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IhrFussel |
He doesn't learn https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=345872#p345872 |
| 12:45 |
IhrFussel |
Still claiming that clients can access any item they want...well yes they can IF your inventory mods are missing player action checks |
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jas_ |
hi IhrFussel |
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IhrFussel |
Hello jas_ |
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IhrFussel |
Does on_place() require returning an itemstack if I want to cancel it? |
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jas_ |
Shall place item and return the leftover itemstack." |
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jas_ |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L5886 |
| 13:31 |
jas_ |
so yes, it needs to return an itemstack |
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jas_ |
whether it actually places the item is up to you; by default it runs minetest.item_place, but not necessarily |
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IhrFussel |
Hm...cause I see code that only uses 'return' and it seems to work |
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jas_ |
hm, ok, well i am just guessing, based on the text there. |
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IhrFussel |
It's inside a register_craftitem() if that makes a difference |
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jas_ |
i don't think it makes a difference |
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jas_ |
i would try right now but am watching fifth wave and eating pizza |
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IhrFussel |
Well I see if pointed_thing.type ~= "node" then return end |
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jas_ |
(then ice cream, i have a plan.) |
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jas_ |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L5812 |
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jas_ |
tool/craftitem/node |
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IhrFussel |
Just 'return' seems to behave the same as 'return itemstack' |
| 13:35 |
jas_ |
oh, interesting |
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IhrFussel |
Cause nothing is lost when I try placing it in air for example |
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jas_ |
makes sense, i guess, per this wording: "shall return itemstack" |
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jas_ |
i'm also drinking a guiness |
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IhrFussel |
Maybe they mean 'if you want to handle the taking manually it needs to return an itemstack' |
| 13:37 |
IhrFussel |
Like 'itemstack:take_item() return itemstack' |
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jas_ |
i wonder what happens if you return true/false/nil -- i prolly tried before, don't recall now |
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jas_ |
i recently quit smoking, and am packing on the weight |
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rubenwardy: if you have a sec, can you change the contentdb owner for pixel perfection to tacotexmex? |
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benrob0329 |
o/ red-045 |
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red-045 |
\o benrob0329 |
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Fixer |
\\o |
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Fixer |
"In the Minecraft: PE application, all chunks are stored in Mojang’s fork of LevelDB (a ZLib compressed LevelDB database" |
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Fixer |
interesting.png |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks :) |
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twoelk |
o/ |
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Fixer |
\\o |
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tenplus1 |
hey twoelk o/ fixer \o |
| 17:52 |
tenplus1 |
what's new ? |
| 17:52 |
twoelk |
winter was back but left again :D |
| 17:52 |
Fixer |
.... |
| 17:52 |
tenplus1 |
snuck in there for a bit huh ? |
| 17:53 |
* twoelk |
seems a day late |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
I updated my Os to Kubuntu 19.04 (daily) running linux kernel 5.0 and Minetest 5.0 stable :) is niiiiiiiiice! |
| 17:54 |
twoelk |
stable? are you sure? |
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tenplus1 |
very much so |
