| Time |
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Fixer |
"video game loot boxes", new lows of the industry |
| 00:02 |
Jordach |
and three years ago that was MC clones |
| 00:03 |
ThomasMonroe |
loot boxes are desparate attempts to fund companies that are losing money to FOSS projects :) |
| 00:03 |
Jordach |
i doubt that |
| 00:04 |
Jordach |
games have a production value that exceeds the new star wars movie |
| 00:08 |
Fixer |
wonder what are their profit margins |
| 00:09 |
Jordach |
shit without MTX |
| 00:09 |
Jordach |
like actual SHIT |
| 00:09 |
Jordach |
EA is likely to lose the Star Wars license if BF2-17 fails |
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Fixer |
BF2-17? |
| 00:21 |
Jordach |
the new battlefront 2 |
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| 00:53 |
JordachNote8 |
DnX RPG in MT |
| 00:53 |
JordachNote8 |
DnD * |
| 00:54 |
Megaf |
Updated Debian Sid on my laptop. WiFi and Nvidia driver stopped working |
| 00:54 |
Megaf |
Thankfully I have macOS for backup |
| 00:54 |
Fixer |
Megaf: typical |
| 00:55 |
Megaf |
Reinstalled Nvidia driver and tried 3 different kernels. No luck |
| 00:55 |
Megaf |
Now I'm updating everything again and let's see if I can get nouveau to work |
| 00:56 |
Fixer |
Megaf: it is called unstable for a reason |
| 00:56 |
Megaf |
I will be traveling overseas in 7 hours... Should be sleeping |
| 00:56 |
Megaf |
I mean, will be leaving to the airport in 7 hours |
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| 00:58 |
Fixer |
Megaf: go to sleep, it is not worth it |
| 00:59 |
Megaf |
Finishing packing |
| 00:59 |
Fixer |
the whole point of OS is to be a invisible middleman, powering up your applications |
| 00:59 |
Megaf |
Agreed |
| 00:59 |
Fixer |
if you tinker with OS, but not with applications - something is really wrong |
| 00:59 |
Megaf |
MS, Apple and other biggies don't get that |
| 01:00 |
Fixer |
ideally you configure it once and use same config for years |
| 01:00 |
Fixer |
as i do with windows |
| 01:00 |
red-001 |
yeah writing an OS is thankless work, if you do everything right, chances are no-one even notices your work |
| 01:00 |
Fixer |
same with linux |
| 01:01 |
Megaf |
Well, my servers last really long |
| 01:01 |
Megaf |
User OS |
| 01:01 |
Megaf |
Not so much |
| 01:01 |
Fixer |
most of the time OS is not visible at all |
| 01:01 |
Fixer |
it provides you contact with hardware |
| 01:02 |
Megaf |
Ok, final attempt getting X to load |
| 01:02 |
Fixer |
user is focused on abbz |
| 01:02 |
Fixer |
also, i've seen "Apps" cancer on some 80s screenshots, so it is much longer naming |
| 01:03 |
Megaf |
Ok. X is totally broken on Sid |
| 01:04 |
Megaf |
Not even nouveau starts |
| 01:04 |
Fixer |
try googling |
| 01:04 |
Megaf |
Not worth it :) |
| 01:04 |
Megaf |
Not now |
| 01:06 |
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| 01:08 |
Megaf |
It turns out X is working |
| 01:09 |
JordachNote8 |
greetings, paramat |
| 01:09 |
rubenwardy |
hey paramat |
| 01:09 |
* Megaf |
typing from Debian Sid now |
| 01:10 |
paramat |
hiii |
| 01:10 |
Megaf |
lets see how long nouveau will hold |
| 01:11 |
JordachNote8 |
is there a better irc client for Android other than quassel |
| 01:11 |
JordachNote8 |
since yaaic is a turd |
| 01:12 |
JordachNote8 |
(i shouldve setup quassel core years ago) |
| 01:13 |
* rubenwardy |
uses HoloIRC |
| 01:13 |
rubenwardy |
it sucks |
| 01:13 |
rubenwardy |
:D |
| 01:13 |
rubenwardy |
IRC Cloud is really nice |
| 01:13 |
rubenwardy |
but proprietary |
| 01:13 |
* Megaf |
on Quassel Client/Core |
| 01:13 |
JordachNote8 |
hold my beer |
| 01:14 |
Megaf |
Core runs on my dedi and clients everywhere |
| 01:14 |
* Megaf |
sips Jordarchs beer |
| 01:14 |
Megaf |
Dont tell him |
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HoloIRCUser |
Doesnt suck |
| 01:17 |
HoloIRCUser |
Hanf |
| 01:17 |
HoloIRCUser |
Wait a second |
