| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Calinou |
https://lut.im/YBOCnGnuVU/YfS9qXCvOqfqPa8t.png |
| 00:00 |
Calinou |
yay, got my Xbox One V3 controller working in Bluetooth mode on Linux by following the advice in https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1670662#p1670662 |
| 00:01 |
rubenwardy |
nice |
| 00:02 |
rubenwardy |
I have an Xbox 360 controller, so needed an adapter |
| 00:02 |
rubenwardy |
fancy fixing Minetest's controller support? |
| 00:02 |
rubenwardy |
;) |
| 00:02 |
Calinou |
heh, no |
| 00:02 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 00:02 |
rubenwardy |
same |
| 00:02 |
Calinou |
first-person games are best played with a mouse anyway |
| 00:03 |
Calinou |
the only usecase is playing from a couch, when plugging your PC to a TV |
| 00:03 |
rubenwardy |
anything close to game.cpp is hella messy |
| 00:03 |
Calinou |
but that's a niche usecase for open source games |
| 00:03 |
rubenwardy |
and input is partially in game.cpp |
| 00:03 |
Calinou |
(your IRL friends probably don't like them :D) |
| 00:03 |
tumeninodes |
sofar, oh right. But, if the skybox mod is installed, the media pack could certainly add new images for it? |
| 00:03 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah, like steam link |
| 00:03 |
rubenwardy |
my plan is to do that as soon as I save up for a TV |
| 00:03 |
rubenwardy |
oh, and a laptop that can power 4k |
| 00:03 |
rubenwardy |
s/laptop/computer/g |
| 00:04 |
tumeninodes |
I simply cannot play games like MC or MTG with a game controller, I am far to used to using mouse/keyboard |
| 00:06 |
Calinou |
high-quality software support right here: https://lut.im/lXNfwLwRal/q8ntb4tIsyBfHeqI.png |
| 00:07 |
Calinou |
this feels like a website telling you "Unsupported web browser" with a big box even though you're using Firefox 57 |
| 00:08 |
tumeninodes |
On a down note ha. I just bought my kid Windows 10, because I got him this for Christmas and it does not operate fully on Linux https://www.amazon.com/Huion-GT-190-Graphics-Wide-Angle/dp/B01NA09FKM |
| 00:11 |
Jordach |
tumeninodes: you could've bought a decent condition surface pro 2/3 for that kind of money |
| 00:11 |
* tumeninodes |
has been unsuccessful in converting the kid to Linux |
| 00:12 |
tumeninodes |
Jordach, we were looking at those but, he had his mind set on this device and it is really awesome. Maybe next year for a surface pro |
| 00:12 |
Jordach |
tumeninodes: they're great for getting shit done |
| 00:12 |
Jordach |
their i5 3xxx in the Pro 1 is perfect for my usage |
| 00:13 |
Jordach |
krita does lag just a little with the Pro 1 Wacom pen |
| 00:13 |
Jordach |
but that is the OpenGL canvas being the crap part |
| 00:13 |
Jordach |
turning it off makes it smooth as butter |
| 00:13 |
tumeninodes |
well, when my kid starts getting shit done, he can have one :P |
| 00:14 |
tumeninodes |
he won;t give krita a chance he is a fire-alpaca fan atm :/ |
| 00:16 |
tumeninodes |
how well does inksacape work on it? inkscape introduces just a bit more lag with each update since around 2009 (on Linux anyway) not sure for Windows |
| 00:17 |
Jordach |
windows generally has better APIs for everything |
| 00:17 |
tumeninodes |
actually, I have been using inkscape to completely revamp one of my TPs I have been working on |
| 00:17 |
tumeninodes |
well, it had better because.... money |
| 00:19 |
Calinou |
-*- tumeninodes has been unsuccessful in converting the kid to Linux |
| 00:19 |
Calinou |
I converted myself to Linux when I was a kid |
| 00:19 |
Calinou |
:-) |
| 00:19 |
tumeninodes |
But, I find I get better results using a proper vector software then a photo/raster tool such as gimp, for producing a truly clean TP |
| 00:20 |
tumeninodes |
I think he dislikes Linux as part of the rebellious stage :D This is his first Windows OS, we'll see how long before support is called ha |
| 00:21 |
tumeninodes |
and I told him "HE" will have to deal with MS support xP |
| 00:22 |
tumeninodes |
Linux will rule the world... (once we can get stallman out of the way) j/k... kinda |
| 00:23 |
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| 00:23 |
tumeninodes |
Windows is still just so "blah" and bland though, out of the box. They just distract people from that with retro now |
| 00:24 |
tumeninodes |
and they sure do love to ehem "borrow" from Linux ui here n there |
| 00:26 |
tumeninodes |
Calinou, you have to agree, Linux is still mostly appealing to younger people with an interest in programing. It still has that stigma attached to it, even in now 2018 |
| 00:29 |
tumeninodes |
I'm hogging up irc... so what can come from this whole "media-pack" idea earlier on this page? Is it a reasonable possibility? Maybe for 0.5.XXXX? |
| 00:33 |
Fixer |
crap |
| 00:33 |
red-001 |
Jordach, if windows is the one with the good apis, then I don't want to see linux apis |
| 00:33 |
Jordach |
red-001: they're generally better for graphical work |
| 00:34 |
Fixer |
can't pass doom 2 map17 due to obscurity |
| 00:35 |
tumeninodes |
hmmm, I wonder if MAC still holds the torch for graphical software? (it's been so long since OSX 10.2) |
| 00:44 |
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| 00:44 |
Jordach |
https://xkcd.com/1357/ |
| 00:48 |
tumeninodes |
hehe, I still have it... https://imgur.com/a/3OJHr |
| 00:49 |
tumeninodes |
oops, I made the image to large. My first imgur, yay |
| 00:51 |
tumeninodes |
12 hr left for my North America map conversion... /me is suddenly wondering how large that sqlite file is going to be. Maybe I shoulda cropped it |
| 00:52 |
sofar |
took my machine 9 days to convert the entire earth by lentebriesje |
| 00:52 |
tumeninodes |
wow ha. what is the full map like, 12gb? |
| 00:52 |
sofar |
3.5 I think |
| 00:53 |
tumeninodes |
oh, I have no worries then, whew. I am doing his North America map |
| 00:53 |
sofar |
350mb or so, mine turned out about that large |
| 00:54 |
tumeninodes |
yes for Canada... this will be America + Canada so I figure double or a bit less |
| 00:54 |
tumeninodes |
That's not bad at all |
| 00:54 |
Fixer |
America is continent |
| 00:55 |
sofar |
canada was less, probably to the large amount of sea |
| 00:55 |
Fixer |
there is no such thing as America + Canada |
| 00:55 |
Fixer |
Canada is located in North America |
| 00:55 |
Fixer |
you are welcome |
| 00:55 |
tumeninodes |
I am still extremely grateful for this conversion tool |
| 00:56 |
tumeninodes |
Fixer.. North America = The Americas and Canada |
| 00:56 |
Fixer |
you mean USA + Canada |
| 00:57 |
tumeninodes |
thpltpltpltplt |
| 00:57 |
tumeninodes |
^that's a raspberry |
| 00:58 |
red-001 |
hi celeron55 |
| 01:00 |
tumeninodes |
he's looking at us here, shaking his head |
| 01:09 |
TotallyNotRed |
oh btw a pro-tip if the botnet spammers are hitting you with pms and not just channel mass highlight set user mode +R |
| 01:10 |
tumeninodes |
thinking of how to word an issue (feature request) for switching to "mediapacks" and where it belongs MTG or Minetest? Unless someone else wants to or plans to make one |
| 01:10 |
TotallyNotRed |
minetest |
