| Time |
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| 00:00 |
Peacock |
in my case cola i need the sugar too lol |
| 00:02 |
Peacock |
yesterday it snowed for the first time :/ in a not totally unrelated turn of events, i think i also had something like 12~13 beers lol |
| 00:03 |
Peacock |
just seeing the christmas stuff in shop windows is depressing enough lol |
| 00:03 |
Menche |
some stores have had christmas stuff since before halloween |
| 00:04 |
Peacock |
jesus christ lol |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: btw, take your cold weather back to canuckistan, we weren't ready for it down here yet ;) |
| 00:06 |
Peacock |
parts of the US had snowstorms like a month ago lol |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
yeah but not down here in NC |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
we were expecting snow on tuesday but that's been canceled |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
(the state government voted against it ;) ) |
| 00:06 |
Peacock |
damn Obamma XD |
| 00:07 |
Peacock |
i noticed a pattern in the media where people in the comments section blame obamma for everything, even the weather lol |
| 00:08 |
Peacock |
we dont get to vote on the weather though |
| 00:08 |
kaeza |
http://forlackofabettercomic.com/?id=136 |
| 00:08 |
Peacock |
our cities are too busy cutting deals with the mafia or cleaning up the city by smoking all the crack in it lol |
| 00:08 |
Peacock |
(mayors) |
| 00:09 |
Peacock |
theres one M in Obama? |
| 00:09 |
Peacock |
that could have been embarrassing, he's been in office for a while lol |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 00:11 |
Peacock |
that was quick: WxWidgets 3.0: First Major Release in Seven Years |
| 00:14 |
* Menche |
thought blaming everything on Bush was the cool thing to do |
| 00:14 |
* Menche |
sees that a lot more often at least |
| 00:14 |
Peacock |
well he did drive the economy into a ditch, and wage two wars on tab |
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Exio4 |
Peacock: quick was e17's release |
| 00:15 |
Peacock |
and the repubs try to blame those problems on Obama who was elected afterwards lol |
| 00:15 |
Menche |
...even though stuff's gotten worse under Obama |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
stuff woulda gotten worse even faster under rMoney.. |
| 00:17 |
Peacock |
things would have been shit no matter who won |
| 00:17 |
Peacock |
Thatcher: "Yes, the medicine is harsh, but the patient requires it in order to live." |
| 00:18 |
Peacock |
perhaps next time y'all will think twice about waging two wars while cutting taxes, merging and deregulating banks |
| 00:20 |
Peacock |
so yeah, blame Obama if you want :P it just sucks for him he has to spend all his political capital fixing this mess instead of implementing his own agenda |
| 00:23 |
Peacock |
though you can always take comfort by look at what a joke Canadian politics are :P |
| 00:26 |
Peacock |
"International Space Station Infected With Malware Carried By Russian Astronauts" - apparently all the astronauts won a free cruise XD |
| 00:27 |
khonkhortisan |
The hacker could be charged with murder if a computer went down long enough for some form of life support to stop working |
| 00:28 |
Peacock |
well computer crimes are already pretty serious in the west |
| 00:28 |
Peacock |
but yeah, fucking with life support would be a dick move |
| 00:36 |
lutoma |
derp |
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Peacock |
herpaderp |
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Peacock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1281 <--- doesn't indicate what the function returns |
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kaeza |
Peacock, should be obvious from the function name :P |
| 01:38 |
Peacock |
yeah but it should at least say an array of objectrefs lol |
| 01:43 |
* RealBadAngel |
yawns |
| 01:44 |
OldCoder |
That is contagious |
| 01:46 |
us_0gb |
Is the de facto skin module still the one by Zeg9, or did that change in my absence? |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
personally I like player_textures more |
| 01:47 |
us_0gb |
Why is that? |
| 01:48 |
us_0gb |
I know that one was the original. |
| 01:48 |
kaeza |
some players (and myself) prefer unique skins |
| 01:49 |
us_0gb |
Ah, is that all? No worries then. The fork I use has both options. |
| 01:50 |
us_0gb |
