next week |
| 09:26 |
Atorian37 |
sorry had a phone call. my server is that one: minetest.homelinux.net:30005 0/10 0/2 0.4.15, minetest, v6 |
| 09:26 |
Atorian37 |
> G R Ü E Z I ! |
| 09:26 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, dungeon slave :P beats the silverfish I have there already :D |
| 09:26 |
tenplus1 |
connecting |
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| 09:33 |
tenplus1 |
hi twoelk |
| 09:33 |
twoelk |
hi |
| 09:36 |
tenplus1 |
'nice server :P |
| 09:36 |
Atorian37 |
thank you :)) |
| 09:36 |
tenplus1 |
if you try Xanadu you'll see ambience lite in action... even has jungle sounds for night/day :D |
| 09:37 |
tenplus1 |
Q. if I place sound files inside a texture pack will minetest use those instead of existing one's on server ??? |
| 09:37 |
tenplus1 |
was that update added alread y? |
| 09:39 |
twoelk |
pff, I just checked my screenshots folder and noticed I have subfolders for some 50 different public servers I have visited |
| 09:39 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 09:40 |
twoelk |
now if I built on only half of them . . . |
| 09:43 |
* Shara |
liked the little cottage :P |
| 09:43 |
CWz |
great weild hand is glitching out |
| 09:45 |
twoelk |
thx, first time I used or rather missused them bookcase doors |
| 09:47 |
twoelk |
btw, Shara, I was just organizing some irc channels. what was the one for redcatcreative? |
| 09:49 |
CWz |
bug with the wield view |
| 09:49 |
CWz |
https://youtu.be/2xrDmT7YaIo |
| 09:53 |
* twoelk |
thinks KVIrc could do better with organizing channels by user preferences |
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| 10:05 |
tenplus1 |
hi paramat |
| 10:06 |
Shara |
Hi paramat |
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| 10:08 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 10:11 |
Jordach |
eeeeee |
| 10:11 |
Jordach |
4 days to prime day |
| 10:11 |
CWz |
anyone know of an CSM mod that displays the irl time on the hud |
| 10:12 |
Jordach |
that's a piece of cake |
| 10:12 |
Jordach |
for anyone |
| 10:14 |
* Jordach |
is testing out a friends ATH-M50X |
| 10:26 |
tenplus1 |
hrm... wasn't there a change added to allow local sounds to be used like texture packs ????? |
| 10:26 |
tenplus1 |
am I missing something here |
| 10:27 |
Shara |
I thin it was talked about, not sure if it ever happened |
| 10:27 |
tenplus1 |
could have sworn something was added within last month |
| 10:27 |
* tenplus1 |
is going nuts |
| 10:27 |
twoelk |
don't sounds go into the sounds folder? |
| 10:29 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, checking |
| 10:30 |
tenplus1 |
sounds folder is in .minetest folder ? |
| 10:30 |
tenplus1 |
or is that withint texture pack ? |
| 10:34 |
twoelk |
hm, I have my main_menu.ogg in sounds parallel to the bin folder |
| 10:34 |
Jordach |
fun fact, main menu loads lua relative to bin |
| 10:34 |
tenplus1 |
wait, it has to go in bin folder ? |
| 10:35 |
Jordach |
twoelk, tenplus1: the main menu expects /minetest_dir/bin/ as the lua file path |
| 10:35 |
tenplus1 |
I want users to add sound packs for ambience mod so supply music |
| 10:35 |
tenplus1 |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Sound_Packs |
| 10:35 |
twoelk |
oh, and ambience in testsounds, wonder wether that still works |
| 10:35 |
Jordach |
however, you can do /minetest_dir/bin/../builtin/mainmenu |
| 10:36 |
tenplus1 |
nup, sounds folder or testsounds folder inside .minetest doesntwork |
| 10:36 |
tenplus1 |
still plays old sound |
| 10:37 |
twoelk |
strange, my mainmenu tune still works |
| 10:38 |
tenplus1 |
files are names ambience_song.1.ogg to .6.ogg and was hoping the silent files would be replaced by the actual music files locally |
| 10:39 |
twoelk |
wasn't local overriding the base idea of the sounds folder? |
| 10:39 |
tenplus1 |
that's what I was hoping... |
| 10:40 |
tenplus1 |
ah ok, it works now |
| 10:40 |
twoelk |
you could rename one to main_menu.ogg to see if minetest finds the folder |
| 10:40 |
tenplus1 |
I had to delete original audio files from mod itself for it to force load them from sounds folder |
| 10:40 |
twoelk |
ah |
| 10:41 |
tenplus1 |
but... it stalls minetest while loading in media |
| 10:41 |
twoelk |
still loads the local media into the cache? |
| 10:41 |
tenplus1 |
nothing in cache |
| 10:42 |
tenplus1 |
prolly cause media is 1.2mb on it's won |
| 10:42 |
tenplus1 |
*own |
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| 10:43 |
tenplus1 |
hi calcul0n |
| 10:44 |
twoelk |
some time ago I had experimented with market sounds that change as you wander over the market. as mt sort of kept loosing sounds I somewhat lost interest |
| 10:45 |
tenplus1 |