| 01:10 |
tumeninodes |
thanks red devilcake that will be very useful |
| 01:11 |
TotallyNotRed |
ahh |
| 01:11 |
TotallyNotRed |
well I guess I should change the nick back... |
| 01:12 |
TotallyNotRed |
tumeninodes, that's top secret, no-one can know, for all intents and proposes I'm Blue now |
| 01:12 |
tumeninodes |
So, minetest it is then, thanks. |
| 01:13 |
tumeninodes |
afk to chase of coyotes in trash... sigh... again |
| 01:13 |
sofar |
one day I won't LOL about it |
| 01:13 |
rubenwardy |
blue-100: should be blue-00f |
| 01:14 |
blue-100 |
you are making a good point |
| 01:14 |
blue-100 |
but 100 is the reverse of 001 |
| 01:21 |
rubenwardy |
created https://rubenwardy.com/donate/ and updated https://www.patreon.com/rubenwardy |
| 01:22 |
rubenwardy |
although you should probably use this one over mine: https://www.patreon.com/paramat |
| 01:33 |
tumeninodes |
well that was a bit unnerving. fun fact, coyote tend to get food aggressive in extra cold conditions but, they can be tamed to an extent :P |
| 01:34 |
tumeninodes |
spoiler alert, they love the Xmas ham |
| 01:36 |
rubenwardy |
*** FidgetSpinners joined the game |
| 01:36 |
rubenwardy |
oh no |
| 01:36 |
tumeninodes |
muahahahahaha |
| 01:38 |
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| 01:40 |
tumeninodes |
I wonder what ever happened with Captain Chaos? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16649 |
| 02:23 |
rubenwardy |
https://i.rubenwardy.com/7kpMzVPpu7.png |
| 02:23 |
rubenwardy |
\o/ |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
ohhh big commit ;) |
| 02:24 |
tumeninodes |
New years resolution.... check |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 02:24 |
xerox123_ |
Heh |
| 02:24 |
tumeninodes |
Hi Vanessa |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 02:25 |
tumeninodes |
and..., rubenwardy accomplished that with only 2 pizzas |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
yeah but how much mountain dew? |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 02:26 |
tumeninodes |
idk, how much does it take to literally vibrate? |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
the pizza is just the fuel, you need dew or coffee for the caffeine as a catalyst :) |
| 02:27 |
tumeninodes |
oh, perhaps you did not see my consumer tip link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ovhbT-Iulc |
| 02:30 |
tumeninodes |
I hope it makes you laugh ; ) |
| 02:31 |
tumeninodes |
potty break. TMI, deal with it |
| 02:33 |
rubenwardy |
what did coffee do to hurt him |
| 02:46 |
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| 02:51 |
tumeninodes |
coffee never hurt nobody |
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| 06:02 |
benrob0329 |
this PR makes me sad https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/385 |
| 07:05 |
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| 07:17 |
benrob0329 |
Ok, why was zoom added instead of a more general fov setter function we've been asking for for years, which would have been used to make better looking binoculars |
| 07:18 |
benrob0329 |
And why was a perfectly good visual effect rejected instead of disabled by default |
| 07:18 |
benrob0329 |
And why am I getting so fed up with the state of software nowadays |
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| 10:56 |
* Megaf |
wishes you all an amazing and brilliant 2018! |
| 10:59 |
sfan5 |
I think you might be a day late |
| 11:02 |
Megaf |
Negative |
| 11:02 |
Megaf |
I'm not wishing a happy new year good. I'm wishing the whole thing to be good |
| 11:02 |
Megaf |
;) |
| 12:09 |
red-F00 |
oh I got to 199 forum posts, only 57 to the next big number |
| 12:11 |
shivajiva |
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fnakedsecurity.sophos.com%2F2013%2F08%2F06%2Fjust-when-you-thought-it-was-safe-to-go-back-in-the-water-closet%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF-plvKiV_ipqRd1GDQxPMWLGIY7A |
| 12:12 |
red-F00 |
huh didn't expect that to work |
| 12:42 |
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| 13:23 |
red-F00 |
🕲 |
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| 15:00 |
CWz |
We need open source TV Shows |
| 15:00 |
CWz |
and movies |
| 15:00 |
CWz |
and animels that way we can fork one of "god's"/natures lamer creations and make em better |
| 15:01 |
benrob0329 |
Changing nature is almost never a good idea... |
| 15:11 |
Calinou |
open source cows NOW! |
| 15:29 |
twoelk |
sadly a lot of seeds are indeed not <opensource> anymore but have been copyrighted |
| 15:29 |
Calinou |
yeah, I've seen a project related to open source seeds a few years agfo |
| 15:29 |
Calinou |
ago* |
| 15:31 |
twoelk |
a few years ago they wanted to fade out a popular potatoe type because the copyright was going to run out |
| 15:31 |
twoelk |
they rather wanted it to go extinct than it being freely available |
| 15:33 |
Calinou |
similar things happened in the software/culture world as well |
| 15:33 |
Calinou |
(due to things such as software patents) |
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| 15:35 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 15:35 |
twoelk |
o/ |
| 15:35 |
tenplus1 |
hey twoelk |
| 15:35 |
twoelk |
\o |
| 15:36 |
twoelk |
o/ |
| 15:36 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe, how's things ? |
| 15:36 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
| 15:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi Cal |
| 15:36 |
Calinou |
my PC has been freezing several times lately :( |
| 15:36 |
Calinou |
while playing games |
| 15:36 |
Calinou |
(audio still plays, video freezes, can't do anything, have to shutdown) |
| 15:36 |
tenplus1 |
fedora build playing what games ? |
| 15:37 |
Calinou |
various games, native and WINE |
| 15:37 |
tenplus1 |
what gfx you got ? |
| 15:37 |
Calinou |
GTX 1080 |
| 15:37 |
tenplus1 |
nvidia's ownbinary blob ? |
| 15:38 |
* twoelk |
is trying to clear a stuck printer queue - without having to shut down several terminals and servers |
| 15:38 |
tenplus1 |
you ran printers util and flushed it ? |
| 15:39 |
twoelk |
FF has been freezing my older windows a lot lately - maikerumine was mentioning some memory leak in latest win10 |
| 15:40 |
twoelk |
done everything I could without sending everybody home |
| 15:40 |
tenplus1 |
you turned on new backend and hardware accel ? |
| 15:42 |
twoelk |
sorry was called away :-) |
| 15:43 |
twoelk |
guess I have some work after hours today :-/ |
| 15:44 |
Calinou |
tenplus1: yeah, binary driver |
| 15:44 |
tenplus1 |
in FF's about:config enable 'browser.cache.use_new_backend' = 1 |
| 15:44 |
Calinou |
(387.34) |
| 15:45 |
tenplus1 |
Cal, I had to go back a version for stability :0 |
| 15:45 |
Calinou |
yeah, that might be why, no idea how I'd rollback the driver |
| 15:45 |
Calinou |
(I'm using RPMFusion) |
| 15:45 |
tenplus1 |
ohhh, gotcha... rpm repo's arent same as debs |
| 15:46 |
tenplus1 |
the 375.82 works nice with wine and gaming :D |
| 15:51 |
benrob0329 |
Pale Moon master race :P |
| 15:51 |
benrob0329 |
No Mozilla crap |
| 15:51 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob :) |
