| Time |
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| 00:42 |
Megaf |
Hey ThomasMonroe |
| 00:42 |
ThomasMonroe |
hey Megaf!! |
| 00:42 |
ThomasMonroe |
we closed on our home yesterday :) |
| 00:43 |
Megaf |
I don't really understand what that means, but if you are happy I'm happy for you |
| 00:43 |
Megaf |
:) |
| 00:47 |
ThomasMonroe |
we bought the house yesterday |
| 00:47 |
ThomasMonroe |
:P |
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benrob0329 |
ThomasMonroe: Congrats! |
| 00:58 |
ThomasMonroe |
thanks ben |
| 01:05 |
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| 01:13 |
Megaf |
ThomasMonroe: that's good news indeed! |
| 01:14 |
Megaf |
new city? |
| 01:22 |
ThomasMonroe |
yes, and new church :/ |
| 01:23 |
Calinou |
that's a building project, build it in Minetest |
| 01:23 |
* Calinou |
hides |
| 01:27 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
| 01:27 |
ThomasMonroe |
hey Calinou could you re-invite me to the lichess team? |
| 01:28 |
ThomasMonroe |
and thanks for introducing me to that awesome community :) I already know the head dev :P |
| 01:28 |
Calinou |
yeah, I know him too |
| 01:28 |
Calinou |
he's French, yet he doesn't sound French :D |
| 01:30 |
Calinou |
ThomasMonroe: request an invite here: https://lichess.org/team/minetest |
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| 01:45 |
ThomasMonroe |
Calinou, done thanks |
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| 01:46 |
Grandolf |
what is that? |
| 01:46 |
ThomasMonroe |
what's what Grandolf? |
| 01:47 |
Grandolf |
https://lichess.org/team/minetest |
| 01:47 |
ThomasMonroe |
its a team for playing chess on lichess.org |
| 01:48 |
ThomasMonroe |
I play there often |
| 01:48 |
Grandolf |
hows joining work? |
| 01:48 |
ThomasMonroe |
same as anything I would imagine |
| 01:49 |
Megaf |
lichess? |
| 01:49 |
ThomasMonroe |
yep |
| 01:49 |
Megaf |
Ah |
| 01:49 |
Megaf |
I don't play chess |
| 01:52 |
Calinou |
ThomasMonroe: accepted :) |
| 01:53 |
Grandolf |
plz accept me 2 :D |
| 01:53 |
Calinou |
I accepted Grandolf actually, didn't see the request from ThomasMonroe |
| 01:53 |
Calinou |
I confused you two :P |
| 01:53 |
Grandolf |
im an ok player, ik how chess works |
| 01:53 |
Grandolf |
ty :D |
| 01:53 |
sofar |
1. e4 |
| 01:55 |
Grandolf |
minetest forum gven on lichess page is not readable by normal members it seems (i am getting a not authorized message) |
| 02:00 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol sofar |
| 02:02 |
ThomasMonroe |
1. c5 |
| 02:04 |
sofar |
black can't move first |
| 02:05 |
sofar |
you don't write the move count again for black's moves |
| 02:05 |
sofar |
you'd simply write: |
| 02:05 |
sofar |
.. c5 |
| 02:10 |
ThomasMonroe |
ok 2. c5 then |
| 02:10 |
ThomasMonroe |
:P |
| 02:14 |
sofar |
white can't move black's pieces |
| 02:15 |
sofar |
I've seen "1. .. c5" |
| 02:15 |
sofar |
lol |
| 02:15 |
sofar |
afk |
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| 03:05 |
benrob0329 |
This message is posted from curl, because matrix is that cool :P |
| 03:16 |
rubenwardy |
Grandolf, the topic was deleted. I've restored it |
| 03:16 |
rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12783 |
| 03:17 |
Grandolf |
kk |
| 04:02 |
benrob0329 |
I feel like Minetest could be marketed as a Lua game engine |
| 04:04 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
| 04:04 |
ThomasMonroe |
C++ head and Lua body |
| 04:04 |
ThomasMonroe |
er head and torso |
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| 08:16 |
sofar |
so here's a concept I'm thinking of working on: |
| 08:17 |
sofar |
2fa authentication in minetest |
| 08:17 |
sofar |
require a valid email |
| 08:17 |
sofar |
question for server operators: would you object to also requiring server owners to verify *their* server ownership with the server? |
| 08:18 |
sofar |
(it seems self evident to me that trust should go both ways) |
| 08:26 |
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| 08:30 |
sofar |
I guess I'll wait for comments |
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| 09:45 |
sfan5 |
what would that achieve? |
| 09:49 |
Krock |
git log |
| 09:49 |
Krock |
err.. wrong window :) |
| 09:54 |
Krock |
I guess that would make it harder for players to register an account and thus, less short-time visitors |
| 09:55 |
Krock |
or less visitors in general as they're not happy about having to provide an email unless there are guest logins |
| 11:44 |
Roger9 |
err... yay |
| 11:49 |
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| 13:04 |
FourFire |
So I'm running a server now |
| 13:04 |
FourFire |
and installing "standard" mods for a PvP, survival server. |
| 13:05 |
FourFire |
I'm wondering how I can best contact maikerune, who is among other things the author of mc_mobs |
| 13:05 |
FourFire |
I'm going to try to hack the wolf code so that it respawns owned wolves when you log in after they have despawned |
| 13:15 |
Krock |
he's quite active on youtube |
