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IhrFussel |
minetest.get_node() doesn't return the whole node def? You have to use minetest.registered_nodes[node.name] to get it? |
| 10:16 |
IhrFussel |
Looks like it |
| 10:16 |
IhrFussel |
I tried local def = minetest.get_node(pos) if def.walkable == false then blah end but it returned false even for nodes that are CLEARLY walkable |
| 10:18 |
IhrFussel |
Sorry the other way around |
| 10:20 |
IhrFussel |
The condition skipped even 'walkable = false' nodes |
| 10:33 |
ANAND |
IhrFussel: Yes, get_node only returns {name = "mod_name:node_name", param1, param2} |
| 10:34 |
IhrFussel |
Would it be a lot faster if I copied the whole nodes table to a local one? Cause I have to look up nodes lots of times in that mod |
| 10:51 |
IhrFussel |
I mean my server has well over 3,000 nodes defined... I guess it's rather slow to lookup a global table with 3,000+ entries each second |
| 10:52 |
IhrFussel |
Although I don't look through the table each time... I only fetch one entry by its name... maybe it's not that slow after all |
| 10:53 |
IhrFussel |
I don't loop through the table* |
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| 11:55 |
IhrFussel |
!tell tenplus1 Is there a reason why you don't localize the minetest.registered_nodes global table in mobs redo? #lua told me that it will speed up the table lookups a little (not sure by how much) |
| 11:55 |
MinetestBot |
IhrFussel: yeah, yeah |
| 11:57 |
IhrFussel |
I mean he uses the global table 22 times in his api.lua and I guess he could speed up the mod a bit by replacing those with local references |
| 12:49 |
rubenwardy |
IhrFussel: get_node returns the node, not the node def. register_node is badly named |
| 12:49 |
rubenwardy |
~book nodes |
| 12:50 |
rubenwardy |
!book basic op |
| 12:50 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Basic Map Operations - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book//en/map/environment.html |
| 12:50 |
IhrFussel |
For performance reasons? |
| 12:50 |
rubenwardy |
yes, and also because it doesn't make sense to return unrelated things |
| 12:52 |
rubenwardy |
it's kinda like how you don't do ItemStack().inventory_image |
| 12:52 |
rubenwardy |
you do ItemStack():get_definition().inventory_image |
| 12:52 |
rubenwardy |
although stacks and items are at least named differently |
| 12:55 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest should make a distinction between |
| 12:55 |
rubenwardy |
Node -> content_id (node name), param1, param2} only |
| 12:55 |
rubenwardy |
NodeDef -> the full table, looked up by the content ID / name |
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| 13:01 |
IhrFussel |
But there is no get_definition() for nodes right? |
| 13:01 |
IhrFussel |
Not sure if that would be helpful |
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| 13:02 |
rubenwardy |
there isn't because node is a table not an object |
| 13:02 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest doesn't implement that many objects |
| 13:08 |
* VanessaE |
looks around for tenplus1 |
| 13:15 |
VanessaE |
there, contentdb entry updated for homdecor |
| 13:16 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: you still need to fix the "edit" page layout for when there's lots of "provides", depends, etc. |
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rubenwardy |
There's an issue for that |
| 13:30 |
rubenwardy |
I'm currently in the middle of writing my dissertation, so don't have that much time |
| 13:38 |
xerox123 |
good luck |
| 13:39 |
xerox123 |
not sure if thats something you say good luck for |
| 13:39 |
xerox123 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 13:45 |
VanessaE |
I hope it goes well. |
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Krock |
o/ kaeza re-entered the game |
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MinetestBot |
tenplus1: Apr-21 11:55 UTC <IhrFussel> Is there a reason why you don't localize the minetest.registered_nodes global table in mobs redo? #lua told me that it will speed up the table lookups a little (not sure by how much) |
| 14:10 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 14:10 |
tenplus1 |
