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	| 00:17 | paramat | merging #8418 | 
        
	| 00:17 | ShadowBot | https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8418 -- Require 'waving = 3' in nodedefs to enable liquid waving shader by paramat | 
        
	| 00:17 | paramat | ugh | 
        
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	| 01:06 | IcyDiamond | I wish rivers actually decreased in altitude instead of carving out valleys | 
        
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	| 01:40 | paramat | valleys mapgen or V7 mapgen? | 
        
	| 01:42 | paramat | mgvalleys rivers do change altitude, and mgv7 rivers can't decrease altitude because they'd be below sea level | 
        
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	| 06:38 | ANAND | Is it possible to throw a runtime error from within a mod? | 
        
	| 06:39 | ANAND | Not the scary red text type of error, but the type that shuts down the server. | 
        
	| 06:40 | ANAND | I know it's possible by using asserts, but is it possible without asserts? | 
        
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	| 09:32 | IcyDiamond | how do i make an entity persist its custom properties | 
        
	| 09:32 | IcyDiamond | i have a custom visual = "item" entity | 
        
	| 09:32 | IcyDiamond | its "texture" gets reset when i reload the world | 
        
	| 09:36 | IcyDiamond | https://i.lunasqu.ee/2019-03-27_11-34-59.mp4 | 
        
	| 10:15 | Amaz | IcyDiamond: I might be on completely the wrong track, but do you need to reset the textures in the on_activate function? | 
        
	| 10:15 | Amaz | I seem to remember having to do that when I was doing something with entities... | 
        
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	| 12:24 | Megaf | Hi all, braces yourselves Megaf will be returning | 
        
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	| 12:45 | IcyDiamond | Amaz: do I need to write info into metadata somehow? | 
        
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	| 14:52 | behalebabo | ANAND: if you're still on it, you can raise errors with: error("some description or date here") | 
        
	| 14:52 | behalebabo | s/date/data/ | 
        
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	| 15:21 | ANAND | behalebabo: Thanks. For some reason, I was thinking that error() only spawns the scary red text saying ERROR[MAIN]. | 
        
	| 15:22 | ANAND | Just tested it out, and works like a charm. :) | 
        
	| 15:22 | ANAND | Not sure what made me think that way in the first place, lol | 
        
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	| 16:43 | tenplus1 | hi folks :) | 
        
	| 16:45 | benrob0329 | Hi ten | 
        
	| 16:45 | tenplus1 | hey benrob :) how's you ? | 
        
	| 16:46 | benrob0329 | Good, making my way through some C++ tutorials as of late | 
        
	| 16:46 | tenplus1 | kewl, having fun ? | 
        
	| 16:46 | benrob0329 | Yeah, and making descend headway | 
        
	| 16:47 | tenplus1 | glad to hear :) learning C is fun | 
        
	| 16:47 | tenplus1 | I think something is wrong with youtube lately | 
        
	| 16:48 | benrob0329 | Something is always wrong with YouTube :P | 
        
	| 16:49 | tenplus1 | hah yeah...  videos are stuttering when they start to play sometimes, also search is broken for time order | 
        
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	| 16:55 | tenplus1 | hi gary | 
        
	| 16:55 | garywhite | hey ten | 
        
	| 16:56 | tenplus1 | everytime I say that I imagine doing it in a spongebob voice :P | 
        
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	| 16:56 | tenplus1 | hi Darcidride :P | 
        
	| 17:05 | tenplus1 | nice addition with the waving=3 for water :D | 
        
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	| 17:08 | tenplus1 | o/ xenon | 
        
	| 17:09 | _Xenon | Hi tenplus1! :) | 
        
	| 17:16 | tenplus1 | did we ever find the issue with constant meta writing ? | 
        
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	| 17:27 | Fixer | that PR picked up by Krock i think | 
        
	| 17:30 | tenplus1 | kewl, also hi :) | 
        
	| 17:30 | tenplus1 | so far no real issues with running 5.0 on server. I dont feel any additional lag | 
        