| 13:25 |
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| 13:27 |
Megaf |
Greetings |
| 13:35 |
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| 13:36 |
IhrFussel |
I wanted to see how many IPs try to hack my machine when I disable fail2ban for a bit...it's crazy o.o |
| 13:37 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: how are you checking that? |
| 13:37 |
IhrFussel |
Megaf, sudo grep *Failed /var/log/auth.log |
| 13:38 |
Megaf |
I dont have auth here |
| 13:39 |
IhrFussel |
They mostly try to access it as "root" or "admin" so likely automatic scripts, connecting to random ssh servers |
| 13:39 |
IhrFussel |
Do you have fail2ban ? |
| 13:39 |
Megaf |
nope |
| 13:40 |
IhrFussel |
You should probably install it, it automatically bans every IP that entered a wrong password for ssh X times (configurable) for X secs |
| 13:41 |
Megaf |
ssh does that |
| 13:41 |
Megaf |
my sshd wil ignore after 3 attempts |
| 13:41 |
sfan5 |
you shouldn't be using password authentication anyway |
| 13:41 |
Megaf |
and its also set to allow x attempts every x time |
| 13:41 |
Megaf |
sfan5: certificate auth is overated |
| 13:42 |
Megaf |
I have a long and random password. |
| 13:42 |
sfan5 |
did i say you should be using cert auth? |
| 13:42 |
IhrFussel |
Well fail2ban is still better I think...it bans (in my case) every IP that entered 5 times a wrong password within 10 minutes ... the ban lasts for 1 hour |
| 13:42 |
Megaf |
aha |
| 13:42 |
Megaf |
sfan5: What I'm going to do in the near future is use two factor auth |
| 13:42 |
Megaf |
using Google Authenticator |
| 13:43 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: so, sshd here waits 30 seconds max for the password to be entered, and it will allow only 4 failed attempts. Also, it allows only a single connection per IP |
| 13:44 |
Megaf |
And I don't use defualt ssh port |
| 13:44 |
Megaf |
other thing that helps is forcing it to only accept ssh 2 clients, nto ssh 1 |
| 13:45 |
Fixer |
teleporting to 2011 in 3...2...1 |
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| 13:48 |
Megaf |
Fixer: I'm always open for sugestions on how to improve things. But I will not accept a (you are wrong, the way you are doing its outdated, the way you are doing is not secure.) |
| 13:48 |
Megaf |
Fixer: so if you have a solution you think is best, just saying. Otherwise, please stay quiet. |
| 13:49 |
Fixer |
Megaf: was not reply to you in any way, just started mc beta 1.7.3 multiplayer session ._. |
| 13:49 |
Megaf |
Fixer: In that case, lol |
| 13:49 |
IhrFussel |
fail2ban + disallow root login should be enough for most cases |
| 13:50 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: it depends to whom you ask and how much a person wants to get into your server |
| 13:50 |
Megaf |
IMHO |
| 13:55 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: I'm reading my ssh log here. Basically no failed attempts, couldnt find a single one so far |
| 13:56 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: I have some incorrect protocol login attempts |
| 13:56 |
IhrFussel |
Megaf, that seems impossible...is it your MT server? I'm guessing your log doesn't report correctly, there should be at least a few access attempts per day |
| 13:56 |
Megaf |
that sshd blocked because I made protocol 2 strict |
| 13:56 |
Megaf |
again, I dont use standard ssh port |
| 13:57 |
Megaf |
these scripts will just try port 22 or other well used ports |
| 13:57 |
IhrFussel |
Okay well that reduces the attempts of course... |
| 14:02 |
* Megaf |
listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOSJUHOnRWc ( Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb [Extended Studio Version] ) |
| 14:05 |
* Jordach |
turns up the gopnik hardbass |
| 14:06 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
Megaf: you can change the SSH port to fend off most bot attacks |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
(like, 80% of them) |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
but yes, consider disabling password authentication |
| 14:07 |
Megaf |
Hey Calinou |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
generate a public/private key pair, and keep the private key safe |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
(on your PC + external storage or something) |
| 14:07 |
Megaf |
that doesnt work for me |
| 14:07 |
Jordach |
i kept my server on port 22 to endlessly frustrate bots |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
hmm, why not? |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
I reinstall the OS and change devices all the time |
| 14:08 |
Calinou |
that's why I said you can put it on an USB drive |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
and change the OS often too |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
Jordach: the bass is so boosted in that video even my bassless earphone is pumping some bass to my ears |
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| 14:11 |
