IRC log for #minetest, 2012-08-22

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00:14	bas080_	Minetest server not working makes me sad
00:15	_2cool_	Website is up, forum is down
00:15	bas080_	intresting. database issue. Hacked?
00:16	bas080_	Or maintenance?
00:16	_2cool_	Don't think so
00:16	_2cool_	Went down
00:45	leo_rockway	http server is down. DB is okay.
00:46	leo_rockway	that's what VanessaE said earlier, that celeron said.
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01:23	vicscandl	/win 5
01:23	vicscandl	hahaha
01:25	NakedFury	hey
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01:57	khonkhortisan	hhahaha konversation has a dirt background now
01:58	khonkhortisan	papyrus looks nice
01:59	GTRsdk	which forum software did the minetest forums use?
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02:00	GTRsdk	ah punbb
02:00	vicscandl	aye
02:00	vicscandl	was looking itup
02:00	khonkhortisan	Âµc-delayer clocks aren't persistant between server restarts
02:02	vicscandl	khonkhortisan: how is the clock data being stored?
02:02	vicscandl	obv. it is not, or this would not happen. :)
02:03	vicscandl	{{not familiar with code, but do lots of forensics daily}}
02:03	khonkhortisan	well I have a delayer and a Âµc programmed to be NOT, so the wires keep switching. The delayer uses an on_timer I think and the other data is just whether the wires are on
02:03	khonkhortisan	no it uses minetest.after
02:04	vicscandl	i'm going to go with "ask jeija"
02:04	vicscandl	hrm... funny you should say mintest after...
02:05	khonkhortisan	why?
02:06	vicscandl	http://bit.ly/PbXu2d
02:06	vicscandl	was just reviewing this commit...
02:08	vicscandl	{{no real correlation to your issue, just kinda funny to me}}
02:09	khonkhortisan	I see that param in the luadoc
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02:09	NakedFury	what you mean: what a coincidence that you mention what im reviewing
02:09	vicscandl	NakedFury: yea, could not spell coincidence correctly...
02:09	vicscandl	thx
02:10	vicscandl	ok, lets see if my latest batch of memory fixes borks with VanessaE's 512 texture pack...
02:13	NakedFury	what is in a memory fix? in general.
02:14	vicscandl	well, i've been writing code for over 30 years; i've seen my share of it
02:14	vicscandl	i've worked in many industries, including gaming...
02:14	vicscandl	i'm a project manager and i review code daily in my real job.
02:14	vicscandl	ie: i teach n00b's how to be real programmers.
02:15	vicscandl	so i've been going thru the code and finding some "issues" that i'm taking cracks at to try and see about trimming the memory and cpu usage of the current build...
02:15	vicscandl	there seems to be some memory leaks somewhere... i'm gonna play mario bros on this shit.
02:16	vicscandl	all client stuff... most of my fixes to date are client based, not server... :)
02:24	NakedFury	how do you spot something that "leaks" memory?
02:25	vicscandl	experience, honestly.
02:25	vicscandl	ie: i've seen other things that leak due to how the code is set up.
02:25	vicscandl	if i see similar code "issues", i change and am testing...
02:26	vicscandl	found some static variables that should not be and shit
02:26	NakedFury	so it mostly comes to experience in coding?
02:26	vicscandl	for me, yes.
02:26	vicscandl	i started coding at 8yo, i'm 38+
02:27	NakedFury	wow
02:28	vicscandl	my old man is an EE nerd, computers have been around my house for ages.
02:28	vicscandl	:)
02:28	vicscandl	one of my first was a TI-99 that was only a 16 char LCD output breadboard that we built.
02:29	khonkhortisan	it took me eight hours to notice my pull request was merged
02:29	vicscandl	nice!
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02:31	NakedFury	what did you do khonkor?
02:31	khonkhortisan	I built a mesecon keyboard that displays letters in TI-84 font
02:31	NakedFury	I know that, I meant the pull request
02:31	khonkhortisan	I made the microcontrollers display their programming just like a sign
02:33	khonkhortisan	I'm going to assume that a TI-99 isn't a calculator produced by texas instruments
02:33	vicscandl	no, its a computer
02:34	vicscandl	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti-99
02:34	vicscandl	thats right you kids, we had a WHOPPING 32k to program in... eat a dick
02:35	vicscandl	spending 3 hours to trim 12 bytes of asm code because you ran out.
02:36	vicscandl	wikipedia: "The TI-99/4A had a 16-bit TMS9900 CPU running at 3.0 MHz"
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03:28	cornernote	hi
03:28	cornernote	who broke the forums ?
03:28	khonkhortisan	hello edgenote
03:29	khonkhortisan	they've been down for a while
03:29	MiJyn	no, it's actually a very specialized hacker team who didn't like c55 :P
03:29	cornernote	someone should check the mysql server at 10.8.0.26 on port 110
03:29	cornernote	who runs mysql on port 110 anyway ?
03:30	vicscandl	isn't 110 pop?
03:30	MiJyn	lol yeah
03:31	cornernote	and who leaves their debug messages on in production =)
03:31	khonkhortisan	someone that expects it to break
03:31	MiJyn	(me)
03:32	cornernote	thats why you have a log
03:32	vicscandl	cornernote: hahaha, i said that the other day too
03:33	cornernote	warning: could not connect to payment gateway http://yoursecuresite.com using username: yourusername and password: yourpassword
03:33	cornernote	believe it or not, i have seen a production site do that
03:33	MiJyn	I think I have done that once (except "password hash")
03:34	cornernote	any error not intended for the user should not be displayed in a production system
03:34	cornernote	debug, output all the junk you want... but if DEBUG==0 then user should see a blank page instead of a serious error
03:35	khonkhortisan	y'all are typing on papyrus http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=48ee724
03:35	MiJyn	believe it or not, I saw some websites using "reset your password" actually give the password instead asking for a new one
03:35	cornernote	MiJin, i see that all the time =(
03:35	cornernote	they email your password in plain text
03:35	cornernote	which means they store it in plain text
03:35	MiJyn	exactly
03:36	MiJyn	"oh, we _never_ look at the passwords... never... even if it's right in our reach..."
03:36	cornernote	khonkhortisan lol
03:36	khonkhortisan	which means they have the password to other sites the unsuspecting user uses
03:36	cornernote	even if the password is hashed, most sites dont do it right
03:37	cornernote	needs to be salted (using a long enough salt to avoid dictionary attacks)
03:37	cornernote	many just md5(pass)
03:37	MiJyn	whats the point of a salt again?
03:38	cornernote	say your password is "pass123", encrypted version (with a salt) is different every time
03:38	cornernote	so my pass and your pass can be the same (pass123), but in DB they are different strings
03:38	khonkhortisan	is the salt stored next to the password?
03:38	cornernote	sometimes
03:38	MiJyn	ah
03:39	cornernote	salt can be something like the username, or user created date
03:39	cornernote	or a random number
03:39	khonkhortisan	or md5 of all user data minus the password
03:39	MiJyn	right
03:39	khonkhortisan	you changed your profile picture? Sorry, we can't access your password anymore.
03:39	cornernote	heres a good article from a friend who found a minor hole in popular php ecommerce salts: http://openquery.com/blog/oneway-password-crypting-flaws
03:41	MiJyn	"minor"?
03:41	cornernote	the problem with that salt, is it only makes 256 variations... so i just need 256 dictionaries + the user table, then i can decode every users password
03:42	cornernote	i think its minor, because you still need access to the user table
03:42	cornernote	and if you have access to that, you probably dont need to login as a user anyway =)
03:43	cornernote	but perhaps they found an sql injection, got the password hashes... then they can use this flaw to learn the user passwords
03:43	cornernote	now i use this - http://www.openwall.com/phpass/
03:44	cornernote	its described here -- http://www.openwall.com/articles/PHP-Users-Passwords
03:45	cornernote	they not only salt, but they stretch
03:46	cornernote	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_strengthening
03:51	cornernote	reading scriptapi.cpp -- you can set your own auth function -- get_auth
03:51	khonkhortisan	my website would be suseptible to "forced browsing" if I had anything important on it
03:52	cornernote	hello openid
03:53	cornernote	ahh, its in builtin/auth.lua
03:56	cornernote	ok, only some handler functions are exposed, i think the hashing is done in c++
04:01	cornernote	the hash is in translatePassword() .. but i cant find that function defined
04:02	cornernote	ahh, string.cpp
04:02	cornernote	no salt
04:07	cornernote	created an issue for it - https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/221
04:11	khonkhortisan	clearing with worldedit caused it to generate a cave
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04:21	orbitaldecay	any word on when the forum will be back up?
04:22	khonkhortisan	falling sand destroys circuits
04:23	orbitaldecay	indeed
04:25	MiJyn	:(
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05:07	* VanessaE	wanders in
05:23	VanessaE	yay! forums are back
05:31	VanessaE	make up my mind! :-)
05:53	khonkhortisan	ItalicCoder
05:53	VanessaE	hey khonkhortisan.
05:53	khonkhortisan	hello
05:54	khonkhortisan	I'm trying to get worldedit to not unprogram ÂµCs when moving them
06:02	VanessaE	oh good
06:03	VanessaE	I'm sure a lot of people will want to be able to move their circuits around or distribute them in worldedit form instead of a zip of world files
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07:09	GTRsdk	So what do you think of remotely controlling a minetest server with a web panel?
07:16	RealBadAngel	hi
07:16	RealBadAngel	VanessaE: youre here?
07:18	VanessaE	no
07:18	VanessaE	I'm over THERE ------->
07:18	VanessaE	;)
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07:21	VanessaE	hey Trollinou ;-)
07:23	RealBadAngel	hehehe
07:24	RealBadAngel	you named grate with "intake"
07:24	VanessaE	yes
07:24	VanessaE	seemed to make more sense
07:24	RealBadAngel	and what about output one?
07:24	VanessaE	storage_tank_{x or z}
07:25	RealBadAngel	either drop "intake" or make output one too
07:25	VanessaE	mmm
07:25	VanessaE	the sort of grating used for intake doesn't seem to make sense as an outlet
07:25	RealBadAngel	coz now we r missin one element
07:25	VanessaE	maybe I'll make a short segment of pipe for that?
07:26	VanessaE	or can you just make any unconnected pipe act as an output perhaps?
07:27	VanessaE	(just designate the 100000/010000/001000/000100/000010/000001 pipes as outputs)
07:27	RealBadAngel	hmmm, not a good idea
07:27	VanessaE	hm
07:27	RealBadAngel	i thought to use grate as input output, dep on the side of pump is connected to
07:28	RealBadAngel	but you named it intake :)
07:29	RealBadAngel	and because of the rules i took, i need somethin different than just a pipe
07:29	RealBadAngel	pipes are conductors
07:29	VanessaE	lemme think about it a bit
07:29	VanessaE	but,
07:29	RealBadAngel	outtake grate?
07:29	VanessaE	surely the six "stubs" can't be conductors?
07:30	VanessaE	they can't connect anywhere without a nearby pipe to connec tto
07:30	RealBadAngel	look, when im calculatin flow
07:30	RealBadAngel	i take positions of 2 elements in the network connected by pipes
07:31	RealBadAngel	ie grate and pump, pump and tank
07:31	RealBadAngel	cant just at some point use a pipe as output
07:31	RealBadAngel	it will break whole system
07:31	VanessaE	yes but the little stubs aren't pipes :-)
07:31	VanessaE	they're stubs :-)
07:32	VanessaE	but,
07:32	VanessaE	I'll make something
07:32	RealBadAngel	hmmm
07:32	RealBadAngel	grate for me is also logical as output
07:33	VanessaE	I'll copy the intake and call the result "outlet"
07:33	RealBadAngel	:) and thats ok with me :)
07:33	VanessaE	that way they can be modeled differently later on
07:33	RealBadAngel	sure
07:34	RealBadAngel	i just made pipeline with like 600 pipes and 50 valwes for testin
07:34	VanessaE	wow
07:35	RealBadAngel	wanted to check if it can have any influence on FPS
07:35	RealBadAngel	to have such enormous wire/pipes system
07:35	RealBadAngel	works ok
07:36	VanessaE	it will be called "pipeworks:outlet" and will connect only from the top like an intake does
07:36	RealBadAngel	k
07:37	RealBadAngel	i found a good usage for the pipelines already
07:37	RealBadAngel	i will use it to cool down my nuclear reactors
07:39	RealBadAngel	when you will fail with it, reactor will overheat
07:39	VanessaE	NICE
07:39	VanessaE	stand by, testing the changes
07:39	RealBadAngel	and finally make a nice deep hole
07:41	VanessaE	note to self: it would help if I copy the changes over to where my install of minetest can see them
07:41	RealBadAngel	hehehe
07:41	RealBadAngel	i dont know how you do it, i mean with github
07:42	RealBadAngel	i made two installs of minetest
07:42	RealBadAngel	sandbox and release
07:42	RealBadAngel	when tests are done, move mod from sandbox
07:43	VanessaE	changes pushed.