I have added a timer to ambience lite mod and when it hits a certain number of seconds (10 mins) it'll play "ambience_music" and select from .1 .2 .3 .4 etc |
| 10:46 |
tenplus1 |
I coudl make it the same as minecraft though and have random tune play at sunset, noon or sunrise |
| 10:47 |
tenplus1 |
in fact, yeah... that soundsbetter than the timer :DDD |
| 10:47 |
Shara |
I sort of dislike sounds at a given time of day unless there is a gameplay related reason to need to knwo the precise time |
| 10:47 |
Shara |
know* |
| 10:47 |
Shara |
For example, know when night starts/ends could help players on DL, but on most servers it seems needless |
| 10:47 |
tenplus1 |
ambience music can be disabled |
| 10:47 |
twoelk |
well mining deep could be a reason |
| 10:48 |
tenplus1 |
but if I have it play a random song at sunrise and sunset then it's all good :D |
| 10:48 |
Shara |
twoelk: But if you are mining, why does knowing the time actually matter? |
| 10:48 |
Shara |
It doesn't change the gameplay for you |
| 10:48 |
twoelk |
underground activity of mobs on some servers is still related to daytime |
| 10:48 |
twoelk |
*time of day |
| 10:49 |
Shara |
Hmm, that's not the norm though |
| 10:49 |
Shara |
Liek I said, if the server has done something to make it matter, it's a good thing |
| 10:49 |
twoelk |
don't tha bad npc change behaviour at night on xanadu? |
| 10:50 |
tenplus1 |
spiders are daytime docile, so at night they attack players |
| 10:50 |
Shara |
Light level related only I think, so meaningless underground |
| 10:50 |
tenplus1 |
certain mobs spawn at night, yes |
| 10:50 |
Shara |
But yea, it's something |
| 10:50 |
Shara |
I just really want sound effects/music that is more subtle than "plays tune at a set time" :( |
| 10:56 |
twoelk |
the minimal use of music and the very unhectic tunes was one of the things that I really liked in mc - might be different today though |
| 10:56 |
calcul0n |
hello |
| 10:56 |
twoelk |
o/ |
| 10:57 |
tenplus1 |
works surprisingly well... plays music at midnight and noon |
| 10:57 |
tenplus1 |
wish I could get a hold of RBA's techno music, link doesnt work :( |
| 10:58 |
twoelk |
that was a little too exiting for my liking |
| 10:58 |
* twoelk |
looks if he still has a copy |
| 10:58 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 10:59 |
tenplus1 |
gonan change it to midnight only :D |
| 11:00 |
twoelk |
hm I have zip called mtmusic-rba worth 386mb |
| 11:00 |
tenplus1 |
oof |
| 11:00 |
tenplus1 |
was the pack he used on original ambiance mod forumn page... |
| 11:02 |
twoelk |
technic-ambience with 18mb? |
| 11:02 |
tenplus1 |
yeah :DD |
| 11:02 |
tenplus1 |
that's the one |
| 11:03 |
twoelk |
I'll upload it this afternoon to dropbox or something - remind me again |
| 11:03 |
tenplus1 |
thankies :PP |
| 11:04 |
twoelk |
maybe vanessa has a version on her media server? |
| 11:04 |
paramat |
yes MC's use of music is good, no over-deliberate connection with environment or time |
| 11:04 |
tenplus1 |
k, it's changed so that it plays at midnight each day... |
| 11:04 |
tenplus1 |
1 song a day :D |
| 11:07 |
Atorian37 |
tenplus1, the ambience light does not play any music right? |
| 11:07 |
tenplus1 |
nope, sounds only... but... if you have music files available in your local sounds folder then it will :D |
| 11:08 |
Atorian37 |
ahh thats the piont, tnx |
| 11:08 |
Atorian37 |
*point |
| 11:14 |
tenplus1 |
the only annoying part is the loading of the audio file, it stalls game until done |
| 11:20 |
Atorian37 |
but it stalls it only for the player login in? |
| 11:20 |
tenplus1 |
no, when it loads music file for the first time in the middle of a game it stalls client |
| 11:22 |
Atorian37 |
ok but not the server for all players, thats ok |
| 11:22 |
tenplus1 |
server is fine, yes |
| 11:23 |
Atorian37 |
but the light version is now loaded within 1 minute on the android, thats fine .) |
| 11:23 |
Atorian37 |
:) |
| 11:23 |
tenplus1 |
sweet :P |
| 11:23 |
tenplus1 |
will update shortly to new version, final testing |
| 11:34 |
twoelk |
lol, I seem to have frozen my dropbox, should have waited until I'm on a faster connection |
| 11:34 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
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| 11:35 |
tenplus1 |
hithomas |
| 11:35 |
ThomasMonroe |
hey ten |
| 11:37 |
tenplus1 |
Ambience Redo 0.9 released, can now play music files on server or local client (not included) https://github.com/tenplus1/ambience |
| 11:41 |
ThomasMonroe |
thats neat |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
| 12:01 |
JordachL |
hm] |
| 12:02 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 12:02 |
tenplus1 |
Ambience Redo 0.9 released, can now play music files on server or local client (not included) https://github.com/tenplus1/ambience |