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| 01:20 |
JordachNote8 |
Much better |
| 01:21 |
JordachNote8 |
Rubenwardy, doesnt suck as much |
| 01:21 |
JordachNote8 |
Just less than yaaic |
| 01:24 |
Megaf |
JordachNote8: wants your beer back? |
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| 01:29 |
JordachNote8 |
Holy shit this wifi repeater is a turd with dd wrt |
| 01:29 |
JordachNote8 |
Drops Wi-Fi when im not even 3m away |
| 01:32 |
Megaf |
g'night |
| 01:57 |
* benrob0329 |
writes a cron script for his minetest server (private, for a lets play) |
| 01:58 |
* rubenwardy |
has bought a microphone |
| 01:58 |
rubenwardy |
expect more youtube videos |
| 01:59 |
Shara |
:D |
| 02:02 |
benrob0329 |
rubenwardy: what kind? |
| 02:02 |
rubenwardy |
modding tutorials |
| 02:02 |
rubenwardy |
live streams |
| 02:02 |
benrob0329 |
no the mi |
| 02:02 |
rubenwardy |
maybe some engine dev |
| 02:02 |
benrob0329 |
mic |
| 02:02 |
rubenwardy |
oh, I'm not gonna say |
| 02:02 |
rubenwardy |
it's cheap |
| 02:03 |
benrob0329 |
Blue Snowball? |
| 02:03 |
rubenwardy |
£13 = 17$ |
| 02:03 |
* Shara |
should really get a mic... |
| 02:03 |
rubenwardy |
Blue Snowballs ain't cheap |
| 02:03 |
rubenwardy |
if this becomes a real thing, then I'll get a snowball |
| 02:03 |
rubenwardy |
until then I just need a mic where I'm legible |
| 02:04 |
benrob0329 |
you can be legible with a cell phone |
| 02:04 |
rubenwardy |
not very convenient to record |
| 02:04 |
benrob0329 |
the important thing is not having a crappy environment |
| 02:05 |
benrob0329 |
like, put some pillows or blankets up on the wall so that you don't echo |
| 02:06 |
rubenwardy |
good idea |
| 02:06 |
benrob0329 |
also don't have a really loud fan, and don't be super quite |
| 02:07 |
benrob0329 |
don't turn down your mic volume to hide external noise, get rid of the noise |
| 02:07 |
benrob0329 |
talk closer to your mic, and turn it up (not so much that you clip) |
| 02:09 |
rubenwardy |
thanks for the advice :) |
| 02:10 |
benrob0329 |
np, I've been doing this for a few years so I've learned some tricks :-) |
| 02:17 |
JordachNote8 |
Reuben, ive considered doing live streams of solar plains |
| 02:17 |
JordachNote8 |
Also, the microsoft lifecams are fantastic microphones |
| 02:17 |
JordachNote8 |
No, really, theyre fucking awesome |
| 02:18 |
JordachNote8 |
Plus theyre a decent facecam too, if you're into that |
| 02:18 |
rubenwardy |
*ruben |
| 02:18 |
paramat |
language please |
| 02:18 |
JordachNote8 |
I own the 3xxx 720p series |
| 02:18 |
benrob0329 |
suure, because cheap cam mics are amazing |
| 02:18 |
JordachNote8 |
It did cost like £34 |
| 02:18 |
benrob0329 |
hah |
| 02:19 |
JordachNote8 |
It does hear people across the room and the neibouring toilet |
| 02:19 |
benrob0329 |
and that's a good thing? |
| 02:19 |
JordachNote8 |
It hears everything, whole reason for me using push to talk |
| 02:19 |
rubenwardy |
...that's not good |
| 02:20 |
JordachNote8 |
Just use a filter and use a curve for voice activity |
| 02:20 |
benrob0329 |
I use an AT2020, very good mic |
| 02:20 |
JordachNote8 |
(I generally use a -20db muting because its good at hearing things) |
| 02:20 |
benrob0329 |
only $80 (xlr mics are cheaper than USB if youre not going professional) |
| 02:21 |
JordachNote8 |
>USB |
| 02:21 |
JordachNote8 |
Heres a good joke |
| 02:21 |
benrob0329 |
yes, USB mics are only as good as your sound card :-) |
| 02:22 |
JordachNote8 |
Whats the difference between a DAC and an onboard DAC |
| 02:22 |
JordachNote8 |
Nothing, its all schiit all the way down |
| 02:23 |
JordachNote8 |
Electrical noise will always be present and cannot be avoided |
| 02:23 |
benrob0329 |
an external DAC is usually much better than the one on your motherboard |
| 02:23 |
benrob0329 |
yes, because analog noise is soo much better |
| 02:23 |
* JordachNote8 |
looks at SoundBlaster Z |
| 02:24 |
JordachNote8 |
I dont own anything decent |
