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| 00:23 |
rubenwardy |
Check out @blblgme’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/blblgme/status/1045615208868253696?s=09 |
| 00:25 |
tumeninodes |
0_0 wha? |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
I'm tempted to reply: "Go ahead, try it." |
| 00:44 |
paramat |
the meaning of his tweet is unclear, the reply assumes a specific meaning. no worries |
| 00:45 |
tumeninodes |
go home notch, you're drunk |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
discretion, _ = valor(msg) |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
:"P |
| 00:49 |
tumeninodes |
tomorrow we all wake to find there was an 'acquisition' |
| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
well one thing for sure: that would stop He Who Has A Child Porn Obsession from continuing his efforts to rip us all off :) |
| 00:51 |
tumeninodes |
nah, he'd just become someone else's headache then |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
true, but that "someone else" has a whole lot more money in one bank account than the rest of us combined :) |
| 00:52 |
tumeninodes |
so very true |
| 00:53 |
tumeninodes |
although, I still have all these Isuzu stocks I could cash in... |
| 00:53 |
tumeninodes |
... oh, wait |
| 00:53 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:55 |
tumeninodes |
I meant to say Datsun..., but it's still funny |
| 00:56 |
VanessaE |
wonder how my shares in Bank of Zimbabwe are doing........ |
| 00:56 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 00:57 |
tumeninodes |
not too good, I just sent their exiled King my routing number |
| 00:57 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:59 |
tumeninodes |
somewhere in the world, deep in some dark woods, there is a Datsun pickup truck, buried up to the top 3" of it's roof, with a tree growing through it..., and it still runs |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 01:00 |
tumeninodes |
Don't laugh..., you know it's true :D |
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tumeninodes |
freenode must have a new K-Line gatling gun |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
it does |
| 01:10 |
tumeninodes |
it's doing a pretty good job |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
yep, but those "allah is doing" spams are sneaking through once in a while |
| 01:12 |
tumeninodes |
yeh, that allah is a pretty good hacker |
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| 09:20 |
BuckarooBanzai |
hi all, can anyone tell me why i can't override methods on an overridden item/node? The following code works on the water- and lava-bucket but not on the technic nodes: https://github.com/pandorabox-io/pandorabox_custom/blob/master/onplace_restriction.lua |
| 09:22 |
ANAND |
Technic is probably loaded after your mod |
| 09:23 |
ANAND |
Are you using the on_mods_loaded callback? |
| 09:23 |
BuckarooBanzai |
nope, but i added technic as a dependency and the technic-code is not deferred either.. |
| 09:24 |
ANAND |
Ah |
| 09:24 |
BuckarooBanzai |
i will try executing my code in the on_mods_loaded callback.. |
| 09:26 |
ANAND |
Adding technic as a dependency is sufficient |
| 09:26 |
ANAND |
The callback isn't required for this purpose. Sorry for misunderstanding |
| 09:28 |
ANAND |
Are you following the following convention for overriding items? |
| 09:28 |
ANAND |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/d77f3b3fdeb0da2a69547594b5a75570a54b02d1/doc/lua_api.txt#L232 |
| 09:29 |
ANAND |
The itemstring is required to be prefixed with a `:` character to indicate overloading |
| 09:29 |
VanessaE |
but you shouldn't use that feature. |
| 09:29 |
VanessaE |
use minetest.override_item() instead, if possible. |
| 09:30 |
ANAND |
Ah |
| 09:31 |
BuckarooBanzai |
did not try that yet but i will, technic uses that already: https://github.com/minetest-mods/technic/blob/master/technic/items.lua#L163 it hopefully works multiple times :) |
| 09:31 |
VanessaE |
it does. |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
as long as each thing being overridden in a node/itemis unique |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
like description changed by one mod, drawtype and model by another, groups by a third mod, etc. |
| 09:33 |
VanessaE |
otherwise, the things being changed just take on whatever setting was the last to be applied. |
| 09:34 |
VanessaE |
:mod: notation on the other hand is a total overwrite of the item, so it'll undo a prior override_item() call, and it'll also undo a prior redef of the node using that notation -- essentially :mod: notation un-registers the item, then creates a new instance of it. |
| 09:35 |
VanessaE |
so it's only useful if a mod needs to register some item under some other mod's namespace |
| 09:36 |
VanessaE |
(like mod "foo" wants to register "bar:baz_item", a leading colon is required) |
| 09:36 |
BuckarooBanzai |