	| 17:38 | tenplus1 | am still wondering about the tundra biome though | 
        
	| 17:41 | calcul0n | pandorabox is very laggy since 5.0, it seems to be related to that | 
        
	| 17:41 | tenplus1 | hi calcul0n, does it have any meta intensive mods running ? | 
        
	| 17:43 | calcul0n | hi, and i guess yes it has tons of big mods | 
        
	| 17:43 | calcul0n | like technic, mesecons, advtrains, spaceships | 
        
	| 17:44 | tenplus1 | ouch, lotta updates going on there | 
        
	| 17:45 | calcul0n | yep | 
        
	| 17:48 | tenplus1 | gotta find a way to lessen the meta writes to every piece of mesecon/technic hardware and cable, linking devices directly like basic_machines does | 
        
	| 17:49 | tenplus1 | if pathfind would work through specific node lists instead of just air, we could check for connected nodes and link directly instead of working through every cabole | 
        
	| 17:49 | tenplus1 | *cable | 
        
	| 17:51 | CWz | So i need to know, is article 13 dangerous for minetest? | 
        
	| 17:51 | tenplus1 | hi CWz, not unless we post news, video links or memes | 
        
	| 17:52 | CWz | but what if we aren't from the EU | 
        
	| 17:52 | tenplus1 | they wanna regulate reposts and who does them by making them pay | 
        
	| 17:52 | tenplus1 | if you arent from EU then it's fine, wont matter | 
        
	| 17:52 | CWz | sounds like badly written revenge story | 
        
	| 17:52 | tenplus1 | but this nonsense will make more people use VPN's to connect | 
        
	| 17:53 | tenplus1 | hell, even Hollywood backed out and wanted them to drop articles 11+13 cause they'd lose out on a lot of cash | 
        
	| 17:53 | CWz | i hope the EU plan fails | 
        
	| 17:53 | tenplus1 | they're up to something and it's gonna mess up the internet and their credibility both | 
        
	| 17:53 | CWz | Dark days ahead | 
        
	| 17:55 | tenplus1 | it's funny, people are hand-drawing memes so they dont have to ask for original authors permission... hah | 
        
	| 17:55 | CWz | i think EU want more moneys | 
        
	| 17:57 | tenplus1 | moneys and control over something they shouldnt have control over | 
        
	| 17:57 | Fixer | Caataclysm: Dark Days Ahead 0.D have been released | 
        
	| 17:58 | tenplus1 | lol | 
        
	| 18:01 | tenplus1 | in it's current form, the EU is in shambles... k, I stop talking or I'll get booted | 
        
	| 18:02 | * Fixer | boots tenplus1 into sofar's linux | 
        
	| 18:02 | tenplus1 | ClearLinux ? | 
        
	| 18:05 | sofar | yay! | 
        
	| 18:05 | tenplus1 | o/ sofar :) | 
        
	| 18:06 | tenplus1 | would clear linux run mt 5.0 well enough to null out the meta lag ? | 
        
	| 18:06 | sofar | meta lag? | 
        
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	| 18:06 | sofar | idk I'd have to measure | 
        
	| 18:06 | tenplus1 | technic/mesecon mods causing lag/slowdown in 5.0 servers | 
        
	| 18:07 | IhrFussel | Hello guys... I just received a spam mail that contains my FULL name ... this is scary | 
        
	| 18:07 | tenplus1 | I know clear runs smoother/faster than most distros... may help being an official server Os | 
        