Shara |
sofar: verify in what way? |
| 14:12 |
Shara |
Also would lose a whole bunch of players if you demand an email address. |
| 14:13 |
Megaf |
I have no idea how but I just entered "∫" in a terminal |
| 14:14 |
Shara |
To be honest, requiring an email address to join a server has always felt like a broken idea to me, because those who are going to be abusive of the server can easily create a throw away email address, and it's only genuine players who, for whatever reason can't or don't want to give an email, get caught out |
| 14:17 |
Calinou |
yeah |
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| 14:25 |
IhrFussel |
Does anyone in here use "books" on their server? And if so are already written default books compatible with them? |
| 14:25 |
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| 14:34 |
Megaf |
Well, I had root login enabled here. Just created a non admin user and disabled root login |
| 14:34 |
Megaf |
still using password though |
| 15:06 |
Megaf |
!ping |
| 15:07 |
Megaf |
MinetestBot: you really should have a !ping |
| 15:08 |
CWz |
pong |
| 15:08 |
Megaf |
Thanks CWz |
| 15:08 |
Megaf |
How are you? |
| 15:09 |
Krock |
Megaf, there is.. kinda. |
| 15:09 |
Krock |
<3 MinetestBot |
| 15:09 |
MinetestBot |
<3 Krock |
| 15:09 |
sfan5 |
also |
| 15:09 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
| 15:09 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
| 15:09 |
Megaf |
That one will do |
| 15:09 |
Megaf |
MinetestBot! |
| 15:09 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf! |
| 15:09 |
Megaf |
I like that |
| 15:09 |
Megaf |
Thanks Krock sfan5 |
| 15:10 |
* Jordach |
pets MinetestBot |
| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
uh |
| 15:11 |
* MinetestBot |
purrs |
| 15:15 |
* Jordach |
turns up the eurobeat |
| 15:19 |
* Megaf |
searching for free Raspberry Pi colocation |
| 15:28 |
* Shara |
approves of purring bots. |
| 15:31 |
Megaf |
Thankfully I'm still the only roaring one |
| 15:40 |
* Shara |
takes note that Megaf is a bot |
| 15:40 |
Megaf |
Oh no |
| 15:41 |
Megaf |
There's enough people thinking I 'm a bot already |
| 15:41 |
Megaf |
no need for more people to think the same |
| 15:41 |
Krock |
can someone please turn off CleverBot for Megaf? That bot talks too much IMO |
| 15:42 |
Megaf |
lol |
| 15:45 |
Megaf |
This would run minetestserver quite nicely https://order.servermania.com/products/b1ffbebb-69aa-486b-46b4-2aea4bd497be |
| 15:47 |
Krock |
A decimal place less in the price would be more attractive |
| 15:49 |
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| 15:51 |
Krock |
can't get it over $14k monthly using the most expensive "Dual Intel Xeon E5-2650v4, 24x2.2 Ghz" |
| 15:53 |
Krock |
found some more expensive extensions. $15k/month now |
| 15:53 |
Krock |
^ Megaf interested? 32 TB SSD and 1 TiB RAM |
| 15:54 |
* Jordach |
has a server running on x64 Intel Atom |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
8 cores, 2.4Ghz, 32GB RAM |
| 15:55 |
Shara |
Something tells me the cost per month of all currently running public MT servers won't come to that :) |
| 15:55 |
Krock |
Shara, definitely not :) |
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| 15:57 |
Jordach |
i don't even pay for the server at jordach.net anymore |
| 15:57 |
Jordach |
my friend pays for the server, and i just maintain it |
| 15:57 |
Jordach |
(ensuring it works just fine) |
| 15:58 |
Shara |
I pay for hosting RC, but not for DL. |
| 16:04 |
Jordach |
Shara, the previous server install was debian |
| 16:04 |
Jordach |
got literally broken by installing nginx with node over a LAMP stack that operated fine |
| 16:04 |
rubenwardy |
anyone finding that Minetest no longer has usernames as case insensitive? |
| 16:04 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm |
| 16:04 |
rubenwardy |
maybe that's a sauth issue |
| 16:04 |
Krock |
update squth |
| 16:04 |
Shara |
I recall shivajiva mentioning doing something to account for it a while back |
| 16:05 |
rubenwardy |
ah ok |
| 16:05 |
rubenwardy |
I just did |
| 16:05 |
rubenwardy |
so hopefully will be fixed now |
| 16:06 |
Shara |
Jordach: how did that break it? |
| 16:06 |
Krock |
duplicate names are something that the auth handler has to care bout |
| 16:06 |
Jordach |
Shara, LAMP has active sites running, and nginx borked it all |
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| 16:06 |
Jordach |
any attempt at installing nginx results in cron uninstalling it |
| 16:06 |
Megaf |
lol |
| 16:06 |
Shara |
Hmmm... used nginx before, without problem... but that was long long ago. |
| 16:06 |
Megaf |
apache/lighttpd for the win |
| 16:06 |
Jordach |
nginx doesn't do virtual sites properly |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
it does |
| 16:07 |
sfan5 |
debian just fucked up probably |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
I think you tried to get Apache and Nginx both listening on 80 |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
