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ANAND |
Happy Sunday, everyone! |
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Krock |
cheers |
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ANAND |
Aloha, Krock :) |
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Krock |
konichiwa |
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ANAND |
Et tu aussi |
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sex spamer - https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=25168 |
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Fixer |
another spammer - https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=25166 |
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tumeninodes |
any core game devs have time to review and approve/disapprove? https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2443 |
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| 17:24 |
Krock |
why not steel bars? |
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tumeninodes |
? what do you mean? |
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Krock |
2x xpanes bar for a door |
| 17:25 |
Krock |
or three + steel ingot to indicate the lock |
| 17:26 |
tumeninodes |
I'm more than happy to change the recipes to what the majority agrees on. I did them originally with xpanes but figured adding that extra dep was a slight issue |
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Krock |
soft dep |
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| 17:27 |
tumeninodes |
and paramat mentioned this as well. |
| 17:28 |
tumeninodes |
if I can get a solid :sort of" vote on that Im happy to change it back. I was thinking about adding a lock to the texture because the small handle I added looks rather sad |
| 17:30 |
tumeninodes |
the reason xpanes made sense to me originally, is that one could take an xpane, and fashion a handle and hinges to make a trap door, and weld two together for a door (<in pretend thinking of course) |
| 17:31 |
tumeninodes |
could be one xpane with a steel ingot on top for trap door, then two xpanes with a steel ingot on top for the door. Im ok with that but would just like to have more agree to it beforehand |
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| 17:32 |
tumeninodes |
I seriously doubt anyone ever using these mods without the other. If they do they would be building an entirely new game anyway |
| 17:35 |
tumeninodes |
I am flexible only because I have not much interest in crafting. So I leave that decision to you core devs, it can be done either way, and these are a nice addition |
| 17:37 |
tumeninodes |
paramat: what do you think? can we change your mind regarding xpanes? It is extremely low likeliness anyone is going to use doors without xpanes or vice versa. Every game/server out there uses both |
| 17:39 |
Lone_Wolf |
I'm for using xpanes |
| 17:42 |
tumeninodes |
I'm gonna make a couple changes, because I feel safe in thinking most will view using xpanes as making complete sense. I understand the concern but, really thinking on it, I honestly do not think it produces a serious issue, even down the road |
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Krock |
tumeninodes: paramat isn't online btw |
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| 21:01 |
DS-minetest |
o/ |
| 21:05 |
DS-minetest |
!tell Krock So, you don't like using || for floats? It would work. |
| 21:05 |
MinetestBot |
DS-minetest: yeah, yeah |
| 21:05 |
tumeninodes |
\o hey, xpanes is back in the picture for the bar doors |
| 21:06 |
DS-minetest |
yeah, I've seen it |
| 21:07 |
tumeninodes |
funny how sometimes being a contributor feels like being a kid between divorced parents xD |
| 21:08 |
DS-minetest |
I woder what Krock meant with his suggestion number 2 |
| 21:08 |
DS-minetest |
wonder* |
| 21:10 |
tumeninodes |
I wondered the same, I'm sure he'll explain |
| 21:11 |
tumeninodes |
only things I need to know for sure now are, where to reg and what recipes to use |
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DS-minetest |
registering the doors in xpanes probably makes sense |
| 21:12 |
tumeninodes |
either way one will be dep on the other so actually makes no diff |
| 21:12 |
tumeninodes |
makes more sense to reg in "doors" to me (where the rest of the doors are) |
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DS-minetest |
I think, the doors api is much more often used than the xpanes api |
| 21:13 |
tumeninodes |
the doors will not use the xpanes code to exist (behave like xpanes) |
| 21:13 |
tumeninodes |
it's only using bar-flat data and texture |
| 21:13 |
DS-minetest |
Or you could split the doors mod up into doors_api and doors |
| 21:14 |
tumeninodes |
that was mentioned but would be done in another PR |
| 21:14 |
tumeninodes |
down the road |
| 21:14 |
DS-minetest |
yeah, out of scope |
| 21:16 |
DS-minetest |
or add a new mod, bar_doors |
| 21:16 |
tumeninodes |
haha |
| 21:16 |