| 02:24 |
JordachNote8 |
Wired into a high end hifi amp |
| 02:25 |
JordachNote8 |
With some thicc speaker cable so the kittens dont chew it |
| 02:26 |
* benrob0329 |
sets up backup server |
| 02:26 |
JordachNote8 |
OwO *notices your backups* |
| 02:27 |
benrob0329 |
Nextcloud, rsync, and ssh keys |
| 02:27 |
JordachNote8 |
Benrob, most modern motherboards separate noise as well as most external DACs |
| 02:27 |
JordachNote8 |
Espcially some of the nee ASUS mobos |
| 02:27 |
benrob0329 |
but they don't have phantom power :-) |
| 02:28 |
benrob0329 |
I can also plug my speakers directly into my mixer, which simplifies the software setup |
| 02:28 |
JordachNote8 |
That are ryzen based with configurable ohm outputs |
| 02:30 |
* benrob0329 |
wonders why his backup server is soo slow |
| 02:30 |
benrob0329 |
oh yeah, because I can't afford a faster one |
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paramat |
=) |
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| 03:58 |
ThomasMonroe |
night all |
| 04:50 |
rubenwardy |
red-001, now you're around again, are you going to get back into development? ;) |
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| 07:13 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: hah |
| 07:13 |
Megaf |
Define backup server though |
| 07:19 |
Megaf |
Oh, with rsync and stuuf |
| 07:20 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: you have videos on YouTube already or not yet? |
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MinetestBot |
nerzhul: Dec-16 21:51 UTC <rubenwardy> please may you update this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14722 |
| 08:08 |
nerzhul |
rubenwardy, hmmm update with what ? all is merged :p |
| 08:55 |
Megaf |
Morning CWz nerzhul |
| 09:17 |
nerzhul |
hi Megaf |
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| 09:43 |
Megaf |
Morning Krock |
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| 09:44 |
Krock |
morning Megaf |
| 09:45 |
Megaf |
Flying to Frankfurt in a couple of hours |
| 09:45 |
Megaf |
Not sure what do do there... |
| 09:46 |
Megaf |
I will have around 10 hours to kill at the airport |
| 09:46 |
Megaf |
Gonna play lots of minetest I guess |
| 09:48 |
Krock |
what's going on today? https://i.imgur.com/ZoVIrv4.png |
| 09:48 |
Krock |
Megaf, kill hours or kill people? o.O' |
| 09:49 |
Megaf |
Eh, not killing people today |
| 09:53 |
Megaf |
Just hope that my powerbank last for the whole trip |
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| 10:29 |
Megaf |
What's up with these random nicks? |
| 10:29 |
Megaf |
ca307, as840, suz69, che737 and kowe457 |
| 10:43 |
Krock |
spammers |
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Megaf |
hm |
| 11:11 |
Megaf |
https://www.tunnelbear.com/b/privacy-partners/ not opening here |
| 11:11 |
Megaf |
"Peer failed to perform TLS handshake" |
| 11:11 |
Megaf |
Not a good first impression from TunnelBear |
| 11:12 |
Megaf |
Folks, which free dns domain you recommend? |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
meh, boarding will begin in 40 min and there's lots of people in line already |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
comon |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
why don't they just stay in their seats and go to the gate in an orderen fashion? |
| 11:29 |
Megaf |
The plane will not depart so soon |
| 11:29 |
Megaf |
and everybody have to wait anyway |
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JordachNote8 |
Megaf just use PIA |
| 11:54 |
JordachNote8 |
Christ almighty :^) |
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| 11:58 |
IhrFussel |
That's weird...I wanted to make my website officially HTML5 but when I add the doctype tag all browsers seem to ignore my max-height div properties ... anyone here got a clue? |
| 11:59 |
IhrFussel |
It's the server website so not really offtopic |
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| 13:15 |