| 16:07 |
Shara |
:D |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
<3 Nginx |
| 16:07 |
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| 16:07 |
Jordach |
i try and do the following: automation > uptime > speed |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
I have about 20 virtual sites on my nginx server |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
no idea how |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
(not including http->https redirects) |
| 16:10 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, i made a super simple auto restart script for my server, and tries for server uptime over constant restarts |
| 16:10 |
rubenwardy |
huh |
| 16:10 |
rubenwardy |
I use systemd for that |
| 16:10 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, mine makes use of request_shutdown |
| 16:10 |
rubenwardy |
wait, do you mean Minetest server? |
| 16:10 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 16:10 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
| 16:10 |
Jordach |
https://github.com/Jordach/Solar_Plains/blob/master/mods/auto_maintainence/init.lua |
| 16:10 |
rubenwardy |
why is that a part of your subgame? :D |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
because it's one of those extras that might be useful |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
considering my dev server runs 24/77 |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
-7 |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
i never have to ssh into it and update ever again |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
"This incident WILL be reported." --> nothing to report the incident in code |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
it's the classic sudo reference |
| 16:12 |
Jordach |
https://xkcd.com/838/ |
| 16:21 |
Jordach |
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/online_communities.png holy shit it's like four continents now |
| 16:23 |
rubenwardy |
there's a follow up to that, iirc |
| 16:25 |
Krock |
next to the sea of memes |
| 16:27 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: Pretty sure its an ocean now |
| 16:27 |
Krock |
and on its deep, deep ground there are the dank cliffs |
| 16:28 |
benrob0329 |
Vast and expansive, nobody knows whats in the deep depths of it. |
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| 16:59 |
Jordach |
:thinking: |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
Krock: not sure if it's a good idea getting users here |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
because they can't talk... |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
Krock: unless you can do /msg chanserv voice #Minetest-Hub username |
| 17:16 |
Megaf |
or #channel voice, not sure about the order |
| 17:16 |
Megaf |
That would be the correct command. /msg chanserv voice #Minetest-Hub UserNick |
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| 17:19 |
IhrFussel |
If I DC again today I'll call my ISP and tell them to fix it |
| 17:19 |
Megaf |
define DC |
| 17:20 |
IhrFussel |
WAN disconnected |
| 17:21 |
benrob0329 |
IhrFussel: did you reset your modem? |
| 17:22 |
IhrFussel |
Nah it's pretty new, I could try a cold boot though before I call them |
| 17:24 |
* Jordach |
un-hardcoded mover's logic and into user definable tables as part of the global |
| 17:24 |
Jordach |
no overrides required |
| 17:24 |
Jordach |
https://gist.github.com/Jordach/7d38cc43d28e2511de7f615a9ac7f737 |
| 17:29 |
Fixer |
JUST ONE MORE YEAR AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY |
| 17:45 |
Fixer |
"The only thing I think is good in Bedrock is insanely quick performance. I like playing it just to experience the 64 chunk render distance and seeing solid 60 FPS" |
| 17:45 |
Fixer |
thats vrange 1024 |
| 17:50 |
Megaf |
I think Im in love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXzcIoq2ing |
| 17:50 |
Megaf |
shes amazing |
| 17:51 |
Fixer |
hmm, minetest mentioned in https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/7g484o/java_edition_wont_be_part_of_better_together/dqhmeqj/ |
| 17:53 |
Fixer |
dwarf fortress new update ;) |
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| 18:18 |
Krock |
Megaf, in love with her or the piece of cheese? |
| 18:19 |
Megaf |
Her |
| 18:19 |
Megaf |
The cheese is nice too |
| 18:19 |
rubenwardy |
<Krock> Megaf, in love with her or the piece of cheese? |
| 18:19 |
rubenwardy |
what |
| 18:19 |
rubenwardy |
r/nocontext |
| 18:19 |
Megaf |
ruben, actually it is |
| 18:19 |
Megaf |
if you watch the video |
| 18:19 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, post it there if you want |
| 18:19 |
rubenwardy |
ah, just read the logs |
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| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
I lost my will to make a reddit account when they stopped being Open Source |
| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
