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| 08:17 |
Krock |
ANAND: why so sad? :( |
| 08:18 |
ANAND |
#8495 (issue comment) |
| 08:18 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8495 -- Fix incorrect pointer placement repo-wide by ClobberXD |
| 08:18 |
ANAND |
:_( |
| 08:19 |
ANAND |
But what you said is perfectly valid. Nothing we can do about it. I'm just feigning to be in a state of utter misery - gotta get that PR merged somehow ;P |
| 08:21 |
Krock |
FYI: there are way more misplaced brackets and missing spaces |
| 08:22 |
Krock |
content_cao and _sao surely have such places |
| 08:22 |
Krock |
maybe game.cpp too, not sure. |
| 08:22 |
ANAND |
I too thought so |
| 08:23 |
Krock |
if you're already formatting these, it should be done so they can be removed from the LINT whitelist |
| 08:23 |
Krock |
and per-directory, rather than for the entire project |
| 08:23 |
ANAND |
But this PR only corrects the pointer placement |
| 08:24 |
ANAND |
Fixing code-style completely, but per-directory seems to be a more sensible idea. |
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Calinou |
sofar: thanks :) |
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Calinou |
Krock: well yeah, the upside of the README is that you can read it easily on a headless system like a VPS |
| 12:43 |
Calinou |
so if you stumble upon a mod archive, you know how to install it :P |
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Krock |
oh I see. good point |
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Fixer |
*,,,,,* |
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rubenwardy |
yay, one approval! #8461 |
| 16:32 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8461 -- Reimplement particles using the Irrlicht particle system and improve collision handling by DTA7 |
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Fixer |
\\\\o |
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srifqi |
o/ |
| 17:22 |
ANAND |
Been wanting to ask this for quite some time - What are the benefits of using Irrlicht particle system? |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
faster |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
waayyyyy faster |
| 17:23 |
ANAND |
Cool :D |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
our implementation has a scene node per particle |
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rubenwardy |
each particle thus has a draw call |
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MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: Apr-27 03:22 UTC <benrob0329> I'm pretty handy with mesecons |
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rubenwardy |
Irrlicht batches the particles into one draw call |
| 17:23 |
ANAND |
Eww... |
| 17:24 |
tumeninodes |
Hiiiidy hoe |
| 17:24 |
rubenwardy |
it's like doing 1000x drawParticle({x,y,z}) instead of drawParticles([ {x,y,z}, ...1000 ]) |
| 17:25 |
ANAND |
Heh |
| 17:26 |
ANAND |
Why then did MT create its own particle system? Is there a catch to Irrlicht's? |
| 17:26 |
tumeninodes |
I was looking at some other game engine's UIs, with a thought of possibly attempting to integrate them into MT, just purely out of daydreaming |
| 17:26 |
rubenwardy |
because people are stupid |
| 17:26 |
rubenwardy |
NIH |
| 17:27 |
tumeninodes |
I can confirm this... from experience, I'm a people, and I'm stupid |
| 17:28 |
tumeninodes |
https://doc.xenko.com/3.1/en/manual/ui/index.html |
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| 17:28 |
rubenwardy |
UI is surprisingly painful |
| 17:28 |
tumeninodes |
!title |
| 17:28 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: UI | Xenko |
| 17:28 |
rubenwardy |
added tooltip support last week: https://i.rubenwardy.com/Dz3bY.png |
| 17:29 |
tumeninodes |
nice. is the line space necessary or just a result of whatever? |
| 17:29 |
ANAND |
Nice |
| 17:30 |
rubenwardy |
line space? |
| 17:30 |
rubenwardy |
the empty line in the tool tip is on purpose |
| 17:30 |
ANAND |
Vertical separation |
| 17:30 |
tumeninodes |
between the name and the defs |
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rubenwardy |
I'm planning on adding support for text colors and sizes |
| 17:30 |
rubenwardy |
in which case it'll be smaller and in different colors instead |
| 17:31 |
tumeninodes |
ah ok |
| 17:31 |
ANAND |
Quick question: How would style[] work on older clients (would it)? |
| 17:31 |
rubenwardy |
fun gimick: https://i.rubenwardy.com/FtDNF.png |
| 17:31 |
rubenwardy |
ANAND: it won't |
| 17:31 |
ANAND |
Then, how... |
| 17:32 |
rubenwardy |
unfortunately there will be errors, because formspec are stupid |
| 17:32 |
tumeninodes |
there are a few opensource engines on github, with decent UIs, which might not be overly difficult to integrate |
| 17:32 |
ANAND |
:( |
