| Time |
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| 00:01 |
Jordach |
sofar, there's a sky packet? |
| 00:02 |
Jordach |
all i want to do is overlay alpha textures onto the dynamic skybox |
| 00:30 |
Jordach |
+ |
| 00:32 |
Fixer |
alpha textures... |
| 00:50 |
Megaf |
[16:18:07] <IhrFussel> benrob0329, my server is free but not open-source... many of my mods are unique modifications I don't want to share to prevent copy cats from using what makes my server so unique |
| 00:50 |
Megaf |
same |
| 00:50 |
Megaf |
I have many unique mods |
| 00:53 |
rubenwardy |
congrats |
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| 01:08 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: lol |
| 01:08 |
Megaf |
My best mod is one that I didnt create myself but I updated them, more_blocks |
| 01:08 |
Megaf |
just amazing mod |
| 01:08 |
Megaf |
Thankfully it is with minetest-mods now |
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Megaf |
good night |
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| 06:04 |
sofar |
https://i.imgur.com/KS0VJp9.png <- differently colored sky? |
| 06:15 |
benrob0329 |
sofar: looks nice, it makes it feel like a bright sunshiny day |
| 06:16 |
benrob0329 |
more cartoony, which can be good or bad |
| 06:17 |
sofar |
the green was just a gag, really, but e.g. dark blue and shades of orange may work really well |
| 06:18 |
sofar |
as well as various shades of white/gray for dark and moody days |
| 06:18 |
benrob0329 |
it could work depending on the feel of the game |
| 06:19 |
sofar |
it needs careful use, not hello kitty adventure island style |
| 06:19 |
benrob0329 |
I'm scared to know what horrid colors were chosen for that |
| 06:20 |
sofar |
pink, obviously |
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tumeninodes |
mod needed on the forum, new member smith |
| 06:29 |
sofar |
already banned |
| 06:29 |
tumeninodes |
excellent |
| 06:33 |
tumeninodes |
hey... can you work colour blends into the sky, or just single colour? |
| 06:38 |
sofar |
the sky code does a bunch of blending already, so best to not interfere with that |
| 06:38 |
sofar |
then it'll work nicely in various conditions |
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tumeninodes |
logical thinking..., I like it |
| 06:58 |
tumeninodes |
it's half past old people's bedtime... nite |
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| 10:02 |
Megaf |
Good morning folks |
| 10:14 |
Megaf |
I think we should have a channel just for server admins :| |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 10:23 |
Megaf |
So, Im Brazil now, and still almost speaking in English to people. Brain still working in English |
| 10:33 |
Raven262 |
Hi Megaf, Calinou |
| 10:33 |
Megaf |
Hi Raven262 |
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| 12:17 |
Megaf |
What's my servers address again? |
| 12:19 |
Megaf |
!up 5.196.88.227 30003 |
| 12:19 |
MinetestBot |
5.196.88.227:30003 is up (10ms) |
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| 13:35 |
Mr_Pardison |
morning/afternoon/evening twoelk |
| 13:35 |
twoelk |
o/ |
| 13:37 |
* twoelk |
repoints some channels that moved from inchra to freenode |
| 13:43 |
twoelk |
duh, so many dead channels in my old channel list :-( |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
sorry for such short notice, twoelk |
| 13:51 |
twoelk |
no problem |
| 13:52 |
VanessaE |
With ShadowNinja just plain gone, I just don't have the time or the mental budget to keep up, so I discontinued my inchra server and moved my minetest instances to freenode #ve-minetest-servers |
| 13:55 |
twoelk |
lol - how do I quit a connection that doesn't respond correctly? |
| 13:56 |
* Mr-Pardison |
pokes Sokomine and hands them some gingerbread person shaped sugar cookies |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
twoelk, unplug ethernet, disconnect from wifi |
| 13:57 |
twoelk |
yeah and then reconnect everything again - I should have added - how do I do it gracefully |
| 13:59 |
Mr-Pardison |
maybe sacrifice grace for speed? |
| 13:59 |
Mr-Pardison |
but then you make mistakes with speed so.... no. |
| 14:01 |
twoelk |
this is stupid, there must be some command to stop failing line buildups ............ |
| 14:02 |
twoelk |
<- insert some curses |
| 14:02 |
twoelk |
argh!! |
| 14:02 |
Mr-Pardison |
fudge nuggets. |
| 14:03 |
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| 14:07 |
twoelk |
does anybody else use KVIrc ? |
| 14:08 |
* Mr-Pardison |
uses Kiwiirc |
| 14:09 |
Fixer |
twoelk: ncurses inserted |
| 15:00 |
benrob0329 |
Its a beautiful 40° day here in Michigan |
| 15:01 |
Mr-Pardison |
and on the lower half of the states it's 61 degrees F and rainy. |
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| 15:07 |
twoelk |
we got the usuall grey, slushy wet and cold but not freezing first part of winter weather (usually it gets somewhat whiter in the second half) |
| 15:07 |
Mr-Pardison |
we rarely get snow and if we do it's not much. |
