| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 06:31 |
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| 11:02 |
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| 14:50 |
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| 14:57 |
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| 14:57 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - FreeBSD or Ubuntu 12.10 64-Bit |
| 14:58 |
PilzAdam |
Ubuntu +1 |
| 14:58 |
thexyz |
wtf |
| 14:59 |
thexyz |
why you aren't comparing ubuntu with stone? |
| 15:00 |
thexyz |
i guess that comparsion would has as much sense as yours |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
thexyz - hey, its just make for updates |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
beats me, I haven't used freebsd since the 90's I think it was |
| 15:02 |
thexyz |
? |
| 15:02 |
thexyz |
nobody uses freebsd |
| 15:04 |
Jordach |
feckin linuxarians |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
change of subject: what's the image order for textures= in an entity? |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
same as a regular cube, right? |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
(+y, -y, +x, -x, +z, -z ?) |
| 15:09 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 15:10 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 15:10 |
PilzAdam |
depends on drawtyoe |
| 15:10 |
PilzAdam |
*drawtype |
| 15:10 |
VanessaE |
these are drawn as a cube. |
| 15:10 |
VanessaE |
(I'm adding textures to something jeija is working on) |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - embrace something other than craziness |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
thexyz - no i want to be free and not attached to gpl |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - bsd is almost wtfpl |
| 15:15 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 15:15 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 15:15 |
thexyz |
in which way are you attached to gpl? |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
no distributing bins |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
it sucks |
| 15:15 |
thexyz |
what? |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
binaries |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
bleh |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
esp. if im going to do coding |
| 15:16 |
thexyz |
and what's problem here? |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
and open source my stuff |
| 15:16 |
thexyz |
aaaand? |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
i want to provide a already done binary without having to goto downloads on github |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
(and provide a win bin for them) |
| 15:17 |
thexyz |
aaaaand why can't you do that? |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
because fuck gpl |
| 15:17 |
thexyz |
it seems you don't understand gpl |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
bas is approx 100x faster - NO DRIVERS IN KERNEL |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
s/bas/bsd |
| 15:18 |
thexyz |
yes, you are right here |
| 15:18 |
thexyz |
BSD = no drivers |
| 15:18 |
thexyz |
period |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
noinononononono |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
you do not understand bsd |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
i can start with stable v1 and go straight to current without problems |
| 15:19 |
thexyz |
maybe |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
can your linux do that? |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
without dying? |
| 15:19 |
thexyz |
do what? |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
update from v1 to the -dev without failing |
| 15:19 |
thexyz |
umm... |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
im talking of the 1990 kernel |
| 15:19 |
thexyz |
my gentoo does not have any -dev packages |
| 15:20 |
Jordach |
gentoo is alright |
| 15:20 |
thexyz |
oh, nice |
| 15:20 |
thexyz |
let's talk about features nobody will use |
| 15:20 |
Jordach |
alright |
| 15:20 |
thexyz |
anyway, that's up to you to choose your OS |
| 15:20 |
thexyz |
i just wanted to say that you don't understand gpl |
| 15:20 |
thexyz |
gpl doesn't stop you from releasing binaries |
| 15:21 |
thexyz |
and you don't have to use gpl if you're coding your project in linux-based distro |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
no i mean the os if i fix something major and wish to release |
| 15:23 |
thexyz |
and what's problem here? |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
no idea maybe im just a little cloudy |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - would 64bit ubuntu work on a p4? |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
if newer than 2004 I guess yeah |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
2006 cedar mill (i think) |
| 15:25 |
VanessaE |
dunno for sure, I use AMD. |
| 15:25 |
VanessaE |
2006 is probably fine...try it? :-) |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