DS-minetest |
mtg has many small mods and one big mod with single files that are extremely bloated, just take that as example |
| 21:16 |
DS-minetest |
hehe |
| 21:17 |
tumeninodes |
I had originally thought of doing steel bar and iron bar doors |
| 21:17 |
tumeninodes |
but felt best to go with only adding one type, and use the type which already exists |
| 21:17 |
tumeninodes |
when you do a PR you can already sort of envision the obstacles which will come |
| 21:18 |
DS-minetest |
the problem is that you can't melt iron without making it to steel, it's physically impossible |
| 21:19 |
tumeninodes |
a lot of things in MTG are physically impossible |
| 21:19 |
DS-minetest |
I'll ask about the 2nd suggestion on github |
| 21:19 |
tumeninodes |
but then again.... "game" |
| 21:20 |
tumeninodes |
I think he may have meant duplicate the recipe but add a lock to it |
| 21:24 |
VanessaE |
fwiw castle modpack already has a steel grate door... |
| 21:24 |
tumeninodes |
>:( who asked you? ;) j/k |
| 21:25 |
VanessaE |
D: |
| 21:26 |
tumeninodes |
I didn't even know that, I've never used it... well poop... now what? |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
idk |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
just pointing it out. |
| 21:26 |
DS-minetest |
are clouds synced for all players? |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
I think it's castles anyways. it's in dreambuilder |
| 21:27 |
tumeninodes |
I'll have to take a look at it... |
| 21:27 |
DS-minetest |
!mod castles++ |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
however you (or was it DS) were right that mtg needs a steel bar item. :) |
| 21:27 |
MinetestBot |
DS-minetest: Castles++ Rolling release [castle] by philipbenr - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9894 |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
that's the one |
| 21:28 |
tumeninodes |
you mean the steel stick suggestion? |
| 21:28 |
DS-minetest |
I think, there are much older issues that request things like steel bars |
| 21:28 |
VanessaE |
mmhmm |
| 21:30 |
DS-minetest |
in the castle mod, it's the jail door: https://github.com/minetest-mods/castle_gates/blob/80334ba480901480b1fc144b3b591b8a36b4eea3/doors.lua#L20-L33 |
| 21:30 |
VanessaE |
yeah, that's the one |
| 21:31 |
DS-minetest |
it uses its own xpanes to craft |
| 21:32 |
tumeninodes |
well.... this lets people have bar doors without a mod so.... thpltpltpltplt |
| 21:32 |
tumeninodes |
:D |
| 21:32 |
tumeninodes |
and those are scary... mine are happy |
| 21:32 |
tumeninodes |
scary creepy old jail doors |
| 21:33 |
tumeninodes |
look how dirty that thing is... you don;t know whats growing on it |
| 21:33 |
DS-minetest |
add a squeaking sound when opening |
| 21:33 |
tumeninodes |
my steel bar doors are nice and clean |
| 21:34 |
DS-minetest |
let's make dirt clean! |
| 21:34 |
tumeninodes |
yep Ive already been looking at new sounds for them (and the steel doors too) |
| 21:34 |
tumeninodes |
the current sound for steel doors sounds like a freakin closet door |
| 21:36 |
VanessaE |
it does sound a lot more "wooden" than "metal" |
| 21:36 |
tumeninodes |
ya it does |
| 21:39 |
DS-minetest |
may I suggest using this sound for opening the door: https://freesound.org/people/InspectorJ/sounds/476652/ |
| 21:39 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 21:40 |
tumeninodes |
hahaha |
| 21:40 |
DS-minetest |
or maybe when you are standing next to a door |
| 21:41 |
tumeninodes |
I sat and listened to the entire thing |
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* DS-minetest |
is thinking of making a mod for this |
| 21:41 |
tumeninodes |
reminds me of the Seinfeld doors someone did a while back |
| 21:42 |
tumeninodes |
!mod seinfeld_doors |
| 21:42 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: There are no results for this query :( |
| 21:44 |
tumeninodes |
stupid MinetestBot |
| 21:44 |
tumeninodes |
here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r4f-6CXlxw |
| 21:45 |
tumeninodes |
oh, my bad it was never put on the forums and the github page is gone |
| 21:50 |
* DS-minetest |
likes the stuff on that youtube channel |
| 21:50 |
tumeninodes |
I think, if no word after a bit I will just revert this PR back to how I originally had it and ..... wait |
| 21:50 |
DS-minetest |
also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLzxrzFCyOs |
| 21:50 |
DS-minetest |
tumeninodes: do you still have the old branch? |
| 21:52 |
tumeninodes |
no :( but I remember what I did which is unusual for me |
| 21:53 |
tumeninodes |
that rms mod by whitepheonix though haha |
| 21:55 |
tumeninodes |
it's all right here anyway https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2442/files in the orig PR |
| 21:55 |
tumeninodes |
I end up having to redo PRs completely because I suck at rebasing |
| 22:00 |
tumeninodes |
brb a cigar is calling me |
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