Jordach |
IhrFussel, dtime is really useless when server lag in dtime goes over 1 sec |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
using seconds when it ticks at 0.09s is fine |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
but when it has to do hundreds of things when dtime gets overloaded |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
it just makes it worse, unfortunatelyu |
| 13:18 |
IhrFussel |
Jordach, minetest.after() uses register_globalstep() just like any other dtime callback |
| 13:18 |
IhrFussel |
There is nothing else...you cannot make it more accurate than "dtime" |
| 13:19 |
Krock |
minetest.get_us_time() |
| 13:20 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, I mean when you want to execute something at a precise time interval there is nothing more accurate than a globalstep because Lua doesn't run in between globalsteps simply |
| 13:20 |
Krock |
while (minetest.get_us_time() < some_high_number) do end :P |
| 13:20 |
Jordach |
IhrFussel, and minetest.after is a cleaner soloution |
| 13:21 |
Krock |
the timing will be accurate but yeah, it can't run in a higher frequency than globalstep |
| 13:21 |
Jordach |
may actually be possible |
| 13:21 |
IhrFussel |
minetest.after() is just a globalstep with added arguments |
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| 13:22 |
Jordach |
do i smell heresy |
| 13:23 |
IhrFussel |
Did you ever look into after.lua? I did last night and I see nothing magic in it that would make it somehow more accurate or more reliable than using register_globalstep() direcrly in a mod |
| 13:23 |
Jordach |
IhrFussel, it feels more reliable |
| 13:23 |
Jordach |
rather, reinvent the whole wheel again |
| 13:24 |
IhrFussel |
minetest.after() globalstep only checks once per second so actually it's LESS accurate than a globalstep |
| 13:25 |
IhrFussel |
Or wait I might've mixed it up..one sec |
| 13:28 |
IhrFussel |
Ok correction: It runs 100% the same as any other globalstep ... doesn't matter if the mod uses either of them... minetest.after() has the advantage of remembering a function for X seconds while inside register_globalstep() you have to compare the times yourself ... but minetest.after() also has at least 1 disadvantage: It only runs once ... you need to trigger it again for it to run again |
| 13:30 |
IhrFussel |
I use minetest.after() for example when I want to remove a certain HUD after X seconds from a player screen ... in this case minetest.after() is better suited ... but if you have a mod that checks the player pos on each step minetest.after() would be terrible |
| 13:44 |
Krock |
!tell ThomasMonroe https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6796#issuecomment-352254876 It's about the x86 Android build. I doubt you've installed that OS on your computer |
| 13:44 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: I'll pass that on when ThomasMonroe is around |
| 13:44 |
Krock |
<3 MinetestBot |
| 13:44 |
MinetestBot |
<3 Krock |
| 13:44 |
* Jordach |
pets MinetestBot |
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| 13:49 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, barely anyone uses x86 Android on PC correct? The only way I know of running it is in Virtual Box |
| 13:50 |
Jordach |
QEMU works |
| 13:50 |
Jordach |
(from what i've tested) |
| 13:50 |
Krock |
x86 is not restricted to PCs, but I imagine other uses of that processor architecture aren't too popular like ARM is |
| 13:51 |
Krock |
playing Minetest on a toaster is the feature! (not talking of old Pentium II machines with a Riva TNT card) |
| 13:52 |
Krock |
s/feature/future/ |
| 13:58 |
Fixer |
i've played on Riva back in the day, Colin McRae Rally *cough* |
| 14:00 |
Fixer |
Riva TNT 2 Vanta iirc |
| 14:08 |
Calinou |
Fixer: Richard Burns Rally anyone? :P |
| 14:08 |
Calinou |
I only played its demo though |
| 14:08 |
Calinou |
but I know a guy who is a big fan of it |
