IRC log for #minetest, 2012-11-17

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Time	Nick	Message
00:00	Kacey	px
00:00	Kacey	oldcoder?
00:01	Kacey	realbadangel?
00:02	Kacey	ANYBODY!!!!!!!!
00:04	Kacey	:'(
00:07	NakedFury	its late where they are?
00:07	Kacey	minetest.net is down
00:12	Kacey	well celeron55, is minetest.net down for good?
00:17	telek	Kacey: No it's now.
00:17	telek	It's hamachi, apparently.
00:17	telek	Erm not.
00:17	Kacey	i cannot connect to it
00:18	telek	What is this hamachi thing anyways, and why does everybody seem to have it?
00:18	Kacey	it is a tunneling program
00:18		babyface1031 joined #minetest
00:19	Kacey	face can you connect to minetest.net
00:19	babyface1031	let me try
00:19	Kacey	k
00:19	telek	Well anyhow I think Jordach was the one who mentioned it earlier: Hamachi for whatever reason is breaking on the minetest.net website, and the only way to get around it is to completely disable the hamachi app (outside of the web browser or something)
00:20	babyface1031	yes i am in
00:20	Kacey	ooh
00:20	telek	Not using it I don't know the specifics, but it's definitely a problem on you guys side, not on the minetest.net website's side. (Well, unless you're all connecting via the same IP and it's got that ip blacklisted)
00:20	Kacey	lol no i dont have hamachi online
00:25	Kacey	ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!!!!!
00:29	telek	Oh cute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamachi_%28software%29
00:29	telek	The section on addressing is relevant.
00:29	telek	nslookup minetest.net and you'll see why hamachi users are having problems.
00:31	Kacey	?
00:37	Kacey	hey face are you on the server?
00:37	babyface1031	yes
00:37	telek	Hamachi is using 5.x.x.x IP addresses, rather than a Private range like 10.x.x.x, the 5.x.x.x IP range is publicly addressable and currently in use. Notably in this particular case, by the server hosting minetest.net
00:37	Kacey	ok
01:03	babyface1031	has anyone seen octupus on yet tonight?
01:06	telek	He was on earlier.
01:06	telek	Around 3-4 hours ago.
01:06	babyface1031	darn i probally missed him fo rthe night
01:07	telek	Yep.
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01:33		LandMine joined #minetest
01:33	LandMine	suppp peeeps
01:33	LandMine	any of you play on nublite server?
01:34	LandMine	i just owned a noob clan on there lol
01:34	LandMine	gonna wait to get there bones lol
01:38		Octupus joined #minetest
01:38	Octupus	Hola
01:41	telek	babyface1031 was just asking about you Octupus :)
01:41	LandMine	hey octupus
01:41	Octupus	:)
01:41	LandMine	im owning on nublites server lol
01:41	Octupus	Hi LandMine
01:41	Octupus	idk who dat it but okay
01:41	LandMine	lol its a new pvp server
01:41	telek	Anyways have a good night.
01:41	LandMine	where its ok to grief and kill people lol
01:41	LandMine	and they have clans or something
01:42	LandMine	i already owned 1 clan by my slef lol
01:42	LandMine	still waiting to get there bones
01:43	Octupus	can i come own ppl
01:43	LandMine	if you wanna
01:43	LandMine	i dont have anyhting for you thogh
01:43	LandMine	i just have my sword and some emppty buckets
01:43	LandMine	and apples
01:43	Octupus	can i come on
01:44	LandMine	sure
01:44	LandMine	173.77.255.219
01:44	LandMine	thats the ip on default port
01:44	LandMine	30000
01:44	Octupus	K
01:57		Kacey joined #minetest
01:58	Kacey	hello
01:58	babyface1031	hi
01:58	Kacey	has doc been on?
01:58	babyface1031	i havent seen him
01:59	Kacey	uugh well i need to talk to him'
01:59	Octupus	Hi Kacey
01:59	Kacey	hello
01:59	Kacey	guess what
02:00	Kacey	ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:01	babyface1031	did he do something on the 30004
02:01	Kacey	ya he put a protect block in my room so now i cannot build in there
02:02	babyface1031	Octupus ^ look
02:02	Kacey	i just need him to remove it
02:02	Octupus	babyface in that situtation u use worldedit
02:02	babyface1031	ok
02:02	Kacey	i need worldedit privs octu
02:03	babyface1031	Kacey can you show me where
02:03	Kacey	uuuuum well there is this thing in there but i gues you can come to me
02:03	Kacey	im still joining
02:03	babyface1031	i know about the machines
02:03	Kacey	ooh ok
02:04	Kacey	but i am still joining
02:05	babyface1031	ok
02:05	Kacey	almost on
02:05	babyface1031	Octupus how do you make protect blocks do you know
02:05	Octupus	silver
02:06	Octupus	s is silver
02:06	Octupus	- is nothing
02:06	Octupus	- - -
02:06	Octupus	s s -
02:06	Octupus	s s -
02:06	babyface1031	ty
02:06	LandMine	uuuuu babyface sup girl :3
02:06	Kacey	uh oh minetest encountered a problem
02:07	babyface1031	i get those some time i just exit all the way out and try again
02:07	Kacey	it shut itself down
02:08		M13 joined #minetest
02:08	Kacey	hey m13
02:09	M13	hey has celeron55 been on today?
02:09	Kacey	all day but he hasnt said anything y?
02:10	Octupus	face did u remove the block?
02:10	Kacey	i still have to show her
02:10	babyface1031	i am waiting on Kacey to load
02:10	Kacey	herp der[
02:10	babyface1031	but i am looking while waiting
02:10	Kacey	derp*
02:11	Kacey	random peice of cobble in the floor
02:11	Kacey	it is under that
02:12	Kacey	WTH!!!!!!
02:13	babyface1031	took it out Octupus
02:13	Octupus	Great Job babyface
02:13	Kacey	ok i know how to use the machine
02:14	Kacey	ok idea for fixing textures
02:15	Kacey	ooh hey octu i have an idea for kaceywater
02:16	Kacey	make the liquid
02:16	Kacey	sorry
02:17	Kacey	make the liquid_force stronger in the water_flowing than the water_source
02:20	Octupus	sure
02:20	Octupus	OO
02:20	Octupus	try it
02:20	LandMine	babyface1031 sup boo :)
02:20	LandMine	hehehe
02:21	LandMine	you dont have armour though
02:21	LandMine	he might kill you with 1 swing heheh
02:21	LandMine	fuck wron gwindow
02:21	Octupus	XD
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02:37		LAD joined #minetest
02:41	mrtux	NekoGloop, I got a cat :3
02:41	NekoGloop	I've heard.
02:41	mrtux	yes
02:41	mrtux	meow
02:44	NekoGloop	Tell him i said "meow" back.
02:44	mrtux	ok :)
02:45	mrtux	nekogloop, do you have any cats?
02:45	NekoGloop	Nope. :3
02:46	NekoGloop	Neko means cat in japanese though :3
02:47	NekoGloop	猫 == neko
02:53	M13	yay, minetest-m13 is working on windows
02:54	NekoGloop	I dont care.
02:57	LandMine	hi M13 :)
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03:01	Kacey	ok i am back
03:02	Kaceybot	my bot is going to take over for a while
03:07	Kacey	hey M13
03:10	Kacey	anybody alive?
03:10	NekoGloop	.... braaaaainssss....
03:11	* Kacey	slaps NekoGloop with a rainbow trout
03:11		Muadtralk joined #minetest
03:11	* Kacey	slaps Muadtralk with a big red brick
03:11	Muadtralk	what?
03:11	Kacey	idk
03:11	* Kacey	slaps Muadtralk with a rainbow trout
03:11	Kacey	i found the slap button
03:12	* Muadtralk	unleashes a hoard of oerkki to repeatedly slap Kacey
03:12	LandMine	god NekoGloop your still here? hahahaahaha
03:12	LandMine	guess your masoquist
03:17	M13	LandMine hey
03:18	M13	thnx for griefing my server again -_-
03:18	LandMine	yeah im sorry about that
03:18	LandMine	i dunno why i did it
03:18	M13	ok
03:18	M13	thanks for the sorry
03:19	M13	I except
03:19	LandMine	thanks
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03:19	M13	so how is ur server doing?
03:19	Kacey	its dead lol
03:19	LandMine	its down lol.....i just wanted to see how it went
03:19	LandMine	its not dead i just didnt want ot continue with it
03:20	LandMine	there is a difference
03:20	M13	I why?
03:20	Kacey	ooh m13 can you forward a port for me?
03:20	M13	o Why?
03:20	M13	yes
03:20	LandMine	cause its to much work haveing to run the server
03:20	LandMine	making backups
03:20	LandMine	checking for griefing
03:20	LandMine	rolling back
03:20	LandMine	and such
03:21	Kacey	ok thx
03:24	M13	i know what you mean, you have put me thuogh hell like that
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03:26	GTRsdk	hey dudes
03:27	Kacey	hello
03:27	GTRsdk	Anyone ever try intel compiler with minetest?
03:27	Kacey	no
03:27	M13	yes
03:28	M13	then again I hate Windows
03:28	GTRsdk	Did it go faster than with gcc or mingw?
03:30	M13	no it crashed
03:30	M13	use mingw
03:32	GTRsdk	I'll just use gcc if intel compiler fails to compile
03:33	OldCoder	Hi!
03:33	GTRsdk	Hello OldCoder! :D
03:33	OldCoder	GTRsdk, Good evening
03:38	GTRsdk	OldCoder: What is your preferred compiler & compilers of use?
03:39	OldCoder	GTRsdk, writing answer:
03:39	OldCoder	GTRsdk, depends on language and context. For C and C++ it's usually the gcc family.
03:40	OldCoder	Sometimes others
03:40	OldCoder	But gcc has captured most of the market so to speak
03:40	GTRsdk	yeah
03:40	GTRsdk	I'm attemping to compile minetest with icc (intel compiler) right now
03:40	GTRsdk	hope it works :-)
03:41	GTRsdk	using -O3 and -xSSE3_ATOM flags
03:43	GTRsdk	so ideally
03:43	GTRsdk	I would get a few more FPS
03:44	GTRsdk	but unfortunately... I would not be able to fully experience the game because the cracks are growing
03:44	OldCoder	Hmm
03:44	OldCoder	I used that compiler years ago
03:44	OldCoder	Don't have a copy presently
03:54	GTRsdk	99 %
03:54	GTRsdk	100%
03:55	GTRsdk	100%
03:55	GTRsdk	done
03:56	GTRsdk	and now it's running
03:56	NekoGloop	If you compile on windows, you're gonna get <10fps
03:57	GTRsdk	on Linux
03:57	NekoGloop	Well then you automagically get more FPS because minetest can detect what OS you compiled it on.
03:59	GTRsdk	this is awesome. I go full view mode and I get faster than Minecraft singpleplayer style
04:02	GTRsdk	I'm going to see how fast it goes multiplayer...
04:03	hmmmm	ha ha
04:03	hmmmm	you guys think that some sort of super optimized compiler is going to make minetest faster
04:03	hmmmm	i pity the foo
04:04	GTRsdk	well it's worth a try
04:04	GTRsdk	honestly I think either my CPU is crap or Intel has exaggerated the speeds
04:04	GTRsdk	though probably both
04:04	hmmmm	have you ever thought that minetest was just coded very unoptimally?
04:05	hmmmm	the thing i'm working on fixes that - it's got bugs, but it's tough to debug because you can't optimize which makes it slow
04:05	NekoGloop	hmmmm: This.
04:05	hmmmm	everything is in place
04:06	hmmmm	I guess i could commit what i have done to my repository and let someone else figure it out
04:06	hmmmm	i'm sort of busy with school at the moment, which is why i've been gone for a while there
04:06	hmmmm	you know it's funny, i was planning to have this _released_ on halloween day
04:07	hmmmm	shit comes up in life that you cannot control, however
04:07	NekoGloop	I thought you were releasing it next halloween?
04:07	hmmmm	ha.. no
04:07	NekoGloop	Would be just as effiecient has others' coding.
04:07	hmmmm	nothing takes a year
04:07	NekoGloop	s/has/as
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04:13	GTRsdk	hmm... intel compiler seems to have helped just by a little
04:17	OldCoder	I will try it
04:17	OldCoder	ty for the test GTRsdk
04:19	GTRsdk	1.5 GB (warning) to download
04:21	GTRsdk	I love how I press enter to launch minetest and it loads instantly
04:24	OldCoder	Hmm
04:24	OldCoder	But what flags will produce a good generic client?
04:24	GTRsdk	good generic client? maybe -O2 or -O3
04:24	GTRsdk	to be honest it said it was resetting some stuff
04:24	GTRsdk	which I assume included the flags
04:24	GTRsdk	going to check...
04:26	GTRsdk	yeah minetest tried to compile with gcc flags
04:27	GTRsdk	so all that -xSSE3_ATOM wasn;t used
04:27	GTRsdk	going to recompile with that....
04:28	GTRsdk	recompiling now
04:50	SmugLeaf	-O2
04:50	SmugLeaf	23:03:36 < hmmmm> you guys think that some sort of super optimized compiler is going to make minetest faster
04:50	SmugLeaf	23:03:41 < hmmmm> i pity the foo
04:51	SmugLeaf	MS compiler beats gcc by like 15 fps on my netbook
04:54	hmmmm	gcc is typically faster than MSVC... what version of gcc are you using?
04:54	hmmmm	i reckon things aren't as optimal as they should be because you're using MingW (you are, right?)
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05:03	VanessaE	boo!
05:03	RealBadAngel	87
05:03	RealBadAngel
05:03	RealBadAngel
05:03	RealBadAngel
05:03	RealBadAngel	hehehe
05:04	VanessaE	spacing out? :-)
05:04	RealBadAngel	i was so scared ;)
05:05	VanessaE	so what's news?
05:05		idoru left #minetest
05:05	RealBadAngel	hmmmz
05:05	RealBadAngel	weekend
05:05	RealBadAngel	its brand new
05:05	RealBadAngel	almost not used
05:05	VanessaE	heh
05:06	VanessaE	only 6 minutes of usage here ;-)
05:06	RealBadAngel	here 6hrs and 6 minutes
05:06	RealBadAngel	thats why "almost"
05:07	RealBadAngel	im on C++ hooks for keyboard inputs
05:07	VanessaE	cool
05:08	RealBadAngel	Taoki needs them to control the player visual animations
05:08	RealBadAngel	and i want to cook two dishes at once
05:09	RealBadAngel	adding secondary right click event
05:09	RealBadAngel	and shift modifier
05:10	RealBadAngel	so for example click on move from inv to inv with click gonna move all stuff of same kind
05:10	RealBadAngel	*with shift
05:10	RealBadAngel	or craft max stack
05:11	VanessaE	cool
05:12	VanessaE	that could be useful.
05:12	RealBadAngel	unloading when got back from mining is pain in the ass
05:12	VanessaE	when you'
05:12	VanessaE	when you're done with that, give us per-nodebox rotation and texturing please :-)
05:12	RealBadAngel	with it you will open cobble chest, one click and move all the cobble
05:13	RealBadAngel	its done already by c55
05:13	VanessaE	since when?
05:13	RealBadAngel	1,5 month?
05:13	VanessaE	when last I asked about it, he basically said "no fucking way".
05:14	RealBadAngel	ah
05:14	VanessaE	can you link to the commit that added this?  I'm confused?
05:14	RealBadAngel	maybe he left those glitches
05:14	RealBadAngel	he messed up with changing node's neigbours too
05:14	VanessaE	what do you mean?
05:14	VanessaE	(screenshot?)
05:15	RealBadAngel	and propably waitin for some1 to debug his code
05:15	RealBadAngel	om
05:15	RealBadAngel	https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/meta_set_nodedef
05:15	RealBadAngel	its 2 months old already
05:15	VanessaE	oh that.
05:15	VanessaE	not what I meant.
05:16	RealBadAngel	it does what you meant
05:16	RealBadAngel	ability of changing textures and nodeboxes on the fly
05:17	RealBadAngel	only thing c55 fucked up there are coords
05:17	VanessaE	I mean in the register_node() call, he should add something like:  nodebox=blahblah ...  {x1, y1, z1, x2, y2, z2, roll, pitch, yaw, images={"file_y+.png","file_y-.png", ... "file_z-.png"} }
05:18	VanessaE	so the nodebox defiled by {x1, ..., z2} would get the six textures in the internal images={} field, and then be rotated by pitch/yaw/roll
05:18	VanessaE	and let each individual nodebox be defined like that
05:18	VanessaE	so that for example, those valves in pipeworks could have say red handles without the texture leaking down to the boxes below them
05:19	RealBadAngel	now i got the point
05:19	RealBadAngel	but anyway above mentioned patch should be fixed and merged
05:19	VanessaE	make sense?
05:19	RealBadAngel	before your ideas could be done
05:20	VanessaE	perhaps.
05:20	RealBadAngel	for sure
05:20	RealBadAngel	that will solve 2 things
05:20	RealBadAngel	1st get rid of multiple node definitions
05:21	RealBadAngel	2nd ABILITY to change node
05:21	VanessaE	this change would also allow, for example, a mesecons wall lever with a handle that sticks out at an angle and has its own wooden texture among the stone in the body of the device, or say a 3d torch that sticks out at an angle from the wall, without having to be made of dozens of little voxels.
05:21	VanessaE	(while the flame still sits atop it at a differnet angle)
05:21	VanessaE	different*
05:21	RealBadAngel	yes
05:22	VanessaE	yeah yeah, minecraft-like, but sometimes that's okay to do.
05:22	RealBadAngel	apply the change to nodebox without havin to redefine it
05:22	RealBadAngel	and have it hardcoded before in fact
05:23	RealBadAngel	this will allow also nodebox animations
05:23	VanessaE	not a bad idea, come to think of it.