| 15:51 |
tenplus1 |
havent used palemoon in a while, what's differences ? |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
| 15:51 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
| 15:52 |
Megaf |
I will just leave my newly created Diaspora user here. https://diasp.eu/people/30013aa0d2000135501a4061862b8e7b |
| 15:52 |
* Megaf |
looks at sofar |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: its an actual fork, rather than a rebranding of FF |
| 15:53 |
tenplus1 |
so uses open-source segments of FF |
| 15:53 |
Megaf |
pale moon sucks |
| 15:53 |
* Megaf |
runs |
| 15:53 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 15:53 |
benrob0329 |
And it doesnt come with Mozilla's definitely-for-profit (and spying, it would seen) |
| 15:53 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: you didn't even install a theme! |
| 15:53 |
Megaf |
I installed Opera for my grandmother couple of hours ago, je like it |
| 15:54 |
Megaf |
she* |
| 15:54 |
tenplus1 |
original Opera was better, the new chrome based one sucks |
| 15:54 |
benrob0329 |
Eww, proprietary browser |
| 15:54 |
* rubenwardy |
has reached 1GB of *compressed* logs on CTF |
| 15:54 |
tenplus1 |
am using Chromium with optimizations |
| 15:54 |
* Megaf |
deletest his logs afer short while |
| 15:55 |
benrob0329 |
I use chromium for WebRTC, thats about it |
| 15:55 |
rubenwardy |
cd .. |
| 15:55 |
benrob0329 |
Which, to be fair it has the best WebRTC implementation |
| 15:55 |
rubenwardy |
<_< |
| 16:02 |
tenplus1 |
from what I'm reading pale moon seems to have many issues |
| 16:05 |
Megaf |
Indeed it does |
| 16:05 |
Megaf |
and so does Minetest |
| 16:05 |
Megaf |
so what? |
| 16:05 |
Megaf |
:) |
| 16:05 |
tenplus1 |
I dont want my daily browser crashing in the middle of something important |
| 16:06 |
Megaf |
102 open issues for Pale Moon |
| 16:06 |
Megaf |
Minetest, will not even comment |
| 16:06 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 16:06 |
Megaf |
Tho the ration is quite ok |
| 16:06 |
rubenwardy |
it's worth not including feature requests |
| 16:06 |
rubenwardy |
and just counting bug reports |
| 16:06 |
Megaf |
lets see |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest will pribably still have more |
| 16:07 |
Megaf |
5 bugs open for Pale Moon |
| 16:07 |
Megaf |
Minetest, will still not comment |
| 16:08 |
twoelk |
there are a lot of rogue sites out there bound to crash your innocent or naive browser |
| 16:08 |
Megaf |
Tho Minetest seems to be much larger than Pale Moon community wise |
| 16:09 |
tenplus1 |
minetest is more fun :D |
| 16:09 |
* Megaf |
likes this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6849#issue-284698437 |
| 16:09 |
twoelk |
hopefully |
| 16:10 |
twoelk |
as in hopefully more fun |
| 16:10 |
Megaf |
sofar: rubenwardy: did you see that alreay? ^ #6849 |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
busy though |
| 16:11 |
Megaf |
LGTM |
| 16:11 |
tenplus1 |
+1 - good idea |
| 16:11 |
tenplus1 |
saves a ton of bogus player names with disconnects or bots |
| 16:11 |
Megaf |
my thought exactely |
| 16:12 |
Megaf |
sfan5: you like the code on #6849 ? |
| 16:12 |
Megaf |
concept and execution wise I'm quite happy with it |
| 16:12 |
sfan5 |
haven't looked yet |
| 16:14 |
* twoelk |
notices another printer with a job queue pointing to data nirvana ---- ?? |
| 16:14 |
tenplus1 |
what kinda printer ? |
| 16:14 |
twoelk |
this one a brother, the previous an HP |
| 16:15 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, the hplip-gui woulda been handy for job control, dunno about brothe tho |
| 16:15 |
twoelk |
hm, was away a week and now this |
| 16:16 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: Pale Moon has never crashed on me |
| 16:16 |
twoelk |
duh - did ms do some update to weed out older printers? or those companies that don't pay them enough? |
| 16:17 |
tenplus1 |
probably... |
| 16:17 |
benrob0329 |
As for Minetest, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/385 |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
twoelk: printer probably used TWAIN |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
TWAIN is deprecated |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
(massively) |
| 16:18 |
tenplus1 |
it's 2018, you'd think a printer standard would be a thing now |
| 16:18 |
benrob0329 |
I think that's all that needs to be said |
| 16:19 |
Jordach |
it's $<current_year> why does $x not work on $linux_distro |
| 16:19 |
* twoelk |
hopefully looks at the two remaining printers chugging away |
| 16:19 |
tenplus1 |
bash uses $(date +%F) so must be other codes for year etc |
| 16:20 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: its called CUPS :^) |
| 16:20 |
twoelk |
actually only some of our old scanners use TWAIN iirc |
| 16:20 |
tenplus1 |
cups for linux, not mac or winblows |
| 16:20 |
benrob0329 |
the Common Unix Printing Service |
| 16:20 |
twoelk |
oh and the odd old camera |
| 16:20 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: CUPS was made by Apple :-) |
| 16:21 |
tenplus1 |
is it on iOS ? |
| 16:21 |
benrob0329 |
Dunno about iOS, but without checking I can assume it's the default stack on MacOS |
| 16:21 |
twoelk |
I wish I had sage or what it was called on windows |
| 16:21 |
benrob0329 |
Being made and maintained by Apple under the Apache2 |
| 16:22 |
Megaf |
we had standard for decates already |
| 16:22 |
Megaf |
it's called... |
| 16:22 |
Megaf |
I forgot |
| 16:22 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 16:22 |
Megaf |
postfix? something like that |
| 16:22 |
Megaf |
postscript? |
| 16:22 |
benrob0329 |
PostScript |
| 16:22 |
twoelk |
hm should we trademark >I-forgot< ? |
| 16:23 |
benrob0329 |
But even PostScript isn't always perfectly standard as to printer features |
| 16:23 |
benrob0329 |
So you have cups configuration files that tell it what features/wierdness the printer has |
| 16:23 |
benrob0329 |
Standard on all *nix systems |
| 16:24 |
tenplus1 |
had to use cups for an old dotmatrix 9-pin at one time :) it made a driver that worked perfectly :D was well impressed |
| 16:24 |
twoelk |
and PS isn't always tha same, lots of dialects, though not as much as tiff |
| 16:24 |
* Megaf |
being eaten alive by mosquitos |
| 16:25 |
tenplus1 |
eat them back |
| 16:25 |
tenplus1 |
all that protein |
| 16:25 |
Megaf |
around my feet 20 at least |
| 16:25 |
benrob0329 |
Lol, eww |
| 16:25 |
twoelk |
yeah regain youre proteins |
| 16:25 |
Megaf |
10 per foot |
| 16:25 |
twoelk |
oh, cheesy blood? nope not gonna try that |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
deep fried |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
why not |
| 16:26 |
* benrob0329 |
hates mosquitos |
| 16:26 |
* tenplus1 |
had crickets before, not bad |
| 16:26 |
twoelk |
lets see, 10 per foot? that's longer than an inch for each |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
quite a lot i'd say |
| 16:27 |
Megaf |
and there's ~5 mosquitoes for each hand too |
| 16:27 |
benrob0329 |
23 square mosquitoes |
| 16:27 |
twoelk |