| 15:08 |
twoelk |
snow has gotten rarer |
| 15:08 |
twoelk |
so has ice |
| 15:08 |
benrob0329 |
Oh its wet here too, but its melted enough that the cement is clear |
| 15:09 |
twoelk |
I miss the skating on ponds and streems |
| 15:09 |
benrob0329 |
twoelk: tell that to the northern states |
| 15:09 |
benrob0329 |
We got record breaking snowfall a few years ago iirc |
| 15:10 |
twoelk |
it's been quit some years since I last walked on sea ice on the baltic :-( |
| 15:10 |
Fixer |
please use Celsius |
| 15:10 |
benrob0329 |
At least for anything recent |
| 15:11 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: 4° C |
| 15:11 |
Fixer |
ty |
| 15:12 |
benrob0329 |
The winter coat was getting a little warm as a matter of fact |
| 15:12 |
Fixer |
americanos have very weird cloth style in winter |
| 15:13 |
Fixer |
in North |
| 15:13 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: coats, pants, hats |
| 15:13 |
benrob0329 |
What's wierd about it? |
| 15:14 |
Fixer |
friends that live there noticed its weirdness |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
i'm mostly immune to the cold |
| 15:14 |
Fixer |
Jordach: UKs winters are ---- |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
Fixer, -2C last night |
| 15:15 |
Mr-Pardison |
Jordach: what about the heat of a Texas summer? |
| 15:15 |
twoelk |
Jordach: you might feel so but your body would be as vurnerable as any |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
twoelk, there's a reason why i overheat nearly instantly above 24C |
| 15:16 |
Fixer |
Jordach: ? |
| 15:16 |
twoelk |
fun fact, all british I know don't get allong well with heat |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
recently, instead of breaking down food and drink the normal way, with caloires being the output, they're instead directed into heating |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
i have to almost crash out myself just to stay cool |
| 15:17 |
twoelk |
including my kentish born nephew |
| 15:18 |
Fixer |
twoelk: it is not like UK has big heat |
| 15:18 |
twoelk |
still, britsh freeze to death just as easy as all others or else scott would have survived |
| 15:18 |
Fixer |
EU continental summers suck so much, i'm fed up with this heat |
| 15:19 |
Fixer |
i'm ok with 30C, but not 40C |
| 15:19 |
Fixer |
leave your 40C to Africa |
| 15:19 |
benrob0329 |
Then there's Michigan, -20F wind chill to 100F blistering heat |
| 15:19 |
twoelk |
I'm always amazed how much the weather differs between the west baltic coast and Berlin for example |
| 15:20 |
Fixer |
oceanic vs continental |
| 15:20 |
Fixer |
continental is hot summer and cold winter |
| 15:20 |
twoelk |
northsea is like 10°c in summer and 10°c in winter :-P |
| 15:21 |
twoelk |
while Berlin is allready more continental compared to that |
| 15:21 |
Mr-Pardison |
Fixer: forget Africa, Try Texas summer heat. |
| 15:21 |
twoelk |
bah, been there, done that |
| 15:22 |
twoelk |
lived in saudiland, lived on borneo ; texans stop complainin' :-P |
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| 15:36 |
Megaf_ |
MinetestBot! |
| 15:36 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf_! |
| 15:38 |
Megaf_ |
twoelk: /ns ghost nick and then /ns release nicj |
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twoelk |
Megaf_: ? |
| 15:42 |
Megaf_ |
MinetestBot! |
| 15:42 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf_! |
| 15:42 |
twoelk |
if it's about stopping the reconnect script for a single failing connection while not disabling it completely and not disconnecting all other live connections - the sollution in KVIrc is shift+leftclick on the item in the tree view |
| 15:43 |
twoelk |
as discussed on #kviirc |
| 15:43 |
Megaf_ |
That will make freenode disconnect you |
| 15:44 |
Megaf_ |
the ghost command |
| 15:44 |
twoelk |
oops kvirc of course |
| 15:44 |
Megaf_ |
so it works independent from the IRC client |
| 15:44 |
Megaf_ |
And I used to use kvirc, back in 2005 |
| 15:44 |
twoelk |
you cannot disconnect what never connects |
| 15:44 |
Megaf_ |
2005 was more than 10 years ago :S |
| 15:45 |
Megaf_ |
oh boy |
| 15:45 |
* Megaf_ |
feeling old |
| 15:45 |
twoelk |
hehe, can't be older than me |
| 15:46 |
OldGaf |
Sure you are not the eldest in this channel either |
| 15:46 |
* twoelk |
wonders where his fidonet node is gone |
| 15:46 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf_: new Doctor who is 12 years old, soon to be 13 |
| 15:46 |
twoelk |
there are only a handfull in my age I know of |
| 15:47 |
Megaf |
twoelk: well, you older our younger than 47? |
| 15:47 |
benrob0329 |
BTTF is 32 years old |
| 15:47 |
Megaf |
What's BTTF? |
| 15:48 |
benrob0329 |
Back To The Future :P |
| 15:48 |
Megaf |
ah |
| 15:48 |
Megaf |
yep |
| 15:49 |
Megaf |
well, I've met lots of 30+ and 40+ stupid people and some 8 years old that were quite amazing, with a fantastic English and amazing building skills |
| 15:49 |
benrob0329 |
https://youtu.be/e8TZbze72Bc |
| 15:50 |