| 12:02 |
JordachL |
dropouts are related to marvell wifi being literally worse than aetheros on ubuntu |
| 12:02 |
paramat |
new mapgen added! |
| 12:02 |
JordachL |
i like the sound of that |
| 12:03 |
JordachL |
tempted to eventually disable the option to use other mapgens in Solar Plains |
| 12:04 |
tenplus1 |
w00t, has it layers paramat? |
| 12:05 |
JordachL |
links pls |
| 12:10 |
red-001 |
oh btw have you see my port of your mod to CSM tenplus1 ? |
| 12:10 |
tenplus1 |
which mod ? |
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| 12:15 |
tenplus1 |
hi NathanS21 |
| 12:15 |
NathanS21 |
hi tenplus1 |
| 12:15 |
tenplus1 |
what's new ? :P |
| 12:16 |
NathanS21 |
Maybe getting my house today, after waiting for three months |
| 12:16 |
tenplus1 |
ooh nice one :) |
| 12:17 |
tenplus1 |
is it in a nice area ? |
| 12:17 |
NathanS21 |
My closing has been pushed back so many times already. |
| 12:17 |
NathanS21 |
A very nice area |
| 12:17 |
tenplus1 |
+100 :P |
| 12:17 |
NathanS21 |
street on two sides, and then an alley behind |
| 12:17 |
NathanS21 |
so I have one neighbor |
| 12:17 |
tenplus1 |
incase you need to evade cops :D ehehe |
| 12:17 |
NathanS21 |
funeral home across the street to the one side |
| 12:18 |
NathanS21 |
and a small business district on the opposite side of my one neighbor, |
| 12:18 |
NathanS21 |
very quiet area |
| 12:18 |
tenplus1 |
sounds good :D |
| 12:19 |
NathanS21 |
hardwood floors, it's really nice |
| 12:19 |
NathanS21 |
needs some work, but nothing I shouldn't be able to handle with some time |
| 12:20 |
tenplus1 |
*cough* gaming room |
| 12:20 |
NathanS21 |
Well that will be my bedroom |
| 12:20 |
Atorian37 |
thank you tenplus1, second "update" on the same day... looks good |
| 12:21 |
paramat |
onety-one, no layers, it's not by me |
| 12:21 |
tenplus1 |
paramat: what kinda mapgen is it ? |
| 12:21 |
tenplus1 |
Atorian37: you can copy the music files from the original ambience mod and place them inside your sounds folder locally for them to work still :P |
| 12:22 |
* tenplus1 |
is testing RBA's techno mix |
| 12:23 |
Atorian37 |
ok, I will chec k that right now... could serve them for players on a webserver for dl maybe... |
| 12:23 |
tenplus1 |
yeah :P this way they can choose music to their own tastes |
| 12:23 |
tenplus1 |
even minecraft tunes :P ehehe |
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| 12:26 |
tenplus1 |
hi RobbieF |
| 12:27 |
Atorian37 |
tenplus1, what is the default sounds folder on the clientside? (actually using win7) |
| 12:28 |
tenplus1 |
the minetest folder you place texture packs inside, make a sounds folder and plop them in there |
| 12:31 |
paramat |
onety-one see the PR thread |
| 12:32 |
tenplus1 |
am on git and see no new commits for mapgen apart from mgv6 ores |
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tenplus1 |
hi Fixer |
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tenplus1 |
wb celeron |
| 12:38 |
RobbieF |
hi tenplus1 |
| 12:38 |
RobbieF |
catch the show? |
| 12:38 |
tenplus1 |
not yet :P was working on mobs and ambience... will check now :DDD |
| 12:39 |
tenplus1 |
ep 510 ? |
| 12:42 |
tenplus1 |
w00t LXDE :PPP mah fav. |
| 12:43 |
JordachL |
gahk |
| 12:43 |
JordachL |
i feel like total shit |
| 12:43 |
tenplus1 |
whassup dude ? |
| 12:43 |
JordachL |
something something i should eT |
| 12:43 |
JordachL |
eat |
| 12:44 |
tenplus1 |
that extra spring roll was dodgy huh? |
| 12:44 |
tenplus1 |
RobbieF: is 510 the show that has the VR stuff innit ? |
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| 12:48 |
Atorian37 |
tnx tenplus1, "sounds" great ;) |
| 12:48 |
tenplus1 |
working ok ? |
| 12:49 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 12:49 |
tenplus1 |
hi Cal |
| 12:51 |
Atorian37 |
checking right now |
| 12:51 |
tenplus1 |
will update Xanadu later tonight and test some local music on client for it :P |
| 13:00 |
red-001 |
https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/05/23/stack-overflow-helping-one-million-developers-exit-vim/ |
| 13:00 |
red-001 |
{off} it seems that ukraine is the worst at exiting VIM |
| 13:00 |
tenplus1 |
lololol |
| 13:01 |
Fixer |
at least we tried vim |
| 13:01 |
JordachL |
LMAO |
| 13:01 |
JordachL |
>CSS |
| 13:02 |
JordachL |
you're using the wrong shit jquery dev |
| 13:02 |
JordachL |
go install brackets.io] |
| 13:02 |
JordachL |
then call it an evening :sunglasses: |
| 13:03 |
JordachL |
don't you just love stupid webdevs who don't realise that C/++ runs everything |
| 13:03 |
JordachL |
when confronted with those tools, >how to exit vim# |
| 13:04 |
Calinou |
C/C++ don't quite run everything today |
| 13:04 |
Calinou |
they run a lot of system tools and basically all games except Minecraft |