i tried it with minetest.override_item() and it seems to work with both buckets and nodes (https://github.com/pandorabox-io/pandorabox_custom/blob/master/onplace_restriction.lua#L33) |
| 09:38 |
VanessaE |
yes. |
| 09:38 |
BuckarooBanzai |
thx for the help, one problem less with newbie griefers... :D |
| 09:38 |
VanessaE |
yw :) |
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ANAND |
Oh... Thanks for explaining how override_item works :) |
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VanessaE |
sorry if it seemed like I was talking down to you guys. |
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| 10:58 |
BuckarooBanzai |
no problem, you cleared things up :D |
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| 15:01 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 15:29 |
xerox123 |
heya tenplus1 |
| 15:29 |
tenplus1 |
hi xerox :) |
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| 16:13 |
tenplus1 |
wb |
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| 16:20 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob |
| 16:22 |
benrob0329 |
hi tenplus1 |
| 16:22 |
* benrob0329 |
is finishing a ~135m tall elevator for a mesecons contest |
| 16:22 |
tenplus1 |
ooh nice |
| 16:22 |
tenplus1 |
am tweaking lucky blocks :D |
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| 16:29 |
tenplus1 |
hey Krock |
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| 16:30 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 16:30 |
Krock |
> me, not ready one in a week |
| 16:30 |
Krock |
> wild tenplus1 appears |
| 16:30 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 16:30 |
Krock |
s/one/once/ |
| 16:30 |
tenplus1 |
choose one: math.random(-10,10)/9 or math.random()-0.5 |
| 16:31 |
Krock |
depends on which values you need |
| 16:31 |
tenplus1 |
item drops |
| 16:32 |
Krock |
former will generate whole numbers in [-10;+10], then divide by 9 which causes the maximal value being a little above 1 or below -1 |
| 16:32 |
Krock |
latter will come close to -0.5 or +0.5 |
| 16:33 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1, the only problem with my elevator design is the fact that its slow, but its only slow because of the activation mechanism |
| 16:33 |
tenplus1 |
so long as it works the mod functioning it can be optimized at a later time |
| 16:34 |
benrob0329 |
I'm using a stack of detector tubes to create a pulse going up or down |
| 16:34 |
tenplus1 |
Krock: good point, I want players ready with a baseball mitt to catch the items coming out :D |
| 16:34 |
benrob0329 |
but pipeworks items are slower than flying without fast |
| 16:35 |
benrob0329 |
I could use a staggered mesecon torch stack, but they all shift at once |
| 16:36 |
tenplus1 |
if it weren't for switching mesecon items on/off to show them active you could run it a lot smoother, and the resulting ON could show the odd particle effect maybe |
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tenplus1 |
o/ gael |
| 16:40 |
Gael-de-Sailly |
hi tenplus1 |
| 16:41 |
Gael-de-Sailly |
back in a minute |
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| 16:47 |
lisac |
lol OldCoder is back at it |
| 16:47 |
lisac |
just got an email |
| 16:47 |
tenplus1 |
crap! now what's he up to..... also hi |
| 16:48 |
rubenwardy |
the usual bs |
| 16:48 |
tenplus1 |
*deeper than usual sigh* |
| 16:49 |
Krock |
*checks emails* |
| 16:49 |
lisac |
hey tenplus1 |
| 16:50 |
lisac |
lol he attached a very long pdf |
| 16:50 |
tenplus1 |
gawd, no wonder the internet has been slow today |
| 16:50 |
Krock |
is it safe to open? |
| 16:52 |
TommyTreasure |
hi tenplus1. yup, yet another mobs question :) what is the difference between the parameters, 'active_object_count' and 'aoc'? |
| 16:53 |
tenplus1 |
hi tommy |
| 16:54 |
tenplus1 |
aoc is the number of that mob you want at one time within a map block and active_object_count is the number of entities the abm finds |
| 16:56 |
TommyTreasure |
ok, so by *not* specifying aoc = x could have caused the hundreds of mobs to spawn in 1 spot? |
| 16:56 |
TommyTreasure |
i'm using the 'mobs:spawn' method on the offenders. |
| 16:56 |
tenplus1 |
if you dont specify it then it defaults to 1 |
| 16:57 |
tenplus1 |
nil checks have a fallback value |
| 16:57 |
TommyTreasure |
hmmm, even if active_object_count is set to 1 or 2? |
| 16:58 |
TommyTreasure |
just ran a 4 hour test on my local server. i commented the active_... and added aoc =... and no swarms. also, the existing swarms seemed to die off within a few minutes of activity in those areas |
| 16:58 |
tenplus1 |
active_object_count is only used to make sure that it wont spawn an entity inside a mapblock if the max limit has been reached (usually 99 entities) |
| 16:59 |
TommyTreasure |
is that something that was changed in the past year in mobs_redo? |
| 17:00 |
tenplus1 |
before it was limited to how many mobs were active inside a block |
| 17:00 |
tenplus1 |
now it counts THAT kind of mob, e.g. sheep, cows, stone monsters etc. and wont go above the limit set for them |
