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nerzhul |
Krock gg |
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| 10:17 |
Krock |
> does rotation debugging |
| 10:18 |
Krock |
> why do the boats not save |
| 10:18 |
Krock |
> actually uses dummy backend due to mapgen testing |
| 10:18 |
Krock |
> fml |
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| 13:27 |
IhrFussel |
My disk space on my server is FULL... now I need to stop ANY map generation ... mapgen_limit = 100 will do that right? |
| 13:30 |
Krock |
yes, but it might also reset the players on join to (0,0,0) |
| 13:30 |
Krock |
or wherever the spawn is |
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| 13:31 |
Krock |
when it's full you also cannot write to the player database (if only a few kilobytes are free) |
| 13:32 |
Krock |
delete old log files, your 10 GiB debug.txt and old backups. Hopefully that will gain some space again |
| 13:33 |
IhrFussel |
My debug.txt is only 200-300 MB nowadays I made bash scripts that cleanup trash files after each restart automatically, there is not much I can do there |
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| 13:34 |
IhrFussel |
36 MB are free now, enough to start the server with no map generation? |
| 13:36 |
Krock |
enough until the generated map has more buildings (reduced compression ratio) |
| 13:39 |
IhrFussel |
I guess I can move my debug.txt somewhere else to gain another 200 MB |
| 13:41 |
Krock |
symlink the log files to another partition and consider to either trim the map using a script or to get a VPS space upgrade |
| 13:41 |
Krock |
s/space/storage/ |
| 13:47 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, I already have a storage space (250 GB) the problem is that the actual operating space is only 60 GB ... so I'll have to ask for an upgrade tomorrow |
| 13:47 |
Krock |
weird that you cannot use the other 190 GiB then |
| 13:48 |
Krock |
well, 10 GiB for the OS (even if it may not need that much) |
| 13:48 |
IhrFussel |
Cause that's a separate "backup space" |
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| 14:15 |
IhrFussel |
I made now a script that posts the current free disk space in the chat every 10 minutes ... that way I can relax a bit again |
| 14:23 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: do "log rotation" =-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_rotation |
| 14:24 |
IhrFussel |
Log rotation won't help much when 98% of storage is used by map.sqlite |
| 14:25 |
IhrFussel |
At least it's not 100% map ... or else I wouldn't know what to do now to gain at least some more free space |
| 14:25 |
Fixer |
log rotate to that backup space (with archival) |
| 14:25 |
IhrFussel |
The backup space doesn't matter, I cannot run the server on it ... the map has to be on the normal storage which is limited to 60 GB |
| 14:26 |
IhrFussel |
Or are you saying I need to somehow link map.sqlite in the worlds dir to the DB on my external space? |
| 14:27 |
IhrFussel |
If that is possible that sounds extremely risky |
| 14:32 |
Fixer |
don't saying anything, but if you do, always do full backups ._. |
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Fixer |
not* |
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| 16:21 |
Peppy |
hi |
| 16:22 |
Peppy |
what syntax should I use to ask the bot to tell something a user when he is online ? |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
!help tell |
| 16:24 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
well |
| 16:24 |
Peppy |
!help tell |
| 16:24 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
/msg MemoServ SEND USERNAME MESSAGE |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
would be better |
| 16:24 |
Peppy |
thanks |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
! tell is public |
| 16:33 |
Peppy |
i'm pretty sad right now, I just saw a place with thousands of probably still working recent servers, under the rain waiting to be disasembled. |
| 16:33 |
Peppy |
the guy whos showed me says he can't hit for single users or small compagnies one by one. |
| 16:33 |
Peppy |
this word is going mad :( |
| 16:34 |
Fixer |
tons of people will buy that |
| 16:35 |
Fixer |
also, why dissassemble? |
| 16:36 |
Peppy |
palletized and wrapped as far as your eyes can see. |
| 16:36 |
Krock |
send me one |
| 16:36 |
Fixer |
is it in garbage bins? |
| 16:36 |
Peppy |
because the guy is paid for that |
| 16:36 |
Fixer |
it is ridiculous to see so much waste, those servers can run probably for another 10 years easily |
| 16:37 |
Peppy |
it's not a garbage bin, there wan't room enough in the storage |
| 16:37 |
Peppy |
the storage had even more inside |
| 16:37 |
Fixer |
will go into recycling? |
| 16:37 |
Peppy |
I saw rack towers waiting to be sold for steel price |
| 16:38 |
Peppy |
(empty racks) |
| 16:38 |
Peppy |
almost new, "nobody wants those, I get 40 every week" |
| 16:39 |
Fixer |
people want nonempty ones :} |
| 16:40 |
Peppy |
well it's just the next palette to fill the rack :( |
| 16:41 |
Peppy |
sound like recycling the leather on a rollsroyce |
| 16:41 |
Peppy |
I feel angry |
| 17:06 |
Fixer |
don't worry, in the next 100-200 years it will be ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL about recycling :} |