05:23	RealBadAngel	moving parts of the machines, like pumps
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05:23	VanessaE	now those guys who want a chest to appear to slowly swing open could have such.
05:23	RealBadAngel	motors etc
05:24	RealBadAngel	easily then
05:24	RealBadAngel	just a few frames
05:25	RealBadAngel	can you do those frames actually?
05:26	VanessaE	huh?
05:26	RealBadAngel	i mean define chests top at different positions?
05:26	VanessaE	not at present.
05:26	VanessaE	afaik there's no way to modify the look of a chest while it's open.
05:27	RealBadAngel	the patch ;)
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05:27	RealBadAngel	it allows it
05:27	* VanessaE	staples ecube to his chair.  Sit still damn it.
05:27	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: ok, so fix and push it ;)
05:27	VanessaE	then get to work on my idea :)
05:28	RealBadAngel	first im goin offline to finish the keyboard hooks
05:28	VanessaE	have fun
05:28	RealBadAngel	talkin and coding doesnt go in pairs
05:29	VanessaE	no, but one can help the other.
05:29	RealBadAngel	when im done with keyboard stuff im gonna fix c55 patch
05:29	RealBadAngel	yup when youre stuck
05:29	* VanessaE	pours glue on RealBadAngel's feet
05:29	VanessaE	there, now you're stuck ;)
05:29	RealBadAngel	i will return in case of being stuck :)
05:30	RealBadAngel	lol
05:30	* RealBadAngel	leaves stuck shoes there and walkin away...
05:30	VanessaE	haha
05:30	VanessaE	ok, cya
05:31	RealBadAngel	bbl
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06:23	Doc22	i cant answer the spam questions
06:23	Doc22	the one that says what is the name backwards
06:23	VanessaE	why not?
06:23	Doc22	i typed tsetenim
06:24	Doc22	and the previous stable version
06:24	VanessaE	haven't seen that one yet.
06:24	Doc22	i tried 0.4
06:24	Doc22	4.3
06:24	Doc22	3.0
06:24	VanessaE	"previous stable" would have been 0.3.1
06:24	Doc22	4.2
06:24	Doc22	3.1
06:24	VanessaE	or 0.4.3 for current stable.
06:24	Doc22	ok
06:24	Doc22	thanks
06:24	VanessaE	(at least I think 0.4.3 is what it considers to be current stable)
06:24	Doc22	i tried 3.1
06:24	VanessaE	NO
06:24	Doc22	it doesnt work
06:24	VanessaE	not "3.1"
06:25	VanessaE	zero point three point one
06:25	Doc22	ok ok
06:25	VanessaE	0.3.1
06:25	Doc22	it says what is last stable(n.n)\
06:25	Doc22	that threw me
06:25	VanessaE	then it would have been 0.3
06:25	Doc22	0.3.1 didnt work
06:25	VanessaE	never never never NEVER leave off the leading zero-point
06:26	* VanessaE	<--- extremely picky about this subject.
06:26	Doc22	or 0.3
06:26	Doc22	pl
06:26	Doc22	ok*
06:26	VanessaE	odd that 0.3 didn't work; try the full number.
06:26	Doc22	i tried 0.3.1
06:26	VanessaE	or just create an account and don't clear your cookies.
06:26	Doc22	pl
06:26	Doc22	ok
06:27	Doc22	0.3.0 didnt work
06:27	Doc22	What is a minetest add-on called?
06:27	Doc22	thats a new question
06:27	Doc22	i tried mod
06:27	VanessaE	aw come on, you should know that.
06:27	Doc22	i dont know...
06:27	Doc22	and yet im amkign them
06:27	Doc22	making
06:28	VanessaE	"mod" is correct actually, so something must have broken in the capthca itself.
06:28	Doc22	hmmm
06:29	Doc22	well for "What is the name of the game in reverse?" I tried "tsetenim"
06:29	Doc22	didnt work
06:29	VanessaE	try 55ctsetenim
06:29	Doc22	tried that too but maybe i typed it different
06:29	VanessaE	(since everyone calls it minetestc55)
06:29	Doc22	nope
06:29	Doc22	must be broken
06:30	Doc22	(that means no update for my mod :'(
06:30	Doc22	wait i did that
06:30	Doc22	so no answer to my question
06:30	VanessaE	like I said, create an account.
06:30	Doc22	a new one?
06:30	VanessaE	oh, you already have one eh?
06:30	Doc22	I made one
06:30	Doc22	yeah
06:31	Doc22	its Doc
06:31	Doc22	without 22
06:31	VanessaE	log in with it, argue your way through the spamblock, then it'll stop asking you once you get it right the first time as long as you don't clear your cookies.
06:31	Doc22	i have gotten it right for 18 posts or so
06:31	Doc22	but the new questions wont work
06:32	Doc22	i can answer "who is the developer"
06:32	Doc22	celeron55
06:32	Doc22	and it works
06:32	Doc22	but none of the others
06:32	Doc22	and i havent cleared my cookies
06:33	Doc22	after posting 15 minutes ago
06:33	VanessaE	weird.
06:33	Doc22	can you fix it?
06:33	Doc22	or see if it works for you
06:34	VanessaE	I don't have access to that, and I never see the security questions lately.
06:34	Doc22	ok
06:34	VanessaE	already left a note for c55 to look into it.
06:34	Doc22	well then I don't know what ill do until then...
06:34	Doc22	the post was a question so can you anser it
06:35	Doc22	oh great the post i typed is gone
06:35	Doc22	unless i get through the captcha
06:36	VanessaE	I always keep my longer posts in a text editor until they make it through, just in such cases.
06:36	Doc22	i never had that kind of trouble with captca
06:36	Doc22	captcha
06:37	Doc22	I wonder why "who is the author" works but no others
06:37	VanessaE	dunno
06:38	Doc22	can you help me
06:38	Doc22	http://pastebin.com/hNQWXPpK
06:38	Doc22	it has the error
06:39	Doc22	I already tried renaming it from add_node to add_craftitem
06:39	Doc22	it doesnt work
06:39	VanessaE	looking...
06:40	Doc22	and also why hasn't my chains mod post been added to modding releases
06:40	Doc22	i included licence
06:40	Doc22	and depends
06:41	Doc22	and download
06:41	VanessaE	well for starters, you shouldn't use tile_images.  use tiles={} instead.
06:41	Doc22	ok
06:41	VanessaE	as for Mod Releases, you have to post a request to get it moved.
06:41	VanessaE	still reading...
06:41	Doc22	but why is it saying unexpected character
06:42	VanessaE	also, be sure you nest your ifs.
06:42	VanessaE	if xxxx then
06:42	VanessaE	blah blah
06:42	VanessaE	end
06:42	VanessaE	like thaty
06:42	Doc22	oh o
06:42	Doc22	ok
06:42	VanessaE	it makes the code more readable.
06:42	Doc22	i see how that works
06:42	Doc22	and that way it doesnt go through stone
06:42	VanessaE	two or four spaces, or a tab is the preferred way to indent.
06:42	VanessaE	it won't affect whether the code runs, but it'll make it more readable.
06:43	Doc22	I nested them
06:43	Doc22	ok
06:44	VanessaE	AH
06:44	VanessaE	you forgot to 'end' your on_construct() call.
06:44	VanessaE	that's why you properly indent your code :-)
06:45	Doc22	oh ok
06:45	Doc22	lol
06:45	VanessaE	stick an 'end' in between lines 57 and 58.
06:46	Doc22	ahh
06:46	Doc22	hmmm
06:46	Doc22	on_place isnt calling it
06:46	Doc22	when i right click
06:47	VanessaE	why would it?  on_place is not the same as on_construct
06:47	Doc22	ill just make it a node
06:47	Doc22	and test it
06:47	VanessaE	take a look at the code for my doors in homedecor
06:48	VanessaE	they use on_place() and do some proper checks before placing two nodes at a time.
06:48	VanessaE	might give you some idea of what you're doing wrong
06:48	Doc22	ok
06:48	VanessaE	https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/blob/master/door_glass.lua
06:48	VanessaE	like 76
06:49	VanessaE	line 76
06:49	Doc22	ok
06:49	Doc22	ahh i see what you mean by nesting
06:50	VanessaE	(you don't have to do those extra checks for node_ownership or protection if you don't want to, but if you're gonna place multiple nodes with one on_place() call, you probably should.
06:50	VanessaE	that way your mod works well in a multi-user server.
06:50	VanessaE	)
06:52	VanessaE	good luck.  I'm off to bed now.
06:53	Doc22	good night
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09:43	Jordach	hello all
09:47	FreeFull	Hi
09:51	Jordach	hello Taoki
09:52	Taoki	hi :)
09:52	Jordach	did you have a go at fixing the right arm texture?
09:52	Jordach	s/right/left
09:55	Taoki	Yes. I re-created the left arm from a mirror of the right one
09:56	Jordach	sweet
09:56	Jordach	:D
09:57	Jordach	hm, im thinking of having different skins for like, admin, priv-giver, player, moderator, (and of course custom :) )
09:58	Jordach	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3587 Taoki - this allows player skin changing
09:59	Jordach	ill firgg around with it
09:59	Jordach	s/firgg/frigg
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10:08	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
10:10	Jordach	hello PilzAdam
10:15	Taoki	Jordach: Nice. But some changes might be needed for the 3D models
10:16	Jordach	i guessed
10:16	Jordach	also: LUA needs C++ bindings to detect keypresses
10:16	Taoki	Jordach: First of all, I don't want us to take the MC way and allow changing only textures. But both mesh and textures, so custom player models are just as easy the same way
10:16	Taoki	Yes, RealBadAngel will take a look at these hooks he's good at lua
10:17	Jordach	ask Mr. Adam
10:18	Taoki	Ok. Second, I'd suggest making an actual menu for the selector. Lua allows for custom menus
10:19	Taoki	An additional idea: Making a craftable wardrobe node, which the player right-clicks to change their appearance
10:19	Jordach	yes!
10:19	Taoki	Or can be part of the inventory menu
10:19	Jordach	more original
10:20	Taoki	indeed
10:20	Jordach	actually, have it like armour
10:20	VanessaE	+1 for being part of the inventory
10:20	Taoki	Can be two nodes even: Wardrobe to change texture, and some plastic surgery machine to change models
10:20	Taoki	Intentory is as good too however
10:20	Taoki	But craftable nodes would be more interesting
10:23	Taoki	This could allow for some interesting ideas as well, as optional mods. For instance: Imagine killing a mob to steal its identity / 3D model
10:26	PilzAdam	I have some ideas how to call the player animation in Lua:
10:26	PilzAdam	check the walking/digging thinks for players in the c++ code and then call Lua functions
10:27	PilzAdam	the functions can be stored in the userdata that is passed to Lua
10:28	PilzAdam	and Lua can override the default functions when different animations are wanted
10:29	OldCoder	VanessaE, should you not be asleep?
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10:30	KikaRz	Good morning?
10:30	KikaRz	Hi sfan5.
10:31	sfan5	hi
10:31	Taoki	PilzAdam: Sounds good. RBA's idea is similar I think... that's making a player_state function which changes whenever the player does something else.
10:32	Taoki	Or, the simpler way is simply checking pressed keys. Would work nicely
10:32	PilzAdam	but still: the default animattions should be done in builtin or core
10:32	jin_xi_	he said earlier he's offline to better concentrate on coding the keypress hooks in C++
10:33	Jordach	yeah, the default anim hooks should be c++
10:34	Taoki	I'd prefer builtin. But that is hard
10:35	Taoki	Remember: Each model can have its own animation ranges, and players can wear multiple models. Mods might also add in their own animations.
10:35	PilzAdam	keep it the same way it currently is: default player visuals are coded in core but you can modify it with the API (see my 3D player/different textures for players mod
10:36	Taoki	It's how it's done currently. Hard-coded default is still the sprite player
10:39	Taoki	need to go now, bbl
10:43	cosarara97	celeron55, are you here?
10:45	KikaRz	Can't enter to minetest.net ? Just try to enter by here : http://www.unblock-proxy.net/permalink.php?url=he30Wfs%2BcWHpiSuxguv0OxTrGk21DoJRDo4gbqD4s%2BU%3D
10:45	FreeFull	Wut
10:45	FreeFull	minetest.net works fine
10:46	cosarara97	yeah, it's just the stop bots plugin, which doesn't let me post
10:48	FreeFull	You must have not answered the question correctly
10:49	sfan5	the pun stop bot question plugin is a bit buggy
10:49	KikaRz	FreeFull
10:49	KikaRz	People that got Hamachi, can't enter.
10:49	FreeFull	Oh
10:49	KikaRz	Like me, and many of people that got Hamachi servers.
10:49	FreeFull	That's weird
10:50	KikaRz	When next Hamachi update comes, we can enter the minetest.net correctly.
10:50	Jordach	KikaRz - just remove hamachi, problem solved
10:50	Jordach	its not hard to port forward
10:50	KikaRz	Nope.
10:50	KikaRz	I'm not going to remove it.
10:50	KikaRz	i use it to chat.
10:51	KikaRz	now , step aside please, im going to build.
10:52	sfan5	killall hamachid solved anything :D
10:53	PilzAdam	kill 1 all problems solved ;-)
10:55	FreeFull	kill 1   doesn't actually do anything =P
10:55	FreeFull	At least not on init-based systems
10:55	PilzAdam	never tried
10:55	FreeFull	You have to be cleverer than that to kill init
10:58	VanessaE	there, now that I'm finally done with the mess known as our computer room
10:58	VanessaE	um...hi? :-)
11:00	cosarara97	hi
11:03	VanessaE	(the whole floor of the room briefly became a staging area while I tore my power chair apart to find and fix a bad micro switch...plus two boxes of misc stuff so I could dig out my meter)
11:03	Jordach	hello VanessaE
11:03	VanessaE	hey Jordach.
11:03	Jordach	me and Taoki worked on the 3d player textures
11:03	VanessaE	I saw, nice work
11:11	Jordach	VanessaE - to be completely honest, i used a non-foss minecraft skin editor
11:11	VanessaE	that's okay
11:11	VanessaE	sometimes closed-source is the right tool for the job.
11:11	Jordach	we came across a license problem, i just darkened the jeans and added for mt in the corner
11:12	VanessaE	you should look into the one used in Misa's texture pack, since he/she already gave permission to use the rest of it in minetest.
11:12	VanessaE	(might have to pipe that request through Calinou though)
11:17	Jordach	VanessaE - we solved it already
11:18	Jordach	but then calinou will act a little high
11:18	Jordach	(as in mighty)
11:18	Jordach	and we dont want hdx like textures
11:18	VanessaE	:P
11:20	VanessaE	ok, time for me to go to bed now.  For real this time.
11:21	VanessaE	good night.
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12:03	OldCoder	Hmm
12:03	OldCoder	I'm falling asleep again. Look forward to chatting later though.
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12:53	KikaRz	Hi there
12:53	KikaRz	why i got Access violation when i enter into a server?
12:55	KikaRz	console: Access Violation at 004F9713 write?=0 address=0 - In Trans_func
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13:39	OdnetninI	Are you here PilzAdam ?
13:41	PilzAdam	OdnetninI, yes
13:41	OdnetninI	Ok, I've put this code
13:41	OdnetninI	http://pastebin.com/dZmSxjZN
13:41	OdnetninI	in you mobs mod
13:42	OdnetninI	but doesn't appear
13:42	KikaRz	who knows a good 0.3.1, 0.4.1, 0.4.3 server?
13:42	KikaRz	(redcrab: i lost my password)
13:43	PilzAdam	OdnetninI, it does only spawn on the sand from the mod brillaint blocks; is that correct?
13:43	OdnetninI	yes
13:43	PilzAdam	is there enough sand of this type in the map?
13:44	OdnetninI	I put my own sand y a place, wich i want that they appears
13:44	OdnetninI	I change 600 to 7000
13:45	OdnetninI	but the same result, I wait, but nothing
13:45	PilzAdam	try chance 100
13:46	PilzAdam	how many sand nodes are there?
13:46	OdnetninI	4x4 blocks
13:46	OdnetninI	sorry
13:46	OdnetninI	4x5
13:46	KikaRz	Who knows a good server? or a freebuild server?
13:47	PilzAdam	then you should set the chance to 20-80
13:47	PilzAdam	(20 = many mobs; 80 = less mobs)
13:47	OdnetninI	ok
13:47	OdnetninI	mobs:register_spawn("mobs:ninja", {"brilliant_blocks:sand"}, 8, -1, 20, 40, 31000)
13:47	OdnetninI	?
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13:47	PilzAdam	yep, should work
13:48	OdnetninI	KikaRz, talk with OldCoder
13:48	KikaRz	OldCoder, hi.
13:48	KikaRz	You know a good server ? or a freebuild server?
13:48	PilzAdam	OdnetninI, also be sure that no players are in the mobs_per_30_block_radius
13:49	KikaRz	[13:48] == OldCoder is away: Zzz
13:50	Muadtralk	minetest.sytes.net:30000 survival 30001 other
13:50	KikaRz	i dont want survival
13:50	Muadtralk	then go on other
13:51	KikaRz	ok
13:51	OdnetninI	It can work if i put 0 in mobs per 30 block radius?
13:51	KikaRz	its your»
13:51	KikaRz	?
13:51	Muadtralk	yes its mine
13:51	KikaRz	what mods he got?