lga775 |
| 15:26 |
thexyz |
Jordach: do cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
WIN32 |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
DUH |
| 15:27 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
VanessaE INTEL P4 Presscott |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE |
just try it :-) |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
em64t |
| 15:30 |
* Jordach |
waits for download of ubuntu to finish |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
I *assume* you grabbed 12.04 AMD64. :-() |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 15:30 |
Jordach |
AMD? |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
x86_64 |
| 15:30 |
Jordach |
ohhh |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
(same thing now, AMD64 is the same thing now) |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
HAH! |
| 15:30 |
Jordach |
yeah my gpu is 64bit on a 32 os so yep, im 64bit cpu |
| 15:31 |
Jordach |
why didnt MS go x64 when it came out? |
| 15:31 |
VanessaE |
Oh did I mention that I work for the Department of Redundancy Department? I'm in charge of dealing with excess overages and surplus extras. |
| 15:31 |
VanessaE |
eh, too much i386/x86 legacy |
| 15:31 |
VanessaE |
too much inertia, you know |
| 15:33 |
Jordach |
yep |
| 15:46 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - redundancy? |
| 15:57 |
Jordach |
96%done |
| 15:59 |
Jordach |
verifying |
| 16:02 |
Jordach |
i as right about em64t |
| 16:02 |
Jordach |
thats 64birt |
| 16:04 |
Jordach |
VanessaE http://pastebin.com/hbbMB9JX |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
*shrug* I ain't no expert on CPUs :-) |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
yet another reason to avoid intel ;) |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
my last tower was amd |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
blew the psu |
| 16:08 |
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| 16:08 |
Jordach |
sse1 running sse2 instructions bridghe |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
at 1.2ghz (duron) |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
bbl |
| 16:09 |
Jordach |
(testing) |
| 16:16 |
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| 16:16 |
jordach-tab |
almost there :-) |
| 16:38 |
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| 16:48 |
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| 16:52 |
jordach-tab |
vanessae, installed fine unity3d is laggin me out |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
solution: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
then log out and back in with XFCE |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
traditional desktop metaphor restored. :-) |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
jordach-tab: time to download debian |
| 16:55 |
jordach-tab |
no. :-) |
| 16:56 |
* jordach-tab |
stays smug about bsd being better :-) |
| 16:57 |
thexyz |
have you tried it? |
| 16:57 |
thexyz |
(because i haven't) |
| 16:57 |
jordach-tab |
now, we find out. |
| 16:59 |
jordach-tab |
bsd is kde but better |
| 16:59 |
thexyz |
wtf |
| 17:00 |
jordach-tab |
kernel is way different, but the ui is kde :-) |
| 17:01 |
jordach-tab |
FUCK. |
| 17:02 |
jordach-tab |
one reboot later, the ui appears :-) |
| 17:02 |
jordach-tab |
damn you unity |
| 17:09 |
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| 17:09 |
jordach |
better |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
what is? |
| 17:11 |
jordach |
its all working now |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
and "all" is..what? |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
some kde knockoff, or XFCE goodness? ;-) |
| 17:15 |
jordach |
unity works |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
ew. |
| 17:21 |
jordach |
aaaaaaaannnnndddddd? |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
I'm strictly a desktop user. the tablet metaphor of unity just does not work on the desktop IMHO. |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
on tablets/phones, sure I guess |
| 17:22 |
jordach |
I OWN A TABLET |
| 17:24 |
* jordach |
tries minetest - HOLY SHIT |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
oh. |
| 17:27 |
jordach |
oh christ 64bit is fast |
| 17:27 |
* jordach |
needs to get used to this |
| 17:29 |
jordach |
64 is like red bull |
| 17:29 |
jordach |
s/64/64bit |
| 17:33 |
jordach |
VanessaE - my server will be up in a min :D |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
busy right now.. |
| 17:34 |
jordach |
just saying |
| 17:58 |
jordach |
mt runs at a rock steady 40fpd |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
yes, significant improvement in 0.4.3 |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
I saw a 10 or 15fps gain |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
with 521px textures yet |
| 18:08 |
jordach |
521 ? |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
512 |
| 18:12 |
jordach |
lol |
| 18:12 |
jordach |
just messin'. |
| 19:12 |
jordach |
server works |
| 19:12 |
jordach |
girlfriend tested |