07:43	RealBadAngel	github is configured to catch release directory
07:43	VanessaE	(obviously it seems to work at least as well as anything else does at this point)
07:43	RealBadAngel	so i just joined my old ways and github together
07:44	VanessaE	cool
07:44	VanessaE	ok I gotta run
07:44	VanessaE	bedtime :-)
07:44	VanessaE	see you in some hours
07:44	RealBadAngel	hehe, ok
07:44	RealBadAngel	c ya
07:44	VanessaE	in the meantime, the outlet is now in the repos, so merge that damn pull request already ;-)
07:44	VanessaE	night
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11:02	VanessaE	good morning all
11:02	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: poke
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11:04	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
11:05	VanessaE	hey PilzAdam
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11:40	RealBadAngel	hi
11:41	RealBadAngel	whassup VanessaE?
11:41	VanessaE	guten morgen :-)
11:41	VanessaE	not much, just crawled out of bed about an hour ago
11:41	VanessaE	and you still haven't merged that pull request :D
11:41	* VanessaE	ducks
11:41	RealBadAngel	hier ist abend schon ;)
11:42	RealBadAngel	im usin your repository
11:42	VanessaE	ah ok
11:42	RealBadAngel	havent paid too much attention to github, configured it and its on the shelf
11:43	RealBadAngel	addin now needed stuff to the mod
11:43	RealBadAngel	im missin some essential things
11:43	VanessaE	is the outlet grate et.al to your liking?
11:44	RealBadAngel	havent checked the outlet yet
11:44	VanessaE	ok
11:44	RealBadAngel	gimme a minute
11:46	RealBadAngel	imho perfect
11:46	VanessaE	good :)
11:46	RealBadAngel	distinct and cool lookin, both of them
11:46	RealBadAngel	please consider grates done :)
11:47	VanessaE	done for now anyway :D
11:47	RealBadAngel	dont even try to fix them
11:47	RealBadAngel	theyre cool
11:47	RealBadAngel	dont DARE to fix them even
11:48	VanessaE	later on when my artsy-creative side is in force, I'll start working up nice-looking models for the other stuff
11:48	RealBadAngel	k, the tanks shall have at least 10 models
11:49	RealBadAngel	to show how many fluids is stored inside
11:49	RealBadAngel	from empty to full, 10% step
11:49	VanessaE	stand by
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11:51	RealBadAngel	btw, with this single variable, anythin youre adding, fits the network
11:51	RealBadAngel	without any changes
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11:52	RealBadAngel	built net with over 600 pipes and other elements and all is workin realtime
11:52	VanessaE	NICE
11:52	VanessaE	brb
11:52	VanessaE	working on the tank.
11:52	* RealBadAngel	is on stand by mode
11:54	RealBadAngel	btw we havent thought bout what kind material the pipes are built of?
11:54	VanessaE	steel
11:54	RealBadAngel	corrosion
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11:54	RealBadAngel	rust
11:54	VanessaE	stainless steel
11:55	RealBadAngel	how do we get ss?
11:55	VanessaE	maybe smelt a steel ingot into stainless? I dunno
11:55	Calinou	poor RealBadAngel asks for super shotgun in minetest
11:55	Calinou	:p
11:55	VanessaE	or maybe we just don't care about the idea of rust etc
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11:55	RealBadAngel	shotgun?
11:56	RealBadAngel	hi calinou
11:56	Calinou	nevermind :P
11:56	RealBadAngel	we r talkin pipes :P
11:57	* Calinou	is downloading a windows build of chromium
11:57	Calinou	irony: using google chrome to download chromium
11:57	RealBadAngel	lol
11:58	RealBadAngel	got the ss idea: its an alloy
11:58	RealBadAngel	chromium is in :)
11:58	Calinou	lol
11:58	Calinou	BackupCoder is on IRC as root
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11:58	RealBadAngel	In metallurgy, stainless steel, also known as inox steel or inox from French "inoxydable", is defined as a steel alloy with a minimum of 10.5%[1] to 11% chromium content by mass
11:59	Calinou	wikipedia much
11:59	RealBadAngel	yes, another reason for me to finish alloy furnace damn
12:02	Calinou	haha, chrome is version 21, chromium is 23
12:07	Calinou	http://minetest.net/forum
12:07	Calinou	222 topics in feature discussion
12:07	Calinou	444 in bugs
12:08	Calinou	lol
12:08	PilzAdam	there should be 404 topics in bugs and problems
12:08	PilzAdam	moderators should delete 40 :)
12:08	RealBadAngel	lol
12:09	RealBadAngel	btw Calinou, you were right with "rainbow caves"
12:10	RealBadAngel	sdzen installed gloop ores on the server
12:10	Calinou	PilzAdam, 404 topic not found :p
12:10	* Calinou	finished installing chromium, btw
12:10	Calinou	google lost 29 dollars :D
12:10	PilzAdam	firefox
12:11	Calinou	chromium lacks flash unfortunately :/
12:11	Calinou	only use for it is speedtest anyway
12:12	RealBadAngel	now the caves are full of funny stuff, with funny names, and you have no glue what that shit is for. even names tell nothin
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12:24	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: give that a try.
12:25	VanessaE	11 tanks, pipeworks:storage_tank_F_{x or z} where F = some number 0 to 10.
12:25	VanessaE	e.g. pipeworks:storage_tank_5_z
12:25	VanessaE	and so on
12:25	VanessaE	all participate in the autoplace algo like usual.
12:26	RealBadAngel	oke, downloading it
12:27	VanessaE	also each tank is in group tankfill=F+1 where F = the tank number, so you can use that to categorize them if needed.
12:27	VanessaE	(e.g. a 50% full tank is group tankfill=6)
12:32	VanessaE	another tweak just went in
12:32	RealBadAngel	i can c just old brown model
12:32	VanessaE	in creative inventory, that is all you should see
12:32	RealBadAngel	nope, nothin
12:32	RealBadAngel	just the old one
12:32	VanessaE	then re-download :-)
12:34	VanessaE	the new model shows a green/black bar on the right of its front side
12:34	RealBadAngel	now i get it
12:34	VanessaE	(which I tried to make look like glass)
12:35	RealBadAngel	can see the bar
12:35	VanessaE	ok
12:38	RealBadAngel	removed creative=1 for a while
12:38	RealBadAngel	cool
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12:38	RealBadAngel	hi sdzen
12:38	VanessaE	that what you were looking for? :-)
12:38	VanessaE	hey sdzen
12:38	sdzen	ello
12:38	RealBadAngel	yeah, its fine, maybe the coulour just
12:39	RealBadAngel	to be stainless stell
12:39	RealBadAngel	the model is ok
12:39	VanessaE	eh
12:39	VanessaE	ok
12:39	VanessaE	gimme a minute
12:40	RealBadAngel	fill indicator is cool
12:44	VanessaE	stand by
12:47	RealBadAngel	btw have you found some time to listen to the skaven's compilation?
12:48	VanessaE	no sorry
12:48	VanessaE	soon :-)
12:48	RealBadAngel	hehehe ok
12:48	* VanessaE	tests the replacement textures
12:48	RealBadAngel	hmmm bout the tanks
12:49	RealBadAngel	i just built a few towers out of them
12:49	VanessaE	mmhmm>
12:49	VanessaE	?
12:49	RealBadAngel	each segment have side slots
12:49	VanessaE	yes
12:49	RealBadAngel	maybe just drop the slots?
12:49	VanessaE	can't do anything about that
12:49	RealBadAngel	then the towers could look better
12:50	VanessaE	in the real world, that's how it is too with such stackable modules
12:50	VanessaE	manufacturers just make one model that can go anywhere in a stack or be used separately.
12:50	RealBadAngel	right
12:51	VanessaE	there, updated the textures.
12:51	VanessaE	please re-download/.
12:51	RealBadAngel	i will have to code to exclude connections of pipes to stacked ones
12:51	VanessaE	why?
12:51	RealBadAngel	so just the bottom one
12:52	RealBadAngel	users will then end with pipes connected to every level of tower
12:52	RealBadAngel	which could be just stupid
12:52	VanessaE	besides, I'm going to re-do the tanks model just slightly, to give the fittings a raised appearance (like the pump, but far shorter, only the flange is raised)
12:53	RealBadAngel	i want bottom one as a base, with connections
12:53	RealBadAngel	upper ones will increase storage
12:54	VanessaE	fair enough
12:54	RealBadAngel	and that will be indicated with the bar
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12:54	RealBadAngel	when some1 could connect pipes to the upper one not the bottom
12:55	VanessaE	I suppose I could create an "addon" module that the autoplace algorithm could use if the user attempts to add it on top of an existing tank, but that seems weird.
12:55	RealBadAngel	indicators could run out of sense
12:55	VanessaE	(such would have only top/bottom fittings)
12:55	RealBadAngel	look, upper tank filled 100%
12:56	* VanessaE	thinks...
12:56	RealBadAngel	lower 0%
12:56	RealBadAngel	and theyre connected
12:56	VanessaE	well one assumes you'd make the fill algorithm detect when fluid needs to be "shifted down" to the lower tanks :-)
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12:56	VanessaE	else you will end up with exactly that when the user empties the bottom tank :-)
12:56	RealBadAngel	thats what im talkin about
12:57	RealBadAngel	but dont blame me i want to make it easier :)
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12:57	VanessaE	so I should create an add-on tank then?
12:57	RealBadAngel	hmmm
12:57	RealBadAngel	maybe just drop side holes?
12:57	VanessaE	base tank would have side and top fittings, add-on tanks would have top and bottom only.
12:58	VanessaE	no, that reduces piping flexibility I think
12:58	RealBadAngel	pipes could join as usual
12:58	RealBadAngel	just no visible holes
12:58	VanessaE	no
12:58	VanessaE	that looks wrong
12:58	RealBadAngel	but allows to tower them
12:58	VanessaE	"why is the pipe joining this? there's no fitting there."
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12:59	RealBadAngel	whith holes user can think, there are holes
12:59	RealBadAngel	why the heck i cant put a pipe there??
12:59	VanessaE	ok so I'll make an add-on tank with no side fittings.
12:59	Calinou	that's what she said, RealBadAngel
13:00	RealBadAngel	hehehe
13:00	VanessaE	brb
13:00	RealBadAngel	think of it this way, side holes in tanks r so perfectly done that almost invisible
13:00	RealBadAngel	:)
13:01	Basstard`	I wish she had holes in the side.
13:02	RealBadAngel	rotfl
13:02	RealBadAngel	we talkin serious stuff here
13:03	Basstard`	So am I.
13:03	RealBadAngel	i believe so
13:03	Basstard`	:)
13:06	RealBadAngel	ive done craftin and minerals for the pipes meanwhile
13:07	RealBadAngel	and the alloy furnace to do so
13:07	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: testing the changes now
13:08	RealBadAngel	steel + chromium smelted together in ratio 4:1 gives stainless steel
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13:11	RealBadAngel	now i can also override bronze crafting recipe
13:11	VanessaE	fixing the changes :D
13:12	RealBadAngel	from now on it will have to be smelted
13:13	VanessaE	ok that works
13:13	RealBadAngel	can i dl?
13:13	VanessaE	now to add a special case for trying to place one storage tank on top of another
13:13	VanessaE	or should I require them to make a special expansion tank?
13:14	VanessaE	(not that any of this has crafting recipes yet)
13:14	RealBadAngel	hmmm dont think so
13:14	VanessaE	don't think so what? :-)
13:14	RealBadAngel	since theye full node boxes next one covers lower one
13:14	VanessaE	nod
13:15	VanessaE	but I mean,
13:15	VanessaE	do I make the user build an expansion tank and place it, or do I let them just build and place a bunch of the regular tank and have the computer convert them to expansion tanks where it's needed?
13:16	VanessaE	already the fittings behave the way you suggested
13:16	RealBadAngel	lemme think a bit
13:16	VanessaE	hrm
13:16	VanessaE	maybe they shouldn't let pipes connect at all to an expansion tank?
13:17	VanessaE	but storage tank could connect pipes to all three fittings?
13:17	RealBadAngel	that was my proposal
13:17	VanessaE	(top, +x, -x)
13:17	RealBadAngel	no holes, just connections to sides
13:17	VanessaE	meh
13:17	VanessaE	that's wrong
13:17	RealBadAngel	and then no problem
13:17	VanessaE	the user will expect a visible fitting
13:18	RealBadAngel	pipe will autoconnect
13:18	VanessaE	no, I don't like that. a pipe should only ever connect to fitting
13:18	RealBadAngel	but then we could end with too many models needed
13:19	VanessaE	I've already worked them all into my autoplace routine :-)
13:19	VanessaE	just not the issue of stacked tanks
13:19	RealBadAngel	which is exaclty what im talkin about
13:19	VanessaE	now I'm confused :-)
13:20	RealBadAngel	look
13:20	RealBadAngel	make a tower of tanks
13:20	RealBadAngel	each level has holes, right?
13:20	VanessaE	no
13:20	VanessaE	I just added something to fix that :-)
13:21	RealBadAngel	hah, shall i download next ver?
13:21	VanessaE	at the bottom of the stack would be pipeworks:storage_tank_{x or z}
13:21	VanessaE	er 'scuse me
13:21	RealBadAngel	check routine wont go further up
13:22	VanessaE	at the bottom of the stack will be pipeworks:storage_tank_{number}_{x or z}
13:22	RealBadAngel	that will carry just fillin up routine
13:22	VanessaE	anything placed on top of it will be pipeworks:expansion_tank_{number}
13:22	VanessaE	(no X/Z)
13:22	RealBadAngel	clear
13:22	VanessaE	the bottom of the stack has fittings at +X, -X, and +Y.
13:22	VanessaE	the others have fittings only at +Y and -Y
13:23	RealBadAngel	what if user place one BELOW?