hey Krock :P |
| 14:11 |
_Xenon |
Hi ten |
| 14:12 |
tenplus1 |
hey xenon, how's you ? |
| 14:12 |
_Xenon |
Good good, what about you? |
| 14:12 |
tenplus1 |
just home from work :) chilling with coffee now :D |
| 14:13 |
_Xenon |
Heh :) |
| 14:13 |
tenplus1 |
checking out Vanessa's latest Homedecor pull :) |
| 14:14 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: be sure you sync now |
| 14:14 |
VanessaE |
I pushed a small fix this morning |
| 14:14 |
tenplus1 |
hi Vanessa, am trying to figure out how to do just that in notabug :D |
| 14:14 |
tenplus1 |
I updated wardrobe 10 mins ago, will redo it when I sync... if I figure it out :D |
| 14:15 |
tenplus1 |
git confuses me sometimes |
| 14:15 |
VanessaE |
shoudl be: git pull https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack.git master |
| 14:15 |
tenplus1 |
lemmie try |
| 14:17 |
VanessaE |
I toldya you shoulda just gone to gitlab, but noooooOOOOOOOooooo you just HAD to buck the trend and stand out :D |
| 14:17 |
tenplus1 |
conflicts... pfft... will delete everything and download yours fresh |
| 14:17 |
tenplus1 |
gitlab is crap, sorry... the interface annoys the hell outta me :) |
| 14:17 |
VanessaE |
yeah, that'll be easier |
| 14:17 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 14:18 |
VanessaE |
I only had to mess with depends.txt in the wardrobe mod |
| 14:18 |
VanessaE |
(point to homedecor_common instead of homedecor) |
| 14:18 |
VanessaE |
(that's the "api" mod I mentioned before) |
| 14:19 |
* tenplus1 |
tango's with turtle :P |
| 14:20 |
VanessaE |
CWz: what, do I need to resurrect that one, too? :P |
| 14:20 |
VanessaE |
(wrong channel() |
| 14:21 |
CWz |
Ello tenplus1 |
| 14:22 |
tenplus1 |
o// |
| 14:22 |
tenplus1 |
hi CWz |
| 14:24 |
tenplus1 |
updated my fork on notabug, added wardrobe changes :) |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE |
shall I sync? |
| 14:26 |
tenplus1 |
removed un-needed functions and uses homedecor api instead, yeah :) |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE |
done. |
| 14:28 |
tenplus1 |
could we have the homedecor_common have intllib support and remove the homedecor_i18n mod |
| 14:28 |
VanessaE |
I thought about that actually |
| 14:28 |
tenplus1 |
all the important stuffs should be in the common mod |
| 14:28 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 14:28 |
VanessaE |
not really sure if it would be better that way or not. |
| 14:29 |
VanessaE |
of course, if it were up to me, I'd rip out the i18n crap altogether... locale stuff should be client-side, not server-side. but I guess that isn't possible yet. |
| 14:29 |
rubenwardy |
it is in 5.0.0 |
| 14:29 |
tenplus1 |
yaaaaay |
| 14:29 |
tenplus1 |
hi ruben... |
| 14:29 |
VanessaE |
wait what? |
| 14:30 |
Krock |
inb4 client-side translations |
| 14:30 |
Krock |
although it's not gettext but a re-implementation |
| 14:30 |
tenplus1 |
how do we use it ? |
| 14:30 |
VanessaE |
well, pull requests welcome :) |
| 14:30 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L219 |
| 14:30 |
Krock |
example 5.0.0 mod: https://github.com/SmallJoker/upgrade_packs |
| 14:31 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2514 |
| 14:31 |
VanessaE |
huh. |
| 14:32 |
VanessaE |
from this, it looks like conversion to client-side translations would be pretty trivial |
| 14:32 |
Krock |
it is |
| 14:32 |
VanessaE |
all my mods that use it already have "S = homedecor.i18n.somethingorother" at the start |
| 14:32 |
Krock |
but currently it requires the translation files to be in the simple a=b notation |
| 14:32 |
tenplus1 |
easy to fix :D sweet |
| 14:32 |
VanessaE |
I think homedecor's locale files are done like that, Krock |
| 14:33 |
VanessaE |
but someone else can mess with translations :P |
| 14:33 |
Krock |
and the file termination must be .<lang_code>.tr to make it work |
| 14:33 |
VanessaE |
it was enough for me to wrap my head around the big split |
| 14:33 |
tenplus1 |
Ilike the big slit :) not players can use what parts they want |
| 14:33 |
VanessaE |
and THAT didn't get the translations moved over per-modf |
| 14:34 |
VanessaE |
but since they all depend on homedecor_common and _i18n it doesn't matter |