Mr-Pardison |
some young kids do have a bit of skill when it comes to building. |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: don't even try to see how old Star Trek is |
| 15:50 |
benrob0329 |
Oh gosh, what was that...1968 or something? |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
Yep |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
Just around the time they landed on the moon |
| 15:51 |
Mr-Pardison |
both of them went where no man had gone before. |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
well, not really, the original movie is from 1979 |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
the series is from 1966 tho |
| 15:51 |
benrob0329 |
1966 for TOS |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
Beat me to it :P |
| 15:52 |
Megaf |
And I remember watching the then new Next Generation, with the bald guy, and I didnt really like because it was too new and I prefered the old version |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
51 years |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
Little younger than Doctor Who :PP |
| 15:52 |
twoelk |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_duzQzS1I |
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| 16:00 |
Fixer |
*,,,,,,,,,* |
| 16:23 |
Megaf |
29C right now |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: Dec-18 21:37 UTC <Fixer> smallest meme gif i ever seen |
| 17:50 |
rubenwardy |
brb |
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Jordach |
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/224/002/df6.png |
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Mr-Pardison |
afk |
| 20:04 |
Megaf |
something changed in Minetest that now is making lots of mods crash |
| 20:04 |
Megaf |
2017-12-19 20:03:57: ERROR[Main]: ...nMegafServer/bin/../mods/minetest-nether/nether/init.lua:778: in function 'grow_tree' |
| 20:04 |
Megaf |
2017-12-19 20:03:57: ERROR[Main]: ...nMegafServer/bin/../mods/minetest-nether/nether/init.lua:620: in function <...nMegafServer/bin/../mods/minetest-nether/nether/init.lua:359> |
| 20:04 |
Megaf |
2017-12-19 20:03:57: ERROR[Main]: ...afServer/BinMegafServer/bin/../builtin/game/register.lua:412: in function <...afServer/BinMegafServer/bin/../builtin/game/register.lua:392> |
| 20:04 |
Megaf |
moretress at times crash too |
| 20:05 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: its difficult to debug without the full backlog |
| 20:05 |
benrob0329 |
er, error |
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| 20:06 |
Megaf |
Just the usual Minetest stuff benrob0329, a mod indexes a nil value and boom, everything explodes |
| 20:06 |
Megaf |
I dont have memory left to open a webbrowser and pastebin here, if I do it will freeze my computer, because Minetest client is open |
| 20:07 |
benrob0329 |
thats a sad amount of ram |
| 20:07 |
benrob0329 |
could you paste into a PM? |
| 20:08 |
benrob0329 |
First though, if mods don't check nil that's partially there fault |
| 20:10 |
Megaf |
4 GB... |
| 20:15 |
Mr-Pardison |
baq |
| 20:17 |
benrob0329 |
was vector.set_data_to_pos changed? |
| 20:17 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: set points to vector.set_data_to_pos, so I assume that function was changed |
| 20:35 |
benrob0329 |
semver would help with this you know :P |
| 20:36 |
benrob0329 |
because then we would know "hey, this is a breaking change, I'm going to wait until the mod updates to upgrade the engine" |
| 20:36 |
benrob0329 |
right now you have to dig through the changelogs to find if anything broke |
| 20:40 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrV4zNrXMnQ very noice |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
[18:17:24] <benrob0329> Megaf: set points to vector.set_data_to_pos, so I assume that function was changed |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
thats what I said... |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
[18:04:15] <Megaf> something changed in Minetest that now is making lots of mods crash |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
its not mods fault |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
its mInetest faults |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
they change stuff all the time without testig |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
and I can blame myself for this too |
| 21:27 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: I only have my server because my players are actually paying me to run it |
| 21:27 |
Megaf |
honestly I had enough of this. very sad, as I already said various times |
| 21:27 |
Megaf |
I put so much time in this and after EVERY update things just break |
| 21:28 |
Megaf |
We need someone to be a proper head fort he project |
| 21:28 |
Megaf |
someone that will not just disapear |
| 21:28 |
Megaf |
some who has been running minetestserver for 5 years at least, who knows the community |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