13:51	PilzAdam	OdnetninI, no, if a player is in a radius of 30 blocks the mob wont spawn
13:51	OdnetninI	mmm
13:51	KikaRz	joiningf
13:51	PilzAdam	or you can write your own ABM to spawn mobs
13:52	OdnetninI	what number, do you recomend to put in mobs_per_30_block_radius
13:52	PilzAdam	dunno
13:52	KikaRz	frozen in 67% media
13:54	OdnetninI	--if count > mobs_per_30_block_radius then --return --end
13:54	OdnetninI	i comment this, to remove limitation
13:55	PilzAdam	OdnetninI, remove this: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/blob/master/api.lua#L371
13:55	OdnetninI	ok
13:57	OdnetninI	Now yes
13:57	OdnetninI	thanks
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14:59	KikaRz	Welcome back Jordach
15:18	Muadtralk	tell me can anyone attempt to compile this https://bitbucket.org/minetestclassicteam/minetest-classic for windows?
15:23	RealBadAngel	wb
15:24	RealBadAngel	Muadtralk, ask sfan5
15:24	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, wheat textures?
15:24	sfan5	Muadtralk: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/classic/minetest-classic-0.2.20120803-b6d1602c0e6f-win32.7z
15:24	RealBadAngel	will be done today, its a promise
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15:29	Muadtralk	sfan5 it never worked if my memory serves
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15:31	sfan5	hm
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15:34	KikaRz	sfan5
15:34	KikaRz	its compatible with d3d?
15:34	sfan5	yes
15:34	KikaRz	:D
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15:38	KikaRz	d3d not working :(
15:38	KikaRz	INFO: Settings: Setting not found: "enable-unittests" INFO: Settings: Setting not found: "server"
15:38	KikaRz	INFO: Initial run of init_mapnode with g_texturesource=NULL. If this segfaults, there is a bug with something not checking for the NULL value.
15:41	sfan5	KikaRz: give me the error mesage
15:41	KikaRz	debug?
15:41	KikaRz	when i start with openGL
15:41	KikaRz	it crashes
15:42	KikaRz	when i try to start with direct3d it crashes too, but dont appear any screen of login, ip, port...
15:42	KikaRz	wait
15:42	KikaRz	uploading to pastebin
15:42	sfan5	the build seems to be broken
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15:47	Kacey	hello
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15:48	Kacey	hello
15:48	* Kacey	slaps milleja46 with a rainbow trout
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15:49	KikaRz	Hi Kacey.
15:49	Kacey	hello
15:49	KikaRz	sfan5, i can't enter in D3D mode because: DIRECT3D9 is not compiled in this DLL
15:49	sfan5	hm
15:50	KikaRz	and in OpenGL, when i press Start Game, it closes and says:
15:50	KikaRz	Creating Server
15:50	KikaRz	Creating CLient
15:50	Kacey	that is good
15:50	KikaRz	Invalid file Handle. Error is 3.
15:50	Kacey	thatis not
15:50	KikaRz	KaKacey, its for Minetest Classic
15:51	sfan5	Invalid file Handle is not a real error
15:51	KikaRz	it says that.
15:51	Kacey	minetest classic? you mean 0.3.1?
15:51	KikaRz	No
15:51	Kacey	what version?
15:52	KikaRz	http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/classic/minetest-classic-0.2.20120803-b6d1602c0e6f-win32.7z
15:52	KikaRz	0.2
15:52	KikaRz	that is for win32
15:52	KikaRz	for linux i dont have it
15:52	Kacey	i had that once
15:52	sfan5	it does not work
15:52	KikaRz	so
15:53	KikaRz	how i make it working?
15:53	sfan5	dunno
15:53	KikaRz	you passed it to... i'veforgotthenameofmyfriend
15:53	KikaRz	he requested you if you know compiling classic to windows
15:53	KikaRz	and you gave him that link
15:53	KikaRz	and he passed me it
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15:55	Doc22	Hey vanessae hey oldcoder
15:55	Kacey	hey doc
15:55	Doc22	hey kacey
15:55	Kacey	i am using the machine in my room
15:55	Doc22	have you noticed that the captcha is messed up on the forum
15:55	Doc22	i entered the correct thing
15:55	Doc22	and even asked vanessa about it
15:56	Doc22	is it messing up for you
15:56	Kacey	had an issue with a protect node that you placed in my room but got that taken care of
15:56	Doc22	oh im sorry bout that
15:56	Kacey	well for me minetest.net is down...
15:56	KikaRz	use this:
15:56	Doc22	i made a campfire mod but since I can't get past broken capthcha...
15:56	Doc22	i guess ill have to wait
15:56	KikaRz	http://www.unblock-proxy.net/permalink.php?url=he30Wfs%2BcWHpiSuxguv0OxTrGk21DoJRDo4gbqD4s%2BU%3D
15:56	PilzAdam	Doc22, read the log of #minetest-dev, c55 said something about the forum captcha
15:57	Doc22	ill have a look
15:57	KikaRz	Or, if you don't want uninstall Hamachi
15:57	KikaRz	use this http://www.unblock-proxy.net/permalink.php?url=he30Wfs%2BcWHpiSuxguv0OxTrGk21DoJRDo4gbqD4s%2BU%3D
15:57	Doc22	I dont have hamachi
15:57	KikaRz	not you
15:57	KikaRz	Kacey
15:57	Kacey	i turned hamachi off lol
15:57	KikaRz	not that only
15:57	KikaRz	you need to uninstall it
15:57	KikaRz	or
15:57	KikaRz	using this: http://www.unblock-proxy.net/permalink.php?url=he30Wfs%2BcWHpiSuxguv0OxTrGk21DoJRDo4gbqD4s%2BU%3D
15:57	Doc22	oh ok
15:57	Doc22	lol
15:58	Doc22	ok pilz ill read logs
15:58	KikaRz	going to test minetest 0.0.1
15:58	KikaRz	xd
15:59	KikaRz	http://c55.me/minetest/oldsite/packages/win32/
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15:59	KikaRz	Welcome Octupus
15:59	Octupus	Hola
16:00	KikaRz	Bienvenido
16:00	Kacey	hey octu
16:01	Doc22	19:42 celeron55:  some guy emails me saying he is having a problem with the forum captcha
16:01	Doc22	is that it pilzadam
16:01	KikaRz	Yea
16:01	KikaRz	me too
16:01	Doc22	hmmm
16:01	Doc22	I made a mod but now I can't even post it...
16:02	Octupus	Hi Kacey
16:02	PilzAdam	Doc22, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-11-17#i_2636848
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16:02	babyface1031	hey Octupus
16:02	Doc22	ok thanks
16:03	Octupus	Hi babyface1031
16:03	Doc22	wow i got all of them right
16:03	Doc22	but i thought I was wrong
16:03	Octupus	Hi Doc22
16:04	Doc22	oh hey octu :0
16:04	KikaRz	sfan5, there isnt any alternative classic?
16:04	KikaRz	Going to build a map :D
16:04	sfan5	what do you mean?
16:04	KikaRz	A working one
16:04	Octupus	Doc did u see what happened on da server
16:05	babyface1031	no he hasnt been on yet
16:05	Octupus	Ok
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16:05	Kacey	what happened
16:05	Octupus	nothing really
16:06	Octupus	just had to revoke some teleport prvs
16:06	Kacey	from who
16:06	Octupus	Doc
16:06	Kacey	y
16:06	Octupus	he didnt listen to babyface
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16:07	Doc22	oh what happened
16:07	Kacey	ooh
16:07	Octupus	Hi Calinou
16:07	KikaRz	Calinou, can you give me privs in your server?
16:07	KikaRz	i've already replied on forum
16:07	Doc22	wait what?
16:07	Doc22	octupus what happened
16:07	Calinou	hi
16:08	Doc22	hey calinou
16:08	Doc22	octupus
16:08	Doc22	my brother tanker44 says i griefed...
16:08	Octupus	Doc babyface1031 asked u to fill her lava moat she told me that u placed lava i the moat and in other places
16:08	Doc22	after i fixed the moat
16:08	Doc22	i didnt
16:08	Doc22	i only filled the moat
16:08	Doc22	I placed a stone tower
16:08	Octupus	babyface1031,^
16:08	Doc22	and made lava
16:09	Doc22	but it was as a fountain
16:09	Doc22	not griefing
16:09	Kacey	im making copper wires
16:09	Doc22	all I did is fill the moat
16:09	Octupus	well if it was that then maybe u shud have notified her b4 doing so
16:09	Doc22	i didnt even know about this
16:09	Octupus	and Kacey said u placed a protect block in her house
16:09	Octupus	*his
16:09	Kacey	IM A FREAKING GUY!!!!!
16:10	Doc22	what?
16:10	Doc22	where
16:10	Doc22	kacey
16:10	Doc22	where did it get placed
16:10	Kacey	there was a protect node in my room but we got that fixed
16:10	Doc22	oh well if i did then I am sorry
16:10	Kacey	under a peice of cobble in my floor
16:10	Doc22	I dont remember doing that
16:10	Kacey	it was owned by u
16:10	Doc22	oh you mean in the duplicator room
16:11	Doc22	I did that so i could test it
16:11	Kacey	ya that is my room
16:11	Doc22	and i forgot to remove it
16:11	Kacey	well y does there have to be a protect node anyway?
16:11	Doc22	it is what makes it work
16:11	Doc22	its a glitch
16:11	Kacey	ooh
16:11	Doc22	the sticky piston dupes if it is a certain distance away and it pulls a block
16:12	Kacey	cool
16:12	Doc22	so octupus are you really banning me?
16:12	Kacey	please dont...
16:12	KikaRz	Calinou, did you already granted me interact privs?
16:12	Octupus	Doc i didnt
16:12	Octupus	i just removed your tp privs
16:12	Kacey	ok thank you
16:12	Calinou	no, connecting to the server is VERY slow thanks to connection throttling issue when downloading cache
16:12	Calinou	erm, media
16:13	KikaRz	ok
16:13	Doc22	why? for forgetting to remove a protect node during testing
16:13	Octupus	Calinou,coders build can fix that slow loading
16:13	Kacey	no that isnt bad just took a couple secs
16:13	Octupus	No Doc22,it is because of the lava issue
16:13	Doc22	I just wanted it protected until kacey came on so she could place it
16:13	Doc22	oh well I didnt do it
16:13	Kacey	i am a GUY!!!!
16:13	Octupus	but u will get it back once i can get nto the server
16:13	Doc22	unless you are upset with the tower
16:14	Doc22	ill join
16:14	Doc22	and you show me where it was
16:14	Kacey	twait a TOWER!!!!! where?!?!
16:14	Octupus	i am not online though
16:14	OldCoder	Hi
16:14	Calinou	hi OldCoder :)
16:14	Kacey	hello
16:14	Octupus	Hi OldCoder
16:14	Doc22	I made a tower with lava
16:14	OldCoder	Oh geez
16:14	Doc22	but it was for decoration
16:14	OldCoder	And?
16:14	OldCoder	Is the world still there?
16:14	Octupus	thats why babyface complained
16:14	Doc22	they accuse me of "lava griefing"
16:14	OldCoder	Is the world still there?
16:14	Kacey	i am getting off of irc it is lagging my computer
16:15	Doc22	-_-
16:15	OldCoder	Doc22, what is status of world?
16:15	Calinou	since when IRC lags your computer..
16:15	OldCoder	Hmm
16:15	Doc22	the world is fine
16:15	Calinou	(except if you use mIRC; that's normal.)
16:15	Octupus	Doc22,not lava griefing
16:15	Octupus	Adding lava into a place where u shudnt
16:15	OldCoder	Do we need to WorldEdit it away?
16:15	OldCoder	Octupus, there is a possible solution BTW to the WorldEdit bugs discussed previously
16:15	Octupus	TNo Tanker44 fixed it
16:16	Doc22	gosh this is stupid
16:16	Octupus	O cool
16:16	OldCoder	Octupus, Uberi says that turning on full range with R
16:16	Doc22	(oh no a fountain of lava)
16:16	OldCoder	before //save or //metasave
16:16	Doc22	this makes me sick
16:16	OldCoder	May prevent the loss of pieces
16:16	OldCoder	Doc22, relax
16:16	Octupus	O
16:16	OldCoder	Does anything need to be done about Lava Tower?
16:16	Octupus	tanker removed it
16:16	OldCoder	I think I better back up all the worlds now
16:16	OldCoder	All Worlds Going Down
16:16	Doc22	If it is such a threat to the people that may jump into it ill remove it
16:16	OldCoder	Everybody Out Of The Pool!
16:17	babyface1031	everything is fixed @oOldCoder
16:17	OldCoder	Still
16:17	OldCoder	Time for backups real
16:17	OldCoder	I feel
16:17	OldCoder	The idea has appeal
16:17	OldCoder	Lest griefers steal
16:17	OldCoder	The data
16:17	OldCoder	:D
16:17	Octupus	Doc22,i am just enforcing what i heard
16:17	Calinou	OldCoder: your servers lag a lot, again :/
16:17	KikaRz	o.o
16:17	OldCoder	Calinou, Then we must unlag them!
16:17	Calinou	30 second lag on my world :P
16:17	Octupus	if it was just decoration i understand that
16:17	Jordach	Calinou - blame the US servers
16:17	Doc22	yeah but you are enforcing "oh no he placed lava as a fountain in the wilderness"
16:17	OldCoder	Calinou, You are in France
16:17	Jordach	make a europe Calinou world
16:17	OldCoder	Correct?
16:17	Calinou	if the server was in US but not lagging I'd get 250ms ping
16:17	Calinou	not 30000ms
16:17	OldCoder	Jordach, I will do so
16:17	KikaRz	ok, how i work with world edit?
16:18	OldCoder	When there are sufficient VPS
16:18	Octupus	DOc22,it wasnt in the wilderness
16:18	OldCoder	KikaRz, to do what? To save buildings?
16:18	OldCoder	KikaRz, It is not difficult
16:18	OldCoder	But right now
16:18	Doc22	yeah it was way out
16:18	KikaRz	no
16:18	OldCoder	Time to backup
16:18	KikaRz	to build
16:18	Doc22	well not way
16:18	OldCoder	Worlds Going Down!
16:18	Octupus	that was babyface's own place to build
16:18	KikaRz	in singleplayer
16:18	OldCoder	Actually they will go down in a few minutes
16:18	Doc22	it was on a coast line right
16:18	OldCoder	I will add new stuff first
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16:18	Doc22	I thought it was away
16:19	Doc22	I teleported to penguin to help hi
16:19	Doc22	hi
16:19	Doc22	him*
16:19	Doc22	and then I wanted to make a fountain
16:19	Octupus	alright Doc
16:19	Doc22	and so I went off
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16:19	Doc22	if it was close to babyfaces base I didn't know
16:19	Kacey	is world going down?
16:20	babyface1031	Doc22 the logs said your name put cobble the lava inside of the walls if it wasnt you then maybe your brother hopped on your screen when you were away
16:20	KikaRz	dafuq?
16:20	Doc22	i did that
16:20	KikaRz	Unknown block:
16:20	Calinou	KikaRz: privs igven
16:20	Calinou	given*
16:20	KikaRz	Air (You Hacker YOu!
16:20	Doc22	because the gatehouse messed up
16:20	KikaRz	'-'
16:20	OldCoder	Are there new mods or updates that people wish?
16:20	Doc22	cuz i destroyed a mesecons wire accidentally
16:20	Doc22	and it messed it up
16:20	Doc22	and that was me fixing it
16:20	Doc22	ill repeat what i did
16:20	Doc22	to show you
16:20	Kacey	uuum
16:21	Kacey	what are some good mods...
16:21	KikaRz	how i work with worldedit?
16:21	Doc22	vines mod
16:21	Kacey	maybe update technic
16:21	KikaRz	idk working with that mod.
16:21	Doc22	technic
16:21	KikaRz	just in minecraft
16:21	Doc22	moreores
16:21	Octupus	Alright Doc22 u will get your teleport back
16:21	Doc22	thanks
16:21	Doc22	I am not a griefer...
16:21	Kacey	hang on let me see if there are any mods
16:21	Kacey	ooh the blox mod
16:21	Doc22	and If I grief it is destroying my own stuff, but I return the world to its natural state
16:22	Doc22	so im a "white-hat" griefer
16:22	Kacey	please dont destroy the fort...
16:22	Doc22	not griefing anything bad
16:22	Doc22	err good
16:22	Doc22	i only destroy my own stuff
16:24	Kacey	i cannot connect to minetest.net
16:24	KikaRz	KACEY
16:24	KikaRz	ENTER BY HERE
16:25	Kacey	is world back up yet?
16:25	KikaRz	http://www.unblock-proxy.net/permalink.php?url=he30Wfs%2BcWHpiSuxguv0OxTrGk21DoJRDo4gbqD4s%2BU%3D
16:25	KikaRz	kacey, for you.
16:25	KikaRz	http://www.unblock-proxy.net/permalink.php?url=he30Wfs%2BcWHpiSuxguv0OxTrGk21DoJRDo4gbqD4s%2BU%3D
16:25	Kacey	and what is that?
16:26	KikaRz	YOU NEED TO UNINSTALL HAMAChi
16:26	KikaRz	IF YOU DONT WANT, USE THAT http://www.unblock-proxy.net/permalink.php?url=he30Wfs%2BcWHpiSuxguv0OxTrGk21DoJRDo4gbqD4s%2BU%3D
16:26	Kacey	im already on
16:26	KikaRz	on what?
16:26	Kacey	and who needs to uninstall when i have a VM!!!!!
16:27	KikaRz	now you've been stupid.
16:27	Kacey	oldcoder how about the map mod?
16:27	KikaRz	I said: IF you dont want  to uninstall Hamachi, enter by here
16:27	KikaRz	http://www.unblock-proxy.net/permalink.php?url=he30Wfs%2BcWHpiSuxguv0OxTrGk21DoJRDo4gbqD4s%2BU%3D
16:28	Kacey	my virtual machine can do sooooo much more than my normal computer
16:28	KikaRz	...