13:23	VanessaE	well,
13:23	VanessaE	the logical thing would be,
13:24	VanessaE	for the user to only get "storage tank" and have the computer check above/below, converting between the two types of tanks as needed
13:24	VanessaE	which means the user has to only manage one single type of device for this purpose.
13:24	VanessaE	such a routine would be trivial I guess
13:24	RealBadAngel	or just dont allow buildin towers downwards
13:25	VanessaE	hm
13:25	RealBadAngel	level connected with pipes is zero level, can go only up
13:25	RealBadAngel	no matter whats below
13:26	VanessaE	hrm
13:26	VanessaE	so the user has to remove the bottom tank, dig a hole, place it there, than add a tank on top of it between it and the rest of the stack?
13:26	RealBadAngel	no
13:26	RealBadAngel	at zero level, ground level or whatever
13:27	RealBadAngel	tank, pipes are placed, right?
13:27	VanessaE	mostly
13:27	RealBadAngel	now the user tries to do somethin stupid
13:27	RealBadAngel	he digs a hole under tower
13:27	VanessaE	(I'm trying to allow for aerial pipes as well, e.g. an oil refinery or pipes-screensaver sort of appearance)
13:27	RealBadAngel	and tries to place another tank there
13:28	RealBadAngel	my vote is to dont even look at it
13:28	VanessaE	hrm
13:29	RealBadAngel	then when some1 will come and ask i made somethin stupid and it didnt worked
13:29	RealBadAngel	the answer will be clear
13:29	VanessaE	so only scan downwards when placing a tank. if ~= storage or expansion tank, place storage tank with side fittings. else place expansion tank with top/bottom fittings only
13:30	RealBadAngel	yes
13:30	VanessaE	ok
13:30	RealBadAngel	only up
13:30	VanessaE	right, they can only stack upwards
13:30	VanessaE	now.
13:30	VanessaE	what about connecting a PIPE to one of those top/bottom fittings?
13:31	RealBadAngel	dont allow
13:31	VanessaE	not even for the base storage tank?
13:31	RealBadAngel	just the base
13:31	RealBadAngel	not the expansions
13:31	VanessaE	ok.
13:31	RealBadAngel	once one will have connecions it shall become base
13:31	* VanessaE	makes the appropriate tweaks
13:32	RealBadAngel	and then only way is up
13:32	RealBadAngel	next pieces will then become stackable kind
13:32	RealBadAngel	with no other possible connections just the up/down tower
13:33	VanessaE	ok
13:34	RealBadAngel	all is clear?
13:34	VanessaE	as mud ;-)
13:34	RealBadAngel	lol
13:35	* RealBadAngel	tries to run a pump to have some fresh and clear water and clarify that muddish situaton ;)
13:37	RealBadAngel	ok, i have stainless still here
13:37	VanessaE	stand by
13:38	RealBadAngel	waitin for ideas for pipe crafting recipes
13:38	RealBadAngel	*steel
13:38	Basstard`	I hope you replicate our world as close as possible.
13:39	RealBadAngel	you bet, you will b able to go to the bar round the corner and have a beer
13:39	RealBadAngel	any more questions?
13:42	VanessaE	ok, now let's see what THIS breaks :-)
13:42	Basstard`	The levee.
13:44	VanessaE	nope, just a tank or two ;)
13:45	VanessaE	ok that works
13:45	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: now here's a question.
13:46	VanessaE	what SHOULD happen if the user places one tank and then another right below the first?
13:46	VanessaE	(at present, the newly-placed tank becomes a regular tank and the one above remains unchanged)
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13:47	RealBadAngel	if the one above has pipes connection (is a base)
13:48	VanessaE	nod
13:48	RealBadAngel	then puttin one below should do nothin
13:48	VanessaE	"do nothing" as in...?
13:48	RealBadAngel	wont connect, wont count
13:48	VanessaE	ok
13:48	VanessaE	so it looks like a separate tank on the circuit?
13:49	RealBadAngel	yes
13:49	VanessaE	ok
13:49	VanessaE	so the user connects pipes to it like usual, it just won't participate in the rest of the stack above it
13:49	RealBadAngel	and the circuit wont even check it
13:49	VanessaE	ehh...
13:49	RealBadAngel	i will use pipelike to check it
13:49	RealBadAngel	look
13:49	VanessaE	ok
13:50	RealBadAngel	once i find object tank with pipelike=1
13:50	RealBadAngel	i will go there with tank routine
13:50	RealBadAngel	and will look just up
13:50	VanessaE	ok
13:50	RealBadAngel	dont care whats below
13:51	RealBadAngel	pipe will lead me to the base
13:51	VanessaE	so it just won't add to the stuff above, but it will still store fluids if pipes are connected to it
13:52	RealBadAngel	look
13:52	VanessaE	and your algorithm will only look for expansion tanks above a base too
13:53	RealBadAngel	yes
13:53	VanessaE	ok
13:53	VanessaE	ok
13:53	RealBadAngel	and consider that
13:53	RealBadAngel	1st placed tank can carry pipelike=1
13:53	VanessaE	Text output suppressed: last message repeated 37 times.
13:53	VanessaE	;)
13:53	RealBadAngel	means is able to connecto to pipes
13:54	RealBadAngel	put another ones with pipelike=0
13:54	RealBadAngel	no more possible pipe connections
13:54	VanessaE	got it
13:55	RealBadAngel	when on y-1 is tank, pipelike=0
13:55	RealBadAngel	and we got everythin solved
13:56	VanessaE	ok
13:56	VanessaE	changes uploaded.
13:56	VanessaE	give it a try :-)
13:56	VanessaE	give yourself pipeworks:storage_tank_0_x 99
13:56	VanessaE	and stack them up :-)
13:58	RealBadAngel	in a few minutes, transport came, have to send the package
13:58	RealBadAngel	brb
13:59	VanessaE	you know, if you were particularly ambitious, you could make technic check the tanks electronically and do something interesting if one is full enough
13:59	VanessaE	(like actuate a valve or so)
14:00	VanessaE	:)
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14:00	Basstard`	With steam.
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14:01	_2cool_	Anyone here?
14:01	VanessaE	hi
14:01	Basstard`	We're all there.
14:01	_2cool_	It's been so quiet around here...
14:02	sdzen	you must have broken it
14:02	Calinou	hi _2cool_
14:03	_2cool_	hello
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14:04	_2cool_	I wish I could get minecraft sometime, but I don't see the point in paying nearly $30 for it.
14:05	Isabella	yeah minetest is free :D
14:05	_2cool_	Yep
14:05	VanessaE	screw proprietary software
14:05	VanessaE	FOSS FTW. :-)
14:05	_2cool_	But Minetest has to find a new direction to turn in before Mojang sends a C&D
14:06	Basstard`	They won't.
14:06	RealBadAngel	@vanessa: lets make the basic system work, then we can take care of overflows
14:06	VanessaE	ok
14:06	Isabella	i think you have to get java as well, java is slow
14:06	VanessaE	s/overflows/extended features/
14:06	Basstard`	_2cool_: Us Swedes are 2 cool for that.
14:06	_2cool_	Right, Notch has made his millions
14:06	RealBadAngel	i was thinkin lately bout connectin to mesecons
14:06	VanessaE	Isabella: for minecraft yes. For minetest, no.
14:07	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: that sounds good
14:07	Isabella	how old is notch
14:07	_2cool_	RBA: wat
14:07	RealBadAngel	when full it could send logic 1
14:07	Isabella	yes i know abou tminetst,, no java
14:07	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: how about when >50% = logic 1, when <30% = logic 0, anything in between keeps the last known state
14:07	VanessaE	that's similar to TTL in the real world
14:07	RealBadAngel	fuzzy logic? lol
14:08	_2cool_	I like how Notch feels about yohoho pirates though...
14:08	VanessaE	_2cool_: lemme guess, "free publicity!!!"
14:08	VanessaE	?
14:08	_2cool_	yep
14:08	RealBadAngel	i got fuzzy logic for one semester
14:08	RealBadAngel	really fuzzy stuff lol
14:08	_2cool_	did you see the uproar about his Twitter post?
14:08	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: well I'm just thinking let's keep it TTL-like, since that's what mesecons seeks to act like anyway for the most part
14:09	_2cool_	http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/937516-notch-tells-minecraft-fan-just-pirate-it/
14:09	RealBadAngel	so 1 full
14:09	RealBadAngel	anythin other means its not full
14:09	VanessaE	no
14:09	RealBadAngel	with 0/1 there are no states like half full, half empty
14:10	_2cool_	Yep, mesecons can't be pessimistic or optimistic
14:10	VanessaE	too bad mesecons doesn't support high-Z states :-)
14:10	RealBadAngel	but its ok
14:10	VanessaE	ok fine, how about 1 = >80% full, 0 = less than full
14:10	RealBadAngel	tank will send a signal when full
14:10	VanessaE	0 = less than 80% I mean
14:11	RealBadAngel	that leaves place for non logic stuff
14:11	VanessaE	the point is you don't want to have to add a de-bounce circuit
14:11	_2cool_	if only mesecon energy would run throug water, I assume that's what you're talking about
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14:11	Basstard`	Why not random in between?
14:11	RealBadAngel	20% of who the fuck knows whats goin on
14:11	VanessaE	and if you just check on greater or less than some specific value, you'll get a ping-pong signal out of it
14:12	RealBadAngel	thats not TTLish at all :)
14:12	VanessaE	sure it is.
14:12	* _2cool_	sad
14:12	VanessaE	sorta :-)
14:12	RealBadAngel	yup, sorta
14:12	RealBadAngel	fuzzy logic thats it
14:12	VanessaE	_2cool_: naw, just talking about measuring the fill of a steel tank
14:12	RealBadAngel	not empty not full
14:12	RealBadAngel	somethin in between
14:13	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: well my point is that officially, TTL is something like <1.2v = logic 0, >2.5 = logic 1, anything in between is invalid and should be treated as "keep the last state"
14:13	RealBadAngel	ok ok
14:13	Isabella	whoever is here say aye
14:13	RealBadAngel	tell me
14:13	Isabella	aye
14:13	VanessaE	Isabella: please don't repeatedly ask that.
14:13	RealBadAngel	does mesecons support fuzzy states?
14:13	Isabella	:D
14:13	VanessaE	whoever's here will talk :-)
14:13	Isabella	i love doing that
14:13	Basstard`	If you ask someone if the glass is half full or half empty you get different answers, so, it should be random?
14:13	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: nope. logic 0 or 1.
14:13	RealBadAngel	so problem solved
14:14	RealBadAngel	1 full
14:14	RealBadAngel	but
14:14	RealBadAngel	tank will have a variable itself
14:14	RealBadAngel	HowManySourcesDoICarry
14:15	RealBadAngel	all clear now?
14:15	Isabella	how old is Notch
14:15	RealBadAngel	30+
14:15	RealBadAngel	dont know exactly
14:15	VanessaE	not sure
14:15	VanessaE	I figured mid 30's
14:15	Isabella	when did he make minecraft, like what age
14:16	VanessaE	_2cool_: I have to admit - I don't like Minecraft at all (from the videos I've seen), but I have to admire him for saying that.
14:16	RealBadAngel	first of all, minecraft nor minetest
14:16	RealBadAngel	is a thing to be called: done
14:16	Isabella	who knows Herobrine
14:16	_2cool_	It sounds like everything h***ish in Minecraft
14:16	VanessaE	Isabella: this is not a minecraft channel, we don't generally talk about the playing of that game here. Only about features etc.
14:17	_2cool_	Oh, sorry
14:17	Isabella	oh, so its minetest i guess
14:17	RealBadAngel	sometimes i do too
14:17	RealBadAngel	heheh
14:17	VanessaE	besides, herobrine is a fan-fiction in the minecraft world - he doesn't actually exist afaik.
14:17	_2cool_	I'll talk over PM if you like vanessa
14:17	Isabella	im just saying about Herobrine, its not the game
14:17	Isabella	brb
14:17	VanessaE	_2cool_: no it's okay, I'm talking about let's not make this a minecraft general discussion channel. but it's okay to talk about it in the context of a competitor :-)
14:17	RealBadAngel	exactly
14:18	RealBadAngel	we are like 0,5-1 yrs behind MC
14:18	RealBadAngel	but the acceleration is way faster
14:18	RealBadAngel	same day, next year
14:19	RealBadAngel	it can happen MC is behind us
14:19	VanessaE	I just don't want MT to become a clone of MC
14:19	_2cool_	Minecraft went in the direction of medieval and fantasy. Maybe if Minetest went a different path...
14:19	_2cool_	Which it most likely will
14:19	Isabella	cool
14:19	VanessaE	_2cool_: it will. that's c55's intent in fact.
14:19	RealBadAngel	im forcin technic way ;)
14:20	_2cool_	Hey, as long as bobblocks doesn't become default:, I'm okay
14:20	VanessaE	I LIKE bobblocks :(
14:20	RealBadAngel	but i liked one thing
14:20	_2cool_	Buyes?
14:20	_2cool_	er, yes?
14:21	RealBadAngel	minetest forum is the place with do what the fuck you want licensed content in whole net
14:21	_2cool_	wat
14:21	RealBadAngel	i think i shall change my licence to fit it :)
14:22	_2cool_	is the database back up yet?
14:22	_2cool_	YES
14:22	_2cool_	Mod finding time!