| 17:32 |
rubenwardy |
but there's an API to get client versions |
| 17:32 |
rubenwardy |
so you could use that |
| 17:32 |
ANAND |
Yeah but most mods aren't going to take the pain to do that :) |
| 17:32 |
tumeninodes |
The UI for Xenko of course is very elaborate and the most luxurious of them |
| 17:33 |
IhrFussel |
Hey do you guys think it is called 'kick off protection' or 'kick from protection'? |
| 17:33 |
tumeninodes |
kick to the balls? |
| 17:33 |
ANAND |
:P |
| 17:33 |
IhrFussel |
I'm implementing a way to make player leave your own protection |
| 17:34 |
rubenwardy |
another fun feature: https://i.rubenwardy.com/JJwWz.png |
| 17:34 |
ANAND |
Ah, then "Kick from ..." sounds more natural |
| 17:34 |
tumeninodes |
it looks nice but ugh, so much dead space |
| 17:35 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, it's not meant to look like that |
| 17:35 |
rubenwardy |
I've never tried to stretch it |
| 17:35 |
tumeninodes |
our formspec is so.... bland |
| 17:35 |
rubenwardy |
that one probably shouldn't be stretchable |
| 17:36 |
tumeninodes |
I still love Kenney's artwork ;D |
| 17:36 |
rubenwardy |
oh lol |
| 17:36 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, I'm still using that |
| 17:36 |
rubenwardy |
except my hand drawn dog |
| 17:36 |
tumeninodes |
I hope some day I have time to finish my version of it |
| 17:36 |
rubenwardy |
https://i.rubenwardy.com/rLq8h.png |
| 17:37 |
tumeninodes |
hahahaha Im busting laughing |
| 17:37 |
ANAND |
lol, what's that? |
| 17:37 |
rubenwardy |
it's a dog |
| 17:37 |
rubenwardy |
pretty obvious, gosh |
| 17:37 |
rubenwardy |
all it does currently is attempt to follow the player, and glitch through walls |
| 17:37 |
tumeninodes |
it looks like that dude's arm cut off with the middle finger up |
| 17:38 |
rubenwardy |
also |
| 17:38 |
rubenwardy |
here is my original artwork: https://blog.rubenwardy.com/static/blog/rvwp/4_inventories_placement.png |
| 17:38 |
rubenwardy |
you may notice the textures |
| 17:38 |
ANAND |
-_- |
| 17:39 |
tumeninodes |
I can't do, top down games they afuse me |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
can't do? |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
they're Minetest's textures |
| 17:39 |
tumeninodes |
can't play them |
| 17:40 |
rubenwardy |
oh lol |
| 17:40 |
ANAND |
tumeninodes: it really does look like what you described it to be, lol |
| 17:40 |
rubenwardy |
I love RimWorld so much |
| 17:40 |
tumeninodes |
yes, I noticed the sand and the book |
| 17:40 |
tumeninodes |
I was being kind and kid friendly and didn;t want to hurt rubenwardy's feelings too much |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
Hey paramat, before you join join the channel and complain, please admire my map generation skills: https://i.rubenwardy.com/lRV1K.png |
| 17:41 |
tumeninodes |
really need to start thinking about looking at other UI options though |
| 17:42 |
tumeninodes |
being into series 5 now... it's just time |
| 17:43 |
tumeninodes |
and like I said, there ARE a few decent options I have seen already on github to look at, and still many pages of the search left to look through |
| 17:45 |
tumeninodes |
why does everyone go to lunch when I talk? xD |
| 17:45 |
ANAND |
lol |
| 17:47 |
tumeninodes |
!tell benrob0329 thanks dude I'm all set now, it was just for testing. But I did it already |
| 17:47 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: I'll pass that on when benrob0329 is around |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
what's series 5? |
| 17:48 |
ANAND |
5.0.0 |
| 17:48 |
tumeninodes |
my psychotic way of saying 5.0.01 |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
ahh |
| 17:48 |
tumeninodes |
sounds cooler and I want to set a trend |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.6 |
| 17:48 |
tumeninodes |
wait 5.0.1 |
| 17:49 |
tumeninodes |
0_o this is getting confizzling |
| 17:49 |
ANAND |
Dev is quite slow these days |
| 17:49 |
tumeninodes |
slow-er |
| 17:50 |
tumeninodes |
usually the same this time of year |
| 17:50 |
ANAND |
True |
| 17:50 |
tumeninodes |
which is a perfect time to startlooking at formspec replacement options. |
| 17:51 |
tumeninodes |
That way when people come back they have no idea wtf is going on |
| 17:51 |
tumeninodes |
it's a good business model, I've seen it done many times |
| 17:51 |
ANAND |
haha |
| 17:52 |
tumeninodes |
it makes people try harder, because they think something is going on that they've been left out of :D |
| 17:54 |
ANAND |
The new FS replacement should at least ditch this weird syntax and require a table-based syntax instead |
| 17:55 |
ANAND |
e.g. { type = "button", pos = {x = ,y = ,w = ,h =}, label = "Press here" } |
| 17:56 |
ANAND |
I'd also love to see non-modal UIs |
| 17:57 |
ANAND |