didn't freeze much in this winter yet - might be in for a buzzy summer |
| 16:27 |
Megaf |
Oh boy, will never leave this channel. channel is too good |
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| 16:30 |
tenplus1 |
hey Krock |
| 16:30 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 16:30 |
twoelk |
o/ |
| 16:31 |
Krock |
^^ |
| 16:31 |
Krock |
o/ twoelk |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf: reviewed #6849 :) |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
it's a big improvement, and long awaited feature |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
well |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
it's a good improvement for quality of life, and has been requested a lot to improve the menu experience |
| 16:32 |
Jordach |
link |
| 16:32 |
tenplus1 |
Jordach: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6849#issue-284698437 |
| 16:33 |
twoelk |
has the text been shortened? |
| 16:33 |
rubenwardy |
not yet, that needs to be done though |
| 16:34 |
Megaf |
I'd review the code and suggest editing tho I was asked to not review code because I'm note core deb |
| 16:34 |
Megaf |
dev |
| 16:34 |
twoelk |
you could review the wording :-P |
| 16:34 |
rubenwardy |
anyone can review code |
| 16:34 |
* tenplus1 |
reviews a cup of coffee and a donut |
| 16:35 |
rubenwardy |
imo anyone should be able to use the review feature |
| 16:35 |
rubenwardy |
and paramat should use the CSS to make it more obvious for him |
| 16:35 |
rubenwardy |
however, just giving a tick because you like the feature isn't reviewing |
| 16:35 |
rubenwardy |
use the emoji responses instead |
| 16:35 |
* twoelk |
is reminded reviews his cup and wanders off to the coffee machine |
| 16:36 |
twoelk |
is there a tl;dr button? |
| 16:42 |
Jordach |
starting MTG in a jungle |
| 16:42 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/St6Is41.gifv |
| 16:42 |
tenplus1 |
hahahaha |
| 17:10 |
* tenplus1 |
punches all the wood, and breaks his fingers |
| 17:11 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, a proper survival game would be amazing, digging for flint and bones to make tools to cut tree etc :) |
| 17:20 |
twoelk |
rl or mt? |
| 17:21 |
tenplus1 |
lol, mt :) |
| 17:21 |
twoelk |
phew |
| 17:21 |
tenplus1 |
already done my scout thing in the woods and jungle survival training... |
| 17:22 |
twoelk |
I've done it enough to know to enjoy civilization as much as possible :D |
| 17:22 |
tenplus1 |
yeah :) |
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| 17:24 |
twoelk |
I have a 9y niece who is pretty desperate to have some big adventure --- guess I'll have to volanteer |
| 17:25 |
twoelk |
havn't slept in the open for 6or7 years now |
| 17:25 |
tenplus1 |
into the woods in search of the rabbit hole |
| 17:26 |
twoelk |
she and her brother love running through the woods - just havn't stayed overnight yet |
| 17:26 |
tenplus1 |
a decent tent, camping gear and food they like :) |
| 17:27 |
twoelk |
I mean sleeping in the woods with all them strange sounds at night |
| 17:27 |
tenplus1 |
why? do you fart in your sleep ? |
| 17:27 |
twoelk |
lol |
| 17:27 |
twoelk |
best way to scare mosquitos away |
| 17:28 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
| 17:29 |
twoelk |
the last time I tried to sleep in a car with a bunch of kids on board ended in the legoland hotel in billund - too much noise on the parking lot, they just wouldn't sleep until the park opened |
| 17:30 |
twoelk |
although they might have been to excited as well :-P |
| 17:30 |
tenplus1 |
hahaha, kids :) same with xmas |
| 17:31 |
twoelk |
had a great time though |
| 17:31 |
tenplus1 |
that's what counts :P |
| 17:33 |
Fixer |
Jordach: i'm starting in the tree, usually #paramat |
| 17:33 |
Jordach |
jej |
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* twoelk |
imagines a fixer in a paramat tree |
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| 18:06 |
tenplus1 |
hi evergreen |
| 18:07 |
Fixer |
FINEST |
| 18:08 |
IhrFussel |
Someone on my server says they only see a gray screen after joining...I thought that bug was fixed in 0.4.16? Server is even 0.4.17 |
| 18:10 |
sfan5 |
that bug is only fixed if moods coorperate |
| 18:10 |
sfan5 |
in other words: you need at least 0.4.16 AND updated mods |
| 18:14 |
Fixer |
lel https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=nLSk7PKemu0 |
| 18:14 |
IhrFussel |
sfan5, what needs to be changed in inventory mods exactly? |
| 18:15 |
sfan5 |
dunno, look up it |
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tenplus1 |
hi nerzhul |
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| 18:28 |
nerzhul |
hi tenplus1 |
| 18:29 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 18:32 |
IhrFussel |
I cannot find anything about a fix for mods, sfinv either never had that issue or the PR name is something entirely different |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
wasn't it something to do with detacted inventories? |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
I think you need to make sure any attached inventory which are only for a single player are only sent to that single player |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2958 |
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| 18:38 |
IhrFussel |
So for example local trash = minetest.create_detached_inventory("trash", { -- FUNCTION end, player_name }) ? |
| 18:38 |
tenplus1 |
yeh |
| 18:39 |
rubenwardy |
local trash = minetest.create_detached_inventory("trash", {}, player_name) |
| 18:39 |
rubenwardy |
where you put callbacks in {} |
| 18:46 |
IhrFussel |
Does trash need it too? I mean it's the same for all players |
| 18:55 |
IhrFussel |
Is that bug caused by a race condition or what? Cause I didn't see it in a looong time |
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| 19:15 |
sfan5 |
no the trash does not need that |
| 19:19 |
IhrFussel |
Okay the only detached inventory missing the player_name parameter was 3d_armor (might be fixed in newer versions, I use an older one cause I modified a lot) |
| 19:22 |
sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19203&p=306640#p306640 |
| 19:22 |
sofar |
https://github.com/sofar/fsc |
| 19:23 |
sofar |
new mod, aimed at making writing secure formspec code simple |
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| 19:29 |
tenplus1 |
hi Darcidride_ |
| 19:29 |
Darcidride_ |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 19:29 |
tenplus1 |
o. |
| 19:31 |
sofar |
*anyone* who writes mods with minetest.show_formspec() should try and use `fsc` if they can, it really helps to break down formspec abuse vectors |
| 19:35 |
twoelk |
a working example might be usefull |
| 19:41 |
sofar |
the readme has a 90% working example... it's not that hard to stuff it into something |
| 19:41 |
sofar |
either I'll post some mods that are converted |
| 19:41 |
sofar |
or I'll add an actual example |
| 19:53 |
Fixer |
sofar: you mean so bad actors can use fsc to find weak parts in formspecs? :D |
| 19:53 |
sofar |
fsc actually makes it really hard to exploit bad fs callbacks |
| 19:54 |
sofar |
like, *really* hard |