someone who actually enjoys playing it |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
and who has been somwhat involved in the development |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
And we need proper version numbers |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
major.minor.littlefix |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
and nreaks only happen in major version changes |
| 21:30 |
Megaf |
minor changes just bring improvments without changing gameplay |
| 21:30 |
Megaf |
and littlefix just fixes stuff like typos, documentation and translations. |
| 21:30 |
Megaf |
Having the thing to completely break from 0.4.14 to 0.4.16 is plain ridiculous |
| 21:31 |
Megaf |
On Windows you can still run stuff for windows 95 on windows 10. In minetest 3 weeks old stuff is no longer supported |
| 21:31 |
Megaf |
Not cool! |
| 21:32 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: ^ :S |
| 21:32 |
Megaf |
:( |
| 21:32 |
Megaf |
(My spell check doesnt work on macOS for some reason) |
| 21:40 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf, any breakages are likely unintentional |
| 21:41 |
Megaf |
then we get back to the same old problem, lack of testing/quality control |
| 21:41 |
rubenwardy |
can't see any set_data_to_pos funtion |
| 21:41 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf, yup. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=19038 |
| 21:43 |
benrob0329 |
funny, I can't find that function at all in the vector.lua history |
| 21:43 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf ^^ |
| 21:43 |
Megaf |
well, that function not even existing doesnt help much, does it? |
| 21:44 |
benrob0329 |
I don't think this is MT's fault, something else changed |
| 21:44 |
benrob0329 |
do you have vector-helpers? |
| 21:44 |
Megaf |
maybe |
| 21:44 |
Megaf |
I dont have my server console open now |
| 21:44 |
Megaf |
and will not work anymore on MT today |
| 21:44 |
benrob0329 |
https://github.com/HybridDog/vector_extras |
| 21:45 |
Megaf |
been working on my server the whole day |
| 21:45 |
benrob0329 |
https://github.com/HybridDog/vector_extras.git |
| 21:45 |
benrob0329 |
if you want a direct git, to avoid opening a web browser :-) |
| 21:46 |
rubenwardy |
git works without the .git |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
man, I hate macOS |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
and windows |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
brb |
| 21:50 |
Fixer |
0.8 kb/sec DL, not bad |
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Megaf |
Back |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: I'm a full time student as well |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
I know the feeling, well, you seem to understand my point of view |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
now, let me check this vector thingy |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
minetest Platinum:~/MegafServer/BinMegafServer/mods$ cd vector_extras/ |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
minetestPlatinum:~/MegafServer/BinMegafServer/mods/vector_extras$ git pull |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
Already up-to-date. |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
minetestPlatinum:~/MegafServer/BinMegafServer/mods/minetest-nether$ git pull |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
Already up-to-date. |
| 22:23 |
Megaf |
so, minetest-nether, the old version that I had, it crashes on start up |
| 22:23 |
Megaf |
with the minetest changes |
| 22:23 |
Megaf |
it worked in .4.14 |
| 22:24 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: benrob0329 http://paste.debian.net/plain/1001570 |
| 22:24 |
Megaf |
and the current version of nether crashes anytime a tree grows |
| 22:24 |
Megaf |
suggestions? |
| 22:25 |
rubenwardy |
(y) |
| 22:25 |
rubenwardy |
read the code, see what's at that line? |
| 22:27 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: by the way, thank you for the well writen post clearly describing our current situation |
| 22:28 |
rubenwardy |
local tab = minetest.wrap_text(content, guide_size.fx) |
| 22:28 |
rubenwardy |
odd |
| 22:29 |
Megaf |
well, that might be in the current snaptshot |
| 22:29 |
Megaf |
let me check here |
| 22:30 |
Megaf |
local tab = minetest.splittext(content, guide_size.fx) |
| 22:30 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: ^ |
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| 22:39 |
Megaf |
can I juat change that to the warp thing? |
| 22:39 |
Megaf |
:P |
| 22:41 |
rubenwardy |
wrap |
| 22:41 |
rubenwardy |
and yes |
| 22:42 |
Fixer |
https://youtu.be/Wxyg1_3Rb68?t=17 love those china slogans |
| 22:46 |
Megaf |
lemme try that then |
| 22:47 |
sofar |
friendly reminder the FREE Public Remote Media Server is bored and wishes to serve more user content to players! |
| 22:47 |
sofar |
If you have no remote media server, just use the PRMS! |
| 22:47 |
Megaf |
sofar: you just made something I've been wating to do for 5 years |
