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benrob0329 |
tumeninodes: Minetest Sugar Cookies, handed out as Fosscon :D |
| 00:11 |
benrob0329 |
Or Freenode Live |
| 00:14 |
tumeninodes |
yum |
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tumeninodes |
they may look funny though... |
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tumeninodes |
no shaders |
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benrob0329 |
Shara, could you give GreenDimond autovoice please? |
| 01:30 |
GreenDimond |
Thank you sir :) |
| 01:30 |
benrob0329 |
I don't think I have permission (or the know-how) to do so myself |
| 02:00 |
Shara |
Done |
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GreenDimond |
Ah, thanks :) |
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| 03:50 |
GreenDimond |
So I am confused. I have a custom property on some entity defs, but when I try to set them it complains that I am setting userdata. I have `parent` as an add_entity, and am using parent.children to set the value.. but clearly thats not how to do it |
| 03:50 |
GreenDimond |
I tried parent.object.children but that didnt work either (: |
| 03:54 |
jas_ |
parent? children? didnt know those were part of objectrefs |
| 03:54 |
GreenDimond |
Those are just names i've given things |
| 03:54 |
GreenDimond |
Sorry, I should have clarified |
| 03:55 |
GreenDimond |
`parent` is a variable I have set as an add_entity, `children` is the custom property I have in the entity def. |
| 03:55 |
jas_ |
i could look at the code |
| 03:56 |
GreenDimond |
Well im not sure the code is much help |
| 03:56 |
GreenDimond |
I think I am setting the wrong thing |
| 03:56 |
GreenDimond |
aka I shouldnt be using parent.children = bla to set it |
| 03:56 |
GreenDimond |
But I am unsure |
| 03:56 |
GreenDimond |
I will put together a gist in case that helps |
| 03:59 |
jas_ |
ok. ye im not sure either |
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| 04:04 |
GreenDimond |
In making this gist I found about 3 other bugs, none of which fixed my problem, but definitely would have hurt later :P |
| 04:04 |
GreenDimond |
https://gist.github.com/GreenXenith/8d5e1793ccccf4e57b231b09c2772953 |
| 04:08 |
jas_ |
i gotta check the doc but is it name the. def not def then name? |
| 04:08 |
T4im |
add_entity returns an ObjectRef, which would be userdata, not a table |
| 04:09 |
GreenDimond |
Right I think I figured that out |
| 04:09 |
GreenDimond |
which is why I tried parent.object |
| 04:09 |
GreenDimond |
but it couldnt find object |
| 04:09 |
GreenDimond |
because parent isnt self |
| 04:09 |
GreenDimond |
and.. still not a ta-- |
| 04:09 |
GreenDimond |
oh |
| 04:09 |
GreenDimond |
get_luaentity()? |
| 04:09 |
jas_ |
minetest.add_entity(pos, name, staticdata) |
| 04:09 |
T4im |
yea, try that one |
| 04:10 |
GreenDimond |
lol |
| 04:10 |
GreenDimond |
whaps |
| 04:11 |
GreenDimond |
parent.get_luaentity wont work now will it ;) |
| 04:12 |
GreenDimond |
Ok, we are getting somewhere.. |
| 04:13 |
GreenDimond |
Good news: No longer crashes, and supposedly(tm) works. Bad news: It either isnt setting something properly, or im not reading it right. But either way, at least that part works now :D |
| 04:16 |
jas_ |
when i work with entities i usually end up referring to mobs_redo |
| 04:16 |
GreenDimond |
Heh, i've done that a few times in the past. On this mod, however, I dont think it will help me with much :/ |
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jas_ |
interesting minetest.sound_fade is not used in MTG, however the carts mod simulates its effect by repeating the sounds at different gains. |
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| 11:40 |
Fixer |
github is not reachable for me |
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VanessaE |
Fixer: works for me. |
| 11:47 |
VanessaE |
no downtime reported in their status page, either. |
| 11:47 |
VanessaE |
(well, nothing notable since the 8th anyway) |
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| 12:24 |
jas_ |
you can do a lot with 50 lines of off topic |
| 12:25 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 12:25 |
jas_ |
oh there's a #minetest-chat |
| 12:26 |
jas_ |
i was just reading the topic |
| 12:26 |
jas_ |
how are you? |
| 12:26 |
VanessaE |
eh, I'm ok. |
| 12:26 |
jas_ |
fair to middling? |
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| 12:26 |
VanessaE |
yup. |
| 12:27 |
jas_ |
"be a lot fairer if you were middling tho right?" hehe |
| 12:27 |
jas_ |
so how about that new compat breakage |
| 12:27 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 12:27 |
jas_ |
yup, detached inventory removal methinks |
| 12:28 |
VanessaE |
what replaces it? |
| 12:28 |
jas_ |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/0a5e77132ae8c495c50cfc58bbe4ce1bfcd377e3 that's a super long url |
| 12:28 |
jas_ |
"breaks compat for good" haha, says 4 days ago tho |
| 12:29 |
jas_ |
maybe i didnt update in a while |
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| 12:30 |
VanessaE |
guess I won't be going to 5.0 any time soon |
| 12:30 |
jas_ |
you mean 5.0.0-dev |
| 12:30 |
jas_ |
like there will ever be a "5.0" haha |
| 12:30 |
VanessaE |
aye. |
| 12:30 |
* jas_ |
starts counting lines |
| 12:30 |
VanessaE |