16:28	Calinou	Kacey: why not install linux on your whole computer then :p
16:28	KikaRz	19 November, you can enter into minetest.net.
16:28	KikaRz	yea, linux is better for you
16:28	OldCoder	Kacey, I tried that recently and had difficulties with it
16:28	OldCoder	Kacey, But I may try it again
16:29	Kacey	i use linux on my vm but my grandarents cannot understand even windows xp
16:29	KikaRz	how i use worldedit?
16:29	Calinou	Kacey: linux is easier to understand than xp
16:29	Kacey	ya but my grandparents would yell at me about it...
16:30	Doc22	lol
16:30	Calinou	facepalm
16:31	KikaRz	Calinou
16:31	Calinou	what
16:31	Kacey	but i also need to know how to install it on a computer
16:31	KikaRz	can  you explain me how i use worldedit to replace things?
16:31	KikaRz	then ill go to your server
16:31	Calinou	KikaRz: burn the ISO to a dvd or USB stick (use unetbootin to burn to USB stick: http://unetbootin.sf.net)
16:31	Calinou	put USB stick/dvd on computer, reboot
16:31	KikaRz	Not me.
16:32	Calinou	oops
16:32	Calinou	wrong person :p
16:32	Calinou	Kacey: then follow instructions, it's not hard...
16:32	KikaRz	That's not to learn how i use worldedit
16:32	KikaRz	:c
16:32	Kacey	is world back up?
16:34	Octupus	OldCoder,ima show u my beutiful artwork i just made :)
16:35	Doc22	octupus ill be on the server in a while
16:35	Doc22	im kinda frustrated from being accused
16:35	Kacey	is it up?
16:35	OldCoder	Octupus, O.K.
16:35	OldCoder	Worlds are going down soon
16:35	OldCoder	For an update and backups
16:35	Octupus	ok Doc22 srry for the confusion
16:35	Doc22	its fine
16:35	OldCoder	Doc22, wait
16:35	Doc22	i just need time to calm down
16:35	OldCoder	Doc22, PM babyface1031
16:36	Doc22	we have been talking
16:36	OldCoder	she wishes to show you something
16:36	KikaRz	im going to ragequit
16:36	OldCoder	All right
16:36	OldCoder	KikaRz, why?
16:36	KikaRz	*she's a man
16:36	OldCoder	?
16:36	KikaRz	Nobody learn me how to use worldedit
16:36	Kacey	no babyface is a girl
16:37	OldCoder	KikaRz, People will do so but patience is needed. What is it again you are trying to do?
16:37	Octupus	I LOVE MY PIXEL ART :)
16:37	OldCoder	Octupus, then we must see it
16:37	KikaRz	replacing wood for stone
16:37	KikaRz	and cobble for wool
16:37	Octupus	:D
16:37	Octupus	its so pretty
16:39	john__	KikaRz:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=572  Here all commands are listed.
16:39	KikaRz	People with hamachi can't enter through minetest.net
16:40	KikaRz	just with that unblock proxy
16:40	Octupus	imgur is being an ass
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16:46	Octupus	OldCoder,http://i.imgur.com/oGrnR.png
16:46	Octupus	:D
16:47	Octupus	http://i.imgur.com/oGrnR.png
16:47	OldCoder	R
16:47	Octupus	that 1 shud work
16:48	OldCoder	Statues in the Rain
16:48	OldCoder	Nice
16:48	OldCoder	They have moods
16:48	OldCoder	and expressions
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16:48	OldCoder	Despite being blocks
16:48	OldCoder	babyface1031, hey
16:48	babyface1031	hey
16:48	Octupus	Hi babyface1031
16:48	Octupus	:)
16:48	Octupus	oldcoder can u guy what they are
16:49	OldCoder	Blue one is a person; I don't know who
16:50	OldCoder	He is wearing clothes
16:50	OldCoder	Green one is a person or entity. He seems unhappy. I don't know if it's the rain or not.
16:50	Octupus	He is a zombie :)
16:50	OldCoder	Hence
16:50	OldCoder	Not happy
16:50	* OldCoder	hums the song
16:50	Octupus	the green 1 is a creeper
16:50	OldCoder	"Zombies in the Rain!"
16:50	Octupus	:)
16:50	OldCoder	Jeepers Creepers
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16:51	Octupus	il screenshot a zombie and a creeper for you :)
16:51	OldCoder	Well I guess he would not be smiling then
16:52	Octupus	:)
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16:53	KikaRz	Hi m13.
16:54	M13	hello
16:54	Calinou	hi M13
16:54	* Calinou	is now on xubuntu
16:54	Calinou	:D
16:54	M13	is Celeron55
16:54	M13	here
16:54	M13	o Calinou
16:54	M13	Nice
16:54	M13	Can I have your help
16:54	Calinou	he is here, yes
16:54	KikaRz	calinou, send me the ip of the server
16:54	Calinou	M13: help for what? ask away, don't ask to ask
16:54	Octupus	Hi M13
16:55	Calinou	KikaRz: calin.sytes.net port 30003
16:55	M13	ok how do I fix this error when cross compiling
16:55	M13	I got the buildbot working but there is a error with windres.exe
16:56	Calinou	no idea about cross compiling
16:56	M13	is xyz here
16:57	M13	thexyz
16:57	thexyz	?
16:57	M13	how do you fix this error
16:57	M13	one sec
16:58	M13	its the error with windres.exe
16:58	thexyz	i don't use windows at all
16:58	M13	in its in the cross compiler
16:58	M13	its*
16:58	M13	Here is the error
16:58	M13	[ 29%] Built target lua
16:58	M13	[ 31%] Built target jthread
16:58	M13	[ 32%] Built target sqlite3
16:58	M13	[ 33%] Generating winresource_rc.o
16:59	M13	/bin/sh: 1: windres.exe: not found
16:59	M13	make[2]: *** [src/winresource_rc.o] Error 127
16:59	M13	make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/all] Error 2
16:59	M13	make: *** [all] Error 2
16:59	Octupus	Hi M13
16:59	M13	chrischris-E-6000:~/Desktop/minetest-buildbot-01$
16:59	M13	hi
16:59	M13	did you have any problems like this xyz
17:00	Octupus	http://i.imgur.com/JnRFP.png
17:00	Octupus	OldCoder,^
17:00	M13	sfan5, you here, master cross compiler?
17:00	sfan5	ye
17:01	M13	have you seen this error?
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17:01	M13	its above
17:02	M13	any ideas?
17:03	OldCoder	Octupus, Hi
17:04	OldCoder	R
17:04	Octupus	Hola
17:04	Octupus	Those are what the art is made from
17:04	OldCoder	Aloha. That does look suitably creepy
17:04	Octupus	i had to trap them in order to get the picture
17:05	M13	sfan5, are you still here?
17:05	Octupus	the zombie is still stck though
17:05	OldCoder	Stuck?
17:05	sfan5	m13: what are your trying to do
17:05	Jordach	cross compile
17:05	M13	yes
17:06	sfan5	whach version?
17:06	sfan5	*which
17:06	M13	with minetest-0.4-Dev-20120122-1
17:06	M13	I have edited the buildbot
17:07	M13	I guess 'Windres.exe' is for setting the icon for the .exe file
17:08	M13	how do I disable that?
17:08	Doc22	VanessaE the forum captcha still wont work
17:08	Doc22	I saw the irc log of you talking with c55
17:09	M13	celeron55, if your here, what do I do to pass by the icon set
17:10	Octupus	Adios
17:11	M13	I have Adios
17:11	Jordach	OldCoder good morning?
17:11	Octupus	that means bye
17:12	OldCoder	Jordach, Hi
17:12	M13	so, anyone have a idea about this error, I have compiled with the buildbot before but I dont remember how to fix this error
17:12	Jordach	hey
17:14	M13	hey, sfan5, do you have a script that you use for cross compiling?
17:14	sfan5	yes
17:14	M13	does it work with the dev versions of mminetest
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17:14	M13	minetest*
17:14	sfan5	yes
17:15	M13	could I use it?
17:15	sfan5	i use the offical buildbot script
17:15	OldCoder	Does anybody wish mods or other updates in the U.S. worlds?
17:15	sfan5	if
17:15	sfan5	...
17:16	M13	do you have the problem with windres.exe, sfan5?
17:16	sfan5	i had
17:16	M13	how do you fix?
17:16	sfan5	you need to manually edit the makefiles
17:16	M13	o its in the makefiles
17:16	M13	ok
17:16	sfan5	and make it call i586-mingw32msvc-windres
17:17	M13	witch makefile?
17:17	M13	in the build folder?
17:17	KikaRz	Calinou, im not in the server already because im deleting almost 19433 torches
17:17	KikaRz	that i created.
17:18	sfan5	m13: i don't remember, i think its minetest/src/minetest.dir/makefile
17:18	KikaRz	sfan
17:18	KikaRz	why you dont make a command that is
17:18	M13	ok thnx for your help
17:18	M13	and your time
17:18	KikaRz	//delete
17:19	KikaRz	its more useful than //dig
17:19	KikaRz	and more faster
17:20	KikaRz	huh sfan
17:20	KikaRz	?
17:20	M13	ok, sfan5, I have found the line
17:21	M13	do you know if I have to add the path for it?
17:21	M13	and the file is
17:21	M13	/minetest/scr/CMakeFiles/build.cmake
17:22	KikaRz	sfan5, please, add a delete command
17:22	KikaRz	for worldedit
17:22	KikaRz	the dig one is too slow
17:22	sfan5	KikaRz: what do you want to delete?
17:23	KikaRz	i done 18433 torches
17:23	sfan5	M13: just replace windres.exe  with i586-mingw32msvc-windres
17:23	KikaRz	and im deleting many of them
17:23	KikaRz	with //dig
17:23	KikaRz	its too sloow
17:23	sfan5	dis does not delete nlocks
17:23	sfan5	*blocks
17:23	KikaRz	so?
17:23	M13	ok so replace windres.exe with i586-mingw32msvc-windres
17:23	sfan5	*dig
17:23	sfan5	M13: yes
17:24	KikaRz	so, what it digs?
17:24	sfan5	KikaRz: use //set air to delete the blocks
17:24	KikaRz	...
17:24	M13	ok
17:24	KikaRz	already started //dig.
17:24	sfan5	/dig is used for lightning updates
17:24	KikaRz	-.-
17:24	M13	here is what I changed, Ill pastie.org it
17:24	KikaRz	no problem
17:24	sfan5	M13: no, try it
17:24	KikaRz	it is digging torches.
17:25	KikaRz	ACTION[ServerThread]:    digs default:torch at (-49,7,14)
17:25	KikaRz	'-'
17:25	M13	ok
17:26	sfan5	KikaRz: but it will add them again after that
17:26	KikaRz	sfan5, anyway, add a //delete command.
17:26	sfan5	no
17:26	sfan5	use //set air
17:26	KikaRz	...
17:26	KikaRz	may i Exit to OS?
17:26	KikaRz	to stop it?
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17:27	M13	nope didnt work
17:27	M13	testing withpath
17:27	Doc22	what are you trying to do
17:27	KikaRz	LOL
17:27	KikaRz	EXIT TO OS = SPEEDY GONZALEZ
17:27	M13	cross compile minetest on Ubuntu
17:27	Doc22	hmmm
17:28	sfan5	KikaRz: kill minetet in taskmgr
17:28	Doc22	that  isnt my area of expertise
17:28	KikaRz	or
17:28	Doc22	on cross compile
17:28	KikaRz	press X in the right upside of window
17:29	M13	ik me ether
17:29	M13	Im a person of Linux :P
17:30	M13	this is for my project
17:30	Jordach	oh christ, windows people who cant exit a program...........................we need more it teaching that actually explains things correctly
17:30	KikaRz	Guess my world is now corrupted.
17:31	Jordach	(and not just how to use office programs)
17:31	KikaRz	no problem
17:31	KikaRz	i got many backups
17:33	FreeFull	KikaRz: My windows don't have Xs in the right upper side
17:34	FreeFull	They don't actually have anything there
17:34	KikaRz	ok
17:34	KikaRz	its 3.x
17:34	KikaRz	or MS DOS
17:34	KikaRz	kidding. that's too old but good
17:34	FreeFull	Nah, I am on a platform capable of running minetest =P
17:35	OldCoder	Worlds going down as announced earlier
17:36		Kacey joined #minetest
17:36	OldCoder	Kacey, wb
17:37	Kacey	thank you
17:37	Kacey	server shut down
17:37	OldCoder	See above
17:37	OldCoder	This was announced three or four times
17:38	Kacey	i cant see above
17:38	OldCoder	Not here at all earlier?
17:38	OldCoder	All right
17:38	Kacey	ooh backups of the maps right?
17:38	OldCoder	Worlds down for backups and updates
17:38	OldCoder	Yes
17:38	Kacey	ok
17:38	OldCoder	It is good to backup
17:38	Kacey	about how long should it take
17:38	OldCoder	I am adding a new world
17:38	OldCoder	If it works that is
17:38	M13	sfan5, I cant find the right makefile
17:38	OldCoder	Not sure yet
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17:38	sfan5	M13: i can't help your then
17:38	Kacey	hey m13
17:38	OldCoder	VanessaE, wb
17:39	M13	ok
17:40	* Kacey	slaps M13 with a rainbow trout
17:40	M13	lol, thoughs are yummy fish
17:40	Kacey	lol
17:41	babyface1031	what mods updating
17:41	KikaRz	stone brick is in game without mods?
17:41	Calinou	no
17:41	KikaRz	ok
17:41	Calinou	cobble looks like stonebrick, yes
17:41	Calinou	(sadly)
17:41	KikaRz	tell me a pretty block.
17:41	Kacey	mese
17:41	Calinou	mese :p
17:41	Calinou	nyancats
17:41	KikaRz	no
17:41	KikaRz	that's too good
17:41	Kacey	nyancat rainbow
17:41	KikaRz	i want something special
17:42	KikaRz	ok
17:42	KikaRz	ID or name
17:42	M13	sfan5, do you know how I could Find this?
17:42	Kacey	default:nyancat_rainbow
17:42	KikaRz	ok
17:42	sfan5	grep -n windres.exe `find . -name "Makefile"`
17:43	sfan5	M13
17:43	Kacey	anyone use spotify?
17:43	Jordach	bleh, non-free
17:43	Kacey	it is free
17:43	M13	thnx Ill try this
17:44	M13	i did this and nothing comes up
17:45	M13	sfan5
17:45	sfan5	....
17:45	M13	does that mean there is no file with this?
17:45	sfan5	in which directory are you?
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17:46	Kacey	ok back
17:46	M13	the main buildbot dir
17:46	Kacey	ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!!!!
17:47	Doc22	OldCoder
17:47	OldCoder	Doc22
17:47	Kacey	Kacey
17:47	Doc22	olctupus said that chains mod would be good for the server
17:47	M13	sfan5
17:47	OldCoder	Doc22, Did he?
17:47	M13	Im in the main buildbot dir
17:47	Doc22	yes but first confirm
17:47	OldCoder	Does anybody else wish to comment on chains?
17:48	Doc22	i know that he said so but it would be good to ask again
17:48	Doc22	before adding
17:48	Kacey	sure what does it do
17:48	sfan5	M13: go into the minetest directory
17:48	OldCoder	Doc22, suggest to him that he speak to me please
17:48	Doc22	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3741
17:48	Doc22	he isnt o n
17:48	OldCoder	I know
17:48	KikaRz	going to send a pic
17:48	OldCoder	When possible
17:48	KikaRz	abotu
17:48	Doc22	oh ok
17:48	Doc22	i will
17:49	KikaRz	what was that block request
17:49	Kacey	nyancat rainbow
17:49	Kacey	i find it all the time
17:49	KikaRz	I said:
17:49	KikaRz	I'm goiing to send a pic about that block request
17:49	Kacey	ok
17:49	Doc22	these are also my mods:
17:49	Doc22	campfire: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3794
17:50	Doc22	birthstones: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3663
17:50	Doc22	camouflage: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3637
17:50	Kacey	ooh we should add gems
17:50	Doc22	birthstones you mean?
17:50	Kacey	no gems
17:50	Kacey	encrustable gems
17:50	Doc22	oh ok
17:50	M13	ok
17:50	Doc22	yeah gloop's gems
17:51	Kacey	ya
17:51	M13	sfan5, nothing
17:51	Doc22	i could make a special use for gems
17:51	sfan5	can't help you then
17:51	Doc22	like something that makes you have an ability
17:51	M13	is there a way I could use windres.exe?
17:51	M13	sfan5 ^
17:51	sfan5	no
17:52	M13	ok thnx for your time
17:52	Kacey	ooh M13 i have been uing xubuntu for my vm
17:52	M13	nice
17:52	M13	i g2g
17:53	Kacey	is it back up yet?
17:53	babyface1031	Kacey we have the encrustable gems
17:54	Kacey	we do?
17:54	babyface1031	yes
17:54	babyface1031	i can show you when the world comes back up
17:54	Kacey	what does uranium do?
17:55	babyface1031	i dont think anything yet
17:56	Kacey	sooo it is useless just like octus cards right now?
17:56	KikaRz	wait a sec
17:56	KikaRz	im uploading screenshots
17:57	KikaRz	what image host shall i use ?
17:57	Kacey	imgur
17:58	KikaRz	cant upload by that
17:58	KikaRz	the buttons dont appear
17:58	Kacey	aaw
17:59	Kacey	oracle vm i love u
17:59	KikaRz	using tinypic
17:59	Kacey	OldCoder is it up yet?
18:00	OldCoder	Kacey, No. I am adding a large world.
18:00	OldCoder	If it works it will be worth the wait
18:00	Kacey	ok
18:01	OldCoder	That part is about 65% done
18:01	Kacey	how are you adding a large world?
