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	| 16:05 | TommyTreasure | any recommendations for a VPS provider? perferrably in the USA. my current provider is ceasing their VPS operations at the end of july | 
        
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	| 16:10 | TommyTreasure | horror stories welcomed too. nothing worse than choosing a vps with problems. | 
        
	| 16:11 | VanessaE | well you sure as hell don't wanna go with whoever it is that's hosting the forums :P | 
        
	| 16:11 | TommyTreasure | i totally agree on that one! | 
        
	| 16:12 | rubenwardy | liteservers hosts the forums | 
        
	| 16:12 | rubenwardy | too lite | 
        
	| 16:12 | TommyTreasure | 150G storage suits my current needs | 
        
	| 16:12 | VanessaE | also, unless they've improved their DDOS handing, avoid Linode. | 
        
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	| 16:13 | TommyTreasure | current service was very affordable, and had almost flawless service for 2 years | 
        
	| 16:14 | VanessaE | you might consider a Kimsufi or SoYouStart dedicated server.  the former is a little slow but cheap af, while the the latter costs a bit more (but is still inexpensive) and is quite fast | 
        
	| 16:14 | VanessaE | and they're OVH subsidiaries, so good DDoS protection | 
        
	| 16:14 | TommyTreasure | i'm paying 20/mo for the 150G storage, and can't remember the rest of the specs | 
        
	| 16:15 | TommyTreasure | at least the current one gave a 4 month heads up | 
        
	| 16:15 | VanessaE | kimsufi's cheapest in-stock server is about $18/mo:  KS-7Intel  i3-21302c/4t3.4GHz8GB DDR3 1333 MHz  2TB 100 Mbps/128$17.99 | 
        
	| 16:15 | VanessaE | https://www.kimsufi.com/us/en/servers.xml | 
        
	| 16:17 | TommyTreasure | 2TB? wow! | 
        
	| 16:17 | VanessaE | their disk speeds leaves a little bit to be desired, but for low-end uses, you can solve that with some aggressive cacheing. | 
        
	| 16:18 | VanessaE | I use a SoYouStart server to run my stuff on, so maybe I'm slightly biased ;) | 
        
	| 16:18 | TommyTreasure | that could be an issue. 2 maps, and a small, low volume web server | 
        
	| 16:18 | VanessaE | nah, it isn't THAT slow | 
        
	| 16:19 | VanessaE | I just meant in my use-case (my servers really need the speed the SSDs in their current box provide) | 
        
	| 16:19 | TommyTreasure | 'tis when you're near the limit for registered nodes  :) | 
        
	| 16:19 | VanessaE | heh | 
        
	| 16:19 | TommyTreasure | neither one of my games are high volume | 
        
	| 16:19 | VanessaE | give Kimsufi a try then :) | 
        
	| 16:20 | VanessaE | it's paid monthly if you want, so you can quickly go elsewhere if it doesn't work out | 
        
	| 16:20 | TommyTreasure | i usually do auto pay | 
        
	| 16:20 | VanessaE | (can you tell I'm biased against VPSs? :P ) | 
        
	| 16:21 | TommyTreasure | what's the diff with SoYouStart? | 
        
	| 16:21 | VanessaE | as I understand, SYS gets their servers from OVH when they're retired/decommissioned, then Kimsufi gets theirs from SYS under the same conditions. | 
        
	| 16:22 | VanessaE | so it's basically as you go from one to the next, the servers get faster and more expensive. | 
        
	| 16:23 | VanessaE | you know, different market segments. | 
        
	| 16:23 | TommyTreasure | 42/month is out of my budget though.. :( | 
        
	| 16:24 | VanessaE | so go to the $18/mo one. :) | 
        
	| 16:25 | VanessaE | (no I don't get some kind of commission, I'm just a satisfied customer :) ) | 
        
	| 16:26 | TommyTreasure | the reason my current one gave was that their "OpenVZ 6" was at end of life, and they wouldn't be renewing | 
        
	| 16:29 | sfan5 | OpenVZ 7 exists though, so sounds like unwillingness to continue | 
        
	| 16:29 | TommyTreasure | i guess they make much more profit in their web hosting part of the business, than on their vps part | 
        
	| 16:32 | rubenwardy | I use the $18 kimsufi  it performs worse than a VPS | 
        
	| 16:32 | rubenwardy | Because it's a HDD | 
        
	| 16:33 | TommyTreasure | i've had zero issues with ipxcore, exept for one of my own mistake | 
        
	| 16:34 | TommyTreasure | in fact, i have 2 accounts with them | 
        
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	| 16:36 | VanessaE | rubenwardy: spoiled by SSDs too, eh? ;) | 
        
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	| 16:40 | TommyTreasure | hmmm, seems my provider also offeres kvm services too.  now i'm totally confused on their notice to me | 
        
	| 16:40 | TommyTreasure | so confused, i can't spell either except nor offers  :) | 
        
	| 16:41 | sfan5 | sounds like they are only removing part of their vps offerings | 
        
	| 16:41 | sfan5 | since KVM is an alternative technology to OpenVZ | 
        
	| 16:41 | TommyTreasure | time to open a ticket with them and find out.  thanks for the input and info though | 
        
	| 16:43 | TommyTreasure | maybe not so affordable though, i'd have to add additional disk space. would probably double my cost | 
        
	| 17:33 | rubenwardy | tags on CDB are now searchable -  https://content.minetest.net/packages/?tag=environment | 
        
	| 17:36 | Krock | Celebration! | 
        
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	| 17:49 | rubenwardy | Minetest is currently featured on the snap store: https://snapcraft.io/store | 
        
	| 17:51 | Krock | cool | 
        
	| 18:27 | sfan5 | it even has 5.2.0, how nice | 
        
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	| 18:28 | Krock | faster than AUR | 
        
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	| 23:23 | * Sokomine | expresses her dislike for aliases | 
        
	| 23:30 | rubenwardy | :'( | 
        
	| 23:34 | Sokomine | make that a severe dislike | 
        
	| 23:35 | Sokomine | i do like realtest, and i want to support wuzzys new version of it. but..somehow..the alias problem got more severe there for my mods | 
        
	| 23:35 | Sokomine | handle_schematics often works on content_ids...which is very bad if the node as such does not exist | 
        
	| 23:38 | Sokomine | well...at least there's some slow progress now.... | 
        
	| 23:44 | rubenwardy | get_content_ids should work on aliases | 
        
	| 23:48 | Sokomine | doesn't seem to do it. had several crashes with that |