| 13:04 |
Calinou |
but... most web back-ends are not C or C++ |
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JordachL |
Calinou, Java is just still C at it's core |
| 13:05 |
Calinou |
yes, in fact LWJGL is mostly C |
| 13:05 |
tenplus1 |
*shudder* java |
| 13:05 |
Calinou |
Minecraft uses LWJGL, so it uses native code indirectly |
| 13:07 |
tenplus1 |
wait... I isntalled that for linux as well when testing minecraft... |
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tenplus1 |
hi lisac |
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lisac |
Hey tenplus1 |
| 13:08 |
lisac |
local store is selling apricots 1kg for ~1/3€ |
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lisac |
I didn't know I could eat this many of them |
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tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
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ThomasMonroe |
lol apricots are good |
| 13:09 |
ThomasMonroe |
i dont get alot of those in Texas |
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Calinou |
Minecraft used to ship with a very outdated LWJGL version (from like, 2009) |
| 13:09 |
Calinou |
updating it brought you slight performance improvements and bug fixes |
| 13:09 |
Calinou |
(since it's unmodified, you could do this) |
| 13:09 |
ThomasMonroe |
woah that is old |
| 13:09 |
Calinou |
but now it's up-to-date |
| 13:10 |
* Calinou |
will upgrade his Debian 8 VM to Debian 9 |
| 13:10 |
Calinou |
I use it only for testing AppImages anyway, I also have a Fedora 25 one |
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* tenplus1 |
wonders if ubuntu 17.10 is built with debian 9 packages |
| 13:10 |
Calinou |
testing on latest Debian + latest Fedora + latest Ubuntu should be a fairly safe bet |
| 13:10 |
Calinou |
Ubuntu 17.10 will have more recent software than Debian 9 |
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Calinou |
since Ubuntu bases itself on either Testing or Unstable |
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tenplus1 |
ooh, even better :DDD |
| 13:11 |
JordachL |
https://open.spotify.com/track/0oSyI05eexswATGWa0qGRR :D |
| 13:11 |
tenplus1 |
the Lubuntu 17.10 alpha 1 flash drive I booted from was really smooth, even noveau graphics |
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* Calinou |
edited the sources.list, time to dist-upgrade |
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JordachL |
Calinou, fucking catn.com 404ing me |
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tenplus1 |
what distro you using cal ??? |
| 13:14 |
tenplus1 |
wb thomas |
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JordachL |
manjaro |
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JordachL |
:^) |
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Calinou |
tenplus1: Debian in a VM |
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Calinou |
my native OS is still Windows 10 |
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JordachL |
^^^ |
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tenplus1 |
dont they have an update manager to handle dist upgrades ? |
| 13:17 |
Calinou |
they do |
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Calinou |
you edit sources.list, then "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" |
| 13:17 |
tenplus1 |
heh, so manually then :PPP |
| 13:17 |
Calinou |
Ubuntu has "do-release-upgrade", which does that + a few more things |
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tenplus1 |
I moved from 16.10 to 17.04 using: sudo update-manager -d |
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Fixer |
*,..,,,* |
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RobbieF |
tenplus1 no 511 is the Virtual Reality show |
| 13:20 |
tenplus1 |
I dont see 511 on the site dude |
| 13:20 |
tenplus1 |
510 is the latest |
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RobbieF |
no, 511 was live last night. It goes up on-demand later today. |
| 13:20 |
RobbieF |
you'd have had to catch it live. |
| 13:20 |
RobbieF |
or wait till it's up on the site :D |
| 13:20 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, will get it tonight in that case :DDD |
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Calinou |
tenplus1: yes, you can upgrade either with GUI or CLI in Ubuntu |
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Calinou |
Debian is CLI-only, and they call themselves "ready for the desktop", lol |
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Calinou |
(nobody takes Debian seriously as a desktop distro) |
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Calinou |
(even the developers sometimes, I'd say) |
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tenplus1 |