| 19:55 |
sofar |
plus fsc is ... like 90 lines of code? |
| 19:55 |
sofar |
20 of which are the license? |
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| 19:57 |
tenplus1 |
o/ aerozoic |
| 19:57 |
aerozoic |
hi tenplus1 |
| 20:02 |
Fixer |
holy ----, new STK 0.9.3 can now run on my preancient ATI |
| 20:03 |
Fixer |
yayayayayay |
| 20:03 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 20:03 |
Fixer |
fps pretty good |
| 20:03 |
Fixer |
my ass is saved until that mining craze dies |
| 20:04 |
Fixer |
videocard prices are ridiculously high |
| 20:04 |
tenplus1 |
you can get a really good gfx card (nvidia) for 28 quid... |
| 20:04 |
tenplus1 |
fanless no less |
| 20:04 |
Fixer |
how much in usd? |
| 20:04 |
Fixer |
and what is quid? |
| 20:04 |
tenplus1 |
38 dollars |
| 20:04 |
Fixer |
fanless will probably suck |
| 20:05 |
tenplus1 |
nope, huge heatsink :) keeps it cool but no noise for gaming rigs |
| 20:05 |
benrob0329 |
Its squid without the s |
| 20:05 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: i have damn noise anyway, 2 fans, 1 on cpu and 1 on psu |
| 20:05 |
Fixer |
it sucks |
| 20:05 |
tenplus1 |
another reason to go fanless, reduce it |
| 20:05 |
benrob0329 |
I'd never buy another nvidia card, not unless the open source drivers become reasonable |
| 20:06 |
sfan5 |
so never |
| 20:06 |
benrob0329 |
sfan5: yeah pretty much |
| 20:06 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: on the other hand, summers are very hot, and funless will probably suck, i need performance, though, i need SSD, but it is not mature enough |
| 20:06 |
Fixer |
HDD is getting on my nerves |
| 20:06 |
Fixer |
more like Win7 on HDD |
| 20:06 |
tenplus1 |
ssds are cheap too now |
| 20:07 |
tenplus1 |
240gb for 68 quid |
| 20:07 |
tenplus1 |
but yeah, nvidia really need to work on opensource drivers more, ati is kicking their ass on that side of things |
| 20:07 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: the way they die worries me |
| 20:07 |
benrob0329 |
CUDA sucks, business practices suck, proprietary driver sucks |
| 20:07 |
benrob0329 |
*click* |
| 20:07 |
benrob0329 |
*click* |
| 20:07 |
tenplus1 |
fixer: hdd;'s or ssd;s dying ? |
| 20:07 |
Fixer |
i play on win anyway for now, not linux hater or anything |
| 20:08 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: ssd, one day it just stops responding in bios and you kinda go into window |
| 20:08 |
Fixer |
i dislike this |
| 20:08 |
tenplus1 |
ssd's are far more reliable than mechanical drives, and the SMART utils will warn you well in advance before it dies |
| 20:08 |
benrob0329 |
HDDs stop working |
| 20:09 |
benrob0329 |
Actually SSDs have no moving parts, so they theoretically last longer than HDDs |
| 20:09 |
shivajiva |
VanessaE: who should I harass about this https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/pull/104 ? |
| 20:09 |
benrob0329 |
sofar? |
| 20:10 |
benrob0329 |
He runs MT-Mods afaik |
| 20:10 |
rubenwardy |
technic isn't mt-mods |
| 20:10 |
rubenwardy |
you want VanessaE or ShadowNinja iirc |
| 20:10 |
VanessaE |
not me |
| 20:10 |
tenplus1 |
o/ Vanessa |
| 20:10 |
Krock |
shivajiva, ping nore |
| 20:11 |
Krock |
waiting for merge too. https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/pull/99 |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
VanessaE, it's unified inventory in the technic org |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
I don't work on unified inventor anymore |
| 20:11 |
nore |
I thought technic was merged in mt-mods? |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
+y |
| 20:11 |
Krock |
404, https://github.com/minetest-mods/unified_inventory not found |
| 20:12 |
VanessaE |
sofar: ^^^^ |
| 20:12 |
nore |
aaaah, we only transferred technic and not UI |
| 20:12 |
shivajiva |
just thought I'd give it a kick and see what happened :) |
| 20:12 |
benrob0329 |
Question, why not use sfinv? |
| 20:12 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: it is the way they die, i prefer ssd that at least lets me copy its data in read only mode |
| 20:13 |
VanessaE |
*kaff* shivajiva you stirred up a bunch of dust :P |
| 20:13 |
Krock |
benrob0329, because features |
| 20:13 |
Fixer |
really sad technic is not in minetest-mods |
| 20:13 |
Fixer |
Sad! |
| 20:13 |
benrob0329 |
What features? Button based inventories? |
| 20:13 |
nore |
technic is: https://github.com/minetest-mods/technic |
| 20:14 |
Krock |
built-in crafting guide and descriptive buttons |
| 20:14 |
nore |
the other mods are not |
| 20:14 |
Krock |
not to forget the quite large mod support |
| 20:14 |
shivajiva |
no offence to ruben but UI has a slickness about it that stands out, even if it's a monolith |
| 20:15 |
Fixer |
nore: niiice |
| 20:15 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iomejudoSR0 |
| 20:15 |
Fixer |
ha https://github.com/minetest-mods/technic/issues/402 |
| 20:15 |
rubenwardy |
UI would be a lot better if it had a non bile-inducing background and icon set |
| 20:15 |
rubenwardy |
and consistent spacing |
| 20:15 |
tenplus1 |
hehe |
| 20:15 |
tenplus1 |
ui is too bloaty and slow for me |
| 20:15 |
twoelk |
not sure that's UI's fault |
| 20:15 |
nore |
ShadowNinja: what do you think about transferring the other mods of minetest-technic to minetest-mods? |
| 20:16 |
Fixer |
what i dislike in UI is how slow is item page rotation |
| 20:16 |
benrob0329 |
I like simple things, sfinv is simple and fast, like the name :P |
| 20:16 |
Fixer |
you can't scroll like in NEI in MC, instantly, here it just sucks |
| 20:16 |
nore |
VanessaE: ping as well |
| 20:16 |
* VanessaE |
hides |
| 20:17 |
benrob0329 |
The craftguide mod in Mt-mods is really good for that |
| 20:17 |
shivajiva |
so basically it's become orphaned from technic :/ |
| 20:17 |
twoelk |
UI could be more modular |
| 20:17 |
ShadowNinja |
nore: Sounds goood. |
| 20:17 |
tenplus1 |
craftguide should be in default or built into inventory somehow |
| 20:17 |
ShadowNinja |
good* |
| 20:17 |
VanessaE |
nore, fine by me. |
| 20:17 |
rubenwardy |
tenplus1, craftguide does that |
| 20:17 |
red-F00 |
#6869 talk about confusingly named |
| 20:17 |
shivajiva |
yay |
| 20:17 |
rubenwardy |
might need an option though, I forget |
| 20:18 |
rubenwardy |
I started working on a mod pack which makes sfinv better for hardcore users |
| 20:18 |
nore |
sofar: is that okay with you? |
| 20:18 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: thats not hard, but I kinda like the idea of a reverse craftguide for in-inventory things |
| 20:18 |
Shara |
I wouldn't be happy running my creative server with anything over than UI. |
| 20:18 |
Shara |
other* |
| 20:18 |
benrob0329 |
Tbh I dislike having too many things in the inventory |
| 20:18 |
rubenwardy |
ie: helpful buttons (time, home, spawn), bigger inventory, craft guide |
| 20:18 |
tenplus1 |
K.I.S.S> |
| 20:18 |
twoelk |
if a craftguide was part of default it would need to be easily adapted to other games optical designs |
| 20:19 |
Shara |
tenplus1: RC would have WAY too many pages if I switched to any other inventory |
| 20:19 |
Shara |