	| 18:07 | tenplus1 | hi fussel | 
        
	| 18:07 | sofar | IhrFussel: mt related or just random? | 
        
	| 18:07 | IhrFussel | Nothing about MT sorry should've said that as [off] :P | 
        
	| 18:16 | * tenplus1 | checks email just-in-case | 
        
	| 18:16 | tenplus1 | yup, he who shall not be named... 5 of them... dammit | 
        
	| 18:18 | Amaz | [off | 
        
	| 18:19 | tenplus1 | o/ amaz | 
        
	| 18:19 | Amaz | Hi ten | 
        
	| 18:19 | Amaz | :) | 
        
	| 18:24 | benrob0329 | Somehow | 
        
	| 18:25 | tenplus1 | wow pwned 11 times... that aint right | 
        
	| 18:26 | rubenwardy | make sure to sign up for email updates | 
        
	| 18:27 | rubenwardy | the #1 way that an account is breached is not through brute force or hacking, it's by bad security practices on other sites | 
        
	| 18:27 | ShadowBot | https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome | 
        
	| 18:27 | rubenwardy | which is why people say that you should use different passwords on each site | 
        
	| 18:27 | rubenwardy | and a password manager | 
        
	| 18:28 | Calinou | this, along with 2FA when possible ^ | 
        
	| 18:29 | * benrob0329 | needs to make a password notebook and custom passwords for everything | 
        
	| 18:29 | sofar | I follow Bruce | 
        
	| 18:29 | * tenplus1 | uses password hashed from web address :D | 
        
	| 18:29 | sofar | Schneier all the things!!! | 
        
	| 18:30 | benrob0329 | See, if you use paper you can easily burn all your logins :P | 
        
	| 18:31 | tenplus1 | who would you guys say does the best/safest email web accounts ? | 
        
	| 18:32 | Amaz | benrob0329: Nah, use a wax tablet & stylus :P | 
        
	| 18:32 | benrob0329 | tenplus1: mail in a box :P | 
        
	| 18:32 | tenplus1 | lol | 
        
	| 18:32 | Calinou | I use the email from my Gandi domain name | 
        
	| 18:32 | Calinou | if you have a domain name, it doesn't cost you any more money | 
        
	| 18:32 | tenplus1 | tried protonmail, was a pain to sign in | 
        
	| 18:33 | tenplus1 | and yahoo/google dont inspire trust | 
        
	| 18:33 | benrob0329 | Calinou: is gandi a good Domain provider? | 
        
	| 18:34 | Calinou | sure, albeit a bit expensive | 
        
	| 18:34 | tenplus1 | ah paid account | 
        
	| 18:35 | tenplus1 | fastmail.co.uk was really good at one point, then they removed the free accounts :D | 
        
	| 18:36 | calcul0n | i had no problem with protonmail | 
        
	| 18:36 | tenplus1 | tried signing in and on the odd occasion wouldnt accept my password, even though it was correct | 
        
	| 18:37 | tenplus1 | feels flakey to me | 
        
	| 18:37 | calcul0n | hmm | 
        
	| 18:40 | rubenwardy | I use fastmail with a custom domain | 
        
	| 18:41 | tenplus1 | that was my best email :) worked really well | 
        
	| 18:44 | tenplus1 | btw, quite a few players are happy with 5.0 android :) say it's much better now | 
        
	| 18:45 | Fixer | nice | 
        
	| 18:46 | tenplus1 | yeah, I like seeing happy players :)  hopefully 5.01 will bring a smile as well | 
        
	| 18:48 | tenplus1 | brb | 
        
	| 18:54 | IhrFussel | btw #8420 was merged/closed without it being added/referenced in the 5.0.1 backport issue... I hope it won't be missing | 
        
	| 18:54 | ShadowBot | https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8420 -- Prevent multi-line chat messages server-side by rubenwardy | 
        
	| 18:54 | rubenwardy | IhrFussel: it won't | 
        
	| 18:55 | rubenwardy | commits are backported in the next backporting session | 
        
	| 18:55 | IhrFussel | How do you make sure that you don't miss an already merged commit? Taking notes somewhere? | 
        
	| 18:57 | tenplus1 | post-it note on the side of someone's screen :D | 
        
	| 18:57 | rubenwardy | looking at the commit log | 
        
	| 18:58 | rubenwardy | worth commenting it anyway | 
        
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	| 19:02 | tenplus1 | hi Gael-de-Sailly | 
        