the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is what I do every few days to install updates normally |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
"sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" is a shorter version, which works since Ubuntu 14.04 and Debian 8 |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
(read: literally anywhere) |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
apt is nice, but doesn't have autocompletion IIRC |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
but for updates you don't need it |
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Calinou |
it also provides a persistent progress bar and colors the output a bit |
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JordachL |
Calinou, still no support for the surface pro :( |
| 13:24 |
tenplus1 |
?? Ubuntu can be installed on surface pro without issue |
| 13:24 |
Calinou |
Linux works like crap on Surface Pros really |
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Calinou |
(coincidence, I think not, whatever) |
| 13:24 |
JordachL |
i bought a copy of win 10 pro |
| 13:24 |
JordachL |
the license cost the same as the machine, so i got a surface for free lmao |
| 13:24 |
Calinou |
tons of things don't work or are buggy |
| 13:24 |
Calinou |
>buying Windows |
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JordachL |
it's even got the sticker :D |
| 13:24 |
Calinou |
our friend whose name starts with a K and ends with an o does it for you, you know |
| 13:24 |
RobbieF |
K tenplus1 - sure hope you enjoy! |
| 13:25 |
RobbieF |
was a great show |
| 13:25 |
RobbieF |
Calinou are you kidding me? |
| 13:25 |
tenplus1 |
:PPP |
| 13:25 |
RobbieF |
http://category5.tv/shows/clips_tech/episode/509-debian-stretch-stable/ |
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JordachL |
Calinou, my desktops win 10 pro key was a dreamspark key before the restrictions :DDDDDD |
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JordachL |
so it ended up become a retail key |
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JordachL |
-become |
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Calinou |
RobbieF: no :D |
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tenplus1 |
hrm, volume buttons and webcam have issue, but everything else runs ok |
| 13:26 |
RobbieF |
Then you are very, very wrong Calinou. |
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JordachL |
tenplus1, i boot to windows in 2 seconds :D |
| 13:26 |
RobbieF |
You're subscribing yourself to a 10 year old view of Debian |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
oh, the desktop thing |
| 13:27 |
RobbieF |
Which is described in the video above |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
well, it still has a terrible desktop experience |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
compared to, well Ubuntu or even Fedora |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
(source: I have run Debian testing on my desktop back in 2015) |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
(a bit after Jessie's release) |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
it was stable, nothing really broke |
| 13:28 |
Calinou |
but god, the issues that were never fixed... |
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Calinou |
(it was on Xfce) |
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JordachL |
tenplus1, Calinou http://i.imgur.com/PFO01d6.jpg |
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Atorian37 |
tenplus1, there is no local sound playing from the sounds folder, is it called sounds or sound...the folder? |
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Calinou |
isn't it called testsounds? |
| 13:31 |
Calinou |
or was it renamed |
| 13:32 |
tenplus1 |
sounds |
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Calinou |
JordachL: thanks for using compact taskbar and non-compact icons |
| 13:32 |
Calinou |
that's how you're supposed to use it :D |
| 13:32 |
tenplus1 |
the same folder you keep textures, worlds and game inside, make 'sounds' folder and place them in there |
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Calinou |
heh, I'm using 13.1 GB of RAM out of 32 GB right now |
| 13:32 |
nerzhul |
it is not recommended to do full upgrade on apt. apt-get upgrade + dist-upgrade |
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Calinou |
with three VMs open |
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nerzhul |
Calinou, bad |
| 13:33 |
Calinou |
nerzhul: "apt full-upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade") is an alias for "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 13:33 |
nerzhul |