plus I just like how UI works :P |
| 20:19 |
benrob0329 |
How hard would it be to make creative give stacks of 99, rather than 100? |
| 20:19 |
benrob0329 |
*rather than 1 |
| 20:19 |
rubenwardy |
too many pages? |
| 20:19 |
rubenwardy |
meaning creative |
| 20:19 |
rubenwardy |
*? |
| 20:19 |
Shara |
Yes |
| 20:19 |
red-F00 |
sofar, was planning to write something similar |
| 20:20 |
Shara |
RC has crazy numbers of nodes and things |
| 20:20 |
tenplus1 |
xdecors craftguide has +/- button to fit more per page |
| 20:20 |
Shara |
That's just for recipes though Ten |
| 20:22 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: thats the same as the one in Mt-mods |
| 20:23 |
tenplus1 |
would be nice to have sfinv creative/craftguide in one |
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| 20:23 |
tenplus1 |
hi Sokomine |
| 20:24 |
benrob0329 |
What if you put an item into the output slot of the crafting grid to reverse it? |
| 20:24 |
benrob0329 |
Aka decraft |
| 20:25 |
tenplus1 |
why reverse it ? |
| 20:25 |
benrob0329 |
Crafting guide |
| 20:25 |
benrob0329 |
You find the item, then learn how to make it |
| 20:26 |
benrob0329 |
And maybe you find recipies in dungeons, recipy books |
| 20:26 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 20:26 |
benrob0329 |
* recipe books |
| 20:26 |
benrob0329 |
If you can reverse craft though, maybe you could get the materials back out of it |
| 20:27 |
twoelk |
for some games it would indeed be more fitting if the crafting guide had a more book-like appearance |
| 20:27 |
benrob0329 |
The Hitchhiker's Guide to Minetest :P |
| 20:27 |
tenplus1 |
eheheh, nice |
| 20:28 |
benrob0329 |
Ohh, The Gamer's Guide to the Galaxy |
| 20:28 |
tenplus1 |
Minetest's guide to the galaxy |
| 20:28 |
benrob0329 |
New game project |
| 20:28 |
benrob0329 |
Maybe |
| 20:28 |
twoelk |
yeah, with personal notes :-D |
| 20:29 |
* twoelk |
types too slowww |
| 20:35 |
tenplus1 |
with a craftable babel fish for chat translations :D |
| 20:42 |
Sokomine |
we even have a fish tank in homedecor. though iirc the fish didn't like it much in a fish tank and preferred its more natural resting place |
| 20:45 |
sofar |
on my lunch plate |
| 20:46 |
Sokomine |
well...if you where too tired and your head including ear with fish fell on the plate..... |
| 20:46 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 20:46 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks o/ |
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| 20:46 |
sofar |
btw |
| 20:46 |
sofar |
if anyone wants to play with `fsc` and consider converting their mods to use it, let me know |
| 20:46 |
sofar |
I'll be willing to help you do it - it's not too difficult for most basic cases |
| 20:47 |
sofar |
I've already converted a ton of code to use fsc (for itb) and it is well tested (and simple) |
| 20:48 |
nore |
sofar: can I transfer the minetest-technic mods (at least the major ones) to minetest-mods? |
| 20:49 |
sofar |
I'd always quickly review the licenses, but yes, otherwise |
| 20:50 |
nore |
UI is code: LGPL v2.1+, textures: WTFPL |
| 20:50 |
nore |
should I change the WTFPL to CC0 before or after transferring it? |
| 20:50 |
nore |
(or do you want to do it?) |
| 20:51 |
nore |
lol, framedglass doesn't seem to have a license?!? |
| 20:51 |
nore |
VanessaE: ShadowNinja: ^ |
| 20:52 |
sofar |
it's not that it needs to change before transferring |
| 20:52 |
sofar |
it's more that I'd like to assess reasonable changes and we can implement them later |
| 20:52 |
nore |
ok |
| 20:52 |
sofar |
I prefer CC-BY-3.0 or CC-BY-4.0 for media as base license, and not CC0 |
| 20:53 |
sofar |
so if you relicense, just do CC-BY-4.0 |
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| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
idc about licensing but CC-By-SA is fine by me. not like we can ask the author :( |
| 20:54 |
nore |
hmmmm, strange, transferring didn't ask for a confirmation on minetest-mods side? |
| 20:54 |
sofar |
they can still obtain the content with the old license |
| 20:54 |
sofar |
you're an owner, you can transfer by yourself |
| 20:54 |
nore |
ah, yes |
| 20:55 |
ShadowNinja |
nore: Yeah, that's fine. |
| 20:55 |
nore |
should have thought about that |
| 20:55 |
sofar |
I wouldn't do -SA in this case |
| 20:55 |
ShadowNinja |
Not all of the -technic mods are really what I'd consider production-ready. |
| 20:55 |
sofar |
that's an unneeded restriction imho |
| 20:55 |
nore |
ShadowNinja: is LGPL v2.1+ okay for framedglass as well? |
| 20:55 |
nore |
(that is the only other one I was going to transfer though) |
| 20:55 |
sofar |
I've come to like the ISC license, it's even shorter than MIT |
| 20:56 |
sofar |
I used it in fsc |
| 20:56 |
paramat |
hey Megaf =) i didn't ask you to not review code, i want you to, i only asked to not create the official-looking 'approved' icon as it can cause confusion. you can review by leaving line comments and thread comments, please do |
| 20:56 |
paramat |
Megaf[m] ^ |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
paramat: github only shows stuff as "approved" if it was a repo member |
| 20:57 |
ShadowNinja |
nore: Yeah, that's fine. It was originally part of technic IIRC, so it would have whatever license technic has. |
| 20:57 |
sfan5 |
and the "inline" style is trivially distiguishable via the green vs gray check mark |
| 20:57 |
nore |
seems to be LGPL indeed |
| 20:58 |
nore |
sofar: I'll transfer framedglass as well, except if it's not okay with you |
| 20:58 |
red-F00 |
yeah it's really obvious if it's a collaborator or just anyone reviewing |
| 21:01 |
sofar |
nore: fine if you promise to update the licenses :) |
| 21:01 |
sofar |
let me know if any forum links need fixing, I can do that |
| 21:01 |
paramat |
sfan i know |
| 21:02 |
sfan5 |
sure it's unnecessary, but confusion is not the problem IMO |
| 21:04 |
nore |
I guess they probably need fixing |
| 21:04 |
benrob0329 |
The perfect license imho: Give credit and keep it free (as in speech) |
| 21:07 |
paramat |
i'm not too bothered, it's just that a big 'approved' with a tick in the thread looks official, seems to be for official use, and has already caused confusion. i don't like it but ok i'll tolerate it now |
| 21:07 |
rubenwardy |
"seems for official" -> it's not just for official use |
| 21:08 |
paramat |
i know, that's what i mean by 'seems' |
| 21:08 |
sfan5 |
review sure, but approval? |
| 21:08 |
sfan5 |
i'm not sure who at github thought it was a good idea to let randos "approve" PRs |
| 21:08 |
rubenwardy |
it is annoying to just have those ticks though without any messages (ie: "I tested this") or any reviews before hand |
| 21:08 |
paramat |
and i don't see the colours because i have to use custom webpage colours (for a black background) |
| 21:09 |
sfan5 |
i suggest hiding non-colored ticks then, a CSS rule should do the trick |
| 21:10 |
paramat |
yes |
| 21:10 |
paramat |
can't be bothered, not a big enough issue =) |
| 21:10 |
rubenwardy |
I wrote some CSS for you |
| 21:13 |
red-F00 |
rubenwardy, yes the idea behind 6528 was that changes in the client config (e.g. view range) don't get written to the server config |