It first checks for a unique skin, and if you don't have it, it presents you with the skin list (which does not include peoples' unique skins). |
| 01:50 |
kaeza |
that sounds useful |
| 01:51 |
kaeza |
link? |
| 01:51 |
us_0gb |
It may have been lost when 0gb.us_game was lost .... I was able to upload an outdated version, but it was missing some stuff. |
| 01:51 |
us_0gb |
I'll look to see if it's still there. |
| 01:52 |
us_0gb |
It's an old fork, so it doesn't use Zeg9's new features either. |
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us_0gb |
Okay, it's stil here, but my be buggy: https://github.com/0gb-us/0gb.us_game/blob/master/0gb.us_game/mods/skins/init.lua |
| 01:53 |
us_0gb |
kaeza, ^ |
| 01:57 |
us_0gb |
Hmm. The new skin previews are overly large ... There's got to be a better way to generate them than using Blender. An image slice-and-dicer would generate smaller images. |
| 01:57 |
us_0gb |
I'll have to work on that when I have time. |
| 02:13 |
NakedFury |
almost done with Batman Arkham Asylum game |
| 02:13 |
us_0gb |
I don't know if I want to deal with multiple menus this time .... I might just leave out the skin changer. |
| 02:13 |
us_0gb |
NakedFury, What system? |
| 02:13 |
NakedFury |
windows |
| 02:14 |
NakedFury |
got it from humble bundle with the second batman game and some others for $5 |
| 02:14 |
us_0gb |
Oh, nice. |
| 02:14 |
us_0gb |
I used to get a lot of games there. |
| 02:14 |
us_0gb |
They have a great verity! |
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us_0gb |
*variety |
| 02:16 |
NakedFury |
Batman 1 and 2. Scribblenauts unlimited, F.E.A.R 2 and 3. Lord of the Rings War of the north |
| 02:16 |
NakedFury |
https://www.humblebundle.com/ |
| 02:17 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, I know where the site is, ha ha. |
| 02:17 |
NakedFury |
then they added a new Humble Store thingy with gam es at half the price. |
| 02:17 |
NakedFury |
Prison Architect, Dont Starve, natural selection, anda few others |
| 02:18 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, four worlds are up and seem to be working |
| 02:18 |
OldCoder |
Help with your world will be appreciated |
| 02:18 |
us_0gb |
I have Prison Architect. I don't play it any more, but I probably have it on my back up drive still. |
| 02:18 |
OldCoder |
Shall I bring it back right now? |
| 02:19 |
NakedFury |
how could I help |
| 02:19 |
OldCoder |
Simple |
| 02:19 |
OldCoder |
See what is broken |
| 02:19 |
OldCoder |
And suggest fixes; that is all |
| 02:19 |
NakedFury |
since prison architect is still in alpha or beta or whatever there is not much. Same with Rimworld |
| 02:19 |
OldCoder |
Also, please give me coords and names of places. Places Mod will help. |
| 02:19 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, ^ |
| 02:19 |
NakedFury |
ok |
| 02:20 |
us_0gb |
NakedFury, Probably the game I got there that was my favorite at the time was Organ Trail. |
| 02:20 |
us_0gb |
Did you get that one? |
| 02:20 |
Menche |
Organ Trail? |
| 02:20 |
Menche |
lol |
| 02:21 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, Organ Trail. A game about a zombie apocalypse. |
| 02:21 |
us_0gb |
I usually do NOT like zombie games due to the way zombies are portrayed. But despite the poor portrayal, I loved that game. |
| 02:56 |
NakedFury |
wwwwwwwwwwwwdddddddwdd |
| 02:57 |
NakedFury |
fuck |
| 02:58 |
NakedFury |
game keeps switching windows |
| 03:22 |
ShadowNinja |
us_0gb: I have a copy of (old_)0gb_us_game from just before you took it down. |
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us_0gb |
ShadowNinja, You do? You're awesome! That could save me a lot of recoding. |
| 03:23 |
us_0gb |
THis time it won't go down, but it will be in pieces. |
| 03:24 |
us_0gb |
(So no 0gb.us_game, but the modules separately will be available as long as GitHub lets me stay.) |
| 03:26 |
ShadowNinja |
Ah, that seems good. |
| 03:34 |
NakedFury |
batman done |
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dmitryk1 |
Hi! I try compile minetest ang get error: error LNK2005: _ungetc already defined in LIBCMT.lib(ungetc.obj).\minetest-build\src\MSVCRT.lib(MSVCR100.dll)minetest |
| 05:06 |
dmitryk1 |
hwat can i do? It in MSVC. |
| 05:06 |
dmitryk1 |
Can U help me? |
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| 05:44 |
us|0gb |
The laptop doesn't suspend when you close it, the volume dial doesn't do anything, the screen brightness cannot be adjusted .... I know LXDE is light, but this is ridiculous. I'm going back to GNOME. |