with KSM on KVM i can run 10 debian with 256Mo ram :D |
| 13:33 |
Calinou |
get your facts straight |
| 13:33 |
Calinou |
it works exactly the same |
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JordachL |
Calinou, Intel i5 3317U, 4GB DDR3 :D |
| 13:33 |
nerzhul |
full-upgrade = dist-upgrade then you don't skip upgrade |
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Atorian37 |
in textures setting i see sounds and in the sounds folder, there are some ogg sound files, but i don't hear any sound while gaming... |
| 13:33 |
nerzhul |
you skip* |
| 13:33 |
Calinou |
also, my VMs have 2 GB of RAM allocated (if not 4, I don't remember) |
| 13:33 |
Calinou |
and two of them have GUIs |
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JordachL |
(Not using the battery optimised iGPU drivers, gib frame rate above a slideshow) |
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tenplus1 |
Jordach https://imgur.com/a/mnUg1 |
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Calinou |
so far my upgrade is doing fine... |
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JordachL |
tenplus1, i can actually make the taskbar even more transparent |
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Calinou |
also, Fedora makes the guest additions installation very easy, which is nice |
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Calinou |
(with GNOME) |
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JordachL |
(thanks, classic shell) |
| 13:34 |
Calinou |
Debian Xfce is "go figure lol" |
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JordachL |
tenplus1, 17 years ago a 2 second boot time would be literal witchcraft to all IT departments |
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Atorian37 |
for local sound files, is it ok to place the ogg files in the folder /mt dir/textures/sounds/? |
| 13:36 |
tenplus1 |
you gotta rename them remember... e.g. "ambience_music.1.ogg" "ambience_music.2.ogg" etc |
| 13:36 |
tenplus1 |
those are waht mod looks for |
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tenplus1 |
if it cannot find it on server then it'll look client-side |
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Atorian37 |
ahhh ok |
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tenplus1 |
hi DS |
| 13:37 |
DS-minetest |
hi tenplus1 and all others |
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tenplus1 |
o/ |
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Fixer |
JordachL: lies... 17 years ago DOS booted pretty much within seconds |
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JordachL |
Fixer, but a full windows system? |
| 13:47 |
Fixer |
win 3.11 was loading quite fast |
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Atorian37 |
77schatz |
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tenplus1 |
windows 10 doesnt really boot that fast though, it uses fast startup which is kinda like hibernation |
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tenplus1 |
https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/ |
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shivajiva |
Hi folks, ten I added your border code to a repo I created, hope that's okay? |
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shivajiva |
tenplus1 ^ |
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JordachL |
*autistic screeching* |
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tenplus1 |
hi shiva :) that's fine |
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JordachL |
goddamn marvell wifi |
| 14:04 |
shivajiva |
https://github.com/shivajiva101/border |
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* benrob0329 |
pops in for a few |
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tenplus1 |
hi benrob |
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benrob0329 |
Hi tenplus1 |
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shivajiva |
thanks, I added mod storage for persistence of state across server restarts in case it's desired to have it open at times |
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tenplus1 |
good idea... xanadu defaults to closed incase of attack :P |
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shivajiva |
yea, I like it installed but don't always need it refusing new players, just nice to have the option ;) |
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benrob0329 |
Calinou: upgrades are easy with a rolling release distro :PP |
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shivajiva |
if your looking in my repos check player_clean |
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tenplus1 |
Ambience Redo 0.9 was released, can play music from server or locally to save connection time :D |