| 14:08 |
Fixer |
nope |
| 14:08 |
Calinou |
(the Stunt Rally developer) |
| 14:08 |
Fixer |
Colin Mc Rally, Need For Speed 3 |
| 14:11 |
Calinou |
I also played the NFSMW demo too |
| 14:11 |
Krock |
Not For Safe Madness Work |
| 14:11 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 14:12 |
Calinou |
fun fact: there's a popular Node.js library called NSFW |
| 14:12 |
Aerozoic |
I was pro back on the original NSFMW lol |
| 14:12 |
Krock |
get your security belt then |
| 14:12 |
Calinou |
its module name is even "nsfw" |
| 14:12 |
Krock |
xD |
| 14:13 |
* Calinou |
left his PC up overnight to download Steam WINE games |
| 14:13 |
Calinou |
the perks of ADSL |
| 14:13 |
Fixer |
also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_Racer |
| 14:13 |
Calinou |
Fixer: there's an open source reimplementation going on |
| 14:13 |
Calinou |
that game was my childhood :D |
| 14:13 |
Fixer |
mine too |
| 14:13 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/OpenSWE1R/openswe1r |
| 14:13 |
Fixer |
i played it briefly |
| 14:13 |
Fixer |
along with NFS |
| 14:13 |
Fixer |
Q1 |
| 14:13 |
Fixer |
etc |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
wow, KWin crashed entirely and didn't automatically restart |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
I restarted it by hand, which wasn't easy as TF2 is running |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
(and was on top) |
| 14:17 |
Fixer |
also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-16_Multirole_Fighter |
| 14:17 |
Calinou |
god, it crashed again |
| 14:17 |
Fixer |
played it on W95 |
| 14:17 |
Fixer |
OSR2 with that INTERNET EXPLORER INCLUDED !!!!1113211 |
| 14:18 |
Calinou |
>when the Windows 10 ISO downloads at 200 KB/s connection despite your connection being able to download 1.3 MB/s |
| 14:21 |
sfan5 |
you only have 13 Mbit/s? |
| 14:23 |
Fixer |
i only have 2 |
| 14:23 |
Fixer |
.______________. |
| 14:26 |
Fixer |
Calinou: DL win7 iso instead, W10 is useless |
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| 14:32 |
Fixer |
there was provocative articled about DX12/Vulkan, it said the whole thing is a bust and did not take off and offer little benefits or performs worse |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
lol, no |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
sfan5: 11 Mb/s download, yeah |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
and 1 Mb/s upload |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
that's good ADSL actually |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
but still ADSL |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
(the average speed in France is 7 Mb/s for ADSL) |
| 14:37 |
sfan5 |
oof |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
before late 2012, I had 2 Mb/s! |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
and 0.3 Mb/s upload |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
since March 2015, I have 11/1 |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
(but worse ping than before…) |
| 14:45 |
Fixer |
Calinou: 1Mbit upload is even worse than mine |
| 14:45 |
Fixer |
Calinou: why they suck with upload? |
| 14:45 |
Calinou |
yeah, I can't stream at all |
| 14:45 |
Calinou |
because it's ADSL? |
| 14:46 |
Calinou |
it's not even VDSL2 (my brother has that) |
| 14:46 |
Calinou |
he has something like 35/4 |
| 14:46 |
Fixer |
my ISP does not even restricts upload for higher priced plan |
| 14:46 |
Calinou |
we only have one speed for ADSL here |
| 14:46 |
Calinou |
(and uncapped data) |
| 14:47 |
Fixer |
if your line can do 3mbit upload, it will upload |
| 14:47 |
Fixer |
while my speed sucks, it is unlimited pretty much |
| 14:48 |
Fixer |
i have 100gb of traffic in both directions per month |
| 14:48 |
Calinou |
3 Mb/s upload isn't a thing in ADSL, only in VDSL2 |
| 14:48 |
Calinou |
the max in ADSL is 2 Mb/s and that's very rare |