| 05:46 |
us|0gb |
(Yes, I'm being a bit picky, I know.) |
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VanessaE |
\o/ darkrose's Minetest-Classic is (mostly) supported by HDX now :D |
| 06:07 |
us|0gb |
Yay! |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
I just have to wait for her to respond to my reports so I can remedy the "mostly" part :) |
| 06:09 |
us|0gb |
Sounds like a good plan. |
| 06:12 |
Menche |
there a way to download just the -classic textures? |
| 06:14 |
VanessaE |
Menche: grab one of the "Stable" release ZIPs. |
| 06:14 |
VanessaE |
that'll get all the default stuff, but it's for all four games. |
| 06:15 |
Menche |
hmm. ok. |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
it's too much trouble to try to maintain separate archives for all possible resolution + game combinations |
| 06:19 |
Menche |
seems to be targetted at a version without the 3D torches |
| 06:20 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 06:20 |
VanessaE |
it's a bug I have to resolve with darkrose |
| 06:20 |
VanessaE |
just delete the torch, door, and signs images from the HDX release. |
| 06:20 |
us|0gb |
We have 3D torches now? |
| 06:20 |
Menche |
in -classic |
| 06:21 |
us|0gb |
Okay, got it. |
| 06:22 |
* Menche |
doesn't get what the bug is |
| 06:22 |
Menche |
the torch.png wasn't made to map to the new torch model |
| 06:22 |
VanessaE |
yeah I know |
| 06:23 |
VanessaE |
the texture filename conflicts with minetest 0.4.x |
| 06:23 |
VanessaE |
I need to get darkrose to change it. Same for signs and doors. |
| 06:23 |
Menche |
isn't it "default_torch.png" in 0.4.x? |
| 06:23 |
VanessaE |
else I'll be forced to make a separate -classic release. |
| 06:23 |
VanessaE |
it's a conflict with mt_nostalgia probably |
| 06:24 |
Menche |
mt_nostalgia doesn't follow texture naming conventions? |
| 06:24 |
VanessaE |
it tries to stick to 0.2.x/0.3.x naming conventions I guess |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE |
If necessary, I'll push some updates to mt_nostalgia to resolve the conflict but I need darkrose's input too. |
| 06:27 |
Menche |
only the bottom half of the door is textured |
| 06:27 |
VanessaE |
I know. same issue. |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
(well, that's a conflict with 0.4.x minetest_game) |
| 06:31 |
Menche |
windowed door is missing all textures |
| 06:31 |
VanessaE |
I know. |
| 06:32 |
* Menche |
really thinks the windowed door should use the same textures as it's non-windowed counterpart |
| 06:32 |
Menche |
the windows are coded into the nodebox |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 06:34 |
Menche |
cool, the DM's fireball is textured |
| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
ha, I forgot about that one :D |
| 06:35 |
Menche |
probably from mobf? |
| 06:35 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs :) |
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dmitryk1 |
Hi! |
| 07:58 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 07:58 |
us|0gb |
Hello! |
| 07:58 |
* khonkhortisan |
waits a minute to say good morning |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
hey khonkhortisan. |
| 07:59 |
dmitryk1 |
I need help again. |
| 07:59 |
us|0gb |
khonkhortisan, Pacific Time? |
| 07:59 |
khonkhortisan |
hi |
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khonkhortisan |
yes |
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us|0gb |
Ha ha, me too. |
| 08:00 |
khonkhortisan |
Good morning! |
| 08:00 |
dmitryk1 |
I try to compile and get: Error18error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol __imp__tmpnam src\lua.lib(loslib.obj)minetest |
| 08:00 |
VanessaE |
o.O |
| 08:01 |
dmitryk1 |
and many more with any symbol from lua.lib |
| 08:02 |
VanessaE |
never seen errors like that |
| 08:02 |
VanessaE |
what are you doing to compile it? |
| 08:03 |
reactor |
Hello. I am a computer program. |
| 08:06 |
dmitryk1 |
VanessaE, i make vs project with cMake. And make in it... |
| 08:07 |
VanessaE |
no clue there. I believe someone did warn you that this wasn't really geared toward using VS ... :) |
| 08:07 |
dmitryk1 |
Ok. |
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GNADev|zRokh |
hey to all you beautiful ladies ;P |
| 09:05 |
OldCoder |
Umm |
| 09:05 |
OldCoder |
How is the game coming GNADev|zRokh |
| 09:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
good, found and fixed a bug, added the delete function to the name choosing stuff... |