They're no longer the little guys at this point, yet they try to play things off as if they are. |
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| 19:01 |
benrob0329 |
(Offtopic) https://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/winstupid/1 |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
amazing website |
| 19:09 |
Fixer |
WHAT IS CHEEEEEEESE |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
Fixer: a car |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
cheese lousie the first name |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
s/first/full |
| 19:09 |
Fixer |
tea time |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: is his content open source? |
| 19:09 |
Fixer |
Megaf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbUMVq4pY94 |
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Megaf |
I mean, can I public it on my block? |
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benrob0329 |
Megaf: ask him |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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ThomasMonroe |
hi tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
hi thomas :P |
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Megaf |
Hi tenplus1 ThomasMonroe |
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ThomasMonroe |
hey Megaf |
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tenplus1 |
hi Mega |
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tenplus1 |
fffff :P |
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tenplus1 |
hi nerzhul |
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nerzhul |
hi tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
hi compunerd |
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compunerd |
Hi tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
:P |
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tenplus1 |
ooh, laters folks :))) |
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Megaf |
Calinou: Quassel dev seems to be quite slow now a days |
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Fixer |
eh, rip eyes after setting up DF |
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Fixer |
Megaf: now DDC support in 2017, ofc it is slow |
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benrob0329 |
\>DCC |
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benrob0329 |
We have HTTP uploads ;-) |
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Calinou |
Megaf: it is :( |
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Calinou |
to be fair, it's quite mature now, but lacks many things in its latest stable release |
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Calinou |
(support for touch events, better hiDPI) |
| 21:55 |
Calinou |
<benrob0329> They're no longer the little guys at this point, yet they try to play things off as if they are. |
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Calinou |
Reddit devs are a funny crowd indeed… |
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Calinou |
so much for being "4chan's smarter brother" :^) |
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rubenwardy |
fuck u/spez |
| 21:56 |
Calinou |
what did they do? |
| 21:56 |
Fixer |
what is " u/spez"? |
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Megaf |
Calinou: no SASL either |
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rubenwardy |
https://i.imgur.com/yZprES0.jpg |
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rubenwardy |
Fixer ^ |
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rubenwardy |
TL;DR: spez is the CEO of reddit, and everyone hates him |
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Calinou |
Megaf: it does have SASL, I'm logged in via SASL right now :) |
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Fixer |
rubenwardy: oh |
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Megaf |
Calinou: hm, let me see |
| 22:04 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: reddit is no more open source too |
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benrob0329 |
I just have no reason to make an account anymore |
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benrob0329 |
Between Matrix and Mastodon there is plenty of discussion |
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Megaf |
Calinou: Im using SASL now too :P |
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Calinou |
one of us! one of us! |
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Calinou |
Fixer: yeah, same for the mobile apps. I use RedReader, which is on F-Droid, for mobile |
| 22:08 |
Fixer |
"now DDC support in 2017", correction: "no DDC support in 2017", even chatzilla has DDC |
| 22:08 |
Calinou |
pretty decent client |
| 22:08 |
Fixer |
Calinou: btw new f-droid client interface, horrible |
| 22:09 |
Calinou |
yeah, it's weird |
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Calinou |
their attempt at making it app store-like was poor |
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Fixer |