14:22	RealBadAngel	minetest community is a community of coders/moders mostly
14:22	_2cool_	not me!
14:23	_2cool_	I'm just here for moral support ;)
14:23	RealBadAngel	then learn you lazy ass :P
14:23	_2cool_	:(
14:24	RealBadAngel	believe its nothin better like the first node designed by you
14:24	RealBadAngel	the feelin is great
14:24	_2cool_	So has anyone made an adventure mod for minetest yet? :P
14:24	RealBadAngel	cornernote did
14:24	Basstard`	NetHack?
14:24	RealBadAngel	check his Skyblock
14:25	_2cool_	I was just on that too!
14:25	RealBadAngel	and Seablock in the future
14:25	_2cool_	wow
14:25	_2cool_	Cool
14:25	_2cool_	And any mobs mods other than the crashy Animals mod?
14:26	RealBadAngel	for mobs time will come
14:26	_2cool_	Hopefully in mods and not the actual game
14:27	RealBadAngel	many mods concepts goes into actual game
14:27	_2cool_	Yes, but mobs are a step towards Minecraft
14:27	RealBadAngel	we do have somethin minecraft does not have
14:27	RealBadAngel	and tryin hard to get
14:28	RealBadAngel	modding API
14:28	_2cool_	Then how DO minecraft mods work?
14:29	RealBadAngel	interfering with code
14:29	_2cool_	Sounds crashy :P
14:29	RealBadAngel	each game update causes mod to stop workin
14:29	RealBadAngel	more complex mod, more time for modder to fix it
14:29	_2cool_	Sounds like a huge problem
14:30	RealBadAngel	betweeen versions of game
14:30	RealBadAngel	for most complex mods it takes up to 2 months
14:30	RealBadAngel	for just update
14:30	_2cool_	if Notch would release mod dev updates?
14:31	RealBadAngel	Notch is not longer involved in minecraft
14:31	_2cool_	Oh
14:31	RealBadAngel	since half a year or somethin
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14:31	RealBadAngel	he has employees to do so
14:31	RealBadAngel	like Jeb
14:32	_2cool_	Then why is he still controlling the business? like telling people to pirate Minecraft?
14:32	RealBadAngel	hes a boss, doin boss stuff
14:32	_2cool_	like a boss
14:32	_2cool_	sorta
14:33	VanessaE	there, that's all done
14:33	RealBadAngel	dl?
14:33	_2cool_	what did you find out?
14:33	VanessaE	had to get dressed - got something potentially life-changing to do today :-)
14:33	_2cool_	oh
14:33	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: the mod has been waiting for you to re-download for 37 mins :-)
14:34	RealBadAngel	oh, you were naked till now? :O
14:34	VanessaE	no, not naked, just in my sleepwear.
14:34	RealBadAngel	hahahaha
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14:34	_2cool_	Well, I got to go
14:34	VanessaE	cy--...
14:34	VanessaE	ya..
14:34	RealBadAngel	new job?
14:35	VanessaE	no
14:35	VanessaE	(I'm retired anyway)
14:35	VanessaE	it's a s3kr1t :-)
14:35	RealBadAngel	uh oh
14:36	RealBadAngel	good luck anyway :)
14:36	VanessaE	thanks :-)
14:36	VanessaE	so, go download the mod already :-)
14:37	RealBadAngel	did did
14:37	VanessaE	ok get to testing :D
14:37	RealBadAngel	that zipball manner makes me nervous
14:38	VanessaE	so git pull instead
14:38	RealBadAngel	i mean necesarity to change the name
14:38	VanessaE	it's better to do that anyway
14:38	VanessaE	(why does it have to be such a pain to code in windows?)
14:38	RealBadAngel	what pain
14:39	RealBadAngel	i can feel no pain at all ;)
14:39	VanessaE	well things like git are inherently command-line-oriented (and easier to do, to that end), editors and compilers too
14:39	RealBadAngel	pain was when you saved your piece of code to tape
14:39	VanessaE	windows just doesn't come with much to help the developer get started like linux does
14:39	RealBadAngel	and the tape was broken
14:39	RealBadAngel	that was OUCH and pain
14:40	VanessaE	hey I used to do that. when I was your(kid's) age, I saved stuff to tape all the time. It took 30 minutes to save 20K and we LIKED it that way!!
14:40	VanessaE	:-)
14:40	Isabella	what
14:40	VanessaE	what what?
14:40	Isabella	what what what
14:40	RealBadAngel	look, friend of mine bought an Atari 800xl
14:40	VanessaE	my condolences.
14:41	Isabella	cool
14:41	Isabella	...
14:41	RealBadAngel	but cannot afford to buy tape recorder
14:41	RealBadAngel	so what he did
14:41	Isabella	was...
14:41	RealBadAngel	borrowed one, loaded River Raid
14:42	Isabella	brb
14:42	RealBadAngel	put the power supply outside (on the balcony)
14:42	RealBadAngel	to be better cooled
14:42	RealBadAngel	and kept River Raid loaded for a couple of weeks
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14:44	VanessaE	jeez
14:45	RealBadAngel	not to mention he drilled holes for the cables
14:46	VanessaE	wouldn't it have been easier to hack in an interface to use a regular audio tape recorder? :-)
14:46	whirm	did he had a badass SAI just in case?
14:46	RealBadAngel	later on we did that
14:47	RealBadAngel	for c64 and atari
14:48	RealBadAngel	even later there was a "turbo" solution
14:48	VanessaE	yup
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14:48	RealBadAngel	givin tvice as much voltage on the motor
14:48	VanessaE	and then disk drives, hard disks, and now solid state storage is the norm (at least for the C64) if you want more than a 5 1/4 disk.
14:49	RealBadAngel	to make the tape goes faster
14:49	RealBadAngel	and it worked
14:50	RealBadAngel	of course better tapes were needed
14:51	RealBadAngel	but seein cassette player runnin speed x4 = priceless
14:52	RealBadAngel	with my own i had to mount it firmly to the desk
14:53	RealBadAngel	because vibrations were causin errors
14:55	VanessaE	heh
14:56	VanessaE	to be fair I got fed up with using a tape driver after a few months and did everything I could to convince my parents to buy me a proper disk drive :-)
14:56	VanessaE	-r
14:56	RealBadAngel	testin tanks now
14:57	RealBadAngel	oh yeah
14:57	VanessaE	ok
14:57	RealBadAngel	youre great
14:57	Isabella	lol
14:57	VanessaE	of course I am :-)
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14:58	RealBadAngel	just remindin you :P
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14:59	VanessaE	hey TLP
14:59	RealBadAngel	now its ok
15:00	RealBadAngel	got all the elements now
15:00	VanessaE	and they work like you'd expect>
15:00	VanessaE	?
15:00	RealBadAngel	yes
15:00	VanessaE	damn I'm good :-)
15:00	RealBadAngel	damn youre real good
15:00	* RealBadAngel	bows
15:01	VanessaE	hey you're equally good - you're adding the actual water movement action :-)
15:01	VanessaE	water/lava/whatever
15:01	RealBadAngel	im just a technician
15:01	VanessaE	brb
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15:04	RealBadAngel	heh
15:04	RealBadAngel	one fundamental question
15:04	RealBadAngel	how many water/lava sources shall one tank hold?
15:05	VanessaE	I think 10 nodes
15:05	VanessaE	so the percent = the meter = the number of nodes held therein
15:06	RealBadAngel	not too few?
15:06	VanessaE	well
15:06	RealBadAngel	i was thinkin hundreds
15:07	VanessaE	really?
15:07	RealBadAngel	like 100 for a tank
15:07	VanessaE	well
15:07	VanessaE	how about 50 water, 10 lava, 30 of any kind of oil-like fluid, 100 of any kind of gas-like fluid
15:08	VanessaE	(with the oil/gas numbers being just suggestions to mod authors who use these pipes)
15:09	RealBadAngel	i think fixed number for all
15:09	VanessaE	mmmh
15:10	VanessaE	ok
15:10	VanessaE	but some low value
15:10	VanessaE	make the user stack those tanks up
15:10	RealBadAngel	10 is too low
15:10	RealBadAngel	way too low
15:10	RealBadAngel	100 is in the schema
15:10	RealBadAngel	i mean indicator
15:11	VanessaE	well the indicator is a percentage :-)
15:11	RealBadAngel	10 20 30... 100
15:11	VanessaE	hrm
15:11	RealBadAngel	hehe
15:11	VanessaE	well it could be steps of 3 or 5 or something also :-)
15:11	VanessaE	nothing says it has to be an even multiple of 10 :-)
15:12	RealBadAngel	well, i had such problem with powered tools
15:12	RealBadAngel	wear is 1-65535
15:12	RealBadAngel	mirrored even
15:13	RealBadAngel	had to write my own conversion functions
15:13	RealBadAngel	to had a range like 0-10000 or whatever
15:14	RealBadAngel	tried to do that without conversion and calculate it on the fly
15:14	RealBadAngel	leaks, errors, oversflows etc
15:14	VanessaE	ah
15:15	Isabella	:P
15:16	RealBadAngel	btw: isabella: who the heck r you?
15:16	Isabella	Isabella
15:16	VanessaE	maybe she's notch in disguise ;-)
15:16	RealBadAngel	suprise
15:16	Isabella	:(
15:17	VanessaE	you're welcome here Isabella
15:17	RealBadAngel	lol
15:17	VanessaE	we're just kidding :-)
15:17	Isabella	:(
15:17	RealBadAngel	dont like funny folks?
15:18	Isabella	its fine
15:19	RealBadAngel	chill out
15:19	Isabella	...
15:19	RealBadAngel	we really were jokin just
15:20	RealBadAngel	anybody is welcome here
15:20	Isabella	RealBadAngel: maybe your notch
15:20	RealBadAngel	when notch comes i can give him some privs on the server
15:21	Isabella	1 min
15:21	RealBadAngel	at least notch could fly ;)
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15:22	whirm	lol
15:22	VanessaE	ha!
15:22	RealBadAngel	yeah yeah
15:22	Notch	what
15:23	RealBadAngel	we are all so stupid ;)
15:23	whirm	RealBadAngel: now you have to give her privs
15:23	Guest81238	hahahaha
15:23	Guest81238	brb
15:24	RealBadAngel	dont teach dog how to find a bone
15:25	whirm	I think we need to teach her to use the /nick command :D
15:26	RealBadAngel	or how 2 hide ip
15:26	RealBadAngel	nvm
15:27	RealBadAngel	its ok to have some fun :)
15:27	whirm	XD
15:27	RealBadAngel	i do remember like 15 yrs ago on ircnet
15:27		Isabella joined #minetest
15:27	Isabella	what
15:27	RealBadAngel	the new update is online!
15:27	Isabella	i need privs now :D
15:28	RealBadAngel	press alt+F4 to download it!
15:28	Isabella	thats to close this tab
15:28	whirm	Isabella: to close the tab is ctrl+w
15:28	RealBadAngel	wise one
15:28	RealBadAngel	hehehe
15:28	whirm	XDD
15:29	Isabella	nope i tried alt+f4 and said close all tabs yes or no
15:29	RealBadAngel	but it worked like really
15:29	whirm	Isabella: because it closes the whole window :)
15:29	RealBadAngel	50+ disconnects
15:29	RealBadAngel	that was FUN
15:29	Isabella	thats what i meant :)
15:30	Isabella	whirm: hi
15:31	RealBadAngel	ok, Isabella. we came to the conclusion youre not alt+f4 user.
15:31	RealBadAngel	maybe wiser
15:31	RealBadAngel	could you introduce yourself?
15:31	whirm	Isabella: hi :)
15:32	Isabella	im Isabella
15:32	Isabella	hi whirm again
15:32	whirm	RealBadAngel: it was funnier when h4x0rs asked for your IP to POD you and you gave them 127.100.63.34 :D
15:33	RealBadAngel	lol
15:33	Isabella	lol
15:33	RealBadAngel	Isabella: anythin more?
15:33	whirm	$ yes "Hi Isabella"
15:34	Isabella	NOPE
15:34	RealBadAngel	i meant hi im isabella, 18, 40 yrs experience in c++, love minetest
15:34	RealBadAngel	;)
15:35	Isabella	really
15:35	Isabella	...
15:36	RealBadAngel	could mention of course all those papparazzi standin outside too
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15:37	RealBadAngel	time to switch music
15:37	Isabella	Im Isabella, i live in USA im 17, i am an A/C student, and i like the poutdoora
15:37	Isabella	outdoors
15:37	PilzAdam	im 17 too
15:37	PilzAdam	but german
15:37	Isabella	cool
15:38	RealBadAngel	A/C student? does it mean you have to put your fingers into wall sockets to feel the current?
15:39	Isabella	?, no i get As and Cs
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15:39	whirm	lol
15:40	Isabella	lolz
15:41	RealBadAngel	uh ok
15:41	RealBadAngel	youre doing converting
15:42	RealBadAngel	analog to digital
15:42	Isabella	huh
15:43	RealBadAngel	analog to digital converter
15:43	whirm	RealBadAngel: that would be A/D
15:43	RealBadAngel	ac or adc
15:44	Isabella	im an a and c sstudent
15:44	whirm	there are really weird conversations in this channel sometimes...
15:44	Isabella	yes there is
15:44	RealBadAngel	yup
15:44	RealBadAngel	aint these funny?