| 21:13 |
red-F00 |
I suppose it might have been a better idea to also make the server config a global |
| 21:13 |
paramat |
thanks for the CSS |
| 21:14 |
rubenwardy |
> added team doors less than 10 minutes ago |
| 21:14 |
rubenwardy |
> already being abused |
| 21:14 |
rubenwardy |
https://i.rubenwardy.com/0p8he4UvDv.png |
| 21:15 |
sfan5 |
haha |
| 21:16 |
paramat |
rubenwardy see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3827#issuecomment-354876525 maybe your +1 needs reconsidering? |
| 21:17 |
Shara |
rubenwardy: that might have been my fault :P |
| 21:17 |
rubenwardy |
lol! |
| 21:17 |
Shara |
I happened to have four doors and nothing else, and noticed no one had built any defence :) |
| 21:17 |
rubenwardy |
note that the enemy can dig the doors |
| 21:17 |
Shara |
Yea, figured |
| 21:22 |
Megaf |
paramat: Ok, understood. |
| 21:22 |
Megaf |
notive my understanding problme above ^ |
| 21:23 |
Megaf |
that's why you (plural you, everyone) have to be very very very clear to when you talk to me |
| 21:23 |
Megaf |
And oh boy, is it hot in here |
| 21:27 |
sofar |
rubenwardy: just make it impossible to place them side-by-side |
| 21:28 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, working on that |
| 21:28 |
sofar |
but, I find it hilarious |
| 21:28 |
Megaf |
meh, I seem to have been logged out from GitHub in all my browsers |
| 21:29 |
sofar |
one day I need to poke at ctf code and spot some exploits :) |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
and I have two factor auth enabled, and my phone just broke |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
I think I was smart and copied the recovery codes to my keepassx |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
and I spread those around to like 3-4 places, lol |
| 21:31 |
Fixer |
Megaf: place sim into other phone? |
| 21:31 |
Megaf |
problem is I use an app |
| 21:31 |
Megaf |
that generates codes, for a number of auths |
| 21:31 |
Megaf |
not only GitHub |
| 21:31 |
Fixer |
okay, move along |
| 21:33 |
Megaf |
Yay, still logged in on Firefox Nightly |
| 21:35 |
sofar |
duo mobile is what I use on my phone |
| 21:35 |
sofar |
afk espresso run |
| 21:36 |
* Megaf |
doesnt understand |
| 21:36 |
sofar |
duo mobile == 2fa app |
| 21:36 |
sofar |
it's what I use to get github 2fa tokens |
| 21:37 |
rubenwardy |
did you not download back up codes? |
| 21:37 |
rubenwardy |
also, duo and google authenticater both implement TOTP 2FA codes |
| 21:37 |
rubenwardy |
it's a standard |
| 21:38 |
* Megaf |
doesnt get it |
| 21:38 |
Megaf |
besides, I have a pulsating type of headache right now |
| 21:38 |
Megaf |
not feeling good at all |
| 21:39 |
* Megaf |
grabs some paracetamol |
| 21:39 |
* Megaf |
grabs a glass of cocoa milk |
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| 21:40 |
Megaf |
Hello CBugDCoder |
| 21:40 |
nore |
sofar: license for images of UI should be fixed, could you review please? |
| 21:40 |
CBugDCoder |
hi Megaf |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
sofar: rubenwardy: How does that helps me? |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
the TOTP 2FA thing |
| 21:47 |
rubenwardy |
it doesn't |
| 21:47 |
rubenwardy |
if you don't have any backup codes you're fucked |
| 21:47 |
Megaf |
I have for some stuff, Not sure if I had for GitHub |
| 21:47 |
Megaf |
lemme check |
| 21:47 |
rubenwardy |
well, you can try talking to github, but they say that they won't allow you to disable it in their 2FA docs |
| 21:48 |
Megaf |
"Bryan Lunduke has started sharing with you!" |
| 21:49 |
Megaf |
wow! |
| 21:52 |
nore |
sofar: framedglass should be fixed as well |
| 21:52 |
nore |
(btw, I hate license-tracing files) |
| 21:54 |
Megaf |
well, I didnt find backup codes, though I found backup from some bitcoin wallets I had lost several years ago |
| 21:54 |
sofar |
har |
| 21:54 |
Megaf |
05/05/2012 backup date |
| 21:55 |
Megaf |
hopefuly I will have some money there |
| 21:55 |
nore |
how much has bitcoin increased since then? *100? |
| 21:55 |
sofar |
nore: datastorage seems entirely obsolete atm, so yeah, no need to move that I think |
| 21:55 |
nore |
sofar: yup, wasn't going to move it anyway |
| 21:55 |
nore |
although it is an optional dependency of ui for waypoints |
| 21:56 |
nore |
maybe that should be rewritten, possibly with compat code to import from old saves |
| 21:56 |
sofar |
maybe move that to mod_storage then |
| 21:56 |
sofar |
yes |
| 21:56 |
sofar |
player waypoints should go to player attributes maybe |
| 21:57 |
nore |
yep |
| 21:57 |
Megaf |
welp, I'm screwed. No backup codes backuo |
| 21:57 |
sofar |
and you can't get them through your logged in session? |
| 21:57 |
nore |
also, the license for the textures of UI are not the ones which were implied |
| 21:57 |
sofar |
how badly dead is your phone? |
| 21:58 |
nore |
(there's a LGPL image and a GPL one) |
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| 22:06 |
rubenwardy |
nore, not quite |
| 22:06 |
rubenwardy |
2700x |
| 22:06 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf: how many coins do you have? |
| 22:06 |
nore |
ah indeed |
| 22:06 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: no idea |
| 22:07 |
Megaf |
All I have are the private keys for my wallet |
| 22:07 |
Megaf |
I dont know how to restore it |
| 22:08 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: any idea how do I use these codes? |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
not really |
| 22:09 |
rubenwardy |
I think you can download a bitcoin wallet, and import the keys, to see the balance |
| 22:09 |
rubenwardy |
to get the money out you need to use an exchance |
| 22:09 |
rubenwardy |
*exchange |
| 22:14 |
Megaf |
yep, was thinking about that |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
$ file Bitcoin\ Wallet\ private\ key\ backup |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
Bitcoin Wallet private key backup: openssl enc'd data with salted password, base64 encoded |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
oh boy |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
it has a password |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
I will never get access to that again |
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| 22:18 |
tumeninodes |
so apparently, when I said "12 hrs left to go" on my North American map conversion (more than 12 hrs ago)..., that was just for half the map :P |
| 22:18 |
sofar |
haha |
| 22:18 |
sofar |
btw |
| 22:18 |
sofar |
what map are you converting? |
| 22:18 |
tumeninodes |
currently now at 16hrs left and approx 60,000+ chunks to go |
| 22:18 |
sofar |
and, using mcimport or something else? |
| 22:19 |
nore |
ShadowNinja has a fast map converter in C++, but it has less features than mcimport |
| 22:19 |
sofar |
SN's version got a lot better, at some point I should do some work on it to make it "palatable" |
| 22:19 |
tumeninodes |
It is the North American map by the same guy, using mcimport |
| 22:19 |
sofar |
I have a version with broken trees, sadly |