| 14:48 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i have 2mbit upload |
| 14:48 |
Fixer |
2/2 plan pretty much |
| 14:51 |
Fixer |
why mc is fun and mtg is not https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Minecart_booster |
| 14:51 |
Fixer |
one of the reasons |
| 14:52 |
Calinou |
only 2 Mb/s download? is it SDSL? |
| 14:54 |
Fixer |
Calinou: megabit* |
| 14:54 |
Calinou |
Mb = Megabit |
| 14:54 |
Calinou |
MB = Megabyte |
| 14:54 |
Fixer |
Calinou: ADSL2 |
| 15:21 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf, I do have videos, but only one with my voice |
| 15:26 |
Calinou |
I have an hard time imagining people's voice :D but I guess that's everyon,e |
| 15:26 |
Calinou |
everyone* |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, nice idea with discussion #3 but I tend to work randomly on stuff I've ran into |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
so predictions are very hard :3 |
| 15:39 |
rubenwardy |
well, it's optional |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
that just for letting you know |
| 15:39 |
rubenwardy |
and the important bit is giving opinions on development rather than specific goals |
| 15:39 |
rubenwardy |
but no worries |
| 15:41 |
Fixer |
I"VE GOT ENOUGH TO BEAT A MEME |
| 15:41 |
Fixer |
Calinou: easy, rubenwardy has typical UK voice, end of story |
| 15:41 |
rubenwardy |
:D |
| 15:42 |
Krock |
Fixer, you can't beat memes. They only let beat themselves due Chuck Norris |
| 15:44 |
rubenwardy |
alright gov'ner |
| 15:44 |
rubenwardy |
fancy a cuppa |
| 15:44 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfuwF_oC_0 |
| 15:45 |
Jordach |
cheers luv |
| 15:45 |
Jordach |
the cavalries here |
| 15:47 |
rubenwardy |
how now, brown cow |
| 15:48 |
rubenwardy |
damn it |
| 15:48 |
rubenwardy |
afk, making tea |
| 15:48 |
rubenwardy |
as in a cuppa |
| 15:49 |
Jordach |
i've already got one rubenwardy, with english breakfast teabags |
| 16:24 |
Fixer |
heh, hand bugs in mc beta |
| 16:24 |
Fixer |
reminded me of our recent ones |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
ha |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
HANNDDSS |
| 16:25 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, but do you have unique per player custom hands? |
| 16:25 |
Jordach |
all i want is to redefine textures on the fly |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
we do |
| 16:25 |
Jordach |
for nodes and items |
| 16:26 |
rubenwardy |
I forget what the API is |
| 16:26 |
rubenwardy |
but you can have per player hands |
| 16:26 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, https://jordach.net/images/guzrdmtzenlcmvzfba.gif |
| 16:26 |
rubenwardy |
your URLs make me sad |
| 16:26 |
rubenwardy |
:D |
| 16:26 |
Jordach |
https://github.com/Jordach/Solar_Plains/blob/master/mods/wardrobe/hands.lua |
| 16:26 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, ^ |
| 16:28 |
Jordach |
because i need to layer a bunch of shit and have the node which is used as the hand registration |
| 16:28 |
Jordach |
doing that on the fly may not be possible |
| 16:30 |
Jordach |
i've wondered if modifying the node registry table |
| 16:30 |
Jordach |
woukld work |
| 16:35 |
Fixer |
looool |
| 16:36 |
Fixer |
probably will crash beta server, megahuge cactus farm entities over 4000 |
| 16:36 |
Krock |
Jordach, emoji spinner |
| 16:37 |
Jordach |
Krock, https://jordach.net/images/wzuigqzsetmmsxnay.gif |
| 16:38 |
Krock |
perfect loop again. |
| 16:47 |
Fixer |
mc beta, 4000 entities, getting about 0.2 fps |
| 17:10 |
Krock |
minetest, 4000 entities = ? |
| 17:11 |
rubenwardy |
will be flippin' slow, given we use a O(n^2) algorithm |
| 17:12 |
Fixer |
Krock: it is already slow at 100 entities iirc |
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| 17:52 |
Jordach |
reee |
| 17:54 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: i've checked mobs_redo, they still have INSTATURN |