| 14:34 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: exactly. |
| 14:35 |
tenplus1 |
would still remove homedecor_i18n, no need for a separate mod for translations, that's what intllib is |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
someone else can do that :) |
| 14:35 |
tenplus1 |
many mods in general have dependency nightmares |
| 14:35 |
tenplus1 |
if I get tiume today I'll tinker with is |
| 14:35 |
tenplus1 |
*it |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
also, I'm open to existing depends being made optional where possible |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
I tried to keep them minimal, but some stuff just has to depend on other stuff, for now anyway |
| 14:36 |
tenplus1 |
dont want another farming;moreores;toolranks issue with dependency circles :) heh |
| 14:36 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
fwiw, I already marked homedecor as only for use with 5.0.0+ so we're free to fuck with all we want :) |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: there's no 5.0.1 option in contentdb |
| 14:37 |
rubenwardy |
The API is the same |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
| 14:38 |
tenplus1 |
will slowly move all my mods over to 5.0.1 eventually... just time... |
| 14:38 |
tenplus1 |
if no-one's mods works with 0.4.16 then all the crappy clones wont work :D |
| 14:38 |
rubenwardy |
I should probably make it more clear |
| 14:38 |
VanessaE |
good. :) |
| 14:41 |
rubenwardy |
What's clearer |
| 14:41 |
rubenwardy |
0.4.16-17 |
| 14:41 |
rubenwardy |
Or something else |
| 14:41 |
rubenwardy |
0.4.16 and 0.4.17 |
| 14:42 |
VanessaE |
16-17 |
| 14:42 |
tenplus1 |
0.4.16+ |
| 14:42 |
VanessaE |
or that |
| 14:42 |
rubenwardy |
16+ would include 5.0.0 |
| 14:42 |
tenplus1 |
hrm... |
| 14:42 |
rubenwardy |
0.4.16-0.4.17 |
| 14:42 |
rubenwardy |
With spaces |
| 14:42 |
VanessaE |
I think I'd just leave-out 0.4.x at this point |
| 14:43 |
VanessaE |
there's no reason to use it now |
| 14:43 |
tenplus1 |
5.0.1 is the new stable base that all mods should be built on now |
| 14:43 |
rubenwardy |
It's needed to hide releases which don't support 5.0.0 |
| 14:43 |
VanessaE |
exactly. |
| 14:43 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: well, fair enough |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
small heads up: moreblocks HEAD now requires Minetest 5.0.0 or later |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
(if you're on 0.4.17, use More Blocks 1.3.0) |
| 15:04 |
tenplus1 |
hi cal, thx |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
sounds fair |
| 15:04 |
tenplus1 |
what's changed ? |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
I just removed the deprecated depends.txt/description.txt, that's why |
| 15:05 |
tenplus1 |
ahh |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
that's something else I need to work on |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
should be easy to make a conversion script |
| 15:06 |
VanessaE |
though I'm NOT a fan of cramming all the depends into one long line |
| 15:07 |
rubenwardy |
it kinda sucks for lots of mods |
| 15:08 |
rubenwardy |
I'd like to support multiline text to make that nicer |
| 15:08 |
rubenwardy |
maybe depends ``= mod1\n mod2\n mod3\n ``` |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
which is similar to how YML/JS does it IIRC |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
why not just multiple depends= entries? |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
that would be much easier to read |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
that could work |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
basically s/^/^depends =/ >> mod.conf |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
or whatever |
| 15:10 |
VanessaE |
it would be trivial to convert to, readable, easy to deal with |
| 15:10 |
rubenwardy |
maybe have depends+= for append |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
why? |
| 15:11 |
rubenwardy |
the issue with just adding this is that it is valid to have settings appearing multiple times |
| 15:11 |
rubenwardy |
like, through user mistake |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
wouldn't it be implied? |