| 17:07 |
Peppy |
well, this looked quite like a "you're dead already" message |
| 17:07 |
Fixer |
unless they find cheap ways to mine under oceans, but i'm not holding my breath, it will not be cheap, and mining asteroids is just bs crazy |
| 17:08 |
Fixer |
we have africa that can be used as next china, but after that... probably time to wrap up "rising economy" in a black thing |
| 17:09 |
Fixer |
it is not rising anyway for most people |
| 17:09 |
Fixer |
in terms of wages |
| 17:09 |
Peppy |
I have no words to tell what I feel |
| 17:09 |
Peppy |
this is madness |
| 17:10 |
Fixer |
nah, better consume as much as possible, kids will deal with that later and have nice cute IRL punk storyline |
| 17:11 |
Peppy |
this is quite like each palette of stuff was tagged "f**ck you" |
| 17:20 |
Peppy |
end of off topic, i'll try to cool down, sorry... |
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| 17:27 |
Krock |
Fixer: limit population, rely on renewable energies, recycle non-regrowing materials and somehow obsolete plastic. What a wonderful world if this were so easy |
| 17:32 |
Fixer |
the only problem is Africa population, everything else does not need limit anymore, it goes down |
| 17:35 |
Fixer |
it will go down by itself, but I have no idea how they will live with such crazy amount of people |
| 17:38 |
Fixer |
it is good for their armies though, if they can afford them |
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| 18:12 |
Fixer |
s/patch/hack/ |
| 18:18 |
Krock |
Fixer: do you have an idea which mod includes signs_road? |
| 18:18 |
Fixer |
one sec |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
display_modpack |
| 18:21 |
Fixer |
Krock: can't find it, can you find an author of the mod in text somewher? |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
eh thanks. found it :D |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
I didn't know the author either |
| 18:42 |
bobr |
so apparently ive been hacked could u server owners check the connected names on your server with the name Bobr there base ip will corispond to a non british ip if u could please let me know |
| 18:59 |
Krock |
bobr: I think you'll have to contact the owner of each affected server individually |
| 19:56 |
IhrFussel |
"A X button is non-standard" did I understand that correctly and rubenwardy implies a button named "X" is not standard? Then I have to disagree cause EVERY major desktop OS uses the X as "close window" |
| 19:57 |
IhrFussel |
Maybe I just misunderstood that part though |
| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
where was this? |
| 19:58 |
IhrFussel |
'X' as button is especially useful when dealing with multiple languages cause chances are very high that anybody understands what X means |
| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
an [X] button *is* non-standard on a formspec, but otherwise you are quite correct. |
| 19:59 |
IhrFussel |
VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=338083#p338083 |
| 19:59 |
IhrFussel |
Why are formspecs something else compared to other windows displayed? I see them as pretty much the same except you cannot minize/move them |
| 20:00 |
IhrFussel |
minimize* |
| 20:01 |
VanessaE |
it's non-standard because hardly no one was designing formspecs with [X] buttons until Android/iOS ports of Minetest showed up, and suddenly no one can exit a formspec (no Esc key, natch) |
| 20:02 |
VanessaE |
where I include one, I use an image button to at least *try* to look like a close button, instead of a labeled button that looks simply lazy |
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| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
of course, tap outside the formspec works now to close it. |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
but not many people can remember that (and sometimes it doesn't work) |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
so 2, 3 years ago? non-standard for sure. Now? not entirely standard, but recommended. |
| 20:05 |
IhrFussel |
I would still say "close" is more difficult to understand for non-ENglish speakers than X |
| 20:06 |
IhrFussel |
It doesn't have to be just the letter 'X' it can also be an image with a bold cross ... it is essentially the same |
| 20:06 |
Krock |
you could also use colors or image buttons |
| 20:07 |
Krock |
there's even a mod which builds Windows window decorations using formspec elements |
| 20:11 |
IhrFussel |
I didn't know that you can tap outside a formspec to close it...I always press the 'back' button on my phone to close them cause many formspecs don't even have a close button (like UI AFAIK) |
| 20:16 |
rubenwardy |
X is nonstandard in formspecs, and should not be used |
| 20:16 |
rubenwardy |
If you want them, you should use formspec prepends instead |
| 20:16 |
rubenwardy |
So it's on every formspec |
| 20:17 |
rubenwardy |
Or you could modify the engine |
| 20:17 |
rubenwardy |
Pressing back is also nonstandard on android for how we use it |
| 20:17 |
rubenwardy |
It should be up or an X instead |
| 20:57 |
Fixer |
yayayay https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7986 |
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