| 17:54 |
rubenwardy |
huh |
| 17:54 |
rubenwardy |
maybe it's players that interpolate just due to step size |
| 17:55 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: is not there was PR recently by Krock to interpolate smth? |
| 17:55 |
rubenwardy |
looks like it just improves which way the entity interpolates |
| 17:56 |
IhrFussel |
Fixer, I manually patched my mobs_redo with the PR content and the mobs now turn slower..of course not fluent still |
| 17:56 |
Krock |
blame points at me? |
| 17:56 |
Fixer |
not really blame |
| 17:56 |
Fixer |
maybe we should bump tenplus1 or smth |
| 17:57 |
Fixer |
to fix mobs |
| 17:57 |
Fixer |
maybe even write in news about this new feature |
| 17:57 |
Krock |
was it already used there? I guess that required some ugly workarounds |
| 17:58 |
Fixer |
is this one about mob rotation? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/089f594582862d041a5bf3fa0f41d637248e31de |
| 17:59 |
Krock |
yes, but only when automatic_face_movement_dir is specified in the object properties |
| 17:59 |
IhrFussel |
The mobs turn definitely slower, not by much though..it's fully lag dependend..if the server has a 0.5 sec lag it will still be instant turn |
| 18:00 |
IhrFussel |
Or are you talking about some new thing in 0.5.0-dev? |
| 18:01 |
Fixer |
new thing in 0.5.0 |
| 18:01 |
IhrFussel |
Mobs Redo isn't 0.5.0 compatible I think |
| 18:01 |
Fixer |
i'm running it just now |
| 18:01 |
IhrFussel |
Or at least I think ten won't break the compat yet |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
why not? there's no API breakage |
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| 18:02 |
IhrFussel |
Well if mobs redo uses that new entity property it might behave weird in 0.4.X? not sure |
| 18:03 |
Fixer |
you can always have several branches of mod, one for 0.4.17 and one for 0.5.0, and download buttons to both |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
download? clone everything |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
Minetest is a girl. https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/7kb78u/damn_girl_are_you_a_newspaper/ |
| 18:16 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: Yep, I watched some of your videos |
| 18:16 |
Megaf |
by the way, I'm in the airplane :) |
| 18:17 |
Megaf |
They are finishing the boarding |
| 18:20 |
Roger9 |
is there a way to change the textures of an object (not its definition, but an actual object that's been spawned)? |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
yes |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/player_api/api.lua#L45 |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
get the objectref instead of the player to call set_properties and it will work just fine |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
!next |
| 18:23 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 18:23 |
Roger9 |
Yay! |
| 18:25 |
Fixer |
!back |
| 18:29 |
Roger9 |
how can I tell if the object is resting on a block as opposed to in the air? |
| 18:30 |
Megaf |
Fixer: After some reboots and updates Wifi came back to life |
| 18:30 |
Megaf |
and nouveau driver is working |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 18:31 |
Megaf |
So I will just keep using nouveau for now |
| 18:31 |
Megaf |
and when wifi fails, there's always bluetooth as backup. |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
nouveau is no-go on new nvidias |
| 18:32 |
Megaf |
yep, old nvidia here, 320M |
| 18:32 |
Krock |
Roger9, perhaps check the velocity against being 0 for all axis? |
| 18:32 |
IhrFussel |
Guy joins server and says "Hey guys join my super cool server 127.0.0.1:30001" |
| 18:32 |
Megaf |
I will keep testing nouveu driver, if it's working well I might just make it the default |
| 18:32 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, connection timed out |
| 18:33 |
Roger9 |