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	| 19:17 | tenplus1 | laters o/ | 
        
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	| 19:23 | kaeza | !tell benrob0329 https://abstrusegoose.com/249 | 
        
	| 19:23 | MinetestBot | kaeza: yeah, yeah | 
        
	| 19:26 | kaeza | </3 MinetestBot | 
        
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	| 19:44 | Megaf | Hi all | 
        
	| 19:46 | sofar | Megaf: heya | 
        
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	| 20:20 | IcyDiamond | Megaf: I recommend against it | 
        
	| 20:21 | IcyDiamond | That looks like the generic shitty Chinese soldering iron, I had it, it's crappy | 
        
	| 20:21 | sofar | wenger | 
        
	| 20:22 | sofar | sorry weller | 
        
	| 20:22 | sofar | wes51 if you can affoard it :) | 
        
	| 20:23 | Megaf | IcyDiamond, just bought it :) Its a 60 watts soldering iron... I can replace the tip for something better later, and is adjustable, I dont need precision, is just for dirty quick jobs, like replacing a broken USB conector and stuff like that | 
        
	| 20:23 | Megaf | and I get a multimeter with that, that I will use mostly for continuity testing... | 
        
	| 20:24 | sofar | 60$ for the kit isn't bad, it's very cheap actually | 
        
	| 20:24 | IcyDiamond | For me that soldering iron wasn't any good for simple jobs either | 
        
	| 20:24 | IcyDiamond | XD | 
        
	| 20:24 | sofar | great for those things you need once every 3 years | 
        
	| 20:25 | IcyDiamond | Also the power cable isn't fastened so you could in theory pull it out and shock yourself | 
        
	| 20:26 | IcyDiamond | :D | 
        
	| 20:26 | Calinou | I've never used a soldering iron here | 
        
	| 20:27 | IcyDiamond | I bought some robust German made soldering iron, I don't remember the specifics but it's great | 
        
	| 20:27 | Megaf | sofar, precisely, will use one for the first time in the last 5 years... | 
        
	| 20:28 | Megaf | 60 USD? | 
        
	| 20:28 | IcyDiamond | If I remember correctly it was 40 watts | 
        
	| 20:28 | Megaf | I paid 25,53 Euro | 
        
	| 20:28 | Megaf | maybe I pasted the wrong item | 
        
	| 20:28 | Megaf | hold on | 
        
	| 20:29 | Megaf | That's the kit https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KM6T2LQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 | 
        
	| 20:29 | Megaf | same item... | 
        
	| 20:30 | Megaf | I really think it's a great kit https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81tAp-7iE3L._SL1500_.jpg | 
        
	| 20:30 | Megaf | for the money | 
        
	| 20:52 | Megaf | IcyDiamond, one day I want to buy something like this https://www.expondo.ie/stamos-soldering-soldering-station-2-displays-730-watt-basic-10021028?gclid=CjwKCAjwvuzkBRAhEiwA9E3FUsCB4jX8hKRxsQ_vAkQ7MzmOhq8Bwa_GQwPq7OuhU3ZTZr5QXqev9BoCBbIQAvD_BwE | 
        
	| 20:52 | IcyDiamond | Yeah me too | 
        
	| 20:52 | Megaf | with a hot air gun | 
        
	| 20:52 | Megaf | to do some BGA soldering | 
        
	| 20:57 | Megaf | gotta go, cya | 
        
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	| 21:22 | Sokomine | sofar: a friend of mine who knows way more about electronics and soldering also recommended a weller station to me. i bought a used one | 
        
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	| 21:33 | IcyDiamond | I use a local registrar they don't reveal anything about domain owner | 
        
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	| 22:17 | BillyS | Who runs the liberty land server? | 
        
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	| 23:13 | Fixer | there is forum topic about that server, try asking there, what happened? | 
        
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