| 15:11 |
rubenwardy |
so you don't want it to do this for all settings |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
well no, |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
but we're talking about depends here |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
and for most mods, there's at least 2 |
| 15:12 |
VanessaE |
(hell, these days, more like 3-4, since lots of stuff uses e.g. unified dyes, or basic materials, along with default et. al) |
| 15:16 |
tenplus1 |
why not include those inside homedecor_modpack ? |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
interesting, texture packs still use description.txt |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
(mod.conf is ignored there) |
| 15:16 |
VanessaE |
because they're separate from and independent of HD. |
| 15:16 |
tenplus1 |
oh |
| 15:18 |
Calinou |
there :) https://i.imgur.com/oudeHqB.png |
| 15:18 |
VanessaE |
still rocking Misa64 eh :) |
| 15:18 |
Calinou |
I pushed it to GitHub last month: https://github.com/Calinou/misa |
| 15:19 |
Calinou |
I also added most 0.4.17/5.0.0 textures (still missing coral textures) |
| 15:20 |
VanessaE |
HDX needs some updates too |
| 15:20 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/Calinou/misa/blob/master/GALLERY.md |
| 15:20 |
Calinou |
I managed to make savannas look quite nice (and less bright compared to default, so it fits Misa more) |
| 15:23 |
BillyS |
Okay, minetest is cursed. I overrode minetest.is_protected, but even though the function is being called and returns 'true', I can still dig / place nodes |
| 15:23 |
BillyS |
Any idea? |
| 15:23 |
tenplus1 |
hi billy |
| 15:24 |
BillyS |
hi 11 |
| 15:24 |
BillyS |
:P |
| 15:24 |
tenplus1 |
VanessaE: I've removed homedecor_int8 and moved intllib support into common, also fixed mesecon global warning |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
thanks :) |
| 15:25 |
VanessaE |
I take it you changed that for all mods in the pack? |
| 15:25 |
tenplus1 |
yup, notabug updated :P |
| 15:26 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 15:27 |
VanessaE |
"Some files were not shown because too many files changed in this diff" |
| 15:27 |
VanessaE |
D: |
| 15:27 |
VanessaE |
stupid notabug :P |
| 15:27 |
BillyS |
Odd |
| 15:27 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe, I like it... is simplez |
| 15:27 |
VanessaE |
fuck it. git pull. |
| 15:27 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 15:27 |
BillyS |
In most area mods it looks like that is all that is changed |
| 15:27 |
BillyS |
aieeee |
| 15:27 |
VanessaE |
there, pulled and pushed. |
| 15:28 |
tenplus1 |
kewl :) |
| 15:29 |
BillyS |
Oh gawsh |
| 15:29 |
tenplus1 |
billy, do you have protection_bypass privs ? that will let you place./remove anything even if it's protected |
| 15:30 |
BillyS |
tenplus1: I'm writing my own version of a protection mod :P |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
yapm |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
Yet Another Protection Mod? |
| 15:30 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 15:30 |
BillyS |
And for some reason "minetest.register_on_protection_violation" isn't being called |
| 15:30 |
tenplus1 |
show us code |
| 15:30 |
BillyS |
Krock: No, it's part of the ctf ripoff I'm making |
| 15:30 |
BillyS |
For PK |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
Player Kills |
| 15:30 |
BillyS |
Persistant Kingdoms |
| 15:30 |
BillyS |
But that's the idea |
| 15:30 |
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| 15:30 |
tenplus1 |
wb Ganome |
| 15:31 |
BillyS |
tenplus1: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5Zv3jFQZ7X/ |
| 15:32 |
BillyS |
That's the relevant part |
| 15:32 |
BillyS |
And I know that new_is_protected does return true when it's supposed to |
| 15:33 |
tenplus1 |
line 34 checks for new_is_protected and returns true every time it's found... shoudnt you return new_is_protected(pos,name) |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2041&p=349269#p349269 |
| 15:34 |
BillyS |
tenplus1: No, because if it isn't protected (new_is_protected returns false) it needs to return old_is_protected |
| 15:35 |
BillyS |
Also, I'm running this on MT 5 |