or, interactive HUD elements |
| 17:57 |
tumeninodes |
something not so stiff and restrictive |
| 17:58 |
tumeninodes |
a UI wetdream https://doc.xenko.com/3.1/en/manual/ui/index.html |
| 17:59 |
rdococ |
the layout should be fixed |
| 17:59 |
ANAND |
Wow, that's sophisticatedly cool |
| 17:59 |
rdococ |
x, y should be the same position for every UI element |
| 17:59 |
ANAND |
Yea |
| 17:59 |
tumeninodes |
why? |
| 18:00 |
IhrFussel |
I potentially found a HUGE security issue in the MT menu... can I tell someone trustworthy who has 5.0.1 handy? |
| 18:00 |
ANAND |
I'm on 5.1.0 |
| 18:00 |
rdococ |
5.1 exists? |
| 18:00 |
ANAND |
The -dev version |
| 18:00 |
rdococ |
ah |
| 18:00 |
ANAND |
Well, ye can always trust the devs |
| 18:01 |
ANAND |
:) |
| 18:01 |
tumeninodes |
ther's something about the number5... and security issues |
| 18:02 |
tumeninodes |
G5, now 5.0.1 |
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* tumeninodes |
puts on conspiracy hat |
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tenplus1 |
Hi folks :) |
| 19:35 |
tenplus1 |
hey Krock |
| 19:38 |
tumeninodes |
o/ |
| 19:38 |
tenplus1 |
hi tumeni o/ |
| 19:41 |
tenplus1 |
Farming Redo was updated so that each crop has it's own rarety value |
| 19:41 |
tumeninodes |
gettin fancy |
| 19:42 |
sfan5 |
what are the effects of that? |
| 19:42 |
tenplus1 |
a needed feature it seems, some plants were a little too rare for players :D |
| 19:42 |
sfan5 |
ah |
| 19:43 |
tenplus1 |
hi sfan... means that you can make things like carrots spawn all around but hemp rare as hell |
| 19:43 |
tumeninodes |
money is a little too rare for me.... can you fix that? |
| 19:43 |
tenplus1 |
the farming.conf file lets you amend all the settings :) farming.money = 500.0 |
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tumeninodes |
haha |
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Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 19:44 |
tenplus1 |
hi dude |
| 19:44 |
VanessaE |
ah HAH |
| 19:44 |
tenplus1 |
]hi Vanessa :P |
| 19:44 |
VanessaE |
hi :) |
| 19:46 |
tenplus1 |
anything new in the world of homedecor ? |
| 19:47 |
tenplus1 |
was thinking of a removal's box that you could use to move ANY node with metadata and timers from one spot to another |
| 20:06 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks |
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IhrFussel |
Is 'return old_is_protected(pos, name)' inside protection mods only needed cause the server might use multiple protection mods? I mean if I'm 100% certain I only use this one mod for protection then I can simply return false instead right? |
| 20:11 |
Fixer |
hi tidyman |
| 20:15 |
Krock |
IhrFussel: return false will allow all actions |
| 20:16 |
Krock |
mods need to overwrite this function in order to prevent player interactions |
| 20:16 |
Krock |
it can also be overwritten entirely, without a backup variable, but that surely makes the mod incompatible with other protection mods |
| 20:16 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, I mean this https://github.com/minetest-mods/areas/blob/master/interact.lua#L2 |
| 20:18 |
IhrFussel |
Well it's only for personal use in my case ... so it won't break if I replace that with 'return false'? |
| 20:21 |
Krock |
it also won't bring you any benefit from doing that |
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Krock |
o/ bai |
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paramat |
"please admire my map generation skills: https://i.rubenwardy.com/lRV1K.png" LOL |
| 22:44 |
tumeninodes |
I dream of a map... MGFlat, with a ridges/river settings like MGV7 added, with one large river winding down through the middle.... MG V8... priceless. ;) |
| 22:45 |
tumeninodes |
or... just MGFlat with the additional option |
| 22:53 |
paramat |
hey good to see you here. hmm good idea |
| 22:55 |
tumeninodes |
I'm hopefully slowly getting more active again, real life got busy |
| 22:57 |
tumeninodes |
gotta head out to take my kid so he can see endgame with his buds |
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tumeninodes |
he's having social media withdrawls cuz he doesn't want to see spoilers xD |
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tumeninodes |
bbl |
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rubenwardy |
Minetest has 121,598 lines of C++ |
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rubenwardy |
122,290 including comments and empty lines |
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paramat |
not many comments or empty lines then, thought there would be more |
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Fixer |
rubenwardy: feels like pattern from some demos |
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rubenwardy |
Fixer: it's literally just 2d noise |