| 17:00 |
TommyTreasure |
ok, its starting to make sense then. the swarms started after i updated a few months ago, and got totally out of control with the newest version |
| 17:00 |
tenplus1 |
the count_mobs() line handles totals |
| 17:01 |
TommyTreasure |
the 'swarms' only occured on the mobs that had active_ob.... set |
| 17:02 |
xerox123 |
yay! successfully flashed my phone to lineage 15.1 i think |
| 17:02 |
tenplus1 |
the count_mobs() function makes sure it wont spawn a third sheep in that area if only 2 max were specifiec |
| 17:02 |
tenplus1 |
*d |
| 17:02 |
tenplus1 |
congrats xerox |
| 17:02 |
Krock |
xerox123: nice. Freedom .. but root access still sucks if you don't have a bluetooth keyboard attached |
| 17:03 |
xerox123 |
plan on installing Magisk |
| 17:05 |
TommyTreasure |
btw, thanks for putting up with my questions. :) |
| 17:05 |
tenplus1 |
is ok |
| 17:05 |
tenplus1 |
always gives me a chance to double check things are working ok in the first place :D |
| 17:09 |
tenplus1 |
tweaked the mob count feature, lemmie test and upload changes |
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| 17:37 |
tenplus1 |
TommyTreasure: mobs redo api updated with counter tweaks |
| 17:41 |
Krock |
Will merge https://github.com/minetest-mods/technic/pull/390 in 5 minutes |
| 17:42 |
TommyTreasure |
tenplus1, ty. i'll grab it later today. time for a very long nap :) |
| 17:43 |
tenplus1 |
enjoy :P |
| 17:45 |
Krock |
merging https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/pull/129 too |
| 17:45 |
tenplus1 |
w00t! |
| 17:47 |
Krock |
done |
| 17:48 |
tenplus1 |
when registering an ABM, the active_object_count and active_object_count_wider return values since it counts how many entities are in that area... wouldnt it have been better to simple return the object lists instead |
| 17:49 |
Krock |
and push a table each time the ABM is triggered? really? |
| 17:49 |
tenplus1 |
hrm |
| 17:49 |
Krock |
aren't ABMs already slow enough without collecting the entity table references? |
| 17:50 |
tenplus1 |
doesnt it already collect the entities around it when running, but only return the count ??? |
| 17:50 |
Krock |
the entities are kept in Lua. Everything what the server knows is that there's some kind of thing with an ID at a position with some velocity |
| 17:52 |
Krock |
pushing an entity reference requires the server to look up each entity by its ID in the Lua table where the definitions are kept |
| 17:52 |
Krock |
still, it's an integer-indexed array but even that takes time |
| 17:52 |
tenplus1 |
am asking because the active_object_count_wider is very specific how many entities are inside the active abm range, yet... when I use get_objects_in_area with the same active_object_range * 16 it misses some |
| 17:53 |
Krock |
yes, because the server knows that there's something; but not what it is |
| 17:53 |
Krock |
and it misses some because the mapblocks are unloaded fast |
| 17:53 |
tenplus1 |
they are fully loaded at the time, I can actually see 3 sheep roaming around yet only 2 are picked up |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
active area of 1 )* 16) |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
does it get entities in a circular radius or square area ? |
| 17:54 |
Krock |
then it's the C++ code counting for objects which sucks |
| 17:54 |
Krock |
square area in mapblocks |
| 17:54 |
Krock |
*cubic area |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
good, that's what I was hoping... but something isnt right |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
it's missing entities |
| 17:55 |
Krock |
entities can in fact be active (stored) in another mapblock than they currently are |
| 17:57 |
tenplus1 |
the position and radius are taken from the actual mob trying to spawn, and if 2 area already active I would hope they would be counted |
| 17:57 |
tenplus1 |
oh wait, euclidean metric ? that cant be a box ? isnt that range from pos so circulat |
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tenplus1 |
o/ |
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ssieb |
\o |
| 18:40 |
tenplus1 |
laters folks |
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IhrFussel |
Today I learned that lua loop variables are "read-only" meaning modifying them does not in any way modify the real table values |
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Krock |
IhrFussel: not if the value of the key/value pair is a table |
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Fixer |
I knew UEFI will end in disasters like that :( https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/10/first-uefi-malware-discovered-in-wild-is-laptop-security-software-hijacked-by-russians/ |
| 21:23 |
Krock |
> DIP packaging for ICs in mainboards |
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Fixer |
ｆｕｔｕｒｅ ｗｅ ｄｅｓｅｒｖｅ |
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