18:01	OldCoder	Not sure I follow the question
18:01	OldCoder	Right now I am converting from SQLite3 to LevelDB
18:01	Kacey	hooh
18:02	babyface1031	what mods are updating?
18:02	KikaRz	omg
18:02	OldCoder	None so far; nobody has suggested any changes but chains
18:02	KikaRz	going to use dropbox
18:02	OldCoder	But I needed to shut down...
18:02	OldCoder	To do backups and add the new world
18:03	babyface1031	ohok i thought i saw you saying updates sorry i readed it wrong
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18:03	OldCoder	You did see that babyface1031
18:03	Kacey_	hmmm
18:03	OldCoder	Updates will include new world and would have included new mods or mod changes if people had requested them
18:03	babyface1031	oh ok
18:03	OldCoder	It will be interesting to see if the new world works
18:03	OldCoder	It is apparently huge
18:03	Kacey_	ok i will be on later
18:04	OldCoder	cu
18:04	KikaRz	uploading... please wait
18:04	babyface1031	i wish there was a better protect block mod
18:06	KikaRz	http://oi50.tinypic.com/9jj2ae.jpg
18:06	KikaRz	my friends, there you got
18:06	KikaRz	Kacey_
18:06	OldCoder	R
18:06	KikaRz	lol
18:06	OldCoder	babyface1031, there is one Octupus wishes to try
18:07	OldCoder	Nyan Test is the Best
18:07	KikaRz	XD
18:07	KikaRz	yea
18:07	babyface1031	yeah glomie buts a block on how far down we can go so no opals
18:07	OldCoder	Hmm
18:07	OldCoder	Could I patch the limit?
18:07	OldCoder	1000?
18:07	OldCoder	What should it be?
18:08	OldCoder	And why does he do this?
18:08	babyface1031	idk why thats what i heard but the opals dont spawn till -1016 i think
18:11	RealBadAngel	holy moly shit, i managed to send keypressed data from client to server :)
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18:12	OldCoder	babyface1031, I will check the code shortly. Does glomie cut off at 999, or 1000?
18:12	RealBadAngel	i just added extra ONE byte to data being transferred to the server
18:12	OldCoder	And?
18:12	babyface1031	-999.5
18:12	Penguin	OldCoder Is Server Down
18:12	RealBadAngel	and LUA on the server side can check what keys player have pressed
18:13	OldCoder	Penguin, yes
18:13	OldCoder	For changes
18:13	OldCoder	Announced three or four times in advance
18:13	OldCoder	Spend time here to see announcements
18:13	OldCoder	RealBadAngel, that is good
18:13	RealBadAngel	need to clean the mess i made in engine during tests
18:13	Penguin	I Just Got Link T0 This
18:14	RealBadAngel	and compress key data to single byte
18:14	RealBadAngel	because now i was sending constans for testing purposes
18:14	thexyz	wtf http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3601
18:16	RealBadAngel	lol
18:18	OldCoder	New world works. Large! Backups proceeding
18:18	Penguin	Thats Good !?
18:19	OldCoder	It is
18:19	babyface1031	:D
18:19	OldCoder	thexyz, R
18:19	OldCoder	Last call for mod changes or updates for today
18:20	Penguin	I Have A Problem With My Inventory Pictures Glass Is A Picture Of A Furnice Ect  ? any way to fix it
18:21	OldCoder	babyface1031, shall I increase the 999 to 1100 and see what happens?
18:21	OldCoder	Does anybody here know about glomie limit of 999 on depth?
18:21	babyface1031	that would let us get opals
18:21	OldCoder	Yes if it doesn't break things
18:21	Penguin	Yay
18:21	OldCoder	We will try
18:21	OldCoder	Report breakage
18:21	OldCoder	If it destroys the world
18:21	OldCoder	We will revert to today
18:22	babyface1031	i really like opals
18:22	babyface1031	fingers and toes crossed
18:22	OldCoder	We will see; change will be added as soon as backups are done
18:22	babyface1031	ok
18:23	Penguin	is docs new camo mod on server ?
18:23	Doc22	no
18:23	babyface1031	i was looking @OldCoder when i first found this game this is the server i asked for privs but was told to try other servers first werid
18:23	Doc22	the camo mod is old
18:24	Doc22	hmmm
18:24	Doc22	i mean the campfire mod
18:24	Doc22	but it would be fun
18:24	OldCoder	babyface1031, not following
18:24	OldCoder	Doc22, checking now
18:24	Penguin	:D Ha
18:24	OldCoder	Doc22, does it need fire?
18:24	OldCoder	We don't allow fire
18:24	Doc22	no it doesnt
18:24	OldCoder	Reviewing
18:25	Doc22	it just is a furnace with a different texture
18:25	Doc22	it burns and cooks slowly
18:25	Doc22	and it burns without an item to be cooked
18:25	Penguin	lol
18:25	Doc22	and it has animated campfire texture
18:25	OldCoder	Doc22, checking now
18:25	Doc22	ok
18:25	babyface1031	when i first hear if minetest i asked for privs on oct server but i was told by captinfap to try other servers first so i went to glomies and now i am back to octs server
18:26	Doc22	also camouflage mod is fun
18:26	OldCoder	Wait
18:26	Doc22	and chains mod looks epic
18:26	Doc22	i think
18:26	babyface1031	i just thought it was neat
18:26	OldCoder	babyface1031, o.k.
18:26	OldCoder	Doc22, get consensus on these mods please
18:26	OldCoder	Doc22, can you link them?
18:26	Doc22	sure ill link them all
18:26	Penguin	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3637 theres one
18:26	Doc22	chains: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3741
18:26	Doc22	campfires: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3794
18:27	Doc22	camouflage: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3637
18:27	Doc22	birthstones: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3663
18:27	Doc22	all made by me
18:27	OldCoder	R
18:27	Doc22	8)
18:27	OldCoder	Oh?
18:27	OldCoder	R
18:27	Doc22	ya
18:27	OldCoder	So campfire is not dangerous?
18:27	OldCoder	And low depends?
18:28	OldCoder	Doc22, adding campfire to Octuteam
18:28	Doc22	oh thanks
18:28	OldCoder	If no destroyed world then will go elsewhere too
18:28	OldCoder	Hold on
18:28	Doc22	yeah it is not dangerous
18:28	Doc22	it is no more dangerous than furnace lol
18:28	Doc22	unless someone makes tp mod and throws a ton of tp on the fire
18:28	Doc22	then it starts forest fire
18:29	Doc22	and destroys everyones houses
18:29	Penguin	i Burnt my self on my furnace it hurt
18:29	Doc22	lol
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18:30	KikaRz	what happened?
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18:31	Doc22	what do you mean
18:31	KikaRz	i've been disconnected reason:
18:31	KikaRz	Kicked by System - Away
18:31	Doc22	from oldcoders server?
18:31	KikaRz	I was in another channels
18:31	Doc22	oh ok
18:31	Doc22	idk why
18:31	KikaRz	no
18:31	KikaRz	from IRC
18:31	Doc22	yeeah idk why
18:32	Doc22	oldcoder i forgot to mention that the campfire spawns lava tornado
18:32	KikaRz	who knows very good mods?
18:32	Doc22	>:D
18:32	OldCoder	??
18:32	Doc22	im joking
18:32	OldCoder	Doc22, kidding?
18:32	OldCoder	KikaRz, Me
18:32	Doc22	lol
18:32	Doc22	i made four
18:32	KikaRz	omg, OldCoder is like a bot.
18:32	KikaRz	not a boss, like a bot.
18:32	KikaRz	xd
18:33	Doc22	[11:26] <Doc22> chains: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3741 [11:26] <Doc22> campfires: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3794 [11:26] <Doc22> camouflage: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3637 [11:27] <Doc22> birthstones: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3663
18:33	Doc22	there are my mods
18:33	OldCoder	KikaRz, How kind of you
18:33	Doc22	and technic is very good
18:33	OldCoder	Doc22, speak of birthstones
18:33	Doc22	it spawns ores
18:33	KikaRz	UI don't know how to use Technic
18:33	Doc22	and when they are mined
18:33	Doc22	they drop the gem
18:33	Doc22	gems can be made into blocks
18:33	Doc22	or picks
18:33	KikaRz	Who can come and learn me how to use it?
18:33	Penguin	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1598 MadBlocks is A Good Mod
18:33	Doc22	i plan on adding more uses
18:33	KikaRz	minetest.sytes.net:30001
18:34	Doc22	go to minetest.org:30004
18:34	KikaRz	nope.
18:34	Doc22	ok
18:34	KikaRz	i got some bugs
18:34	KikaRz	with blocks
18:34	KikaRz	and downloading
18:34	KikaRz	media etc.
18:34	Doc22	oh ok
18:34	KikaRz	but ill try
18:34	Doc22	there are people on there
18:34	Doc22	ask babyface she will help you
18:34	Doc22	and when i am on i will as well
18:34	KikaRz	yea
18:34	OldCoder	MadBlocks?
18:34	KikaRz	a girl explains well to a girl
18:35	Doc22	lol
18:35	KikaRz	if she doesnt explain me well
18:35	KikaRz	ill kill her
18:35	Doc22	haha
18:35	KikaRz	then... all will be happy.
18:35	Penguin	Yep Its A Good Mod
18:35	OldCoder	Doc22, is birthstones dangerous?
18:35	Doc22	u will go to juvie
18:35	OldCoder	And what are MadBlocks?
18:35	KikaRz	Nope, but i am
18:35	KikaRz	:p
18:35	babyface1031	hey no killing me
18:35	KikaRz	We werent talking about you
18:35	Doc22	and no oldcoder it spawns rainbows and ponies that poop skittles and butterflies
18:35	KikaRz	'-'
18:35	OldCoder	I need to wrap up
18:35	Doc22	lol
18:35	OldCoder	Doc22, You must do better than that
18:35	OldCoder	Focus or no more mods
18:36	OldCoder	What are birthstones?
18:36	Doc22	ok it isnt dangerous
18:36	babyface1031	that was the one i was telling you about oldocder that they spawn alot
18:36	Penguin	Okay
18:36	OldCoder	Dangerous then
18:36	Doc22	they can be used to make blocks or picks
18:36	KikaRz	hey
18:36	OldCoder	Penguin, speak of MadBlocks
18:36	KikaRz	i know working a bit well with solar panels
18:36	Doc22	right now I need to add more uses
18:36	KikaRz	but cant make cables
18:36	OldCoder	Doc22, babyface1031 says too spawnerific
18:36	Doc22	so they are mainly for the color addition
18:36	Doc22	yeah i need to decrease them
18:36	OldCoder	MadBlocks
18:36	OldCoder	Somebody explain them
18:36	Doc22	i never used it
18:36	OldCoder	babyface1031, do you think campfire is safe?
18:37	OldCoder	Penguin, explain MadBlocks or none today
18:37	Doc22	it is a furnace with different rendertype
18:37	Doc22	drawtype*
18:37	KikaRz	[18:33] <Doc22> go to minetest.org:30004 // not working
18:37	Doc22	and it burns without needing something to be burned
18:37	Doc22	hmmm
18:37	Penguin	it dosent matter coder
18:37	babyface1031	if it is like a furnace i think it should be
18:37	Doc22	it should unless it is dow
18:37	Doc22	eah
18:37	Doc22	it doesnt spawn lava or fire
18:37	Doc22	etc
18:38	OldCoder	Penguin, if you like it please feel free to comment
18:38	OldCoder	Doc22, what is camo* ?
18:38	Doc22	it adds a disguised ladder that blends on tree trunk
18:38	Penguin	Its A Good Mod But It Causes Some Lag At Times
18:38	OldCoder	Maybe later
18:38	OldCoder	Penguin, Lag makes Servers Sag
18:38	Doc22	and it also adds leave blocks that are nonsolid and climbable
18:38	OldCoder	No Lag in my Bag
18:39	KikaRz	hey
18:39	KikaRz	i cant enter into that server
18:39	OldCoder	?
18:39	KikaRz	minetest.org : 30003
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18:39	Doc22	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3637 this is camo mod
18:39	babyface1031	it is down fro update and backups
18:39	KikaRz	...
18:39	KikaRz	Doc22 said me to enter there
18:39	KikaRz	but ok
18:39	Doc22	this is chains mod http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3741
18:39	OldCoder	Not for long
18:39	OldCoder	Wait
18:39	Doc22	yeah i thought it was up
18:40	babyface1031	soon
18:40	Doc22	oldcode those pages have everything about my mods
18:40	OldCoder	I know
18:40	OldCoder	But I need consensus
18:40	Doc22	i should make axes for birthstones
18:40	Doc22	and decrease spawn rate...
18:40	Penguin	Coder Whats World Depth Now ?
18:40	OldCoder	It is going to 1100
18:41	OldCoder	From 999
18:41	OldCoder	For Octuteam world only; as a test
18:41	babyface1031	ok
18:41	Penguin	i am first to get to -999.5 on the server i thinkz
18:42	babyface1031	no i was
18:42	KikaRz	Doc22
18:42	babyface1031	in that cave of mine
18:42	Doc22	yes
18:42	KikaRz	can you come to server minetest.sytes.net:30001 ?
18:42	Doc22	in a while
18:42	Doc22	mayb
18:42	Doc22	maybe
18:42	Doc22	i want to add axes to my birthstones mod
18:43	Penguin	that isent -999.5
18:43	babyface1031	yeah it is i will show you when the world comes back up
18:43	Penguin	okay  sure
18:45	Penguin	Server Up Yet ?
18:46	OldCoder
18:46	OldCoder	Yes
18:46	Penguin	yaya
18:46	OldCoder	Here are three changes
18:46	OldCoder	1. Try digging to 1050 in Octuworld
18:46	OldCoder	Does world explode??
18:46	OldCoder	2. Campfires! Roast marshmallows!
18:46	OldCoder	Ask Doc22 for details
18:47	OldCoder	3. New world! Come and visit!!
18:47	OldCoder	VERITAS
18:47	babyface1031	ok i will try wheni finish loading
18:47	OldCoder	On port 30014
18:47	OldCoder	Huge new world
18:47	KikaRz	ok
18:47	OldCoder	Cool stuff
18:47	Doc22	waht
18:47	OldCoder	!
18:47	OldCoder
18:47	OldCoder	Done
18:47	KikaRz	ill try then
18:47	Doc22	oh ok
18:47	Doc22	awesome you added it
18:47	OldCoder	Yep
18:47	Penguin	Doc What Server you going on new one
18:47	OldCoder	Others later
18:47	Penguin	?
18:47	Doc22	now you have to try it with me
18:47	Doc22	:D
18:48	Penguin	what happens if world explods do i get in trouble lol
18:48	Doc22	now for more pixlr editor making axe textures
18:53	KikaRz	wait
18:53	KikaRz	im coming
18:54	KikaRz	Doc22, will you learn me how to work with mesecon and technic?
18:54	Doc22	sure
18:54	KikaRz	media frozen at 0%
18:54	Doc22	oldcoder my brother tanker44 wants interact on 30014
18:57	OldCoder	Coming up
18:58	OldCoder	Is his nick Tanker44 or tanker44 ?
18:58	OldCoder	Doc22, ^
18:58	Doc22	Tanker44
18:59	KikaRz	server is laggy
18:59	KikaRz	my name is KikaRz
18:59	KikaRz	ingame
18:59	Doc22	oh no oldcoder my campfire mod started a forestfire because babyface threw too much wood on
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19:00	Doc22	lol
19:00	OdnetninI	How can i make a translation to other languaje?
19:01	babyface1031	yeah right i am mineing i have no wood
19:02	OldCoder	OdnetninI, Hey!
19:02	OdnetninI	Hi OldCoder
19:02	OldCoder	OdnetninI, we have a fix for WorldEdit copy problems
19:02	OdnetninI	what?
19:02	OldCoder	OdnetninI, Turn on full range using R before using //save or //metasave
19:02	OldCoder	This may help
19:02	OdnetninI	help to what
19:02	OdnetninI	?
19:02	OldCoder	Doc22, please speak literally
19:02	OldCoder	OdnetninI, to prevent problems
19:02	Doc22	ok
19:02	OdnetninI	hhhm
19:02	OdnetninI	ok
19:02	KikaRz	im hating this lag
19:03	KikaRz	and taking too long to load map
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19:03	Doc22	im joking because you think my mod is going to destroy the world
19:03	OldCoder	NakedFury, Hey!
19:03	Doc22	lol
19:03	OldCoder	NakedFury, check out world 30014
19:03	OdnetninI	OldCoder, do you know how to make a minetest translation to other language?
19:03	OldCoder	OdnetninI, I have not yet reviewed this
19:03	Doc22	go through line by line?
19:03	KikaRz	i can make PT/ES/FR translation!
19:03	OldCoder	O.K. Folks...
19:03	OldCoder	Doc22, no
19:03	OldCoder	It should be simpler
19:03	Doc22	hmmm
19:03	OldCoder	KikaRz, we can do this over time
19:03	OdnetninI	KitkaRz, I want to make ES translation
19:04	Doc22	i guess you could write a converter
19:04	OldCoder	O.K. Folks... anybody I know who joins 30014 gets interact when I'm back
19:04	OldCoder	Doc22, no...
19:04	OldCoder	Doc22, many modern programs make it easy
19:04	Doc22	oh ok
19:04	OldCoder	For example there is NLS
19:04	Doc22	i use netbeans
19:04	Doc22	:D
19:04	OldCoder	We can look at this over time
19:04	Doc22	could it be possible to make it for ios
19:04	OldCoder	ANNOUNCE: New world on 30014. Veritas World. Join and look at the stuff. I will add interact to people later.