| 22:47 |
Megaf |
host all the media files in a server and let everybody use |
| 22:48 |
sofar |
if you want, I'll add the mods you're using and keep them up to date, nothing you need to do except point your remote_media to the right URL |
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sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18951 |
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Megaf |
rubenwardy: now this 2017-12-19 22:48:43: ERROR[Main]: ...MegafServer/bin/../mods/minetest-nether/nether/guide.lua:320: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got string) |
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Megaf |
2017-12-19 22:48:43: ERROR[Main]: stack traceback: |
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sofar |
it already hosts about 300mb+ of media atm |
| 22:49 |
Megaf |
lets see the line |
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Megaf |
sofar: with my server you will easily double that |
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sofar |
doubt it |
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Megaf |
for _,str in ipairs(tab) do |
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Megaf |
form = form.."label["..guide_size.cx ..","..guide_size.cy+y..";"..str.."]" |
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Megaf |
y = y+guide_size.fy |
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Megaf |
l = math.max(l, #str) |
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sofar |
just tell me what git trees you're using |
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sofar |
Megaf: it already contains *all* of minetest-mods (including homedecor etc) |
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Megaf |
minetestPlatinum:~$ du -hs MegafServer/mods |
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Megaf |
151M MegafServer/mods |
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Megaf |
That's my light version |
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Megaf |
ok, I have around 300 MB in mods in total |
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Megaf |
sofar: some mods have no git anymore |
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Megaf |
some are from me |
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Megaf |
dont know if I should try to fix the old nether or the current nether |
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Megaf |
and now I can't get server to start anymore |
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Megaf |
lol |
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Megaf |
Shara: ping |
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benrob0329 |
Crap, can't OP myself from Riot mobile, and ChanServ won't do it (even though I'm logged in via sasl) |
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benrob0329 |
Will grab laptop in a minute |
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Megaf |
benrob0329: you are opped |
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Megaf |
benrob0329: try just /voice #channel nick |
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benrob0329 |
My alt nick isnt |
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Megaf |
battery is almost dead, cya |
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Jordach |
i almost installed hackintosh instead of windows |
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Jordach |
when re-installing my system |
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* benrob0329 |
gets frustrated as Hexchat refuses to SASL properly |
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ThomasMonroe |
? |
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ThomasMonroe |
it SASL's for me properly |
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Fixer |
"Microsoft Removes Google's Chrome Installer From the Windows Store" |
| 23:39 |
Fixer |
"Windows Store apps that browse the web must use HTML and JavaScript engines provided by Windows 10" ouch, thats anal |
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Fixer |
nevermind |
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Fixer |
new 0.4.17 build |
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red-001 |
when your rendering engine is so bad you have to force people to use it |
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red-001 |
also rip CEF apps |
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Fixer |
red-001: also someone pointed out there is facebook abb with webkit builtin, so MS just does not like chrome as a competitor in store |
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red-001 |
what MS abusing their power to stop fair competition?, they would never do such a thing. |
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twoelk |
stopping a fart competition? MS might be wiser than I thought :-D |
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benrob0329 |
what the heck |