15:44	Isabella	wow
15:44	Isabella	lol
15:45	RealBadAngel	whirm: heard the music pack Skaven gave us?
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15:45	whirm	yes, I think they are a masonic conspiration so I don't work
15:45	whirm	RealBadAngel: nope
15:45	RealBadAngel	hold on
15:46	* whirm	holds
15:46	Isabella	* so does Isabella
15:46	whirm	Isabella: use /me
15:46	Isabella	oh yeah
15:46	whirm	/me something
15:46	* Isabella	holsa
15:47	RealBadAngel	http://realbadangel.pl/techic_mod/music/skaven_music_pack.zip
15:47	Isabella	:P
15:47	* Isabella	holds
15:47	RealBadAngel	play. make it loud.
15:47	RealBadAngel	rock the house
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15:48	whirm	RealBadAngel: is this for minetest?
15:48	RealBadAngel	yes
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15:48	PilzAdam_	lol kubuntu just crashed
15:49	whirm	I've just listened to 20 secs of the first track but isn't it a little bit hardcore to put it in the game?
15:49	VanessaE	so use xubuntu instead :-)
15:49	RealBadAngel	its a proposal
15:49	whirm	I mean if we had gatling guns and lots of zombie invasions...
15:49	whirm	:)
15:49	RealBadAngel	music of old times
15:49	RealBadAngel	PC demoscene like 20 yrs ago
15:50	Isabella	VanessaE: who UbunuNerd?
15:50	VanessaE	I don't know him
15:50	VanessaE	(not well anyway)
15:50	RealBadAngel	me neither
15:50	VanessaE	I was talkin to PilzAdam.
15:51	RealBadAngel	bout?
15:51	VanessaE	he uses kubuntu, which is a Linux distribution.
15:51	Isabella	oh, i know UbuntuNerd anyway
15:51	VanessaE	I use Xubuntu, another variant of the same
15:51	VanessaE	both are based on Ubuntu.
15:51	VanessaE	UbuntuNerd obviously based his name on that
15:51	Isabella	oh
15:51	whirm	I used to make MODs 15 years ago :)
15:51	VanessaE	whirm: 12 years ago I wrote the first MOD player for the C64 :-)
15:52	RealBadAngel	VanessaE: what about listenin? a bit?
15:52	VanessaE	still proud of that accomplishment.
15:52	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: I will later.
15:52	RealBadAngel	i can hear that since 2 days :)
15:52	whirm	VanessaE: I wasn't good at all :D but had a friend who made some quite fun happy hardcore with Impulse tracker I think it was
15:53	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: time is short lately. didn't you know the day only has about 10 hours for me, versus 24 for everyone else? ;-)
15:53	RealBadAngel	i am makin now Rama II 100% loud
15:53	RealBadAngel	i guess
15:53	RealBadAngel	but
15:53	RealBadAngel	you have pointed me at Skaven's work
15:54	RealBadAngel	now face the consequences :)
15:54	VanessaE	haha
15:55	VanessaE	I just pointed out one or two of his tunes :-)
15:55	VanessaE	you went apeshit asking him for distribution permission et.al :-)
15:55	iqualfragile	pilzadam: could you please unzip the folders? (git, ambience) i think git isnt for hosting .zips but for version-controll
15:55	RealBadAngel	and i found them, found more, found him
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15:55	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, why?
15:56	iqualfragile	so it would be great for any server-admin to have them unzipped so he could update your mod by running git pull
15:56	PilzAdam	i will see what i can do
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15:56	VanessaE	neko
15:56	RealBadAngel	with many files, gfx or music or whatever theres a wise way
15:56	NekoGloop	:3
15:57	NekoGloop	Yes?
15:57	RealBadAngel	as Sdzen made
15:57	PilzAdam	Hi NekoGloop
15:57	NekoGloop	VanessaE: Yes?
15:57	RealBadAngel	compress all server cache
15:57	VanessaE	um. hi?
15:57	VanessaE	:-)
15:57	NekoGloop	:3
15:57	RealBadAngel	let clients dowload it
15:57	RealBadAngel	so the connection is easy, no wait
15:58	RealBadAngel	and you can have in cache whatever you want
15:58	RealBadAngel	we have tested it with music files
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15:59	RealBadAngel	whole cache is like 30mb compressed
16:00	RealBadAngel	lotsa mods
16:00	RealBadAngel	one dowload and client just connects
16:01	iqualfragile	just 14 mb for me
16:09	VanessaE	bbiab.
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16:26	RealBadAngel	back, was afk for a while
16:26	NekoGloop	Lol
16:27	RealBadAngel	ooo, gloopish master
16:27	RealBadAngel	hi :)
16:27	NekoGloop	:3
16:27	NekoGloop	Have you actually tried toolsizes?
16:27	RealBadAngel	sorry no
16:27	NekoGloop	Heh
16:27	RealBadAngel	have to much my own stuff
16:28	NekoGloop	Lol
16:28	RealBadAngel	when i visid server i used to play folks r suprised
16:29	RealBadAngel	even jeija's mesecons waits for testin
16:29	RealBadAngel	and i will need to use them
16:32	RealBadAngel	btw i took a look at the code
16:32	NekoGloop	For what?
16:32	RealBadAngel	of your tools
16:32	PilzAdam	every modder looks at code of others
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16:32	NekoGloop	And?
16:34	RealBadAngel	you waitin for oh ah and hooray?
16:34	NekoGloop	Just want to know why you are bringing this up
16:35	RealBadAngel	rainbow caves?
16:35	RealBadAngel	damn you
16:35	RealBadAngel	you really made this
16:36	RealBadAngel	i joined my server, to build some of my stuff
16:36	RealBadAngel	diamonds needed, rare stuff
16:36	RealBadAngel	went diggin
16:36	NekoGloop	At least i made the one only generate above sea level
16:37	RealBadAngel	whole walls covered with ores
16:37	RealBadAngel	with names sayin nothin
16:37	NekoGloop	Uh... What lol
16:37	NekoGloop	All of them have tooltips
16:38	RealBadAngel	yes
16:38	RealBadAngel	what the fuck is alato?
16:38	RealBadAngel	tell me
16:38	RealBadAngel	simple words
16:39	iqualfragile	you kann make tools out of it
16:39	RealBadAngel	sure
16:39	NekoGloop	Metallic ore, generates above sea level, hard in composition, and is also the only gloopore to be craftable into tools and blocks.
16:39	RealBadAngel	go on
16:39	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, kann is german and not english
16:39	iqualfragile	oh, verdammt
16:40	RealBadAngel	i got him, ich kann deutsch
16:40	PilzAdam	yay
16:40	iqualfragile	najaâ€¦ so nen bisl
16:40	RealBadAngel	then next of the ores
16:40	NekoGloop	If there was irl alatro it would repel water
16:40	RealBadAngel	sorry sir
16:41	NekoGloop	I'm thinking of making alatro blocks destroy water around it
16:41	iqualfragile	wir sollten nen eigenen channel aufmachen in dem wir uns nicht unterhalten oder so sondern lediglich dazu verabreden in diesem channel hier auf deutsch zu trollen
16:41	NekoGloop	Like mc sponge
16:41	RealBadAngel	you just made a shitload of coulours for the cave rainbow
16:41	NekoGloop	Uh no
16:41	RealBadAngel	yes
16:41	NekoGloop	Kalite at least is unique
16:42	iqualfragile	DOUBLERAINBOW!
16:42	RealBadAngel	lol
16:42	NekoGloop	You can eat kalite
16:42	RealBadAngel	its ok to make them
16:42	NekoGloop	And put it in a furnace
16:42	RealBadAngel	its an excersise to do
16:42	NekoGloop	And make torches
16:42	RealBadAngel	you took your lessons
16:43	RealBadAngel	but should drop such a mod
16:43	NekoGloop	Be happy that deserts have ores
16:43	RealBadAngel	THAT ACTUALLY WAS A GREAT IDEA
16:43	NekoGloop	:3
16:43	RealBadAngel	but when i went deeper
16:44	NekoGloop	Yeh it goes to normal stone
16:44	RealBadAngel	tryin to find copper
16:44	NekoGloop	Yes?
16:44	RealBadAngel	i was sayin like fuuuuuuuck. gloop all around
16:44	NekoGloop	Gloopores shouldnt affect how moreores spawn
16:45	NekoGloop	Want me to turn down the spawning algorithm?
16:45	iqualfragile	nekogloop: lets start an new mod
16:45	NekoGloop	Why, iqual
16:45	iqualfragile	we create dye-ores
16:45	NekoGloop	Lol no
16:45	RealBadAngel	join our server
16:45	iqualfragile	one for every colour
16:45	RealBadAngel	i mean sdzen's one
16:45	RealBadAngel	and play here
16:45	iqualfragile	i have got my own
16:45	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: On ipad atm
16:45	RealBadAngel	sir, your ores are the plague
16:46	RealBadAngel	my suggestion
16:46	NekoGloop	Go on
16:46	RealBadAngel	leave some of them
16:47	NekoGloop	Dont like them, remove the mod
16:47	RealBadAngel	stick to desert generation
16:47	RealBadAngel	its your patent
16:47	RealBadAngel	make 2-3, only on desert
16:47	NekoGloop	Akalin is only in desert
16:47	RealBadAngel	stick to it
16:47	NekoGloop	And coal and iron are in desert stone
16:48	RealBadAngel	on desert there are no confilcts
16:48	RealBadAngel	you were 1st
16:48	RealBadAngel	rule there
16:48	NekoGloop	How about this: SHOVE IT
16:49	RealBadAngel	shut up :P when i go down, see 15 colours on the wall of cave
16:49	RealBadAngel	....
16:49	RealBadAngel	sick
16:49	iqualfragile	just add some abm-s to turn them into stone
16:50	iqualfragile	und remove the rest of the mod
16:50	RealBadAngel	i also added some minerals to game
16:50	RealBadAngel	very rare
16:50	RealBadAngel	but yours are everywhere
16:50	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, #minetest-ger
16:51	RealBadAngel	limit yourself for christ sake
16:51	NekoGloop	Shaddup
16:51		Isabella joined #minetest
16:51	Isabella	hi
16:51	RealBadAngel	uh oh
16:52	Isabella	its me :(
16:52	RealBadAngel	noticed
16:52	iqualfragile	fuck
16:52	iqualfragile	everybody hide
16:52	iqualfragile	quick
16:52	Isabella	from wo!!!
16:52	iqualfragile	whaa, there she is
16:52	RealBadAngel	neko, lady came to visit ya
16:52	iqualfragile	she has got me
16:52	Isabella	(me :( )
16:52	iqualfragile	run
16:52	RealBadAngel	say hallo at least
16:52	iqualfragile	leave me behind
16:53	iqualfragile	save yourselves
16:53	NekoGloop	Who dafuq?
16:53	Isabella	its me
16:53	NekoGloop	...?
16:53	RealBadAngel	go on
16:53	Isabella	they dont like me
16:53	RealBadAngel	dont be shy
16:53	Isabella	what
16:53	iqualfragile	im gona distract isabella whle you run
16:53	Isabella	...
16:53	NekoGloop	Who is Isabella lol
16:53	iqualfragile	YES
16:54	RealBadAngel	notch in disguise maybe
16:54	RealBadAngel	who knows
16:54	NekoGloop	LOL
16:54	iqualfragile	she pretended to be female
16:54	RealBadAngel	but very young
16:55	vicscandl	hahahhaa
16:55	NekoGloop	What sorcery is this
16:55	NekoGloop	Damn
16:55	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, <Isabella> Im Isabella, i live in USA im 17, i am an A/C student, and i like the poutdoora
16:55	NekoGloop	Wrong chat -network- even
16:56	iqualfragile	jeah
16:56	RealBadAngel	copy later with ac/dc sockets
16:56	RealBadAngel	hehehehe
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16:57	RealBadAngel	http://realbadangel.pl/techic_mod/music/skaven_music_pack.zip
16:58	RealBadAngel	waitin for opinions
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17:02	Isabella	iqualfragile: RUN!
17:02	* PilzAdam	runs
17:02	RealBadAngel	just joined and run?
17:03	RealBadAngel	are you zombie or somethin equal scary?
17:03	Isabella	no iqualfragile hates me, he kept saying run away, so i left and came back on and said run
17:03	PilzAdam	why does he hate you?
17:03	* Isabella	runs and cries away from iqualfragile
17:03	whirm	Isabella: he fears you
17:03	RealBadAngel	ok folks
17:03	RealBadAngel	command is RUN
17:04	PilzAdam	3
17:04	RealBadAngel	run for your life!
17:04	PilzAdam	2
17:04	PilzAdam	1
17:04	* PilzAdam	RUN!!!!
17:04	whirm	he's afraid of 17 years old girls from USA that study A/C and like poutdoora
17:04	whirm	is a childhood trauma he has
17:05	whirm	*its
17:05	PilzAdam	lol
17:05	RealBadAngel	jhhahahhaa
17:05	Isabella	really, i am a and c student and like outdoors, i could see what i was typing because 1 of my kittens was standing infront of me
17:05	vicscandl	hahhahaha
17:05	Isabella	its not funny, i have forgiveness
17:06	vicscandl	i don't
17:06	RealBadAngel	what you guys talkin about? i thought that was bout this hill i run away
17:06	vicscandl	all your base
17:06	Isabella	RealBadAngel: dont run
17:06	NekoGloop	ARE BELONG TO US
17:06	PilzAdam	dont yell
17:07	* RealBadAngel	stops: sorry m'am? you were saying?
