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| 00:01 |
IhrFussel |
Not even WorldEdit works |
| 00:01 |
IhrFussel |
When this happens |
| 00:01 |
IhrFussel |
You send the command but nothing happens |
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Peppy |
IhrFussel, I noticed that too, thanks to a mod, getting rid of pseudos like guest345 helped a lot |
| 00:07 |
Peppy |
appears that some crappy clients ask for insane viewing range |
| 00:07 |
Peppy |
may be part of the explanation |
| 00:08 |
paramat |
IhrFussel could it be a particular player instead of a particular forked app? |
| 00:08 |
IhrFussel |
No it happens with lots of players |
| 00:08 |
IhrFussel |
But mainly ones with randomly generated names |
| 00:09 |
IhrFussel |
And it only happens when there are lots of them online |
| 00:09 |
IhrFussel |
It feels like each additional client of that type adds more 'map lag' |
| 00:09 |
IhrFussel |
Until the map just gives up completely |
| 00:10 |
IhrFussel |
Whenever this happens the server also refuses ANY inventory actions |
| 00:10 |
paramat |
hm i wonder how clients can do this ... |
| 00:10 |
IhrFussel |
I set my block_send_distance to 8 ... can clients somehow ignore this? |
| 00:11 |
paramat |
obviously there should be serverside protection against this happening |
| 00:11 |
paramat |
clients can't override that, it's set serverside |
| 00:11 |
paramat |
as is 'generate distance' |
| 00:12 |
IhrFussel |
I'm guessing this is also connected to the fact that most mobile app users first float mid air when joining...like their app takes a bit to load the actual map |
| 00:12 |
paramat |
any chance you could ask these players which app they use? |
| 00:12 |
IhrFussel |
They also often complain about seeing only gray |
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| 00:13 |
Peppy |
IhrFussel, I found out the culprit for this darkscreen |
| 00:13 |
IhrFussel |
This floating can also happen during gameplay for them...like when they suddenly tp to a previously unloaded area |
| 00:14 |
Peppy |
the players did complain but were inside a node, I would TP them, then the player would go back staight back into the wall |
| 00:14 |
Peppy |
(without player interaction ) |
| 00:15 |
Peppy |
it appeared that those players were running some version of Multicraft |
| 00:15 |
IhrFussel |
Yes! I witnessed that too |
| 00:15 |
Peppy |
I can't tell wich version though |
| 00:15 |
IhrFussel |
Players said they were stuck somewhere and I tp them...and a few secs later they suddenly tp back into the corner |
| 00:16 |
IhrFussel |
They also cannot look around |
| 00:16 |
IhrFussel |
(have playeranim on my server) |
| 00:16 |
IhrFussel |
Their heads stay either upwards or downwards |
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| 00:19 |
IhrFussel |
Whatever those clients do they somehow are able to prevent the server from sending mapblocks to other players... this must be some sort of loop |
| 00:19 |
IhrFussel |
I also watched network traffic when it happens but it's normal |
| 00:20 |
IhrFussel |
Server load also doesn't go up |
| 00:20 |
paramat |
the well know 'multicraft'? it seems there are several 'multicraft' forked apps =/ |
| 00:21 |
IhrFussel |
There are so many 3rd-party apps that it will be impossible to identify the cause ... I just fear that the same apps will also hang 5.X servers when they upgrade some day |
| 00:21 |
Peppy |
I guess this wasn't "standard" Multicraft |
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IhrFussel |
And blocking users with such names doesn't necessarily fix this... cause some actually get that they can change the name the app gives them |
| 00:22 |
IhrFussel |
And then they play on a borked version with a 'legal' name |
| 00:24 |
Peppy |
well, blocking those crappy names made a big difference for us |
| 00:25 |
Peppy |
this + "strict_protocol_version_checking = true" |
| 00:25 |
IhrFussel |
Just happened again... and exactly what I just said 'wimbish' was the source |
| 00:29 |
IhrFussel |
Network is really not the problem... was 3.8 MB/s during the map stalling and 3.7 MB/s after |
| 00:31 |
IhrFussel |
But 1 app user alone isn't capable of this... it only happens when my server is full of people |
| 00:31 |
IhrFussel |
Like 25+ |
| 00:32 |
IhrFussel |
Then chances are high that most of them are app users |
| 00:33 |
IhrFussel |
It also happened (rarely) on 0.4.17 CTF |
| 00:44 |
IhrFussel |
It happens every few minutes on my server right now |
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| 03:51 |
DI3HARD139 |
!up sv2.gn.krynet.pw |
| 03:51 |
MinetestBot |
sv2.gn.krynet.pw:30000 seems to be down |
| 03:51 |
DI3HARD139 |
grr |
| 03:52 |
DI3HARD139 |
oh wait. duh... |
| 03:56 |
DI3HARD139 |
!up mt.krynet.pw |
| 03:56 |
MinetestBot |
mt.krynet.pw:30000 seems to be down |
| 03:57 |
Emerald2 |
Which server is that? |
| 03:58 |
DI3HARD139 |
Just a dummy. Trying to figure out why only select IPs can connect to my server no problem while other cant ping and or join worlds. |
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DI3HARD139 |
!up mt.krynet.pw |
| 05:07 |
MinetestBot |
mt.krynet.pw:30000 is up (88ms) |
| 05:07 |
DI3HARD139 |
I am soooo freaking mad rn. All that for nothing....... |
| 05:10 |
sofar |
lol |
| 05:10 |
sofar |
figure it out then? |
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DI3HARD139 |
Yeah. Apparently we were working with 3 firewalls. Not just 2. |
| 05:30 |
DI3HARD139 |
Said 3rd was filtering most UDP traffic.... |
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tumeninodes |
rubenwardy, I just updated my Default LS tp on CDB, it awaits approval kind sir. Took me a few times to remember I had to update the master on the webpage :P |
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tumeninodes |
omg kaeza is back??! Hi kaeza |
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BuckarooBanzai |
hi al |
| 20:10 |
BuckarooBanzai |
*all |
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kaeza |
!tell tumeninodes Heya! How's it going? |
| 22:40 |
MinetestBot |
kaeza: yeah, sure, whatever |
| 22:40 |
kaeza |
Greetings. |
| 23:20 |
VanessaE |
Well, I'm losing my home. have to move. If anyone can help me, https://www.gofundme.com/f/5pqdb-help-me-move |
| 23:54 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: that sucks. :( |
| 23:54 |
kaeza |
Wish I could be able to help in some way, but resources are scarce over here. |