| 09:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
with backspace people can now delete the whole name >D |
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OldCoder |
All right |
| 09:06 |
OldCoder |
I forget; will this be FOSS? |
| 09:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
but haven't had time to upload the new version yet... |
| 09:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
not exactly... |
| 09:07 |
GNADev|zRokh |
it will be a limited time non-FOSS... :P |
| 09:07 |
OldCoder |
Good luck |
| 09:07 |
OldCoder |
You would do better with a FOSS GitHub repo |
| 09:07 |
GNADev|zRokh |
when the game gets 500 000 buyed copies it will go FOSS |
| 09:07 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 09:07 |
OldCoder |
500,000 you say |
| 09:07 |
OldCoder |
So, next July |
| 09:08 |
GNADev|zRokh |
lol? |
| 09:08 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
| 09:08 |
OldCoder |
Dream big |
| 09:09 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i will :D |
| 09:10 |
GNADev|zRokh |
just like Notch did |
| 09:10 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Notch is one of the guys on my TODO list that i want to see :D |
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GNADev|zRokh |
the other one is Gaben |
| 09:10 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:P |
| 09:10 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i mean the Bucket list |
| 09:10 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
| 09:12 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and another thing that is in the bucket list is to play Minecraft with BajanCanadian and JeromeASF |
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OldCoder |
k |
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hoodedice |
So I was talking... |
| 09:44 |
hoodedice |
*thinking |
| 09:44 |
hoodedice |
(lol) |
| 09:45 |
hoodedice |
Why don't we integrate a torrent client inside the minetest client |
| 09:45 |
hoodedice |
To decrease server overload? |
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hoodedice |
Stupid idea, I guess |
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hoodedice |
=| |
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VanessaE |
hoodedice: cURL + http_fetch will do basically the same thing |
| 10:15 |
VanessaE |
but without the swarming part of course. |
| 10:25 |
hoodedice |
hmm |
| 10:26 |
hoodedice |
Do we have it in the latest? |
| 10:29 |
VanessaE |
cURL, yes, but not the http_fetch code. probably when 0.4.8 comes out, with any luck |
| 10:30 |
hoodedice |
hmm |
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Peacock |
Revelation 8:6 "Now the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to blow them, for 0.4.8 was coming" |
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kaeza |
"freebsd - the best ubuntu!" |
| 10:39 |
Peacock |
agreed XD |
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Peacock |
oh dear, not sure if proller was trolling or for real lol |
| 10:41 |
Peacock |
daaaamn, onpon posted without mentioning 'libre' or 'proprietary', brb, need to go see if the sky is still up |
| 10:42 |
kaeza |
hah |
| 10:42 |
Peacock |
yep, still there, must be a full moon or sometin' lol |
| 10:54 |
Peacock |
damn they're expecting another typhoon in the Philippines :S |
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Peacock |
http://youtu.be/ySRgVo1X_18 |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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Peacock |
!seen everyone |
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MinetestBot |
Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen everyone around. |
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Peacock |
sorry mate, out of luck |
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* Peacock |
enters borg alcove, begins regeneration cycle |
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EmmetCooper |
hey |
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arsdragonfly |
the 1000th PR/issue is on the horizon |
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arsdragonfly |
great milestone isn't it :P |
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EvergreenTree |
o/ hmmmm |
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sfan5 |
chrome now displays which tab is playing music! |
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thexyz |
wow pa is such a dick |
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thexyz |