17:07	* whirm	starts delivering tranquilizer pills to everyone
17:07	* NekoGloop	zzzzz....
17:08	PilzAdam	someone want to talk about minetest?
17:08	RealBadAngel	what the fuck is this??? ;)
17:08	Isabella	Is Herobrine in Minetest
17:08	RealBadAngel	seeeee
17:08	* PilzAdam	hits RealBadAngel
17:08	RealBadAngel	dont even try
17:08	Isabella	Hahahaha
17:09	* Isabella	laughs and rolls on floor
17:09	* whirm	throws cats at everyone
17:09	* PilzAdam	throws dogs
17:09	* NekoGloop	is thrown :P
17:09	PilzAdam	??
17:09	PilzAdam	lol
17:10	RealBadAngel	dont throw male ones here plz
17:10	* Isabella	throws PilzAdam
17:10	NekoGloop	Derp
17:10	RealBadAngel	i do own black female beast here
17:10	* PilzAdam	throws back
17:11	Isabella	guyss search on youtube Freak Out, its a ride at the fair that we are having. that ride is there, im want to try it out
17:11	RealBadAngel	m'am
17:11	Isabella	sup
17:11	RealBadAngel	freak r here
17:11	RealBadAngel	no need to look for them
17:12	whirm	XDDDD
17:12	* whirm	nods
17:12	RealBadAngel	the question is:
17:12	RealBadAngel	r u sure thats the place you want to be in?
17:13	Isabella	where
17:13	RealBadAngel	damn me
17:13	Isabella	what!
17:13	Isabella	where!
17:13	RealBadAngel	somebody explain it her
17:13	Isabella	what?
17:13	PilzAdam	where you get so many mouths?
17:13	PilzAdam	(this joke is old :( )
17:14	Isabella	huh?
17:14	whirm	RealBadAngel: if she knows herobrine she wants to be here
17:14	RealBadAngel	lol
17:14	Isabella	wtf
17:14	whirm	PilzAdam: I told you past week , at the chinese shop
17:14	RealBadAngel	ok, whos gonna be the herobrine for her?
17:15	Isabella	>:(
17:15	whirm	don't look at me, I would end in jail or something
17:15	PilzAdam	whirm, NekoGloop has stolen every mouth from there
17:15	RealBadAngel	neko
17:15	NekoGloop	Wut
17:15	RealBadAngel	your call
17:15	RealBadAngel	be that man
17:15	whirm	PilzAdam: I don't care, I can copypaste them, this is the internet you know?
17:15	Isabella	Omg
17:16	PilzAdam	i heard from it....
17:16	NekoGloop	I returned them
17:16	RealBadAngel	refused
17:16	RealBadAngel	NekoGloop: registered as herobrine
17:17	NekoGloop	Wut
17:17	Isabella	Herobrine
17:17	Isabella	not herobrine
17:17	* NekoGloop	has no eyes now w00t
17:17	RealBadAngel	go go Johny
17:18	* NekoGloop	grabs his diamond sword
17:18	* Isabella	does too
17:18	* PilzAdam	grabs his fire sword
17:18	Isabella	now w00t
17:18	Isabella	hahaha
17:18	* NekoGloop	hits isabella twice from behind
17:18	NekoGloop	Ded
17:18	* PilzAdam	revives Isabella
17:18	* RealBadAngel	plays some romantic music for the scene
17:19	NekoGloop	No she respawned
17:19	RealBadAngel	with a kiss?
17:19	RealBadAngel	wooowish
17:19	NekoGloop	No
17:19	PilzAdam	;)
17:20	Isabella	... :) uh ok
17:20	RealBadAngel	man, youre glookish, i meam luckish, well u got luck
17:21	Isabella	i never have luck /me looks down
17:21	Isabella	heehehe
17:21	Isabella	i looks down
17:21	Basstard`	What do you see down there?
17:21	RealBadAngel	and whats up?
17:22	RealBadAngel	are we goin to play ping pong?
17:22	NekoGloop	She sees grassy dirt blocks
17:22	Isabella	i am playing minetest
17:22	RealBadAngel	wow
17:22	RealBadAngel	serious stuff
17:23	Isabella	i have to flower/farming/harvesting mods on so i am gardening, with my friend
17:23	RealBadAngel	ooops
17:23	Isabella	ip: 192.168.0.109
17:23	NekoGloop	Uh
17:23	RealBadAngel	more ooops
17:23	NekoGloop	Unless you forward a port...
17:23	NekoGloop	We cant play with you
17:24	RealBadAngel	i guess you just failed in quest lookim for a coder husband
17:24	Isabella	30000
17:24	Isabella	why cant play
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17:25	PilzAdam	internet fail!
17:25	NekoGloop	Because stupid security settings
17:25	Isabella	mine?
17:25	RealBadAngel	your mine?
17:26	Isabella	my server...
17:27	Isabella	im confused
17:27	* PilzAdam	too
17:27	Basstard`	I fused a cone.
17:27	RealBadAngel	my fuses seems to work ok
17:28	Basstard`	What about your cones?
17:28	RealBadAngel	what cones have to do with fuses??
17:29	Basstard`	Con(e)fusion.
17:29	RealBadAngel	ah, higher logic
17:30	RealBadAngel	are you sure milady is prepared for it?
17:31	RealBadAngel	Isabella?
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17:33	* RealBadAngel	plays Omniphilia - Rama II
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17:34	* PilzAdam	watchs a video about internet addiction
17:34	RealBadAngel	ha
17:34	_2cool_	c55.me server is kinda... downish
17:34	RealBadAngel	non addicted one spoken :P
17:35	PilzAdam	_2cool_, http://minetest.net/servers.php
17:35	PilzAdam	celeron55's server is currently down for an undefined period of time. Apologies.
17:35	_2cool_	hmm, what server to go on?
17:35	Basstard`	RealBadAngel: Are you a real bad angel?
17:35	* RealBadAngel	expects a PilzAdams facepalm right away
17:35	PilzAdam	_2cool_, localhost :)
17:35	_2cool_	facepalm
17:36	_2cool_	any freebuilds?
17:36	PilzAdam	http://servers.minetest.ru/
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17:37	RealBadAngel	i got a server space
17:37	RealBadAngel	but hold on
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17:38	RealBadAngel	shit
17:38	_2cool_	oh no
17:38	PilzAdam	what??
17:38	_2cool_	what was that?
17:38	RealBadAngel	split
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17:38	RealBadAngel	hackers paradise
17:38	_2cool_	yep
17:38	_2cool_	but what is a split
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17:38	Basstard`	"Netsplit"
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17:39	_2cool_	so what is it
17:39	PilzAdam	idk
17:39	RealBadAngel	i remeber times when irc network has nodes in ww2 towers
17:39	_2cool_	That''s pretty stupid
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17:40	RealBadAngel	before they collapse
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17:40	RealBadAngel	such situation
17:40		OldCoder joined #minetest
17:40	RealBadAngel	bein on the other end
17:40	RealBadAngel	= takin ownage of the channel
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17:41	NekoGloop	Wut?
17:41	_2cool_	netsplit
17:41	PilzAdam	@all, wb!
17:41	_2cool_	wat
17:41	_2cool_	I know nothing about IRC
17:41	RealBadAngel	i bet there are not so many folks who knows what split is for ;)
17:42	Basstard`	RealBadAngel: Let me guess, UnderNet, eh?
17:42	RealBadAngel	takin over
17:42	Isabella	me
17:43	Isabella	again
17:43	RealBadAngel	what?
17:43	_2cool_	Thanks tomaw, you just split the net!
17:43	* Isabella	runs away from everyine
17:43	Basstard`	RealBadAngel: What networks did you use to be on?
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17:44	RealBadAngel	youre sayin hello, fuck you or what to everyone?
17:44	Isabella	me?
17:44	RealBadAngel	you
17:44	Isabella	me?
17:44	_2cool_	I made it through the netsplit!
17:44	_2cool_	Achievement Get!
17:45	RealBadAngel	Basstard`: i was usin irc since the begining
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17:45	Basstard`	RealBadAngel: Uh huh, what network/s?
17:45	_2cool_	Still
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17:45	RealBadAngel	ircnet
17:45	Basstard`	Ah
17:45	RealBadAngel	#sex op
17:45	Isabella	_2cool_ good for you
17:45	PilzAdam	_2cool_, you can type and other people see what you type
17:46	RealBadAngel	funny, yeah? :)
17:46	_2cool_	yes
17:46	_2cool_	uhhh
17:47	Isabella	har de har har
17:48	PilzAdam	?
17:48	RealBadAngel	uh oh
17:48	RealBadAngel	lady can sing
17:48	RealBadAngel	shut up n listen
17:48	* PilzAdam	claps
17:48	Isabella	who hoo what lady
17:49	NekoGloop	The fat lady
17:49	Isabella	good im not fat
17:49	Isabella	i stay fit :) like my aunt
17:50	RealBadAngel	flat or fat? fit? well feed?
17:51	Isabella	i excersise, which boys are suppossed to do insted of girls,
17:52	RealBadAngel	huh, what?
17:52	RealBadAngel	first: got ya, youre not english
17:53	RealBadAngel	2nd: dont use google translator
17:53	PilzAdam	my internet connection is fun: http://www.zimg.eu/i/73066700
17:54	RealBadAngel	isabellla: by the type of error u made i suppose youre slovanian
17:54	Isabella	boys are supposed to stay fit insted of girls, but now mostly girls stay fit than boys
17:55	Isabella	maybe im bad at spelling when i type fats ok?
17:55	Isabella	fast
17:55	PilzAdam	im fit in programming :)
17:55	RealBadAngel	you made common error
17:55	Isabella	PilxAdam: At excersising
17:56	Isabella	Pilz
17:56	RealBadAngel	that slovanians do
17:56	Isabella	what ever
17:56	Isabella	atop shithead
17:56	Isabella	omg
17:56	Isabella	stop
17:56	Isabella	hmmmm: hi
17:58	hmmmm	hello...?
17:59	_2cool_	that's the fourth time I've cleared screen today
18:00	Basstard`	_2cool_: Shoot low.
18:04	Isabella	:P
18:06	_2cool_	Minetest servers hate me...
18:07	NekoGloop	We all do
18:07	_2cool_	I know...
18:07	* PilzAdam	too
18:07	* _2cool_	sad
18:07	* PilzAdam	laughs at _2cool_
18:07	* PilzAdam	evil face
18:07	* _2cool_	hits Pilz
18:08	* PilzAdam	take his nuke
18:08	* _2cool_	slaps PilzAdam with a 4r8a9inbow trout
18:08	* PilzAdam	throws the nuke at _2cool_
18:08	* Isabella	loves pink
18:08	* PilzAdam	loves pain
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18:08	Isabella	who here hates Isabella say aye
18:08	Isabella	aye
18:08	NekoGloop	Lol
18:08	NekoGloop	Nay
18:08	* _2cool_	dodges, nuke explodes ~600 km away
18:09	NekoGloop	Yet you are still infected
18:09	_2cool_	nup, too far
18:09	* Isabella	says stop with the nukes and throws thousands of nukes at _2cool_ and PilzAdam
18:09	* PilzAdam	goes in a bunker
18:10	Isabella	...
18:10	* _2cool_	laughs at his failed attempt to survive
18:10	Isabella	ive been in a real war bunker
18:10	PilzAdam	were you get the nukes?
18:10	PilzAdam	ebay=
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18:11	Isabella	no in Holland where germans tried to get in but that was so protected that the germans then went to Amsterdam
18:11	Isabella	and yea
18:11	iqualfragile	again?
18:11	iqualfragile	AGAIN
18:12	Isabella	RUN! AWAY!
18:12	iqualfragile	oh god, she scares me
18:12	_2cool_	darp
18:13	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, sie ist zahm :) du brauchst sie nicht zu fÃ¼rchten
18:13	* iqualfragile	gives food to isabelle
18:14	iqualfragile	Mein Herr, es hat den Anschein sie verschmÃ¤he meine Gabe.
18:14	_2cool_	No hablo
18:15	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, Das kÃ¶nnte sein, Hochwohlgeboren
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18:16	Isabella	... what language
18:16		Isabella joined #minetest
18:16	_2cool_	Something comparable to deutch, if not so
18:17	NekoGloop	Random language
18:17	PilzAdam	german
18:17	_2cool_	deutch
18:17	Isabella	german?
18:17	PilzAdam	yes
18:18	Isabella	i know dutch
18:18	_2cool_	deutch is german in German
18:18	_2cool_	if I'm spelling it right
18:18	Isabella	i know
18:18	PilzAdam	_2cool_, its Deutsch
18:18	PilzAdam	with a "s"
18:19	_2cool_	See, I was wrong!
18:19	NekoGloop	Dayum
18:19	NekoGloop	I always thought that was dutch
18:19	PilzAdam	we also got Ã¤, Ã¶ and Ã¼
18:19	_2cool_	where does that go on the keyboard
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18:20	Isabella	he has a speacial keyboradr prob
18:20	Isabella	im bad at spelling
18:20	PilzAdam	https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:German-Keyboard-Layout-T2-Version1-large.png&filetimestamp=20110916231650
18:20	Isabella	yay he left
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18:21	_2cool_	interesting...
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18:24	Isabella	what
18:28	iqualfragile1	â€¦ you are stupid, arent you?