Krock: well, I'm checking to see if it's *on* the ground so I could check the velocity on the Y axis, but meh... |
| 18:33 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, same situation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/72ilfe/lets_help_them_share_their_success/ |
| 18:33 |
Roger9 |
what if I temporarily set the velocity to be downwards, and check to see if the velocity actually got set to downwards or if it was set to 0? |
| 18:33 |
Krock |
Roger9, let the collision calculation do that for you |
| 18:34 |
Roger9 |
Krock: I want the object to bounce when it hits collision, though. |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
then cache the velocity of the previous step |
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| 18:36 |
Megaf |
0.6 Seconds lag on 2G tethered using Bluetooth. Not too bad. |
| 18:36 |
Megaf |
0.2* |
| 18:36 |
Megaf |
And roaming. |
| 18:36 |
Megaf |
and inside an airplane |
| 18:39 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: lol |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
wait until you hit the ocean |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
gib pics |
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| 18:46 |
Megaf |
$ uname -a |
| 18:46 |
Megaf |
Linux Aluminium 4.14.0-1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.14.2-1 (2017-11-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 18:46 |
Megaf |
Lovely Kernel ^ |
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| 18:51 |
Roger9 |
Krock: velocity doesn't seem to be set to 0 on collision |
| 18:51 |
Megaf |
time to go into airplane mode, taking off soon. cya |
| 18:52 |
Roger9 |
because that's what my code is currently looking for, and it doesn't seem to be doing anything |
| 18:52 |
Megaf |
11:30 hours of flight |
| 18:52 |
Krock |
Roger9, Y velocity should be at least near zero (say, 0.001) |
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| 18:55 |
Roger9 |
Krock: that still doesn't seem to work |
| 18:55 |
Roger9 |
for the x axis I'm using "(math.abs(v.x) < vThreshold) and (math.abs(ov.x) > dThreshold)", where ov is the old velocity |
| 18:55 |
Roger9 |
local vThreshold = 0.005; local dThreshold = 0.01 |
| 18:58 |
Krock |
are you sure the old velocity is updated correctly? That code looks good |
| 18:59 |
Roger9 |
nope, turns out I missed a "self." and was instead setting "old_velocity" as a global variable |
| 19:00 |
Roger9 |
yay, it works! |
| 19:02 |
Krock |
*yay* |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
where is Megaf going to? |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
(and where from?) |
| 19:06 |
Roger9 |
hm |
| 19:06 |
Roger9 |
which version of lua does minetest use? |
| 19:06 |
Roger9 |
should I use math.atan2 or math.atan? |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
5.1.2 |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
(usually LuaJIT) |
| 19:08 |
Roger9 |
yay! |
| 19:11 |
Krock |
Roger9, atan2 if you want correct rotation signs |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
5.1.4, actually |
| 19:15 |
Calinou |
Lua 5.2 and 5.3 aren't supported |
| 19:15 |
Calinou |
we're stuck in a corner with LuaJIT 5.1 :) |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
but it may be different if you use system lua or luajit |
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Roger9 |
?? |
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* Jordach |
pets MinetestBot |
| 21:09 |
Fixer |
ha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V59YdBfDwQ |
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Fixer |
o_O https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kc7OfjdEJ4 |
| 22:05 |
Roger9 |
https://i.imgur.com/gGPOWpD.png |
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IhrFussel |
Is it safe to set chunksize in minetest.conf for an already existing world? Or could it corrupt something? |
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