| 22:20 |
sofar |
but, a map without trees isn't so bad for what it was used for |
| 22:20 |
tumeninodes |
broken trees? haha high winds |
| 22:20 |
nore |
I guess the best course of action would be to merge all features of mcimport in the C++ version and then develop the C++ one instead |
| 22:21 |
tumeninodes |
well take into consideration my machine is probably half as beast as sofar's |
| 22:21 |
sofar |
nono, the machine I used was a 2011 nehalem |
| 22:22 |
sofar |
not a really new cpu with good single-core performance |
| 22:22 |
sofar |
it wasn't a bad cpu, but definitely nothing super new |
| 22:22 |
tumeninodes |
Well, I'm hefting an AMD A8 |
| 22:22 |
sofar |
haha, ok |
| 22:22 |
tumeninodes |
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/maps/1533625-north-america-1-1500-scale-in-minecraft-12k |
| 22:23 |
sofar |
yes that's about as bad, if not worse ;) |
| 22:23 |
tumeninodes |
:P |
| 22:23 |
tumeninodes |
I could have done worse and used my athlon xp :D |
| 22:23 |
sofar |
there are several problems with the conversion of his maps |
| 22:23 |
sofar |
I've tweaked mcimport to correct for some of the issues |
| 22:24 |
tumeninodes |
wait, don't spoil the disappointment for me |
| 22:24 |
sofar |
I won't :) |
| 22:24 |
tumeninodes |
I want to fall to my death for 22 hrs to compensate |
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| 22:26 |
tumeninodes |
I am eager to find out how it does though. I actually started repainting a spare room to divert my attention |
| 22:27 |
tumeninodes |
paramat, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1570#issuecomment-354614034 |
| 22:30 |
Fixer |
it is sad they renamed minecraft to minecraft java edition, like it is second class |
| 22:31 |
rubenwardy |
well it is now |
| 22:31 |
tumeninodes |
wait... it's not? |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
mcw10 edition can't even run on older OS, it is dumb |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
not really dumb, but ms pushing w10 |
| 22:32 |
tumeninodes |
ms wants to erase their past war crimes |
| 22:33 |
Fixer |
i did wrong by starting this offtopic |
| 22:34 |
tumeninodes |
nah, it's brief |
| 22:34 |
Fixer |
java one is very powerful, huge modbase, runs everywhere, a bit slow compared to bedrock engine (not really a problem) |
| 22:35 |
ShadowNinja |
tumeninodes: My C++ mapper is about 100x faster. I think it needs some tweaks to orientations though... |
| 22:35 |
Fixer |
anyone tried [WIP] Dynamic Shadows #6839 ? |
| 22:35 |
paramat |
yes will test those textures |
| 22:36 |
rubenwardy |
Fixer, nothing to try |
| 22:36 |
ShadowNinja |
It also supports doors on block boundaries which mcimport doesn't iirc. |
| 22:36 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: ? |
| 22:36 |
rubenwardy |
it doesn't work |
| 22:37 |
Fixer |
but maybe it does now? |
| 22:37 |
Fixer |
you tried latest? |
| 22:37 |
tumeninodes |
ShadowNinja, I will wait eagerly to test it |
| 22:37 |
rubenwardy |
yep |
| 22:58 |
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| 23:05 |
red-F00 |
ShadowNinja, could you have your bot also do that PR link thing here? |
| 23:07 |
Fixer |
http://pythonsweetness.tumblr.com/post/169166980422/the-mysterious-case-of-the-linux-page-table |
| 23:08 |
Fixer |
pretty serious problem |
| 23:14 |
* Calinou |
watches as people panic over it |
| 23:15 |
red-F00 |
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/a89f040fa34ec9cd682aed98b8f04e3c47d998bd#diff-678874d00bf0df04f6f427f16f1dea36R902 |
| 23:21 |
Fixer |
Calinou: not really |
| 23:22 |
red-F00 |
Calinou, needs a catchy name |
| 23:22 |
Fixer |
Calinou: what is bad is perf loss |
| 23:22 |
red-F00 |
if it doesn't have a catchy name it didn't happen |
| 23:23 |
tumeninodes |
leakgate |
| 23:23 |
Fixer |
rumors like 5-60% perf loss on Skylake in certain situations |
| 23:25 |
ShadowNinja |
#123 (test) |
| 23:25 |
Calinou |
red-F00: CPUbleed |
| 23:25 |
* Calinou |
trademarks it |
| 23:25 |
rubenwardy |
ShadowNinja, I banned the bot from this channel |
| 23:25 |
rubenwardy |
because it was useless and conflicting with MTB |
| 23:26 |
ShadowNinja |
rubenwardy: Ah, I'll have to override the previx here too. |
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| 23:29 |
ShadowNinja |
~config channel #minetest-hub reply.whenaddressedby.chars '~' |
| 23:29 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: O.K. |
| 23:29 |
rubenwardy |
#123 |
| 23:29 |
red-F00 |
#1 |
| 23:30 |
Megaf |
Downloading a wallet here, wish me luck |
| 23:30 |
ShadowNinja |
#123 |
| 23:30 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/123 -- crashes after about 10 seconds on game start |
| 23:31 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 23:32 |
ShadowNinja |
web#1 |
| 23:32 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/issues/1 -- Credits link to ohloh instead of OpenHub |
| 23:32 |
ShadowNinja |
Should all work now. |
| 23:32 |
rubenwardy |
thanks |
| 23:32 |
rubenwardy |
!help |
| 23:32 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
| 23:32 |
rubenwardy |
!rainbow #3 |
| 23:32 |
MinetestBot |
#​3 |
| 23:32 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3 -- Furnace segfault |
| 23:32 |
rubenwardy |
lol! |
| 23:32 |
red-F00 |
can someone change the title of #6858 to be less misleading all password storage is vulnerable to cracking, maybe like "Change to a more secure password hashing method" |
| 23:32 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6858 -- Passwords storage using SRP vulnerable to offline attack |
| 23:33 |
rubenwardy |
!rainbow ~help |
| 23:33 |
MinetestBot |
~help |
| 23:33 |
red-F00 |
!rev 100-der nees! |
| 23:33 |
MinetestBot |
!seen red-001 |
| 23:33 |
red-F00 |
!rev 1# |
| 23:33 |
MinetestBot |
#1 |
| 23:34 |
Jordach |
>expecting the bots to not have blacklists of certain nicks |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
I guess SB ignores MTB |
| 23:34 |
red-F00 |
!rev 100-der nees~ |
| 23:34 |
MinetestBot |
~seen red-001 |
| 23:34 |
red-F00 |
~seen red-001 |
| 23:34 |
ShadowBot |
red-F00: I saw red-001 in #minetest-hub 6 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 1 minute, and 20 seconds ago saying "Jordach, you got scammed they only gave you 7 "e"'s you need at least 11" |
| 23:34 |
red-F00 |
lol |
| 23:35 |
Jordach |
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 23:36 |
tumeninodes |
hmmm looks as though Jordach was compensated |
| 23:45 |
nerzhul |
!help |
| 23:45 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
| 23:45 |
nerzhul |
~help |
| 23:45 |
ShadowBot |
nerzhul: help [<plugin>] [<command>] |
| 23:46 |
nerzhul |
~help VanessaE make MT great again |
| 23:46 |
ShadowBot |
nerzhul: Error: There is no command "vanessae make mt great again". |
| 23:46 |
nerzhul |
:( |
| 23:46 |
nerzhul |
see you later :p |
| 23:46 |
Fixer |
Vanessa is not a plugin |
| 23:46 |
Fixer |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19204 |
| 23:47 |
nerzhul |
Fixer, are you sure ? :D |
| 23:48 |
Fixer |
no more drinks for nerzhul today |
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