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tenplus1 |
am even using open-source noveau for mynvidia gfx and it's pretty good |
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twoelk |
I seem to get random crashes but might be simply that the minimum requirements of minetest have gone up a wee bit |
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jas_ |
i think i'm gonna be sick |
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tenplus1 |
hi jas |
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* jas_ |
moans |
| 17:57 |
tenplus1 |
twoelk: I can run my desktop and minetest 5 and it only uses around 600mb total |
| 17:57 |
jas_ |
i ate so much. hi tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
what did you nom ? |
| 17:57 |
* twoelk |
had been sick last week |
| 17:58 |
jas_ |
pizza, and beer, and ice cream, and i just downed a bunch of milk. mmm, milk. |
| 17:58 |
jas_ |
oh and chicks and cheese dip. oh god what have i done |
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twoelk |
tried something heavier tenplus1 |
| 17:58 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, sounds like it's curdling in your tummy :P |
| 17:58 |
tenplus1 |
what did you run twoelk? |
| 17:59 |
twoelk |
beer+icecream+milk sounds like a bubbly connection to mix and shakewell before ... PURP |
| 17:59 |
tenplus1 |
if you added that to a fgood mod the player would quickly spew right after :P |
| 18:00 |
twoelk |
dreambuilder, bogart, mymillionsofflowers and such :D |
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tenplus1 |
hi Unarelith |
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Unarelith |
hi 10+1 o/ |
| 18:01 |
tenplus1 |
so far Xanadu (standalone) runs fine in 5.0, had to tweak horse so player doesnt float above it :D |
| 18:01 |
twoelk |
tried to study plant spawning, so flew around a lot |
| 18:02 |
tenplus1 |
I may tweak Farming Redo so that each crop has it's own rarety value |
| 18:03 |
tenplus1 |
if only there was a way to change decoration values in-game and regenerate the same area for testing |
| 18:04 |
twoelk |
might be interesting if you had different crops to provide similar resources but according to biome |
| 18:05 |
tenplus1 |
it sorta does, bamboo = (wood, paper), papyrus = (wood, paper, sugar), hemp = (wood, paper, string, oil) :P |
| 18:05 |
tenplus1 |
although it could use some tweaking... ideas welcome twoelk :P |
| 18:05 |
twoelk |
so barley in cold places, wheat in dry places and rice in warm and wet places all provide flour or along them lines |
| 18:06 |
tenplus1 |
yeah the granary bread can be made from all 3 :) but not as nutritious as wheat bread |
| 18:07 |
twoelk |
I would keep the same nutrition but differ the harvest yeald according to biome |
| 18:07 |
tenplus1 |
even the snow biome has firethorn bushels in Ethereal that can be made into a jelly when prepared |
| 18:09 |
twoelk |
yeah every biome should offer something, even though resources in some biomes would be rarer in generall - a desert simply is a desert |
| 18:10 |
tenplus1 |
cactus pulp made into juice, nasty but nutritious :D |
| 18:11 |
twoelk |
so have you extended your alcoholic effects to toxic effects yet? |
| 18:12 |
twoelk |
I wonder if distorting the view with a color overlay after eating some shrooms would work |
| 18:12 |
tenplus1 |
when you drink/eat 4x alcoholic drinks from wine mod it changes your hunger bar to green, makes you stagger for 60 seconds and prints a messag e:) players find it fun |
| 18:12 |
tenplus1 |
that would be a fun addition also :) |
| 18:13 |
tenplus1 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8494&hilit=xanadu&start=3525#p345876 |
| 18:14 |
twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13642&p=344600#p344600 |
| 18:14 |
tenplus1 |
5.0 lets you adjust fog levels, so going blind in a sense would work |
| 18:15 |
twoelk |
ooh moonlighting with consquences - cool |
| 18:15 |
tenplus1 |
heh, only used {alcohol=1} cause it's the only effect :) and easy to remember |
| 18:16 |
tenplus1 |
we really need player:set_velocity player:set_acceleration to be able to do most of thos eeffects |
| 18:16 |
tenplus1 |
but thankfully player knockback on playerplus mod will work fine now on 5.0 since the detach bug is fixed |
| 18:17 |
twoelk |
trying to jump a block or go up stairs could be translated to stagering back a few steps |
| 18:18 |
tenplus1 |
yeh, or slowing player down on purpose and lack of jumping ability :D |
| 18:18 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
| 18:19 |
benrob0329 |