19:05	Doc22	ok
19:05	OldCoder	Doc22, there is no MT for iOS yet
19:05	Doc22	im saying could you
19:05	OdnetninI	what minetest loads fater? Many litle mods? Or few mods very big?
19:06	KikaRz	going to 30004.
19:06	KikaRz	omg
19:06	OdnetninI	loads faster*
19:06	KikaRz	media takes too long to download
19:06	OldCoder	KikaRz, you are sort of a complainer :p
19:06	OldCoder	Load the media once and it should be all right
19:06	OldCoder	Plus we will fix the network code
19:07	* OldCoder	back soon
19:07	OldCoder	KikaRz, media is cached
19:07	KikaRz	old
19:07	KikaRz	its for 30004
19:07	KikaRz	not 30014
19:07	OldCoder	I know
19:07	OldCoder	I run both worlds
19:07	OldCoder	Or rather host them
19:08	Penguin	Old Coder whats the depth again
19:10	KikaRz	Fuck access violation!
19:11	KikaRz	going to dinner
19:11	KikaRz	doc22, say to your brother/sister that im going to dinner
19:11	Doc22	ok
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19:23	* Calinou	added a weather applet
19:23	Calinou	8,5°C, seems legit
19:23	Calinou	bye :) dinner
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19:27	Kacey	hello
19:28	RealBadAngel	hi
19:28	Kacey	i have an issue with technic
19:30	Kacey	i cannot get items into a gold chest using transport tubes
19:31	VanessaE	I believe transport tubes as related to technic are not implemented yet?
19:31	Kacey	they are
19:31	Kacey	doc made a duplicator
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19:35	babyface1031	anyone know about the gem mod
19:35	Doc22	no
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19:35	Doc22	i just added axes to my birthstones mod
19:35	Doc22	though
19:35	Doc22	and decreased spawn rate
19:37	KikaRz	back
19:37	Doc22	k
19:37	KikaRz	wll
19:37	KikaRz	*well
19:37	KikaRz	now ill learn technic?
19:38	Doc22	i will in a minut
19:38	Doc22	im testing my mod
19:38	KikaRz	can i test with you?
19:38	Doc22	more of debugging
19:38	KikaRz	ok
19:38	Doc22	and i come out with a new change every minute or so
19:38	Doc22	but you can try it when i finish
19:38	KikaRz	your brother is in which server?
19:39	RealBadAngel	kacey: by now transport tubes cannot connect to any chests
19:39	Doc22	30004 or 30014
19:39	RealBadAngel	at least the public released version of technic
19:39	KikaRz	tell him to enter into 30004
19:39	Doc22	you should make it connect
19:40	Doc22	ill work on it if you want
19:40	RealBadAngel	i did, but that stuff is too complex to be released ad hoc
19:40	RealBadAngel	i need to polish it
19:40	Doc22	ok
19:40	Doc22	ahhh
19:42	KikaRz	FUCK THIS
19:42	KikaRz	ACCESS VIOLATION
19:42	FreeFull	Something tried to touch some memory
19:42	FreeFull	That memory didn't like it, and reported your program to the police
19:42	KikaRz	???
19:43	KikaRz	-.-
19:43	KikaRz	Ok
19:43	KikaRz	Ill report Mozilla
19:43	KikaRz	calling 911
19:43	KikaRz	911 what's your emergency?
19:43	RealBadAngel	please do not move, stay calm before authorities come
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19:44	Doc22	lol
19:45	Kacey	hello
19:45	KikaRz	Wb Kaceu
19:45	Doc22	'ello
19:45	Doc22	indeed
19:45	Kacey	freaking internet lol
19:45	Doc22	heh heh
19:45	Doc22	i know that feeling bro
19:45	Kacey	stupid quest modem
19:46	Doc22	lol
19:46	Doc22	i have an smc router
19:46	KikaRz	me too!
19:46	Doc22	that has the gui and everything for port forward
19:46	Doc22	but it doesnt work
19:46	Kacey	ooh well atleast it isnt that xfinity router again
19:46	Doc22	no matter how many times i try
19:46	Kacey	lol
19:46	Doc22	and that, children, is why i dont hava a server.
19:46	Kacey	lol i just got buried by gold blocks
19:47	Doc22	lol
19:47	KikaRz	lol (3)
19:47	Kacey	your duplicator works a little too well
19:47	KikaRz	Guys
19:47	Doc22	heh heh
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19:47	Doc22	ik im awesome
19:47	Kacey	lol
19:47	Doc22	i made a triple duper
19:47	KikaRz	You know a free IRC program?
19:47	Kacey	i saw that
19:47	KikaRz	thats because i need to turn off Mozilla Firefox
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19:48	Doc22	kika and Kacey would you test my birthstones mod
19:48	Kacey	sure but later once i uninstall hamachi
19:48	Doc22	hang on lemme ompload it
19:48	Doc22	okay
19:48	KikaRz	Ok
19:48	KikaRz	Kacey.
19:48	KikaRz	To enter into minetest.net
19:48	KikaRz	you dont need to uninstall it
19:48	Doc22	omploader.org "powered by 959 horny gerbils"
19:49	Kacey	lol
19:49	Doc22	http://ompldr.org/vZ2Nkcg/birthstones.zip
19:49	KikaRz	that is?
19:49	Kacey	ooh ok
19:49	KikaRz	what that mod got?
19:50	Doc22	gems that generate
19:50	KikaRz	where?
19:50	Doc22	and can be made into axes and picks
19:50	Doc22	undergrount
19:50	KikaRz	new mines?
19:50	Doc22	underground
19:50	KikaRz	*ores?
19:50	Kacey	cool
19:50	Doc22	huh?
19:50	Doc22	ya
19:50	KikaRz	Alexandrite....
19:50	KikaRz	lol
19:50	Doc22	haha
19:50	KikaRz	its like... ALexander
19:50	Doc22	yup
19:50	Kacey	talk to me in game
19:50	KikaRz	Aquamarine is a water park in here (Portugal)
19:50	Doc22	cool
19:51	KikaRz	Doc22
19:51	Doc22	yes
19:51	KikaRz	we  need to make new world?
19:51	Doc22	ok kacey
19:51	Doc22	yes kika
19:51	KikaRz	NOOO
19:51	KikaRz	so, i cant test it well
19:51	Doc22	just make it on sp
19:51	Doc22	and make it creative
19:51	KikaRz	nope
19:51	Doc22	O_O
19:51	Doc22	wow
19:51	KikaRz	i want to make into my house world
19:52	Doc22	well try going to unexplored places
19:52	KikaRz	Doc,
19:52	KikaRz	there is a recipe book?
19:52	Doc22	no
19:52	KikaRz	:(
19:52	Doc22	just make a pick like normal
19:52	KikaRz	not for that
19:52	Doc22	for what
19:52	KikaRz	recipe book for everything
19:52	KikaRz	like
19:52	KikaRz	for Technic...
19:52	Doc22	yeah
19:52	KikaRz	etc
19:52	KikaRz	Can you send me link?
19:53	Doc22	its called craft guide
19:53	Doc22	https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-craft_guide/archive/master.zip
19:53	Doc22	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2334
19:53	KikaRz	it updates ?
19:53	Doc22	yes it lists mod recipes
19:53	KikaRz	well
19:53	KikaRz	ok
19:53	KikaRz	like
19:53	KikaRz	when we install a mod
19:53	KikaRz	it says there
19:53	KikaRz	the recipe?
19:53	babyface1031	@OldCoder the world is fine once we hit the bottom but on the same thing there is no opals in the mod anymore i think
19:53	Doc22	yes
19:54	Doc22	craft the computer thingy and right click it to use it
19:54	Doc22	read this for how to use it
19:54	Doc22	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2334
19:54	KikaRz	ok
19:54	KikaRz	need to use that shit
19:54	KikaRz	http://www.unblock-proxy.net/
19:55	KikaRz	the creator of that mod is banned
19:55	KikaRz	:/
19:58	Doc22	yeah!!!
19:58	Doc22	birthstones 1.2!!
19:58	Doc22	now with axes
19:58	Doc22	and less-crazy spawnrate
19:58	KikaRz	'-'
19:58	KikaRz	ok
19:58	KikaRz	doc22
19:58	KikaRz	can you make it
19:58	KikaRz	uh...
19:58	Doc22	make what
19:59	KikaRz	spawn ores
19:59	KikaRz	randomly
19:59	Doc22	umm
19:59	KikaRz	when first use?
19:59	Doc22	no
19:59	KikaRz	:/
19:59	Doc22	thats not how generation works
19:59	Doc22	try installing it
19:59	Doc22	then mining in a new place
19:59	Doc22	where you have never been
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20:01	OldCoder	Back
20:01	OldCoder	babyface1031, Is this because the opals must be generated when the world is created?
20:01	babyface1031	oh
20:01	OldCoder	If so we can generate them elsewhere
20:01	OldCoder	and worldedit them in
20:01	OldCoder	I can regenerate this world from scratch
20:01	OldCoder	Somebody can fly down beneath
20:01	babyface1031	i tryed the giveme and it didnt work i got stine
20:02	OldCoder	Ah
20:02	OldCoder	So where should the opals be?
20:02	OldCoder	In which mod?
20:02	babyface1031	it says -1024 in the gems mod
20:03	OldCoder	So is the issue
20:04	OldCoder	that we must create a new copy of the world to get them?
20:04	Doc22	oldcoder
20:04	Doc22	i made my birthstones mod less crazy
20:04	babyface1031	idk cause the other gems are there
20:04	Doc22	and now it has axes
20:04	OldCoder	Doc22
20:04	OldCoder	Doc22, build consensus
20:04	Doc22	with octu?
20:04	OldCoder	See if babyface1031 and Octupus like it
20:04	Doc22	ok
20:04	babyface1031	and Kacey just informed me the we cant craft superglowglass and clean glass
20:04	OldCoder	babyface1031, interesting
20:04	Doc22	be sure that before you reset the world you add it
20:04	KikaRz	doc22
20:05	Doc22	yes
20:05	KikaRz	can you link me a good furniture mod?
20:05	OldCoder	Doc22, when you say reset what do you mean?
20:05	Doc22	i mean that it needs to be in when a world starts
20:05	Doc22	for the ores to generate
20:05	KikaRz	doc22
20:05	Doc22	oh sorry
20:05	Doc22	home decot
20:05	Doc22	decor*
20:05	babyface1031	i dont use superglow anymore and never tryed clean so i cant tell you when it started
20:05	KikaRz	but it doesnt spawns in places unloadeds?
20:05	Doc22	idk
20:05	Doc22	try it
20:06	Doc22	if you explore places you havent been it will generate i think
20:06	OldCoder	Doc22, babyface1031 speak to others about opals etc. and get back to me with views
20:06	Doc22	ok
20:07	KikaRz	'-'
20:07	babyface1031	i think that if you are going to add docs mod then the gems mod opals not there are fine
20:08	Doc22	i could make my opals compatible i guess
20:08	KikaRz	the Home Decor is too strange
20:08	KikaRz	and dificult to use
20:08	KikaRz	'-'
20:09	Doc22	hmmmm
20:10	KikaRz	and needs many mods
20:10	KikaRz	can you send me moreores, wool (i guess minetest already got it), unified...?
20:10	* VanessaE	peeks in
20:11	KikaRz	VanessaE, you da mod creator
20:11	KikaRz	please, link me the necessary mods or put them in post
20:12	VanessaE	I create some mods, sure
20:12	babyface1031	Doc22 your mod has opal dont it
20:12	VanessaE	Did you mean unifieddyes?  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=28399#p28399
20:12	Doc22	yes
20:13	VanessaE	or Unifiedbricks:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2383
20:13	babyface1031	then make them compatible with what
20:13	VanessaE	moreores is Calinou's mod, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=549
20:13	Doc22	ok
20:14	Doc22	ill add something custom for this server
20:14	VanessaE	Home Decor is mine, and it is not strange or difficult to use.  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=26061#p26061
20:14	Doc22	its very intuitive actually
20:14	VanessaE	(people on redcrab's server seem to enjoy it)
20:14	Doc22	simple
20:14	Doc22	yeah i like it
20:14	Doc22	except on minetest.org:30004
20:14	Doc22	the furniture turns funny colors
20:14	Doc22	ill take a screenshot
20:14	VanessaE	super glow glass is in more blocks (also Calinou's mod), http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=509
20:15	OldCoder	VanessaE, I think KikaRz is a bit blunt
20:15	VanessaE	I guess so :-)
20:15	Doc22	lol
20:15	VanessaE	Doc22: texture atlas.
20:15	VanessaE	tuen it off.
20:15	VanessaE	turn*
20:15	Doc22	ok
20:15	Doc22	in settings?
20:16	KikaRz	OldCoder, you ugly. :c
20:16	Doc22	on the menu
20:16	* OldCoder	shrugs
20:16	* Doc22	lols
20:16	VanessaE	no, it's in the config file for now.
20:16	VanessaE	enable_texture_atlas = false
20:16	OldCoder	But it is inner beauty that matters
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20:16	VanessaE	I'll add it to the Settings tab at some point in the near future.
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20:16	Doc22	oldcoder i got an idea
20:17	Doc22	ill make my gems mod have opal for the other one
20:17	Doc22	my opal isnt that deep
20:17	Doc22	so ill make a second mod that bridges the gap with opal
20:17	Doc22	ill need the nodename for opal in the other mod
20:17	OldCoder	gems?
20:17	Doc22	yes
20:18	Doc22	gems:opal?
20:18	OldCoder	om
20:18	OldCoder	gems:mineral_opal
20:18	OldCoder	Kind of long
20:19	KikaRz	got a thousand of mods to install
20:19	KikaRz	thanks to VanessaE
20:19	OldCoder	KikaRz, is that a thank you? What do you know. Capable of polite.
20:19	KikaRz	'-'
20:19	* OldCoder	shrugs
20:20	KikaRz	OldCoder, ahi la niña no es una mierda, soy mejor que piensas
20:20	KikaRz	'-'
20:20	KikaRz	now, translate that in your friend GOOGLE
20:20	OldCoder	KikaRz, we should probably talk a bit
20:20	OldCoder	But maybe not
20:20	KikaRz	Ok
20:20	KikaRz	lets start
20:20		KikaRz was kicked by OldCoder: See ya
20:20	VanessaE	what can I say, I like to mod :-)
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20:20	VanessaE	KikaRz: what can I say, I like to mod :-)
20:20	Doc22	ok
20:20	KikaRz	ok.
20:21	Doc22	ill make the bridge oc
20:21	OldCoder	All right
20:21	KikaRz	mr OldCoder
20:21	OldCoder	Hmm?
20:21	KikaRz	What i said: Here the girl (me) is not a sh*t.
20:21	OldCoder	All right
20:21	OldCoder	Who said you were?
20:21	OldCoder	Lighten up
20:21	OldCoder	U.S. idiom BTW
20:21	KikaRz	Doc22, where are you from? USA too?
20:22	Doc22	ya
20:25	Doc22	oldcoder
20:25	Doc22	this should do it
20:25	Doc22	http://ompldr.org/vZ2NlaQ/opalbridge.zip
20:25	OldCoder	R
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20:25	Doc22	one opal of either kind on the table = other kind
20:26	VanessaE	well, my laptop seems to be shaping up finally.  Now to find an IDE SSD that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
20:26	OldCoder	Doc22, Can you explain further?
20:26	Doc22	put an opal on the table and it crafts the other mod's opal
20:26	Doc22	thats it
20:26	Doc22	it just makes it so that you can get gems:mineral_opal
20:26	Doc22	using my mod's opal
20:27	KikaRz	Its definitive.
20:27	OldCoder	All right
20:27	OldCoder	Hold on
20:27	KikaRz	I'm going to create a new world
20:27	OldCoder	Good luck
20:27	OldCoder	buenos suerte
20:27	OldCoder	I think
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20:28	KikaRz	*buena
20:28	Doc22	ok
20:29	KikaRz	Ok
20:29	Doc22	thats what you can use to get opal for gems
20:29	Doc22	do what you want with it
20:29	KikaRz	may i put the mods where? i everytime put mods in mod folder (not in game\minetest
20:29	VanessaE	they go in <minetestfolder>/mods/minetest/
20:30	VanessaE	i.e. ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/homedecor
20:30	KikaRz	mods?
20:30	KikaRz	o_o'
20:30	KikaRz	i dont use linux
20:30	KikaRz	and i think is not mods folder
20:30	VanessaE	same difference, windows just names the minetest folder differently.
20:30	KikaRz	but yes, games
20:30	VanessaE	no
20:30	VanessaE	not games.
20:30	VanessaE	mods.
20:30	KikaRz	ok
20:30	VanessaE	games is for whole replacements for minimal or minetest_game, such as skyblock or dwarves
20:31	VanessaE	and no, I am not gonna write my paths with backslashes just because someone is on windows.  :-)
20:31	OldCoder	Heh
20:31	OldCoder	Doc22, om
20:31	KikaRz	hey
20:31	KikaRz	but i got \
20:32	KikaRz	and not /
20:32	KikaRz	but im on windows xd
20:32	VanessaE	KikaRz: same difference.  it's a path delimiter.
20:32	KikaRz	that's strange
20:32	OldCoder	Doc22, that one needs birthstones
20:32	VanessaE	forward or back slash, just translate to your needs.
20:32	KikaRz	and i dont have C:\Documents and Settings
20:32	KikaRz	or C:\
20:32	OldCoder	Doc22, again; is birthstones safe?
20:32	KikaRz	it goes like linux
20:32	Doc22	wait what
20:32	Doc22	yes it is
20:32	Doc22	it just adds gems
20:32	Doc22	and picks
20:32	OldCoder	Doc22, bridge needs birthstones?