sfan5: can you provide windows builds for this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033? |
| 13:56 |
sfan5 |
yes |
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thexyz |
hm.. though to think about it |
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thexyz |
maybe someone should make a buildbot or something |
| 13:57 |
sfan5 |
does buildbot mean dedicated server that does it every day or a script? |
| 13:59 |
thexyz |
a combination of those |
| 13:59 |
thexyz |
why every day though? |
| 13:59 |
thexyz |
make it build every commit |
| 13:59 |
sfan5 |
I can give you a build script |
| 14:00 |
thexyz |
i.e. ppsspp does it |
| 14:00 |
thexyz |
that'd be cool |
| 14:00 |
proller |
-next better to build every day, sometimes it needs in fixing conflicts |
| 14:01 |
thexyz |
dunno, I don't see any problem in making a cronjob which fetches latest changes and builds everything |
| 14:06 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: http://ix.io/90l |
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thexyz |
let's see |
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proller |
thexyz, now i make 3-4 commits to solve conflict with #999 |
| 14:09 |
thexyz |
that's fine |
| 14:09 |
proller |
no sense to build 3-4 times |
| 14:09 |
proller |
maybe every [half-]hour |
| 14:09 |
thexyz |
sfan5: libogg-1.2.1-dev.7z ERROR 404: Not Found. |
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sfan5 |
grr |
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sfan5 |
I hate that |
| 14:11 |
sfan5 |
https://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest-libs.7z goes (unpacked) into $libdir |
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thexyz |
it'll try to download it anyway, won't it? |
| 14:12 |
sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
[ -f $libdir/... ] || wget ... |
| 14:12 |
thexyz |
oh, I see |
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thexyz |
(I can't find this in the script you sent to me but I'll trust you on that) |
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thexyz |
also your ssl certificate is invalid |
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proller |
wget --no-check-certificate .... |
| 14:14 |
thexyz |
I know |
| 14:14 |
thexyz |
this is just weird |
| 14:14 |
thexyz |
why use ssl if you don't have a valid certificate? |
| 14:15 |
sfan5 |
oh right |
| 14:15 |
thexyz |
(use as-in give links to other people) |
| 14:15 |
proller |
for hiding data ? |
| 14:16 |
thexyz |
well that makes sense |
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sfan5 |
you also need this in the directory of the script: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/upload/userdata/1/bb.zip |
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thexyz |
why do you use irrlicht 1.7.2? |
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sfan5 |
too lazy to use a newer one |
| 14:18 |
thexyz |
minetestdirname=`unzip -l $packagedir/minetest.zip | head -n 7 | tail -n 1 | sed -e 's/^[^m]*//' -e 's/\/.*$//'` |
| 14:18 |
thexyz |
I fell like some weird magic's going on |
| 14:19 |
sfan5 |
celeron55 wrote that |
| 14:19 |
thexyz |
alright |
| 14:19 |
thexyz |
also consider using https:// when linking to minetest.ru |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix compiling with 32bit MinGW 5094a39f05 2013-11-12T06:18:20-08:00 http://git.io/zZf2mg |
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thexyz |
eh |
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thexyz |
what do we use murmur for? |
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sfan5 |
murmur? what? where? |
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thexyz |
oh, I see |
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thexyz |
to hash string world seed |
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sfan5 |
ah.. |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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sfan5 |
hi rsiska |
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kaeza |
sup rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
nm |
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reactor |
Hello, I am a computer program. |
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AspireMint |
Hi, i am AM |
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reactor |
Why do you say you are AM? |
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AspireMint |