Hello tenplus1 |
| 18:19 |
tenplus1 |
good news, the lucky block "Pint Sized Player" works a lot better in 5.0 :) midget sized players |
| 18:19 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob o/// |
| 18:20 |
tenplus1 |
and we can now change player collisionbox, so walking into 1x1 spaces will work :D yuay |
| 18:20 |
twoelk |
blockmens adventuretest had spiders that sort of immobilezed the player for some time - enough to let me starve often after beating spiders |
| 18:21 |
tenplus1 |
that's a good idea, have a specific spider in mobs redo poison the player and if POVA or player_monoids active immobalize them |
| 18:21 |
twoelk |
hm, so letting the player crawl on all fours should be possible now as effect :o |
| 18:21 |
tenplus1 |
yeh :) just need a model for that... would be handy for flying/swimming |
| 18:27 |
tenplus1 |
the player model could do with some additional effects :D |
| 18:27 |
tenplus1 |
animations |
| 18:29 |
twoelk |
I was quite surprised how popular the avatar dance moves became in WoW |
| 18:29 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe, give it time and someone will do a player dance contest |
| 18:30 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEz8dlR9H3I |
| 18:30 |
twoelk |
lol, beenthere, donethat, didntgettheprize |
| 18:34 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 18:34 |
twoelk |
someone did let sam dance in a minecart in mt once - just can't find the link |
| 18:36 |
tenplus1 |
lol, never seen that one :D |
| 18:43 |
tenplus1 |
all the ideas for 5.1 :P heh |
| 18:48 |
* tenplus1 |
wonders if the mapgen layers are in 5.0 as yet ?!"?! |
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tenplus1 |
hi ssieb |
| 18:55 |
ssieb |
hi |
| 18:55 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 18:56 |
twoelk |
hrmpf, crashed bogart again |
| 18:56 |
tenplus1 |
bogart ? |
| 18:57 |
twoelk |
the mt-game |
| 18:57 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, dont think I've tried that one... what crashed (mod) ? |
| 18:57 |
twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=21712 |
| 18:58 |
twoelk |
seems I lack memory :P |
| 18:58 |
tenplus1 |
oom error ? |
| 18:58 |
twoelk |
sort of |
| 18:58 |
tenplus1 |
how much memory you got ? |
| 18:59 |
twoelk |
but there are quite a few games I still want to test with mt5 |
| 18:59 |
twoelk |
4gb ram or thereabouts |
| 19:00 |
tenplus1 |
that's more than enough I would imagine |
| 19:00 |
twoelk |
but win32 |
| 19:00 |
tenplus1 |
win 7 ? |
| 19:00 |
twoelk |
no win 10 on 32bitsystem |
| 19:00 |
tenplus1 |
ahhh, gotcha... |
| 19:01 |
tenplus1 |
many things you can disable in w10 to save ram that may help |
| 19:02 |
twoelk |
office machine, so I rather not change much - maybe minetest doesn't like runing from a portable hdd as much anymore |
| 19:03 |
tenplus1 |
shouldnt make a difference, just slower load times |
| 19:03 |
twoelk |
running from usb stick worked better in the past iirc |
| 19:05 |
tenplus1 |
am wondering if I should keep 0.4.17 versions of my mods or switch them over to 5.0 ?!?! |
| 19:08 |
twoelk |
definitly keep some copies in a safe place |
| 19:08 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, I do want to implement some newer features into them though, and of course the new biomes into Ethereal |
| 19:09 |
twoelk |
might also be usefull for debuging |
| 19:10 |
tenplus1 |
I really like notabug.org :P |
| 19:10 |
* twoelk |
prepares to drive home |
| 19:10 |
tenplus1 |
o/ safe journey |
| 19:12 |
twoelk |
snow's all gone so should be easier than yesterday |
| 19:12 |
tenplus1 |
*shiver* sounds cold |
| 19:19 |
tenplus1 |
coffee time, laters all o/ |
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twoelk |
bye |
| 19:29 |
twoelk |
o/ |
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| 19:50 |
kaeza |
whoami |
| 19:50 |
kaeza |
k |
| 19:50 |
kaeza |
Client keeps disconnecting for reasons. |
| 19:51 |
* kaeza |
considers installing some IRC client under Termux. |
| 19:52 |
kaeza |
Any recommendations? |
| 20:01 |
luk3yx |
If you have a physical keyboard, WeeChat. |
| 20:02 |
benrob0329 |
If you don't, there are other front ends for it |
| 20:03 |
kaeza |
I think I've seen one in F-Droid. |
| 20:03 |
kaeza |
WeeChat frontend I mean. |
| 20:04 |
kaeza |
https://f-droid.org/app/com.ubergeek42.WeechatAndroid |
| 20:05 |
kaeza |
USB keyboard seems to be broken :( |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
Quassel is objectively the best |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
:D |
| 20:13 |