20:32	Doc22	yes
20:33	KikaRz	\Francisca\Desktop\games\minetest043\
20:33	KikaRz	'-'
20:33	OldCoder	Doc22, does it spawn too much or anything?
20:33	Doc22	it makes it so that birthstones opal can be made into gems
20:33	KikaRz	hey
20:33	OldCoder	Doc22, sure it is safe?
20:33	Doc22	i turned down the generation
20:33	KikaRz	i got a question
20:33	Doc22	it was a lot (but reasonable)
20:33	Doc22	before
20:33	Doc22	but now i turned it down
20:33	KikaRz	i can change mods name to somename randomly
20:33	KikaRz	like:
20:33	KikaRz	mod1
20:33	KikaRz	mod2
20:33	KikaRz	mod3
20:33	KikaRz	?
20:33	Doc22	to about a 3rd of what it was
20:33	Doc22	no
20:33	KikaRz	why?
20:34	KikaRz	some mods require rename
20:34	Doc22	it has to be birthstones for birthstones
20:34	KikaRz	and i dont know what the name that i need rename
20:34	KikaRz	doc22
20:34	KikaRz	nto that
20:34	Doc22	ues
20:34	KikaRz	*not
20:34	Doc22	oh
20:34	Doc22	i dont understand the question
20:34	KikaRz	But yes, PlizAdam mods, (framing-5197076
20:34	OldCoder	Doc22, link it again please
20:34	KikaRz	we need to rename it
20:34	OldCoder	birthstones
20:34	KikaRz	to something like farming
20:34	KikaRz	http://ompldr.org/vZ2Nkcg/birthstones.zip
20:34	KikaRz	oh, i think thats the testing one
20:34	OldCoder	KikaRz, are you suggesting a rename?
20:34	KikaRz	No
20:35	OldCoder	k
20:35	OldCoder	Where is birthstones final?
20:35	OldCoder	We will add this stuff and try it
20:35	KikaRz	hey
20:35	KikaRz	But All Master (github) mods, got to be renamed
20:35	KikaRz	but i dont know what name it is
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20:36	OldCoder	Doc22, where is birthstones final?
20:36	KikaRz	RealBadAngel-technic-306b407 needs to be renamed to technic only?
20:36	Doc22	oh ok
20:37	KikaRz	isnt that ompldr one?
20:37	OldCoder	KikaRz, yes
20:37	Doc22	birthstones current version is...
20:37	Doc22	http://ompldr.org/vZ2Nkcg 1.2
20:37	Doc22	and here is the bridge
20:37	KikaRz	http://ompldr.org/vZ2Nkcg/birthstones.zip
20:37	KikaRz	i sent it.
20:39	KikaRz	VanessaE,
20:39	KikaRz	Your mod needs to be renamed to homedecor only?
20:40	KikaRz	ok, installed all mods that i downloaded
20:40	KikaRz	tomorrow ill download 10 more.
20:40	KikaRz	omg
20:41	KikaRz	i need pipeworks
20:42	VanessaE	yeah
20:42	VanessaE	pipeworks:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=27794
20:43	VanessaE	the renaming thing is an artifact of github not letting me set the name of the folder when extracted
20:43	KikaRz	i know
20:43	Doc22	sorry oldcoder
20:43	KikaRz	.-.
20:43	Doc22	here is bridge
20:43	Doc22	http://ompldr.org/vZ2NlaQ
20:43	KikaRz	its already downloaded
20:43	OldCoder	Hi
20:43	KikaRz	i didnt seen them
20:44	Doc22	oh ok
20:44	KikaRz	failed to run mod...
20:44	OldCoder	Doc22, that is the latest birthstones?
20:44	Doc22	that is the bridge
20:44	Doc22	http://ompldr.org/vZ2Nkcg
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20:44	Doc22	is latest
20:44	KikaRz	technic\init.lua
20:44	KikaRz	OMG
20:44	KikaRz	what now?
20:44	Doc22	idk
20:45	KikaRz	need to post in the friendly Pastebin?
20:45	OldCoder	Doc22, you have an init.txt in birthstone. Is that an accident?
20:45	OldCoder	*birthstones
20:45	Doc22	yes it is
20:45	Doc22	stupid wordpad
20:46	VanessaE	bbl.
20:46	KikaRz	hate bugs and errors.
20:46	KikaRz	except my friendly glitches in games.
20:46	NekoGloop	KikaRz: Like VAR beam in Super Metroid?
20:47	KikaRz	http://pastebin.com/MFVaQmD2
20:47	KikaRz	no
20:47	KikaRz	like Ovni in GTA 4.
20:47	KikaRz	ups
20:48	KikaRz	like the space ship unidentified taking us
20:48	KikaRz	to nowhere
20:48	NekoGloop	VAR beam lets you get infinite crap :P
20:48	KikaRz	Who can see that bug?
20:48	KikaRz	http://pastebin.com/MFVaQmD2
20:48	NekoGloop	KikaRz: Use RBA's stairsplus
20:49	KikaRz	that modified one that was saying?
20:49	OldCoder	Doc22, I will delete it here. Delete it from master too.
20:49	Doc22	delete it?
20:49	OldCoder	NekoGloop, hi; how is it going?
20:49	OldCoder	Doc22, the init.txt file
20:49	Doc22	what is wrong
20:49	Doc22	oh ok
20:49	Doc22	yeah
20:49	OldCoder	Doc22, which is current? init.lua or init.txt ?
20:49	Doc22	init.lua
20:50	OldCoder	Doc22, sure?
20:50	KikaRz	going to try again
20:50	OldCoder	Doc22, about ready to update
20:50	OldCoder	Doc22, to be safe
20:50	Doc22	yes im sure
20:50	KikaRz	worked :D
20:50	Doc22	i tested it
20:50	OldCoder	Doc22, link the exact links for the three mods again please
20:50	Doc22	ok
20:50	Doc22	i will
20:51	OldCoder	opalbridge birthstones campfire
20:51	Doc22	http://ompldr.org/vZ2NlaQ opalbridge
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20:51	Doc22	http://ompldr.org/vZ2Nhaw campfire
20:52	Doc22	http://ompldr.org/vZ2Nkcg birthstones 1.
20:52	OldCoder	Wait
20:52	Doc22	1.2*
20:52	Doc22	ill remove init.txt in next update
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20:52	babyface1031	i g2g bbl
20:53	Doc22	bye
20:53	OldCoder	babyface1031, cu
20:53	OldCoder	Doc22, hang on
20:53	Doc22	yes?
20:53	KikaRz	black screen
20:53	KikaRz	'-'
20:53	KikaRz	is it loading?
20:53	OldCoder	Patience is a virtue
20:54	OldCoder	Doc22, I am restarting Octuworld
20:54	Doc22	ok
20:54	Doc22	i warned everyone
20:55	OldCoder	Doc22, reenter
20:55	Doc22	ok
20:55	OldCoder	Test all three mods please
20:55	KikaRz	doc22
20:55	OldCoder	Test as much as possible
20:55	KikaRz	how i make a crafting recipe book
20:55	KikaRz	?
20:55	Doc22	ok
20:55	Doc22	what kika
20:55	NekoGloop	KikaRz: No such thing exists.
20:55	Doc22	stick stick -
20:55	Doc22	stick stick -
20:55	Doc22	stick - -
20:55	NekoGloop	Unless you have some mod i dont know about.
20:55	KikaRz	A mod -.-
20:55	Doc22	its a mod
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20:56	Kacey	hello
20:56	KikaRz	Welcome back Penguin and Kacey.
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20:56	NekoGloop	KikaRz: That mod doesnt like to work properly; i suggest you dont use it.
20:56	Doc22	hey
20:56	Doc22	it works gine
20:56	Doc22	fine*
20:56	KikaRz	Stop blipping me or ill block you
20:56	Kacey	O.o we should make a nuclear disatser map O.o
20:56	NekoGloop	Doc22: You can steal items out of it, and recipes using groups dont display properly.
20:57	Doc22	oh
20:57	Doc22	hmmm
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20:57	Doc22	kacey you have give right
20:57	OldCoder	NakedFury, I am adding interact for you in Veritas World
20:57	Doc22	i need you to come back on and test the mod
20:57	Doc22	if the items are in
20:57	Kacey	who all wants to make a nuclear disaster map?
20:57	Doc22	me
20:57	KikaRz	me
20:57	Kacey	i dont have give
20:58	Doc22	oh
20:58	Doc22	oldcoder
20:58	Penguin	How We All Doing
20:58	OldCoder	Doc22
20:58	OldCoder	Doc22, test the mods please
20:58	Doc22	give me or kacey give (or u come on and give yourself what i say and tell me if it works) so we can test the modd
20:58	OldCoder	Wait
20:58	Doc22	ok
20:58	KikaRz	fuck this access violation
20:58	Kacey	olccoder can we have a port to make maps and such?
20:59	OldCoder	Doc22, as a thank you for the mods you get give for now unless somebody objects later on
20:59	Doc22	ok
20:59	Doc22	thanks
20:59	OldCoder	what is your nick?
20:59	NekoGloop	MC Iron blocks are ID 42; does this make Iron blocks the answer?
20:59	Kacey	i object now because i am moderator of the server...
20:59	Doc22	"Doc"
20:59	OldCoder	Hmm
20:59	Doc22	give kacey give then
20:59	OldCoder	Wrong world
20:59	OldCoder	Hold on
20:59	Doc22	i gues
20:59	Doc22	guess
20:59	Doc22	kacey does that make it better
21:00	Doc22	if you get it too
21:00	OldCoder	??
21:00	Kacey	yes i have been asking for give forever
21:00	Doc22	im wondering
21:00	OldCoder	Is Kacey trustworthy?
21:00	Doc22	yes
21:00	Kacey	yes
21:00	Doc22	kacey doesnt grief
21:00	OldCoder	I think one of you gets it
21:00	Kacey	i only use it when something is needed
21:00	OldCoder	The other can ask Octupus or Baby Face
21:00	OldCoder	Who gets it?
21:00	Doc22	ok well kacey has been here longer
21:00	Doc22	so kacey
21:00	Kacey	no more -1 crap like in menches server
21:00	Penguin	OldCoder Server Proformance Has Been Better Since You Changed The Depth lol
21:00	OldCoder	-1 ?
21:00	Doc22	lol
21:01	Doc22	it is for infinite items
21:01	OldCoder	Penguin, O.K.
21:01	OldCoder	Heh
21:01	Kacey	why not make doc a mod and give us both give?
21:01	OldCoder	Well, shall it be Doc or Kacey?
21:01	KikaRz	stupid access violationjm
21:01	Doc22	kacey because he has been here longer
21:01	OldCoder	Kacey, that will be decided by Octupus and Baby Face
21:01	OldCoder	Kacey I have give you give
21:01	OldCoder	Don't misuse it
21:01	Kacey	yay i wont mis use it
21:01	Doc22	kacey give me the items i ask for so i can test it
21:02	KikaRz	i have GAVE you "give"
21:02	Kacey	i will doc
21:02	OldCoder	KikaRz, But that is less humorous
21:02	KikaRz	well
21:02	KikaRz	going to start making my factory
21:02	KikaRz	my house
21:02	KikaRz	etc
21:03	KikaRz	and going out of firefox because he eats my memory at all
21:03	Doc22	kacey come on
21:03	Kacey	it is up?
21:03	Doc22	ya...
21:03	KikaRz	if you want , add me in msn
21:03	KikaRz	chica39live.com.pt
21:03	KikaRz	kisses
21:03	Kacey	k
21:03	Doc22	i dont have msm
21:03	Doc22	msn
21:04	FreeFull	You can actually add msn contacts on yahoo messenger and vice versa
21:08	Doc22	oldcoder
21:08	Doc22	something is wrong with the textures
21:09	Doc22	of birthstones
21:09	Penguin	Coder i might make a mod any idears
21:10	Doc22	oldcoder\
21:10	Doc22	there is something wrong
21:10	Doc22	you installed it wrong
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21:11	Doc22	oldcoder...
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21:17	OldCoder	Doc22, Hi
21:18	OldCoder	Doc22, Actually I did not
21:18	OldCoder	Hold on
21:18	Doc22	hmm
21:18	Doc22	the textures are wrong
21:19	OldCoder	Wait
21:19	OldCoder	Doc22, I think I see the issue
21:20	OldCoder	Doc22, Under Linux things are case sensitive
21:20	OldCoder	Rename Textures to textures please
21:20	OldCoder	Doc22, I will restart world 30004 now
21:20	Doc22	ok
21:20	Doc22	ill do that
21:20	OldCoder	Restarting
21:20	Penguin	okay
21:20	OldCoder	Tell me if problem is fixed after you get back on
21:21	Penguin	coder i am gona make a mod any idears
21:21	OldCoder
21:21	Doc22	lesson learned
21:21	OldCoder	Penguin, the possibilities are wide open
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21:21	OldCoder	Doc22, yeah
21:21	Kacey	y did server shut down
21:21	OldCoder	Doc22, Like don't say "You installed it wrong" until you know :p
21:22	Doc22	yeah sorry
21:22	OldCoder	Kacey, Reinstalling one of Doc22 mods
21:22	OldCoder	Kacey, go back in now
21:22	OldCoder	This is why we test new mods :-)
21:22	Kacey	uugh ok
21:22	Penguin	i no but any initial new mods you want
21:23	Doc22	i had tested it... (on windows)
21:24	OldCoder	Penguin, ask the channel
21:24	OldCoder	People, what might Penguin make?
21:24	OldCoder	Penguin, start with something simple
21:24	OldCoder	A new skin perhaps
21:24	OldCoder	For an object
21:24	OldCoder	To add variety
21:24	OldCoder	We can't do new people yet
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21:24	OldCoder	But that is coming
21:24	OldCoder	sdzen, welcome
21:25	OldCoder	Penguin, what objects might be modified a little for variety?
21:25	OldCoder	For example
21:25	Penguin	What About Player Textures
21:25	OldCoder	See note above
21:25	OldCoder	Right above actually :-)
21:25	OldCoder	<OldCoder> We can't do new people yet
21:25	OldCoder	<OldCoder> But that is coming
21:25	OldCoder	It is easy to add new people
21:25	Penguin	oh
21:25	OldCoder	But I need to spend a little time
21:25	OldCoder	Making it so
21:26	OldCoder	Penguin can be a penguin
21:26	OldCoder	NekoGloop can be a kitty
21:26	OldCoder	Doc22 can have a stethoscope
21:26	OldCoder	Hmm
21:26	Kacey	what about me?
21:26	Doc22	huh
21:26	OldCoder	Kacey, what would you be?
21:26	OldCoder	A dragon perhaps?
21:26	Doc22	oh
21:26	Kacey	no dragons arent awesome
21:26	Doc22	i wanna be a scientist
21:26	Kacey	i will be CHUCK NORRIS!!!!!
21:26	OldCoder	Pick something awesome
21:26	OldCoder	All right
21:26	OldCoder	Do him in 32X
21:27	Doc22	lol
21:27	OldCoder	Doc22, Scientist is good
21:27	Kacey	lol
21:27	Penguin	i Could Make Chest commands
21:27	Doc22	with a white lab suit
21:27	Doc22	ill make the texture
21:27	OldCoder	Doc22, sure
21:27	Doc22	32x16?
21:27	OldCoder	Penguin, start with something simpler maybe
21:27	Doc22	or what
21:27	OldCoder	Doc22, No
21:27	OldCoder	Doc22, hold on a moment
21:27	Doc22	ok
21:28	OldCoder	Doc22, review these two images:
21:28	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/player.png
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21:28	Doc22	ok
21:28	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/player_back.png
21:28	Doc22	those are what i see regularly
21:28	OldCoder	Doc22, Make a scientist like that
21:28	OldCoder	The point is
21:28	Doc22	they look good and smooth
21:28	Doc22	ok
21:28	Penguin	link me to a mod make download my one wont work
21:28	OldCoder	Penguin, Explain
21:28	Doc22	ill make one i guess
21:29	OldCoder	Doc22, the point is they give you the details of what is needed
21:29	Doc22	oldcoder
21:29	Penguin	Doc What Do You Use To Make A Mod
21:29	Doc22	it isnt gems:mineral_opal
21:29	Doc22	wordpad
21:29	Doc22	:D
21:29	Doc22	and pixlr.com/editor
21:29	Doc22	for the textures
21:29	OldCoder	Doc22, Download the gems mod and inspect it
21:29	OldCoder	see for yourself
21:30	Doc22	yeah ill do that if i have to
21:30	Doc22	lol
21:30	OldCoder	Doc22, I grepped the code
21:30	Doc22	oh goody!
21:30	Doc22	github
21:33	Penguin	doc make me a pick axe textues
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21:36	Penguin	hello
21:38	Doc22	oldcoder
21:38	Doc22	on github it is gems:opal
21:38	Doc22	kacey tried giving me it
21:38	Doc22	and it didnt work
21:38	Doc22	it says unknown
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21:38	Penguin	coder
21:39	Doc22	oh what penguin
21:41	Penguin	Server lag alot
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21:44	KikaRz	back
21:45	KikaRz	i deleted my cache folder
21:45	KikaRz	now im not having that problem of Stupid Access ...
21:48	ruskie	hmm anyone tried minetest with irrlicht 1.8 yet?
21:48	KikaRz	VanessaE, where is everyone?
21:48	KikaRz	Nope ruskie
21:48	KikaRz	why you dont try yourself?
21:51	OldCoder	Hi
21:51	OldCoder	Doc22, My copy does not say that
21:51	OldCoder	Doc22, hold on
21:51	KikaRz	Ow, you there!
21:51	OldCoder	Yes
21:51	KikaRz	Ok, what server are you at?
21:51	OldCoder	Who, me?