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JordachL |
https://open.spotify.com/track/1TOLkkkpfEBojytMPAE9Pp |
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JordachL |
LMAO |
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shivajiva |
:D |
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JordachL |
Pistorius Rhapsody |
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JordachL |
i'm dying with laughter |
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tenplus1 |
hi cx384 |
| 14:11 |
cx384 |
o/ tenplus1 |
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benrob0329 |
I think both of my bash.org quotes were rejected :-/ |
| 14:20 |
JordachL |
rekt |
| 14:21 |
benrob0329 |
#rejected |
| 14:22 |
tenplus1 |
run minetest on 8k screen, found a nice snowy biome: http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/2183782/84932194.jpg |
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JordachL |
>EBAUMS |
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JordachL |
WHAT YEAR IS IT |
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tenplus1 |
wb twoelk |
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twoelk |
hi |
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* twoelk |
needs a coffee after 2 hours in a traffic jam |
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tenplus1 |
(_)P |
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tenplus1 |
back laters o/ |
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Fixer |
THE FINEST |
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JordachL |
i turned off wifi power saving |
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JordachL |
meow |
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Calinou |
benrob0329: yes... I think rolling release makes more sense on the desktop overall |
| 14:51 |
Calinou |
but unfortunately, neither Ubuntu nor Fedora are fully rolling right now |
| 14:51 |
Calinou |
Fedora is somehow half-rolling, many packages aren't frozen in their versions |
| 14:51 |
Calinou |
(but not all) |
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Calinou |
Ubuntu only really unfreezes the web browsers and nothing else |
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JordachL |
i think thats fixed the wifi issue plaging the Marvell wifi chipset |
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JordachL_ |
nope# |
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JordachL_ |
reeeeee |
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JordachL |
changed the registry settings o 5ghz |
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JordachL |
(the asus router provides both) |
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Calinou |
just went to see the Tour de France in my street, you can see the Maillot Jaune on the picture (he has a LCL shirt): https://lut.im/uvV2Oj9Biv/YOgSZ74EdX0Y18qA.jpg |
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JordachL_ |
REEEEEEE |
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JordachL_ |
Calinou, is that sponsored sperm shooting past> |
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Calinou |
JordachL_: ? |
| 15:53 |
JordachL_ |
think about itr |
| 15:57 |
Calinou |
https://letsencrypt.org//2017/07/06/wildcard-certificates-coming-jan-2018.html |
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Calinou |
KaadmY: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/911/037/e65.jpg |
| 16:23 |
Calinou |
1v1 me in quack |
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KaadmY |
Noplz |
| 16:23 |
KaadmY |
Seen that like years ago too :P |
| 16:24 |
Calinou |
one day we'll have Quack 3 Arena, with The Longest Duck |
| 16:24 |
Calinou |
and Quack Champions |
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KaadmY |
Quick suggestion: make wieldhand change FOV while zooming |
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DS-minetest |
change fov on zooming is very good idea but what has the wieldhand to do with it? |
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KaadmY |
DS-minetest: It just looks really wrong |
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DS-minetest |
hm, true, it should be made bigger and positioned more to the right and down |
| 17:16 |
KaadmY |
Yeah |
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KaadmY |
That's called a lower FOV.. |
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DS-minetest |
oh |
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DS-minetest |
ah, oops, i confused fov and viewing range |
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KaadmY |
Ah :P |
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DS-minetest |
=> viewing range should also be increased on zoom |
| 17:19 |