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18:29	iqualfragile1	PilzAdam: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Neo_2.0-Tastaturbelegung_Ebene1.svg
18:29	iqualfragile1	thats my layout
18:29	Isabella	nooooooooo
18:30	PilzAdam	iqualfragile1, lol
18:30	Isabella	ahhhhhhh
18:30	iqualfragile1	is so much better
18:30	* Isabella	dies
18:30	* PilzAdam	revives her with a romantic kiss
18:30	* iqualfragile1	shotguns the zombie
18:30	* PilzAdam	shotguns iqualfragile1
18:30	* PilzAdam	revives her with a romantic kiss again
18:31	* iqualfragile1	is an immortal angel
18:31	* PilzAdam	is the devil
18:31	* iqualfragile1	sends samuel(PilzAdam) and lilith(isabella) to hell
18:32	* PilzAdam	's home is the hell
18:32	PilzAdam	welvome to my home Isabella
18:32	iqualfragile1	now get on the bed!
18:38	Isabella	why
18:38	NekoGloop	So he can raep you \:D/
18:38	Isabella	...
18:38	PilzAdam	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sexual_activity
18:39	Isabella	your hell is nice pilz
18:39	iqualfragile1	BENZIIIN
18:39	Isabella	?
18:39	PilzAdam	you need it to drive with a car
18:40	Isabella	ok...
18:40	PilzAdam	its german for gas
18:41	iqualfragile1	willst du es nie wieder sehn lass es schwimmen in benzin
18:41	Isabella	...???
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18:42	iqualfragile	im sorry for my evil twin
18:42	NekoGloop	Lol
18:42	iqualfragile	he can be so mean sometimesâ€¦
18:43	PilzAdam	g2g
18:43	PilzAdam	bye
18:44	Isabella	whos ur bro
18:44	iqualfragile	well, iqualfragile1
18:47	Isabella	oh i see one has an e and one doesnt ok
18:49	iqualfragile	well, i personaly call that thing a 1 but you may call it an e
18:49	Isabella	a 1?
18:50	iqualfragile	jeah, â€šoneâ€˜
18:51	iqualfragile	my evil twin is called iqualfragileâ€š1â€˜
18:51	Isabella	omg i am so confused with the names
18:52	iqualfragile	you can use an propper irc-client instead of the webchat
18:52	iqualfragile	then the names would have different colours
18:55	iqualfragile	so you would't have to use the litle thing inside your head to remember all those complex names
18:55	Isabella	? how do you do that
18:57	iqualfragile	just get pidgin http://www.pidgin.im/ , install it, log on and you are done
18:57	Isabella	i dont want to install anything
18:57	RealBadAngel	isabella: can i date with you?
18:58	Isabella	how
18:58	NekoGloop	I have a proper irc client and have all orange
18:58	iqualfragile	dont let him trick you! he is a cat
18:58	Isabella	rawr
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18:59	iqualfragile	everybody: kill that fÃ¼cking tiger!
18:59	NakedFury	my connection is acting bitchy today
18:59	NekoGloop	No i'm a cat
18:59	iqualfragile	not you
18:59	iqualfragile	the Â»IsabellaÂ« thing
19:00	Isabella	rawr?
19:00	Isabella	:P
19:01	iqualfragile	she is gona eat me
19:01	Isabella	:D
19:01	iqualfragile	get her of me, kill that fÃ¼cking tiger
19:01	* NekoGloop	inserts claws into isabella's sides
19:01	* Isabella	yells
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19:02	* iqualfragile	spears isabella while she is distrakted
19:02	* iqualfragile	grills the tiger
19:02	* iqualfragile	gives neko some meat
19:02	Isabella	thats RealBadAngel
19:03	* NekoGloop	yum yum
19:03	* NekoGloop	om nom nom
19:04	Isabella	hey :D how r u RealBadAngel
19:15	NakedFury	hello
19:15	NekoGloop	Derp
19:16	NekoGloop	I need to do something halfway prodictive
19:16	Isabella	ok
19:16	NakedFury	internet enough for irc and nothing else
19:17	Isabella	internet here= fine
19:17	NakedFury	this sucks
19:17	NekoGloop	Well
19:18	NekoGloop	I'm doing this and watching some crazy shiz on youtube
19:19	NakedFury	something japanese related
19:20	NekoGloop	Yup
19:20	NekoGloop	Japanese creepypastas
19:20	iqualfragile	â€¦
19:24	iqualfragile	waitâ€¦ she was using the webchatâ€¦ how can there be a timeout?
19:24	NekoGloop	If disconnected
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19:37	Isabella	hi
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20:09	pazuzu	hello
20:09	Isabella	hi
20:09	pazuzu	can somebody explain me how to use the furnace?
20:10	khonkhortisan	put leaves in the bottom left, iron in the top left
20:10	Isabella	hahaha
20:11	pazuzu	im trying coal and tree to make some more coal, but it tells me there is no fuel
20:11	khonkhortisan	I don't think tree makes coal
20:11	NakedFury	fuel goes on the bottom, what you want to burn goes on top
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20:12	iqualfragile	you cant make coal from wood
20:12	iqualfragile	but its verry easy to write a mod wich allows you to do so
20:12	pazuzu	i tried putting flammables (as per wiki) in the bottom slot, but it always tell me there is no fuel
20:12	pazuzu	i found coal+wood= more coal on the wiki
20:13	NekoGloop	Nope
20:14	pazuzu	ah yeah , no longer
20:14	khonkhortisan	http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Coal_Lump "This recipe no longer exists"
20:15	pazuzu	thanks
20:17	Isabella	wow him
20:19	FreeFull	I'm playing cornernote's skyblock
20:19	FreeFull	Although it's more of a skysphere now
20:19	NekoGloop	Lol
20:20	FreeFull	So far I fell off once
20:20	FreeFull	And lost my mese pickaxe ):L
20:20	FreeFull	):*
20:21	FreeFull	I don't know why I didn't put the pickaxe away
20:22	FreeFull	I also reallllllly wish minetest had shift-click crafting
20:22	iqualfragile	jeah
20:22	FreeFull	Maybe I should code it myself
20:22	Basstard`	Shift-alt-ctrl-backspace-click crafting.
20:23	NakedFury	it would be useful to have quick crafting
20:23	NakedFury	shift click to craft all possible stuff
20:23	FreeFull	It'd also be useful for transferring items to/from chests
20:23	NakedFury	that too
20:23	Basstard`	Why not combos, like on those consoles?
20:25	FreeFull	Basstard`: What are you talking about
20:25	NakedFury	When the inventory is open, Shift + clicking on an item or stack moves it between the inventory and the hotbar. When a chest is open, Shift + clicking on an item will move the entire stack between the chest and the inventory. When a furnace is open, Shift + clicking an item or stack in the furnace moves it to the inventory, and Shift + clicking an item or stack in the inventory moves it into the "item" (not fuel) slot of the furnace. When crafting, S
20:25	NakedFury	hift + clicking the crafted item automatically crafts the maximum number of that item for the materials being used, and moves all crafted items to the inventory.
20:26	FreeFull	It's really useful if you want to craft a lot of, say, torches
20:26	FreeFull	Or really anything
20:26	FreeFull	You don't have to repeatedly click
20:26	leo_rockway	+1 for this
20:26	Basstard`	Why not Alt+Shift and then a letter or two for the item and then a number for the amount.
20:27	NakedFury	so much
20:31	iqualfragile	too complicated
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20:46	bas080	Hey Guys
20:46	Basstard`	Hey Girl
20:47	bas080	You Basstard!
20:50	Basstard`	You bas080!
20:52	NekoGloop	You NekoGloop!
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21:06	Octupus	hi
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21:09	Octupus	hi
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21:19	madchicken13	Hello
21:19	madchicken13	Is Anyone There
21:20	Octupus	i am
21:21	leo_rockway	is PewDiePie in here?
21:21	madchicken13	Idk
21:22	madchicken13	Can you do me a Favor
21:22	leo_rockway	probably not, but tell me and I'll see
21:23	madchicken13	Will you join my Minetest Forums No signing Up all you do is Login with Google or Facebook -- http://minetestforums.weebly.com/
21:23	leo_rockway	there already is a minetest forum
21:23	madchicken13	I cant Use the Minetest Forums
21:23	leo_rockway	and the plural of forum is fora o.o
21:24	Octupus	chicken
21:24	madchicken13	yes
21:24	Octupus	can u host me a server
21:24	madchicken13	Are you Octupuslegs?
21:24	Octupus	yep
21:25	madchicken13	No i cant But i Can Show You How if you get TeamViewer
21:25	Octupus	ik how to pforward
21:26	madchicken13	ok
21:26	Octupus	but im not home
21:26	madchicken13	i can setup one if you want
21:26	madchicken13	o ok
21:26	madchicken13	i Have a Minetest Server that you can be Admin on
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21:27	iqualfragile	madchicken: why cant you use the minetestforum?
21:27	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
21:27	iqualfragile	hi
21:28	madchicken13	i got banned because i didnt know it was illegal to Change the format of songs and post them (I Buy all my Songs)
21:28	madchicken13	But Everyone Can Join My Minetest Forum if Theyd Like -- http://minetestforums.weebly.com/
21:30	madchicken13	Octupus?
21:30	leo_rockway	madchicken13: it is illegal if the song is copyrighted with all rights reserved (although not unethical, IMO)
21:30	madchicken13	wow
21:30	leo_rockway	madchicken13: check out jamendo.com
21:30	leo_rockway	you can copy that music
21:31	madchicken13	Ok well i Talked to Celeron55 and i Learned my lesson
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21:31	Octupus	srry it was an erroe on page
21:31	madchicken13	Octupus
21:31	Octupus	mad what server
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21:31	PilzAdam	hi Isabella
21:32	Isabella	Hi pilz
21:32	PilzAdam	call me Adam and not Pilz
21:32	Isabella	Ok Adam
21:32	madchicken13	My Server is on my Forum -- http://minetestforums.weebly.com/ --- under Servers its M13's 0.4-DEV 20120106_1 Server it has a Download link for the client
21:32	leo_rockway	PilzAdam: you're not a butthole, you're awesome <3
21:32	PilzAdam	thx
21:33	Isabella	m13 server? madchicken13?
21:33	madchicken13	PilzAdam i LOVE your 3D Animals Mod But like after 2 Days My Server Crashed From animals (Lolz)
21:33	leo_rockway	minetest sometimes feels like Eternal September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_september
21:34	madchicken13	yea its Me UbuntuNerd isabella
21:34	Isabella	who knows: m13.sytes.net the server
21:34	madchicken13	me!
21:34	Isabella	Ubununerd!!!!!!
21:35	madchicken13	yes?
21:35	Octupus	mad chicke the 0.4/0.4.2
21:35	Isabella	omg, i didnt think you were here!
21:35	madchicken13	no
21:35	madchicken13	M13's Minetest 0.4-DEV 20120106_1 Server (Public)(UP)(With Client Download)
21:35	Octupus	oh
21:36	Octupus	what mods u got on
21:36	madchicken13	some cool mods Customized by Me!
21:36	Isabella	haha
21:37	madchicken13	MoreBlocks, Ropes, Hatches (PS : Need more / Cant Find a Lot for Minetest 0.4 - Dev 20120106
21:37	Octupus	:0
21:38	madchicken13	did you logon to my Forums Octupus
21:38	Octupus	whats hatches?
21:38	Isabella	mad
21:38	madchicken13	Forum*
21:38	madchicken13	tes?
21:38	madchicken13	yes?*
21:38	leo_rockway	hatches has a problem I never reported...
21:38	leo_rockway	they are impossible to mine
21:39	madchicken13	lolz fixed that
21:39	PilzAdam	madchicken13, why join a new forum when there is already one?
21:39	madchicken13	I cant Used That One
21:39	Octupus	its his forum
21:39	leo_rockway	> get banned from forum
21:39	leo_rockway	> fork forum
21:39	leo_rockway	sounds legit
21:39	Isabella	ubuntunerd heres my server 192.168.0.0109
21:39	PilzAdam	:)
21:40	Isabella	port 30000
21:40	Octupus	chicken im now a testure preson
21:40	Octupus	if u need something textures ask me
21:40	madchicken13	wRong IP
21:40	madchicken13	go to whatsmyip.us
21:40	PilzAdam	try 127.0.0.1
21:40	madchicken13	http://whatsmyip.is
21:40	PilzAdam	lol
21:40	leo_rockway	PilzAdam: hey, that's my IP! D:
21:41	madchicken13	port? lolz
21:41	PilzAdam	30000
21:41	madchicken13	Client?
21:41	PilzAdam	every
21:41	madchicken13	Version?
21:41	leo_rockway	in other news: I'm very bored. Perhaps I should compile MT in a virtual machine here...
21:41	madchicken13	How is it Everyone
21:41	Isabella	what? ubuntu go to it plz
21:41	madchicken13	every Minetest *
21:42	PilzAdam	there is no protocol check
21:42	Isabella	whats that
21:42	madchicken13	Isabeela go to http://whatsmyip.us/ and giveme the ip
21:42	leo_rockway	Isabella: yours isn't a valid IP address.
21:42	PilzAdam	madchicken13, you know that 127.0.0.0 is same as localhost?
21:43	PilzAdam	*127.0.0.1
21:43	madchicken13	localhost??