21:52	KikaRz	yea
21:52	KikaRz	and doc22
21:52	OldCoder	Can't go online ATM
21:52	OldCoder	Busy elsewhere
21:52	OldCoder	Doc22, download this
21:52	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/gems.zip
21:52	OldCoder	That is my copy
21:52	KikaRz	your copy of ?
21:52	OldCoder	of gems.zip for Doc22
21:53	KikaRz	ok
21:53	KikaRz	in minetest.org:30003 im stucked down the trampoline
21:53	KikaRz	:(
21:57	RealBadAngel	ruskie: Jeija did
21:57	RealBadAngel	he has minetest sources fixed to work with 1.8
21:58	OldCoder	KikaRz, there is supposed to be a way out
21:58	KikaRz	no
21:58	KikaRz	it isnt
21:58	OldCoder	I was told you are supposed to jump on the trampoline
21:58	OldCoder	Is there one?
21:58	KikaRz	well
21:58	OldCoder	KikaRz, coming
21:58	KikaRz	it was delayed
21:58	KikaRz	and i gone down it
21:59	KikaRz	x_x
21:59	OldCoder	Oh; does it work now?
21:59	KikaRz	im with 2 hearts
21:59	RealBadAngel	ok, i made shitload of coding today, and it works
21:59	KikaRz	|  |
21:59	KikaRz	|  |
21:59	OldCoder	KikaRz, is there a trampoline?
21:59	KikaRz	|   |
21:59	KikaRz	|Me |
21:59	OldCoder	KikaRz, is there a trampoline?
21:59	KikaRz	at the top of me
21:59	KikaRz	im stucked in 4 walls
21:59	RealBadAngel	goin to take a nap then make it ready to be merged
21:59	KikaRz	each one with a lamp
21:59	KikaRz	wait a sec
21:59	KikaRz	entering minetest...
22:02	KikaRz	im in server
22:02	OldCoder	KikaRz, Do I need to TP you out?
22:03	KikaRz	enter the server
22:06	KikaRz	are you coming? :/
22:08	KikaRz	you there OldCoder? :/
22:09	OldCoder	Hi
22:09	OldCoder	KikaRz, Do I need to TP you out?
22:09	OldCoder	Or is there a trampoline?
22:09	KikaRz	join the server to see
22:09	KikaRz	what is this bug.
22:10	OldCoder	I know what it is
22:10	OldCoder	Hold on
22:10	OldCoder	KikaRz, how is your nick spelled in this world?
22:12	OldCoder	O.K.
22:12	OldCoder	How do I TP her out of there?
22:12	OldCoder	Hmm
22:14	* OldCoder	shrugs
22:14	OldCoder	If Calinou doesn't explain how to get out of that trap we need to move spawn
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22:15	KikaRz	you give servers?
22:16	KikaRz	bye perttu
22:17	KikaRz	no initial stuff?
22:19	OldCoder	KikaRz, ?
22:19	KikaRz	You give servers?
22:19	OldCoder	KikaRz, I host Calinou World
22:19	KikaRz	because when i enter to a port,
22:19	OldCoder	Go on
22:19	KikaRz	there is a server
22:19	OldCoder	I have about 18 IIRC
22:22	KikaRz	how many worlds do you host?
22:29	KikaRz	OldCoder?
22:32	OldCoder	Hi
22:32	OldCoder	KikaRz, Lost count
22:32	OldCoder	Nearly 20
22:32	KikaRz	can you host more one? :p
22:32	OldCoder	Running out of CPU I think
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22:32	OldCoder	Need to start dropping some
22:32	OldCoder	babyface1031, Hi
22:32	babyface1031	hi
22:33	KikaRz	i was needing a server :p
22:33	KikaRz	i cant play really much in singleplayer
22:34	KikaRz	just with 0.3.1
22:34	OldCoder	KikaRz, what is your OS? Windows?
22:34	KikaRz	XP.
22:34	OldCoder	Wait
22:35	OldCoder	Hmm
22:35	KikaRz	what?
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22:35	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-121020.zip
22:35	OldCoder	anunakki, Hi
22:35	KikaRz	that's for?
22:35	OldCoder	KikaRz, try that client
22:35	OldCoder	You
22:35	OldCoder	Can play better offline maybe
22:35	KikaRz	its 0.4.3?
22:35	OldCoder	The keys are wrong but you can change them
22:35	OldCoder	Yes
22:35	OldCoder	It includes music and cache
22:35	OldCoder	Ready to run
22:35	KikaRz	direct3d?
22:36	OldCoder	I think it will work
22:36	OldCoder	Try it
22:36	OldCoder	See if so
22:36	KikaRz	wait
22:36	OldCoder	30MB
22:36	KikaRz	it supports maps?
22:36	KikaRz	and worldedit?
22:36	KikaRz	and +++
22:36	KikaRz	?
22:36	OldCoder	Yes
22:36	OldCoder	It should
22:37	OldCoder	WorldEdit may not be latest version but ty it
22:37	OldCoder	*try it
22:37	KikaRz	Because i like exploring sites...
22:37	KikaRz	i found some girls into celeron temp
22:37	KikaRz	http://c55.me/temp/
22:37	KikaRz	xd
22:38	KikaRz	downloading
22:38	KikaRz	dd
22:41	KikaRz	omg
22:41	KikaRz	so many cache
22:41	OldCoder	It is good
22:41	OldCoder	Makes it fast!
22:42	OldCoder	KikaRz, this client will work standalone and with my current servers
22:42	OldCoder	I will be in a discussion elsewhere for a little while
22:42	KikaRz	ok
22:43	KikaRz	let me try it
22:44	KikaRz	Not working for Direct3D9
22:45	KikaRz	and not working for D3D 8
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22:46	KikaRz	OldCoder
22:47	KikaRz	may i change the DLL for that that is working?
22:48	KikaRz	huh?
22:48	KikaRz	hello???
22:51	KikaRz	OldCoder, you there?
22:52	mrtux	he is away KikaRz
22:53	mrtux	he will be back soon
22:55	OldCoder	Hi
22:55	OldCoder	KikaRz, I am here
22:55	OldCoder	Yes
22:55	OldCoder	You can try
22:55	OldCoder	But build may not permit it
22:55	KikaRz	Nope
22:55	OldCoder	See what happens
22:55	KikaRz	it dont work
22:55	KikaRz	:(
22:55	OldCoder	I can build a new one
22:55	KikaRz	Ok
22:55	KikaRz	build
22:55	OldCoder	But not this next week
22:55	OldCoder	Sorry; can't
22:55	OldCoder	But will
22:55	OldCoder	In time
22:55	KikaRz	:(
22:56	OldCoder	I am genuinely sorry
22:56	OldCoder	There are circumstances
22:56	OldCoder	I can only do things in small steps right now
22:56	OldCoder	I will help as possible
22:58	KikaRz	what if i put cache of that client in the normal one?
22:59	KikaRz	ok
22:59	KikaRz	OldCoder, you cant bring me a private world ?
23:00	KikaRz	just with WorldEdit and Furniture mod?
23:03	OldCoder	Hi
23:03	OldCoder	KikaRz, explain?
23:03	OldCoder	What do you mean bring?
23:04	KikaRz	giving me a private world or organizating a private world
23:04	KikaRz	just for building between us
23:04	KikaRz	for testing mesecon... technic...
23:04	KikaRz	etc.
23:04	KikaRz	well
23:04	KikaRz	just for trusting people
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23:06	Doc22	oldcoder what happened
23:06	KikaRz	wb
23:06	Doc22	while i was gone
23:06	Doc22	thanks kikd
23:06	Doc22	kika
23:06	OldCoder	Doc22, not much
23:06	Doc22	ok
23:06	OldCoder	KikaRz...
23:06	Doc22	did you fix the node names for gems
23:06	* OldCoder	laughs
23:06	KikaRz	what?
23:06	OldCoder	Everybody asks for their own world
23:07	KikaRz	hahahah
23:07	Doc22	i looked at the source
23:07	KikaRz	not for my own
23:07	OldCoder	"Why not? Let me have my own"
23:07	KikaRz	but yes, for every trusting people
23:07	OldCoder	Go play with the others
23:07	Doc22	and it says gems:opal is it
23:07	OldCoder	Doc22, go on
23:07	Doc22	i tried that
23:07	OldCoder	Look at my copy
23:07	Doc22	and it is unknown
23:07	M13	OldCoder PM
23:08	OldCoder	M13, I am there
23:08	OldCoder	Doc22, bbs
23:08	Doc22	ok
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23:13	OldCoder	Doc22 ??
23:13	* OldCoder	shrugs
23:14	KikaRz	ok
23:14	KikaRz	so, what are you doing guys?
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23:14	KikaRz	Welcome back for the third time Doc22. :D
23:14	Doc22	lol
23:14	Doc22	oldcoder did 30004 go down
23:15	Doc22	oh never mind
23:15	OldCoder	Doc22, Hi
23:15	Doc22	hi
23:15	OldCoder	Doc22, did you unpack *my* copy of gems mod?
23:15	Doc22	no I didnt get it
23:15	Doc22	sorry
23:16	OldCoder	Start there
23:16	OldCoder	Whatever you looked at is not relevant
23:16	OldCoder	Download the actual mod
23:16	OldCoder	BTW Did you test your three?
23:16	Doc22	yes
23:16	OldCoder	Working?
23:17	Doc22	the generation of my gems works in unexplored areas
23:17	Doc22	and the gems work
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23:17	Mikeonline	hi
23:17	Doc22	and the campfire
23:17	Doc22	and the bridge works
23:17	Doc22	except when you give gems:opal to someone
23:17	Doc22	it gives them stone
23:17	Doc22	kacey tried /give with it
23:17	Doc22	and it gave me stone as well
23:17	Doc22	so it is the id
23:18	Doc22	where is *your* copy of gems
23:18	OldCoder
23:18	OldCoder	Doc22, I told you before:
23:18	Doc22	and i changed the anount that spawn
23:18	Doc22	it is better
23:18	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/gems.zip
23:18	Doc22	i am sorry i missed it
23:18	OldCoder	There it is
23:19	Mikeonline	if there is a function on_place = function(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing) for a node. how can i overwrite this function from another script? like farming.nodefoo.on_place()?
23:20	Doc22	the alias messes it up
23:20	Doc22	minetest.register_alias("gems:mineral_opal","default:stone")
23:20	OldCoder	Doc22, feel free to suggest things
23:20	OldCoder	Yes I know the line
23:20	Doc22	this messes it up
23:20	OldCoder	What do you wish?
23:20	Doc22	so when the recipe output = gems:opal, it gives you stone not opal
23:20	OldCoder	What do you wish?
23:21	Doc22	the bridge is supposed to switch between the opals
23:21	Doc22	this messes it up
23:21	Doc22	so the bridge is useless unless you remove that line
23:21	OldCoder	Doc22, what will consequences be?
23:21	Doc22	nothing
23:22	OldCoder	To use of gems mod in general?
23:22	Doc22	but you can craft stone from an opal...
23:22	OldCoder	Doc22, what will consequences be?
23:22	OldCoder	To use of gems mod in general?
23:22	Doc22	no consequenses
23:22	OldCoder	Why is the line there, then?
23:22	Doc22	to remove opal generation
23:22	OldCoder	If you can guess
23:22	Doc22	oh i see
23:22	OldCoder	Hmm
23:22	OldCoder	Why did he use it?
23:23	Doc22	to replace opal ore with stone
23:23	OldCoder	We *know* that
23:23	OldCoder	Why did he do this?
23:23	OldCoder	Speculation?
23:23	Doc22	i dont know except to remove support for opal
23:23	OldCoder	Hmm
23:23	OldCoder	Is there any possible reason?
23:23	OldCoder	Are Opals deadly?
23:23	Doc22	no
23:24	OldCoder	Why might he have done this?
23:24	OldCoder	Any thoughts?
23:24	Doc22	this is done for garnet and aquamarine and diamond
23:24	Doc22	i dont get it
23:24	Doc22	that removes all of them...
23:24	OldCoder	maybe best not to screw with it
23:24	OldCoder	Why would he do this?
23:24	Doc22	i dont know!
23:24	OldCoder	I suppose you can be a guinea pig
23:24	Doc22	to change the ores???
23:24	OldCoder	Hold on
23:24	* OldCoder	edits
23:24	OldCoder	Go on
23:24	OldCoder	What are your thoughts?
23:25	Doc22	from the old ones to ruby etc/
23:25	Doc22	am i right?
23:25	OldCoder	Where would Opal fit into this?
23:25	KikaRz	bye guys
23:25	KikaRz	need to sleep
23:25	Doc22	my mod?
23:25	OldCoder	KikaRz, c u
23:25	Doc22	be
23:25	Doc22	bye
23:25	OldCoder	Doc22, no; his
23:25	KikaRz	tomorrow ill be here early
23:25	KikaRz	bye
23:25	OldCoder	Why did he disable the stones?
23:25	OldCoder	Hmm
23:25	Doc22	he removed support
23:26	OldCoder	Is there any reason they might not work?
23:26	Doc22	because of this addon?
23:26	OldCoder	Which addon?
23:26	Doc22	because they generate too deep?
23:26	OldCoder	That would not hurt anything would it?
23:26	Doc22	the one that you sent me
23:26	OldCoder	Which one?
23:26	Doc22	you couldnt get it
23:26	Doc22	tht minetes.org/gems
23:26	OldCoder	So?
23:26	OldCoder	How would generate too deep mean they needed to be disabled?
23:27	OldCoder	Don't worry
23:27	Doc22	can you tell me
23:27	OldCoder	Go on
23:27	Doc22	i don't see why
23:27	OldCoder	I am editing
23:27	Doc22	because the world stops
23:27	Doc22	i knew that
23:28	Doc22	at -1000
23:28	Doc22	or so
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23:31	OldCoder	Doc22, I don't see why that means he'd disable them
23:31	OldCoder	Doc22, But if you wish to
23:31	OldCoder	try I will enable now
23:32	OldCoder	Doc22, I am restarting 30004 again
23:32	Doc22	ok
23:32	Doc22	i dont get it
23:32	OldCoder	See what burns up or explodes please
23:32	Doc22	can you just tell me why he disabled them
23:32	OldCoder	I don't know
23:32	OldCoder	That is what I am asking you to guess at
23:32	Doc22	oh
23:32	* OldCoder	shrugs
23:32	OldCoder	Try the world and see what happens
23:32	babyface1031	what you two working on
23:32	OldCoder	All four are enabled now
23:33	OldCoder	Doc22, explain it for her
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23:33	OldCoder	Save me a minute
23:33	OldCoder	babyface1031, NekoGloop disabled four stones
23:33	Doc22	we are finding out why opal is disabled
23:33	OldCoder	in his gems mod. We don't know why he did it. I have enabled them.
23:33	Kacey	server shut down
23:33	babyface1031	oh
23:33	OldCoder	See if they work now
23:33	Doc22	and diamond and garnet and one other
23:33	OldCoder	Kacey, We are updating gems for Doc22 test
23:33	OldCoder	Kacey, to give you more stuff
23:34	Kacey	ooh i thought it was my deployer
23:34	OldCoder	Nope
23:34	OldCoder	Have fun
23:34	Kacey	ok
23:34	OldCoder	Try opals etc. now Doc22
23:34	Doc22	item definitions messed up
23:34	OldCoder	Is there a loud Boom?
23:34	Doc22	no
23:34	babyface1031	i know one was diamond but i understand why that was disabled
23:34	OldCoder	Doc22, go on
23:34	Doc22	on my bridge
23:34	OldCoder	babyface1031, go on please
23:34	Doc22	i tried the craft
23:34	Doc22	and it said unknown item
23:34	Doc22	he probably removed support
23:34	OldCoder	babyface1031, go on please; should I take out diamonds?
23:35	babyface1031	i just thought he took that one out cause there was already diamonds
23:36	babyface1031	i dont know if they are the same diamonds or diffrent but i am sure it you confuse ppl on crafting and inventory
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23:38	babyface1031	is that right?
23:39	OldCoder	Hmm
23:39	OldCoder	Checking all mods now
23:39	OldCoder	Technic has diamond
23:39	OldCoder	Two different types
23:40	OldCoder	Hmm
23:40	OldCoder	So does birthstones
23:40	OldCoder	Doc22, will birthstones conflict with technic?
23:40	Doc22	no
23:40	OldCoder	Shall I disable diamonds in gems?
23:40	Doc22	because it has a different node
23:41	babyface1031	i just thought players might get confused with crafting if there is mulitiple diamonds items
23:41	OldCoder	Yes
23:41	OldCoder	That is right
23:41	babyface1031	and doc opal is october not july
23:41	OldCoder	babyface1031, Doc22 see if Opals etc. work now
23:41	Doc22	ok
23:42	Doc22	my opals or gems' opals
23:42	Doc22	ok babyface
23:42	babyface1031	birthstone
23:42	Doc22	ill fix it sometime
23:42	OldCoder	Doc22, either
23:42	Doc22	ok
23:43	Doc22	they work...
23:44	Doc22	mine show up fine
23:44	OldCoder	So all I need to do is disable diamonds again
23:44	Doc22	ok
23:44	OldCoder	Well maybe this is progress today
23:45	Doc22	yeah
23:45	OldCoder	Doc22, continue to test things
23:45	Doc22	like what
23:45	babyface1031	thats up to you i just thought thats why it was
23:45	Doc22	ive tested everything
23:45	OldCoder	babyface1031, fair enough
23:45	OldCoder	Doc22, longer term
23:45	Doc22	ive tested all of my mods
23:45	Doc22	and gems mod
23:46	Doc22	gems like diamond and opal dont work in gems mod
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23:58	Mikeonline	hm if pointed_thing.above is pos above how can i get pointed_thing.pos ?
23:58	Mikeonline	.pos?

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