| 15:35 |
BillyS |
dunno if it does protection differently |
| 15:35 |
tenplus1 |
what I read is if new_is_protected function found then always return true |
| 15:35 |
tenplus1 |
intead try: if new_is_protected then return new_is_protected(pos, name) end |
| 15:36 |
tenplus1 |
and it'll return only the result of that function |
| 15:37 |
BillyS |
..what |
| 15:37 |
BillyS |
new_is_protected(pos, name) should call the function |
| 15:37 |
BillyS |
And check it's output |
| 15:38 |
tenplus1 |
'tis okie |
| 15:38 |
BillyS |
See https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4747 |
| 15:39 |
tenplus1 |
I read a bit wrong :Dehehe |
| 15:40 |
BillyS |
ah, okay :P |
| 15:42 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: oops, you left an empty dir |
| 15:43 |
tenplus1 |
I did ? |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
homedecor_i18n/textures homedecor_i18n/models |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
hm. |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
nope, untracked on my end |
| 15:43 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
must be a glitch local |
| 15:44 |
BillyS |
OH DERP |
| 15:44 |
BillyS |
I was playing as an admin |
| 15:45 |
* BillyS |
facepalms |
| 15:45 |
tenplus1 |
lolol, you have 'protection_bypass' ? |
| 15:45 |
BillyS |
Oddly enough, no |
| 15:46 |
BillyS |
But when I played as a normal player it worked |
| 15:46 |
tenplus1 |
yay |
| 15:47 |
BillyS |
oh wait |
| 15:47 |
BillyS |
there was another protection mod |
| 15:47 |
BillyS |
And it gave me protection_bypass |
| 15:47 |
BillyS |
darnit sparky |
| 15:47 |
tenplus1 |
sparky ? |
| 15:47 |
BillyS |
i r c s p a r k y |
| 15:48 |
BillyS |
Don't want to ping |
| 15:48 |
BillyS |
He originally made and hosted this subgame |
| 15:48 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 15:48 |
BillyS |
Then he quit and I took up the slack |
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tenplus1 |
wb kaeza |
| 16:07 |
* tenplus1 |
is off to nom pizza :) |
| 16:07 |
tenplus1 |
laters |
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| 16:35 |
kaeza |
Yummy. |
| 16:35 |
kaeza |
o/ Krock |
| 16:35 |
Krock |
o\ |
| 16:35 |
* rubenwardy |
is cooking gammon and roast potatoes |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
mmmmmm |
| 17:10 |
xerox123 |
having a bbq |
| 17:55 |
Fixer |
r o a s t p o t a t o e s |
| 17:56 |
rubenwardy |
you say potatoes, I say potatoes |
| 17:57 |
* VanessaE |
throws some sweet potatoes at rubenwardy :) |
| 17:57 |
Fixer |
potatoes agree |
| 17:57 |
rubenwardy |
<3 |
| 17:57 |
rubenwardy |
sweet potatoes are good in vegetarian curries |
| 17:58 |
rubenwardy |
with chickpeas, spinach, and greek yoghurt |
| 17:59 |
Krock |
can confirm |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
well, not the part with spinach. don't eat it with spinach. |
| 18:02 |
rubenwardy |
good source of fibre ? |
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kaeza |
Mortadella sandwiches and mate for now. Maybe rice with whatever at night. |
| 18:51 |
kaeza |
Rice++ |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
mate? |
| 18:52 |
kaeza |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28drink%29 |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 19:28 |
BillyS |
Do formspec textlists work with multi-line pieces of text? |
| 19:29 |
rubenwardy |
you should split them into multiple lines |
| 19:29 |
Krock |
no, it looks weird |
| 19:29 |
BillyS |
Hmm, okay |
| 19:29 |
BillyS |
thx |
| 19:36 |
BillyS |
Also, the formspec corrdinate system is cursed and needs holy waer poured all over it. In case anyone didn't mention that. :) |
| 19:36 |
BillyS |
*water |
| 19:38 |
Krock |
can't help it. fixing it would break the layout of mods |
| 19:40 |
BillyS |
ah |
| 19:40 |
BillyS |
hmm |
| 19:40 |
BillyS |
Add a "fixed" option to minetest.show_formspec |
| 19:40 |
BillyS |
:P |
| 19:45 |
kaeza |
There's An Issue About That™ |
| 19:46 |
kaeza |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3872 |
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rdococ |
The formspec coordinate system is... a bit broken, to say the least. |
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