"A"spire "M"int - AM |
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AspireMint |
o.o |
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reactor |
Please go on. |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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Jordach |
hello PilzAdam |
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Jordach |
looks like we both got through the door at the same time ;) |
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PilzAdam |
heh |
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reactor |
Hello Pliz. |
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Jordach |
reactor, ah you're here |
| 16:04 |
reactor |
I am. |
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reactor |
You have something to tell me? |
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Jordach |
see pm |
| 16:04 |
reactor |
I see. |
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kaeza |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Screenshot%20from%202013-11-12%2014%3A21%3A25.png |
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harrison |
,09memehopper |
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Rhy5 |
Ello |
| 16:24 |
kaeza |
yell-o |
| 16:24 |
Rhy5 |
YELL-O |
| 16:24 |
Rhy5 |
Hows life kaeza? :) |
| 16:24 |
kaeza |
making gliders |
| 16:25 |
Rhy5 |
Hmf. Hard job, huh|? |
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Rhy5 |
You know, getting all the materials. |
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kaeza |
they are just 5 pixels :P |
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Rhy5 |
Makes sense. |
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Rhy5 |
What does the wolf say? |
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Rhy5 |
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 16:26 |
Rhy5 |
Makes sense, makes sense. |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
the wolf kills you and fakes seer |
| 16:27 |
Rhy5 |
Very nice. |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
anyway hi Rhy5 :) |
| 16:27 |
Rhy5 |
Lol hi. :) |
| 16:28 |
Rhy5 |
I am actually Rhys, from the Minetest Forums. |
| 16:28 |
Calinou |
I know |
| 16:28 |
Rhy5 |
But, I wasn't able to make a Rhys account on the forums, since I used Rhys on here before. |
| 16:29 |
Rhy5 |
So hows life Calinou? |
| 16:29 |
Calinou |
fine :) |
| 16:29 |
Rhy5 |
You know, finding MESE and Nyan Cats? :3 |
| 16:29 |
Calinou |
never found any in real life :( |
| 16:30 |
Rhy5 |
Mmm... |
| 16:30 |
Rhy5 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUvuZpp4vX8 |
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Rhy5 |
At least someone found Mese in real life. :) |
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* Jordach |
goes outside |
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Jordach |
finds nyan cat |
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* Rhy5 |
steals the Nyan Cat |
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* Rhy5 |
finds a Nyan Cat |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on Jordach's head |
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* dafull97 |
wants to play minetest |
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Jordach |
meow |
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Jordach |
dafull97, vanessa's Survival |
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Jordach |
you can (usually) find me or EvergreenTree playing |
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dafull97 |
im at school =/ so i cant |
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harrison |
can i play |
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harrison |
am i cool enuff |
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Jordach |
with myself* |
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dafull97 |
no harrison =P lol jk |
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dafull97 |
i dont think they will care? |
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reactor |
Hell-o |
| 16:35 |
sfan5 |
Otakux is an Ubuntu-based distribution designed for "Otaku", a Japanese term used to refer to people with obsessive interests in anime, manga and video games. |
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sfan5 |
wat |
| 16:36 |
reactor |
Ha. |
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reactor |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
reactor: MESE in Real Life! - YouTube |