KaadmY |
Maybe |
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Calinou |
<KaadmY> Quick suggestion: make wieldhand change FOV while zooming |
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Calinou |
haha, yeah |
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Calinou |
some games don't do that (or didn't) and it looks silly |
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KaadmY |
Calinou: like Minetest >.> |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
reminds me... Quake Live sets the FOV of the player when you spectate a player |
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Calinou |
it looks terrible sometimes :( |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
many people play with fov 90 or 100 |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
some with 130 |
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KaadmY |
TF2 does something similar |
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Calinou |
and it looks like you can't change t hat |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
yeah, 99% of people play with low FOV in TF2, lol |
| 17:22 |
KaadmY |
Spectating people has horribly low FOV |
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Calinou |
mine is on the max setting (in the GUI) |
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KaadmY |
Like 60 or something |
| 17:22 |
KaadmY |
Yep, 90 |
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KaadmY |
It's a hard max now |
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Calinou |
the default FOV setting is probably for 4:3 |
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KaadmY |
Can't go above 90 |
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Calinou |
that sucks for 21:9 |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
playing some Warsow CA |
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Calinou |
does it run for you? |
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KaadmY |
Yep |
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KaadmY |
Might not have it installed RN, lemme check |
| 17:24 |
KaadmY |
Also offtopic; Quakenet #warsow plz |
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Calinou |
heh |
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Raven262 |
You guys play warsow too? |
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KaadmY |
Yap |
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Raven262 |
Nice |
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Raven262 |
I'm only on instagib servers though |
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KaadmY |
Not much, the pickup community's a bit toxic in my experience |
| 17:27 |
Raven262 |
Yea there are some rather toxic players there |
| 17:27 |
Raven262 |
The game is missing an ignore player function |
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Calinou |
read: Puffdar and his alts |
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Calinou |
that guy is French... too bad |
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Fixer |
JUST ONE MORE YEAR AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY |
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red-001 |
Is this déjà vu? |
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red-001 |
or does Fixer just say that every so often |
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Fixer |
red-001: singing MTG motto |
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red-001 |
{off}https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScRsfRHXPTuEXdNvUcI8DzJIU5iazqlpksWucPF0d8l2ztkkA/viewform?fbzx=4233219096757318294 |
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Jordach |
red-001, it fucking cheats |
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Jordach |
using the japanese names instead of the english / US release names |
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Dumbeldor |
red-001: i know only french name xD |
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RobbieF |
Anybody seen this before and know how to quickfix? Runtime error from mod 'technic' in callback LuaABM::trigger(): ...ds/technic/technic/machines/register/battery_box.lua:137: attempt to index upvalue 'fs_helpers' (a nil value) |
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RobbieF |
might be pipeworks.... |
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RobbieF |
yup; was pipeworks. Always misleading when the error says it's technic :D |
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Fixer |
cel was clearly trying to rip off mc beta 1.7.3, so lets make it beta 1.7.3-like :trollface: |
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Fixer |
not exactly 1.7.3 but close enough |