i've shitted my pants when I seen that, had to furiously revert it back |
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Fixer |
it was unusable |
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* rubenwardy |
uses Sync |
| 22:19 |
benrob0329 |
What..making Fdroid more like an actual app store is worse? Just..what? |
| 22:19 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: UI was crippled as ----, and also confusing |
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benrob0329 |
I mean, syncing repos doesnt take a year now |
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sofar |
shivajiva: would you mind taking patches or working with me on an external api to sban? I really would like to have some sort of in-game gui for it that could directly use some of the internal methods |
| 22:20 |
benrob0329 |
I see nothing confusing about it |
| 22:21 |
Calinou |
some new parts of the app are pretty decent, but the discoverability isn't quite good IMO |
| 22:21 |
Calinou |
not that a lot of new FOSS apps are released nowadays anyway :( |
| 22:21 |
Fixer |
also, i can't find categories on their website anymore, which is a bu(a)mmer |
| 22:22 |
rubenwardy |
ha! |
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rubenwardy |
https://f-droid.org/packages/net.minetest.minetest/ |
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rubenwardy |
it says Minetest is CC-BY-SA 3.0 |
| 22:22 |
rubenwardy |
nope |
| 22:23 |
benrob0329 |
Who manages the Fdroid app? |
| 22:23 |
rubenwardy |
it's automatic |
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rubenwardy |
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/merge_requests/2705 |
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nerzhul |
https://www.geeksaresexy.net/2017/12/03/unico-smartbrush-brush-teeth-just-3-seconds/ |
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nerzhul |
this is a revolution |
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Jordach |
nerzhul, you mean someone made a jaw protector that actually cleans teeth> |
| 22:38 |
Jordach |
we've had the tech to do this very thing for years and until now someone thinks of it |
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Fixer |
look at this rendering distance, just holy ---- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ZBgDg9rmE |
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Fixer |
seems like vrange 960 |
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Fixer |
on their new engine |
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IhrFussel |
Wait item wear is ASC not DESC? That sounds stupid... a wear of 0 should indicate no wear left and not full wear |
| 22:51 |
IhrFussel |
Or wait...wear makes sense there I guess...I was looking for a duration parameter |
| 22:51 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: I no longer trust product kickstarters |
| 22:52 |
IhrFussel |
So does wear 65536 always mean item is gone? |
| 22:52 |
benrob0329 |
Too many good videos made millions of dollars, while actual inventions died |
| 22:55 |
shivajiva |
sofar: what do you think needs exposing? I omitted the formspec for perceived security reasons, partly driven by your comments on how loose it was. |
| 22:57 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: what do you mean? |
| 22:57 |
Jordach |
IhrFussel, think of it as item exp rather than say item wear |
| 22:57 |
Jordach |
i actually use the wear system to level up mese picks |
| 22:58 |
Jordach |
s/picks/toolsg |
| 22:58 |
IhrFussel |
Jordach, I want to inform the player in the chat about armor that's about to break... is 65000 a reasonable amount for it? |
| 22:58 |
Jordach |
IhrFussel, 65535/uses |
| 22:59 |
Jordach |
then you can calculate the remaining uses from that |
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Jordach |
eg, get_wear() / uses |
| 22:59 |
Jordach |
get_wear() / (65535 / uses) |
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benrob0329 |
Fixer: solar roads :^) |
| 22:59 |
Jordach |
^^^ |
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Jordach |
*inserts Dave Jones EEVblog screeching* |
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Jordach |
fun fact |
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Jordach |
i might be half aussie |
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sofar |
shivajiva: formspec handling can be secured, and yes, it'll have to be |
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sofar |
shivajiva: mainly querying and adding new bans, essentially |
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sofar |
although I want to do something more intelligent than xban_gui, I found it useless most of the time |
| 23:01 |
Jordach |
or just let me write it and it'll be reasonably good half the time |
| 23:02 |
Jordach |
i've found most MTG related standards lacking |
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shivajiva |