21:43	PilzAdam	your own computer
21:43	madchicken13	o lolz
21:43	madchicken13	my servers are running on my other computer
21:44	Isabella	leo_rockway: whats that mean
21:44	madchicken13	thats y it isnt working
21:44	leo_rockway	Isabella: one thing is wrong with your IP and another thing is potentially wrong:
21:44	PilzAdam	Isabella, 192.168.0.***
21:44	PilzAdam	are normally lan adresses
21:44	leo_rockway	the IP you pasted has the wrong number of digits
21:44	Isabella	its 109
21:44	leo_rockway	it's a local IP, so people need to be in your LAN to connect
21:44	leo_rockway	so, unless PilzAdam is in your LAN, he'll never reach your server.
21:44	madchicken13	use http://whatsmyip.us/
21:45	PilzAdam	VPN tunnel :)
21:45	leo_rockway	that works
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21:45	Isabella	my internet wont open it
21:45	PilzAdam	http://www.whatismyip.com/
21:45	Isabella	the local srver only works the public cant open because it wont open
21:45	madchicken13	use http://whatsmyip.org
21:45	Isabella	the addresses
21:46	Octupus	chick
21:46	PilzAdam	http://www.wieistmeineip.de/
21:46		ray8888 joined #minetest
21:46	iqualfragile	icanhazip.com
21:46	iqualfragile	best.site.ever
21:46	Octupus	can u give me a different server that u dont use
21:46	madchicken13	theres boobs on the side of the page adam
21:46	Isabella	it sasy 70.52.159.249
21:47	Octupus	its usa
21:47	PilzAdam	madchicken13, ??
21:47	ray8888	yup
21:47	madchicken13	Ray!!
21:47	ray8888	hey
21:47	Isabella	gtg
21:48	iqualfragile	es scheint als hÃ¤tte das wahnsinnshuhn keinen addblocker installiert
21:48	madchicken13	Can you join my Minetest Forum
21:48	ray8888	can why
21:48	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, Wer hat den bitteschÃ¶n keinen Werbeblocker?
21:48	Isabella	me? i cant wont let me
21:48	Isabella	gtg
21:48	iqualfragile	madchicken: nobody will join your forum
21:48	PilzAdam	madchicken13, nope
21:48	madchicken13	Lies
21:48	Octupus	ray did u apologize to keegan for griefing him when some1 hacked aptainfaps account\
21:49	madchicken13	Keegans Camping
21:49	Octupus	ik
21:49	Octupus	keegan left me incharge
21:49	madchicken13	yep and me
21:49	madchicken13	Me and Octupus
21:49	Octupus	yp
21:49	ray8888	i did not grivf it so shut the fuck befor i kill you
21:50	Octupus	shush
21:50	madchicken13	lol bypolar
21:50	Octupus	chicken a cat is going to eat u
21:50	ray8888	keegan dont know who did it
21:51	Octupus	i saw u
21:51	madchicken13	Checked the logs
21:51	madchicken13	cyah all later
21:51	Octupus	if RAY was u who was it ?
21:51		madchicken13 left #minetest
21:51	Octupus	bye
21:51	ray8888	o you wach ray or USA do it
21:52	ray8888	they did not have interact
21:52	ray8888	so fuck you
21:52	Octupus	ray
21:52	Octupus	l
21:52	Octupus	i caught u
21:52	Octupus	and i banned u
21:52	ray8888	i joned and was going to ask for it than i get blamed
21:53	* VanessaE	wanders in, half asleep
21:53	iqualfragile	again?
21:53	PilzAdam	hi
21:53	ray8888	you are not going to go on sdzens server
21:53	Octupus	hamachi 1
21:53	Octupus	so over that may i join your server
21:53	ray8888	your baned to
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21:54	iqualfragile	ok: i thought we would not need any mods around here
21:54	Octupus	what did i do
21:54	NekoGloop	Ok
21:54	ray8888	neko
21:54	NekoGloop	What?
21:55	NekoGloop	ray8888: What?
21:55	ray8888	would i ever grevf
21:55	Octupus	hi vannessa
21:55	iqualfragile	because we all new such things as netiquette and could discuss issues
21:55	NekoGloop	No you wouldnt
21:55	NekoGloop	Why...?
21:56	iqualfragile	there was about one troll and he just went away after a while
21:56	PilzAdam	VanessaE, you need enough REM sleep to be productive
21:56	NekoGloop	Is she here?
21:56	ray8888	im geting blamed for keegans thing
21:56	iqualfragile	but now there are 4 people fighting about nonsense
21:56	Octupus	because i caught him placing lava
21:56	PilzAdam	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_eye_movement_sleep
21:57	ray8888	i did not have interact
21:57	Octupus	forget it
21:57	NekoGloop	Keegan isnt stupid, he'll make it look like someone else did it
21:57	leo_rockway	VanessaE inputs coffee and outputs code.
21:57	ray8888	you dont know shit
21:57	PilzAdam	leo_rockway, lol
21:57	NekoGloop	Leo, more like input mtn dew output code
21:58	VanessaE	oh I get plenty of sleep, just not in long-enough stints
21:58	leo_rockway	that works too, as long as it has caffeine, NekoGloop
21:58	PilzAdam	ray8888, why are you so agressibe?
21:58	* NekoGloop	pokes vanessae
21:58	PilzAdam	*agressive
21:58	VanessaE	ow.
21:58	Octupus	SO whats every1 up 2
21:58	NekoGloop	Oh right i ignored her because of boredom
21:58	* leo_rockway	is @work
21:58	NekoGloop	Sorry
21:58	Octupus	iqual shush b4 ray goes bad on u]
21:58	Octupus	lol
21:58	* PilzAdam	is chatting with you
21:59	VanessaE	you /ignore'd me? :(
21:59	NekoGloop	Yes i did
21:59	NekoGloop	I got bored
21:59	ray8888	so back to wacking sdzens server
21:59	VanessaE	jeez, well thanks a lot
22:00	Octupus	y does no1 talk on minetest-dev vanessa
22:00	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moNGZjBNiJY
22:00	Octupus	i didnt do it
22:00	Octupus	i wasnt online
22:00	Octupus	im in honduras and the cp im using cant run 4.2
22:00	VanessaE	Octupus: people do but -dev is strictly for use by minetest core developers and contributors, not by normal uses
22:01	VanessaE	so as such it is limited to talk of only that nature, and usually only when celeron55 is aroun
22:01	VanessaE	d
22:01	PilzAdam	VanessaE, and whats with -delta?
22:01	Octupus	ah
22:01	NekoGloop	Its a riverend that branches widely
22:01	VanessaE	-delta used to be for that purpose, but has since kinda gone dead
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22:02	Octupus	i tink im delta material
22:02	Octupus	not dev yet
22:02	PilzAdam	R.I.P. #minetest-delta
22:02	* PilzAdam	starts crying
22:02	* NekoGloop	pats pilzadam on the back
22:02	Octupus	SO
22:03	* PilzAdam	sniffles
22:03	Octupus	vaneesa i cudnt make the toilet code
22:03	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moNGZjBNiJY
22:03	Octupus	and i tried to make a new type of water
22:03	NekoGloop	I clicked it pilz
22:03	PilzAdam	:-)
22:03	Octupus	who on here was a server
22:04	PilzAdam	i am not a server
22:04	Octupus	i mean HAS
22:04	VanessaE	Octupus: it takes time to learn to code lua for minetest
22:04	PilzAdam	i have a CUPS server
22:04	PilzAdam	for my printer
22:04	Octupus	i mean a mt server
22:05	PilzAdam	see this: http://servers.minetest.ru/
22:06	iqualfragile	i have one
22:07	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, does it have a forum page?
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22:07	iqualfragile	it has
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22:09	Octupus	nessa when was the last time a talk on th dev and hi tux
22:09	VanessaE	Octupus: a day or two ago
22:09	VanessaE	it's not super frequent but enough so anyway
22:10	PilzAdam	Octupus, i think c55 talked someone else about the weather
22:10	PilzAdam	in finnland
22:10	khonkhortisan	mesecon circuits are much easier in 2D than in 3D
22:11	Octupus	i dont liife in finland
22:11	VanessaE	khonkhortisan: yes but in 3d you've got a whole lot more space to work with
22:11	PilzAdam	Octupus, http://pastebin.com/CXNZdfsE
22:12	* khonkhortisan	hasn't found the vertical mesecon yet
22:12	VanessaE	they aren't written yet
22:12	VanessaE	(so to go 3d you still have to build on layers of cobble or something)
22:13	khonkhortisan	I fly and worldedit for the tictactoe game
22:13	PilzAdam	you gonna take part in the mesecon competition?
22:14	NekoGloop	I am
22:14	NekoGloop	Assuming i get anything noteworthy
22:14	PilzAdam	i mean khonkhortisan
22:15	NekoGloop	I have a screen that alternates between two checker patterns and has an override button to turn all of them on.
22:15	khonkhortisan	if I was in the contest I'd be competing against temperest
22:15	PilzAdam	I am in the jury so be nice to me :-)
22:16	NekoGloop	Knowing temperest he has some giant supercomputer with 60mb+ of ram an
22:16	NekoGloop	and is fully programmable...
22:17	PilzAdam	assembler or java?
22:17	NekoGloop	Neither
22:17	khonkhortisan	that would require a change to minetest.conf to make it that big
22:17	NekoGloop	C++
22:18	PilzAdam	khonkhortisan, if you would make a computer that is programmable in java.....
22:18	VanessaE	yeah but all of temperest's designs will be outdated :-)
22:18	VanessaE	unless he's started using uC's, insulated wiring, etc anyway
22:19	PilzAdam	VanessaE, the correct spelling is myC
22:21	PilzAdam	ohh.. in english its Mu
22:21	PilzAdam	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_%28letter%29
22:21	VanessaE	nod so it's written uC
22:21	Octupus	nvm
22:21	Octupus	no
22:21	khonkhortisan	that tictactoe board he made isn't even close - you need trinary for each pixel
22:21	VanessaE	since "micro" isn't easily available on most keyboards
22:21	khonkhortisan	"ÂµC"
22:21	khonkhortisan	compose+m+u=Âµ
22:21	Basstard`	Alt Gr + m
22:22	VanessaE	khonkhortisan: and that's done on linux......how? :-)
22:22	PilzAdam	thx Basstard`
22:22	khonkhortisan	you have to set up a compose key - I made mine right alt.
22:22	iqualfragile	if you are using a neo-layout it would be mod3+tab
22:22	khonkhortisan	I'll find it
22:24	PilzAdam	http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:German-Keyboard-Layout-T2-Version1-large.png&filetimestamp=20110916231650
22:24	PilzAdam	On a german keyboard its AltGr+M
22:24	khonkhortisan	Oh, I did it in kde separate from my layout-switcher alias
22:25	iqualfragile	nope on a german quertz-layout its that
22:25	khonkhortisan	my altgr+m doesn't do Âµ
22:25	khonkhortisan	I'm stuck with compose for that
22:25	khonkhortisan	so if you have kde I can tell you how to get a compose key
22:26	Octupus	DOES ANY1 KNOW THE WAZU CLAN IRC CHAT?
22:26	khonkhortisan	I also use setxkbmap but I don't know the option
22:26	khonkhortisan	I don't know that clan
22:26	Octupus	they have a server and i wud like to know the owner'
22:27	Octupus	what truecombat?
22:28		ray8888 joined #minetest
22:29	Octupus	does any1 what truecombat is?
22:29	PilzAdam	nope
22:29	Octupus	:l
22:30	Octupus	whats every1 doing
22:30	NekoGloop	Chatting
22:30	PilzAdam	watching a vid on youtube
22:31		ray8888 left #minetest
22:31	iqualfragile	chatting with random peoples
22:31	khonkhortisan	making a mesecon tictactoe game
22:32	khonkhortisan	now that I have my router password, I'll be able to host it when it's done
22:34	iqualfragile	going to bed
22:35		VanessaE joined #minetest
22:35	PilzAdam	wb, VanessaE
22:42	VanessaE	there. now that I know I can do that, the otherwise-useless menu key just became my compose key :-)
22:50	* NekoGloop	pokes vanessae
22:50	PilzAdam	boooooooooring!
22:50	VanessaE	ow.
22:50	* Basstard`	pucks VanessaE
22:51	OldCoder	Hockey?
22:51	* NekoGloop	kicks basstard
22:51	PilzAdam	yay hockey
22:53	PilzAdam	so guys its 1am; got to sleep
22:53	PilzAdam	bye
22:53	NekoGloop	G'byw
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23:09	Isabella	hello?
23:09	NekoGloop	No
23:09	Isabella	no
23:09	Isabella	no
23:10	Isabella	no
23:10	Isabella	no
23:10	Isabella	o
23:10	Isabella	no
23:10	Isabella	n
23:10	Isabella	no
23:10	NekoGloop	...
23:10	Isabella	hehehe my dad always says that
23:10	Isabella	no
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23:17	Isabella	hellllo eeeeverrrrryboddddyyyy
23:18	* NekoGloop	pokes bella
23:19	* Isabella	yells ouch
23:21		Isabella left #minetest
23:21	VanessaE	...
23:23	NekoGloop	...
23:31	NekoGloop	I dont think i can mine stone very well with an arrow in mc
23:35	VanessaE	probably not
23:35	NekoGloop	I can its just slow and i dont get the cobble
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23:56	VanessaE	bbl

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