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reactor |
?! |
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Rhy5 |
MinetestBot? |
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thexyz |
oh I've found it |
| 16:37 |
reactor |
MinetestBot: not descriptive enough. |
| 16:37 |
Rhy5 |
Uh... |
| 16:37 |
thexyz |
http://aloonix.neocities.org/ |
| 16:37 |
Rhy5 |
Is this really a Bot? |
| 16:37 |
reactor |
I aren't. |
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dafull97 |
after i return from lunch i will like to discuss a topic with all |
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dafull97 |
about a server that i want to make |
| 16:37 |
reactor |
dafull97: bon appetite |
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reactor |
s/a/the/ |
| 16:38 |
dafull97 |
what is that reactor/? |
| 16:38 |
reactor |
?! |
| 16:38 |
reactor |
What is what? |
| 16:38 |
dafull97 |
bon appetite? |
| 16:38 |
reactor |
Before I tell you, I should wonder. What is your native language? |
| 16:38 |
dafull97 |
English |
| 16:38 |
Calinou |
bon appétit |
| 16:39 |
reactor |
How don't you know that, dafull97? |
| 16:39 |
dafull97 |
i dont know? sounds like a different language to me |
| 16:39 |
reactor |
It's borrowed from French. They say it before meal. |
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kaeza |
Bon appétit... Oh, Mexican food! My favorite. |
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dafull97 |
ohh, i havnt hardly ever heard that |
| 16:40 |
reactor |
You're strange. |
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dafull97 |
who? =P |
| 16:40 |
reactor |
Also. I was mistaken. It's spelled "appetit". |
| 16:41 |
dafull97 |
lunch time =D ttyla |
| 16:41 |
reactor |
dafull97: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bon_app%C3%A9tit |
| 16:42 |
reactor |
I really doubt your native language is English. |
| 16:42 |
reactor |
You're hiding something from me. |
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Rhy5 |
Mmm... |
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Rhy5 |
I think he's been drinking too much of ray8888's wine. |
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sfan5 |
GIMP needs 2 mins to realize my clipboard does not contain anything useful.. WTF |
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reactor |
GIMP is fat. |
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reactor |
But unfortunately, there is no alternative to it. |
| 16:45 |
sfan5 |
fat32 or fat16? |
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kaeza |
:D |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
vfat! |
| 16:47 |
sfan5 |
proprietary D: |
| 16:47 |
reactor |
FAT is a bad filesystem. |
| 16:47 |
harrison |
i am on VanessaE's creative server and just turned on all the graphics settings |
| 16:47 |
harrison |
which i had never seen before |
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harrison |
& it is night so i can't see much |
| 16:47 |
harrison |
but it is very pretty now |
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harrison |
now i am going to look at the survival server |
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Ritchie_ |
hello, I want to ask- is minetest multithreaded? |
| 17:02 |
proller |
1.5 threaded |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
mapgen can be set to use several threads, it can cause issues with caves though |
| 17:11 |
Ritchie_ |
Calinou: yes, I noticed it in minetest.conf, but I didn't know if minetestserver is multithreaded |
| 17:12 |
Ritchie_ |
maybe there is difference between minetestserver and client, so I would like to know situation in minetestserver |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
the server and client themselves are not :P |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
only map generation, which is in the server |
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Calinou |
so some part of server is multithreaded |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
but it is quite fast usually |
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dafull97 |
reactor, what is your native language? |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
and the multithreading only affects C++ map gen, not lua |
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dafull97 |
reactor here? |
| 17:15 |
reactor |
dafull97: it's not English. |
| 17:16 |
dafull97 |
ok, do you know anyone that knows english? |
| 17:16 |
reactor |
But I know English well, I think. |