but then again I don't think any mods I use detached inventories. |
| 12:31 |
VanessaE |
s/use/use have/ |
| 12:31 |
jas_ |
huh. they're pretty fun, for enderchest for example. i like to use that in beds |
| 12:31 |
jas_ |
so whatever bed you're at, u get the same 8*4 inv |
| 12:31 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, |
| 12:31 |
T4im |
unified inventories has them |
| 12:31 |
T4im |
for example |
| 12:31 |
VanessaE |
this is just adding an API call to delete an inventory |
| 12:31 |
jas_ |
and homedecor has wardrobe |
| 12:32 |
VanessaE |
it's not removing the *feature* |
| 12:32 |
jas_ |
if you grep -r detached i bet you find a bunch |
| 12:32 |
T4im |
indeed, that wasn't possible all that time :D |
| 12:32 |
jas_ |
ye before u couldn't remove one unless restart i think |
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| 14:43 |
IhrFussel |
Can LuaJIT handle 1 million nodes via WE //save ? |
| 14:44 |
Krock |
try it |
| 14:49 |
IhrFussel |
Looks like it can require quite a bit memory per node depending on meta/inventory |
| 14:49 |
VanessaE |
I've handled more, I'm pretty sure. |
| 14:50 |
T4im |
if you worry about memory, just restart the server before; it should free, at least temporarily, any leaked memory |
| 14:51 |
IhrFussel |
Luckily I did restart the server a bit ago so not much memory can be used by mods |
| 14:51 |
T4im |
but saving doesn't necessarily need to hold every node in lua memory there |
| 14:52 |
T4im |
it could just write and occasionally flush the stuff to file while iterating through it |
| 14:52 |
IhrFussel |
I don't think WE does that...or is that a lua(JIT) feature? |
| 14:53 |
T4im |
does what? |
| 14:53 |
IhrFussel |
Flushing to file while iterating through the nodes...AFAIK it does all at once |
| 14:54 |
T4im |
i haven't seen the code of //save, just saying, that it doesn't necessarily have to take up that much memory |
| 14:58 |
T4im |
ah no, you're right; all at once |
| 14:58 |
IhrFussel |
It does a file:write(result) [result comes from worldedit.serialize()] then file:flush() and file:close() |
| 15:00 |
IhrFussel |
If I assume 100 bytes per nodes...then it would be 100 million bytes which means 100 MB...correct? |
| 15:01 |
IhrFussel |
The area I save has barely any nodes with meta/inventories so 100 should be a good average |
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| 15:03 |
T4im |
it probably peaks right before serialization after the result table has been filled (with one sub table per node), lemme do a ballpark calculation |
| 15:04 |
T4im |
should be around 320byte maybe |
| 15:05 |
IhrFussel |
Welp...crash |
| 15:05 |
T4im |
per node |
| 15:05 |
IhrFussel |
ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: OOM error from mod 'worldedit_commands' in callback on_chat_message(): not enough memory |
| 15:05 |
T4im |
not counting the memory the values take up |
| 15:06 |
IhrFussel |
My machine got 12 GB RAM and luaJIT limits it so much |
| 15:06 |
T4im |
yea, i mean it's a bit over 300mb just for the tables and table indexes in this case for 1M nodes |
| 15:06 |
sfan5 |
install gc64 luajit if you want to actually make use of your memory |
| 15:08 |
T4im |
i suspect worldedit could fix this for //save, but might have to change the serialization format a little |
| 15:16 |
T4im |
or someone could write a stateful serialization function that essentially works like other IO; allowing to write objects to it, flush them on occasion, close the stream at the end to produce the same format as before |
| 15:27 |
sfan5 |
I think you could actually do this with the current serialization format, WE just doesn't |
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Fixer |
gc64 is very important, more people should try it |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
my servers use it. |
| 18:41 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: on linux? is it stable? |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
it's stable enough anyway |
| 18:44 |
Fixer |
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 18:44 |
Fixer |
"marked all as read", did it again |
| 18:56 |
VanessaE |
you FAIL :P |
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| 19:01 |
Krock |
Fixer: don't worry. it will be filled tomorrow again |
| 19:04 |
Fixer |
formspec, iiigighh |
| 19:04 |
Fixer |
after mc, our minetest formspec look sooo bad |
| 19:04 |
Fixer |
formspecs |
| 19:04 |
Fixer |
for example, book one |
| 19:09 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: no, just people not putting any effort into making it look nice. |
| 19:09 |
VanessaE |
you wanna see a nice formspec? look at my slots mod. |
| 19:09 |
VanessaE |
imho. :) |
| 19:09 |
VanessaE |
also, books need multiple pages. |
| 19:10 |
Fixer |
book formspec feels like it misses that MOTIF widget on the side just to make it retro |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 19:17 |
Fixer |
minetest is not the only victim of that, flightgear is second one... |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
with list opening up in weird ways and even more motif-like retrolook |
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Fixer |
https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en/collection/00004-009 |
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