luk3yx |
You could install WeeChat (or probably Quassel) onto a server and set the relay module up, then connect WeeChat Android to that. |
| 20:14 |
luk3yx |
You could install WeeChat (or probably Quassel) onto a server and set the relay module up, then connect WeeChat Android to that. |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
the Quasseldroid app is much better now |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
it's probably worth trying Quassel :) the desktop client is still nice too |
| 20:21 |
rubenwardy |
I'm a patron of the Quasseldroid dev |
| 20:21 |
rubenwardy |
she's awesome |
| 20:21 |
rubenwardy |
#quasseldroid |
| 20:21 |
rubenwardy |
Quassel is modern IRC |
| 20:22 |
rubenwardy |
your messages are stored on a server - called a quassel-core |
| 20:22 |
rubenwardy |
then clients request messages from the server |
| 20:22 |
rubenwardy |
it means that all clients have consistent unlimited scrollback |
| 20:22 |
rubenwardy |
unlike with ZNC |
| 20:23 |
rubenwardy |
fun fact: the people who make IrcCloud used to Quassel contributors |
| 20:23 |
rubenwardy |
so IrcCloud is basically a proprietary Quassel :) |
| 20:28 |
sofar |
quassel is awesome |
| 20:28 |
sofar |
and, it's in clearlinux too :) |
| 20:28 |
rubenwardy |
what is clearlinux |
| 20:28 |
rubenwardy |
someone keeps mentioning |
| 20:28 |
rubenwardy |
it |
| 20:28 |
VanessaE |
bah. znc + hexchat or gtfo :) |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
ZNC really sucks with multiple clients |
| 20:29 |
sofar |
quassel does a lot better with backlog |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
^ |
| 20:29 |
sofar |
plus mobile phone client that works |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
Quasseldroid is the only IRC Android client that I like |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
except IRCCloud, but: proprietary |
| 20:31 |
IcyDiamond |
Pfft peasants, weechat ftw :) |
| 20:31 |
kaeza |
Hmm, no Quassel core under Termux :/ |
| 20:32 |
kaeza |
The WeeChat version there also send to be quite old (?) |
| 20:32 |
kaeza |
Seems* |
| 20:33 |
kaeza |
Bah, staying with this POC it is. |
| 20:40 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy: Clear Linux is a Linux distribution developed by Intel, it drops support for old hardware to build better-performing packages |
| 20:40 |
Calinou |
the difference is small, but it's there |
| 20:40 |
Calinou |
(Phoronix benchmarks it regularly) |
| 20:42 |
sofar |
Calinou: he knows :) |
| 20:42 |
sofar |
the sarcasm is currently being mopped up |
| 20:43 |
rubenwardy |
it's like that fortnite thing, never quite got it |
| 20:43 |
rubenwardy |
is it twice a week or every two weeks? |
| 20:43 |
rubenwardy |
no one knows |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
heh |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
sorry, I don't always understand sarcasm over text |
| 20:44 |
sofar |
yeah, right |
| 20:51 |
rubenwardy |
TIL there's an XKCD IRC channel |
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jas_ |
Longtime ago |
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* rubenwardy |
braces himself for bad food regulation, Scottish independence, the reunification of Ireland, privatisation of the NHS, "religious freedom", removal of anti-discrimination laws, more austerity |
| 22:01 |
sofar |
and global warming |
| 22:01 |
Fixer |
you will like that warming |
| 22:01 |
Fixer |
don't youuuu |
| 22:02 |
sofar |
honestly I loved having the snow around |
| 22:02 |
sofar |
but global warming creates extreme weather so there is a larger chance of heavy snowfall |
| 22:03 |
sofar |
but yeah, summer is going to suck if we're stuck in forest fire smoke for 2+ months each year and summer temperatures go from unbearable to thebeariscoockedable |
| 22:10 |
* xerox123 |
high fives rubenwardy |
| 22:19 |
Fixer |
my summers sucked before it went mainstream |
| 22:19 |
Fixer |
i will miss snow :( |
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Fixer |
it was already too little of it |
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paramat |
Emerald2 "what would be really helpful is to have a basic lua mapgen" see https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19836 |
| 23:13 |
* red-045 |
checks time till brexit |
| 23:14 |
Emerald2 |
Hey paramat! |
| 23:16 |
IhrFussel |
Brexit might not even happen anymore, but who knows if they think they can handle a no-deal one |
| 23:25 |
Emerald2 |
Thanks paramat. Funny, sofar linked me to that code yesterday. :) |