it wasn't a nice implementation, preferred the commands myself |
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Fixer |
benrob0329: what solar roads? |
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benrob0329 |
Fixer: check PM |
| 23:19 |
benrob0329 |
I dont want to do too much offtopic |
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shivajiva |
sofar: hope you are tracking the changes to sban |
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sofar |
*cough* sure |
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Shara |
I'm curious why a gui is needed. |
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sofar |
mostly because I'm incapable of remembering every damn command |
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rubenwardy |
I'd rather have features like being able to list all names a user has signed in |
| 23:25 |
rubenwardy |
there's literally 3 though |
| 23:25 |
rubenwardy |
ban, tempban and ban_record |
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sofar |
but also because I want simple things like being able of seeing the last actions of users and stuff liek that |
| 23:26 |
rubenwardy |
it's good for when you're in game, not so helpful for over IRC |
| 23:26 |
sofar |
yes but is it tempban <user> <time> <reason> or <time> <user> <reason> ? |
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sofar |
I don't do the irc thing |
| 23:26 |
rubenwardy |
I've never had an issue remembering that \o/ |
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benrob0329 |
sofar: /help tempban |
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sofar |
also, commands are ok, but if you want to ban someone for e.g. swearing, do you first go and check they have been tempbanned before? |
| 23:27 |
benrob0329 |
:-) |
| 23:27 |
Shara |
It's extremely easy to remember |
| 23:27 |
sofar |
guys, relax |
| 23:27 |
sofar |
I have a day job |
| 23:27 |
sofar |
I know what manual pages are |
| 23:27 |
Shara |
And if you have issues recalling the arguments, it would be easy to just have the rror message list the order (if it doesn't yet) |
| 23:27 |
Shara |
error* |
| 23:27 |
sofar |
more comfortable ways of maintaining bans should be possible |
| 23:28 |
sofar |
it's not just that, as I said |
| 23:28 |
shivajiva |
sban let's you know the player is already banned, you need to unban them to change a temp ban duration |
| 23:28 |
sofar |
not that |
| 23:28 |
Shara |
ban_record gives all the previous ban info |
| 23:28 |
sofar |
I want to be able to see that they were previously tempbanned (and those have expired) |
| 23:28 |
sofar |
... |
| 23:28 |
benrob0329 |
banhistory <usr> ? |
| 23:28 |
Shara |
ban_record tells you |
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sofar |
ffs |
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sofar |
seriously |
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sofar |
I don't want to type 4 commands to get all the data |
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benrob0329 |
*chuckles* |
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sofar |
I'm not shell programming |
| 23:29 |
Shara |
It's one command :D |
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sofar |
I have a day job |
| 23:29 |
sofar |
no, it's /banhistory |
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sofar |
then /tempban |
| 23:29 |
sofar |
then /tempban again cuz I made a typo |
| 23:29 |
Shara |
lol |
| 23:29 |
sofar |
so, 3 commands minimum |
| 23:29 |
sofar |
oh, and then /unban becuase I banned the user '3d' |
| 23:29 |
Shara |
We now need auto correct for Minetest |
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shivajiva |
sofar: rofl |
| 23:30 |
sofar |
1. gui, click user, see previous data, click "tempban 3d" button |
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sofar |
done |
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sofar |
that's what I want |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/5ovnvJg.png |
| 23:31 |
shivajiva |
sofar: tied to what priv? |
| 23:31 |
sofar |
server, obviously |
| 23:32 |
shivajiva |
you don't give ban to moderators? |
| 23:33 |
shivajiva |
seems it would need tiered access as before |
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sofar |
I don't have any on my server, but sure |
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shivajiva |
sofar: pls open an issue, I'd think it should be an internal option so it's still shrink wrapped |
| 23:51 |
Calinou |
https://camo.githubusercontent.com/d486f10bb482de64645cc93df565ba18fe5e848d/68747470733a2f2f6c75742e696d2f685771364d4a524e54682f6f4e4e4d4c5a48767251335430426e562e6a7067 |
| 23:51 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/Calinou/modern |
| 23:51 |
Calinou |
I remember working on this texture pack last year :D |
| 23:51 |
Calinou |
I don't have time to continue it :( |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
Calinou: pixelation |
| 23:55 |
Fixer |
Calinou: seems a bit sharp in some places |