| 17:16 |
reactor |
Define "know". |
| 17:16 |
dafull97 |
such as live in america, and use it everyday for communication/ |
| 17:16 |
reactor |
Someone who speaks English would rather say "anyone who know English". |
| 17:17 |
reactor |
s/know/knows/ |
| 17:18 |
dafull97 |
no, just ask anyone that lives in america and ask them how often "bon appétit" is used in america |
| 17:18 |
dafull97 |
and it would be "anyone that knows english" ^^ |
| 17:18 |
reactor |
Oh, so you're not English. |
| 17:19 |
dafull97 |
yes i am |
| 17:19 |
dafull97 |
-_- |
| 17:19 |
reactor |
You're American. |
| 17:19 |
dafull97 |
yes, sorry haha |
| 17:19 |
dafull97 |
USA Citizen |
| 17:19 |
reactor |
I see. |
| 17:19 |
reactor |
You want to talk about that? |
| 17:20 |
dafull97 |
Not really, i just was going to talk about clustering raspberry pi's |
| 17:20 |
dafull97 |
for a server |
| 17:20 |
dafull97 |
as you see it isnt supported in Minetest |
| 17:20 |
dafull97 |
but in Minecraft =/ |
| 17:20 |
reactor |
Clustering raspberry pi's. Get a life. |
| 17:21 |
dafull97 |
Seriously? |
| 17:21 |
reactor |
If you want a cluster, R Pi is not a good choice. |
| 17:21 |
reactor |
It's a low-performance machine. |
| 17:21 |
dafull97 |
explain please and i realize that |
| 17:21 |
reactor |
It's fine as a desktop or a small data server, but NOT as data procesor. |
| 17:21 |
reactor |
So clustering them for data processing is not good. |
| 17:22 |
reactor |
And I haven't heard of clustering being of any use in servers. |
| 17:23 |
Ritchie_ |
ok, Calinou and proller thank you for info :) |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
np :) |
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dafull97 |
ok, what would be a good for that data process? |
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proller |
dafull97, can you try https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033 on pi? |
| 17:25 |
dafull97 |
i was also thinking beagle bone black... |
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dafull97 |
proller, what exactly is that? =/ multithread available? |
| 17:26 |
proller |
no lags available |
| 17:26 |
proller |
i think pi can handle 10-20 players |
| 17:27 |
reactor |
Oh, so you don't want to process data? |
| 17:27 |
reactor |
Why cluster then? |
| 17:27 |
reactor |
You could just use them as separate machines. |
| 17:27 |
dafull97 |
reactor, i am wanting to host a server, such as Minetest or Minecraft |
| 17:27 |
reactor |
Yes. |
| 17:27 |
reactor |
Why a cluster? |
| 17:28 |
dafull97 |
shares RAM correct? |
| 17:28 |
dafull97 |
proller, no lags? meaning? |
| 17:29 |
reactor |
dafull97: hell. |
| 17:29 |
reactor |
cluster != shared memory system |
| 17:31 |
dafull97 |
reactor, a cluster integrates the resources of two or more computing devices (that could otherwise function separately) together for some common purpose. |
| 17:31 |
dafull97 |
http://compnetworking.about.com/od/itinformationtechnology/l/bldef_cluster.htm |
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Menche |
i think that each node in the cluster has it's own separately functioning OS though |
| 17:32 |
reactor |
dafull97: you can't physically share memory. |
| 17:32 |
reactor |
dafull97: need a layer of abstraction for that. |
| 17:32 |
reactor |
And I doubt memory sharing over ethernet would be fast enough. |
| 17:32 |
pitriss |
reactor: +1 |
| 17:33 |
reactor |
Menche: such a network doesn't usually fall into definition of cluster. |
| 17:33 |
Menche |
ah ok |
| 17:33 |
reactor |
...unless they all run a program that lets them share processing jobs. |
| 17:33 |
dafull97 |
so meaning - that it isnt worth it and wouldnt boost performance? |
| 17:33 |
reactor |
It's not worth it. |
| 17:34 |
Menche |
i think it requires specially written software |
| 17:34 |
reactor |
s/h it/h/ |
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* Menche |
thought this was discussed before |
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* dafull97 |
Agrees with Menche - although it wasnt explained this well |
| 17:36 |
dafull97 |
now, one last question |
| 17:36 |
Menche |
could try zram if you really need more space |
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| 17:37 |
dafull97 |
if i had raspberry pi, would it be able to play minetest and minecraft? |
| 17:37 |
reactor |
Zram is only available on Linux. |
| 17:37 |
reactor |
dafull97: Not sure. |
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| 17:38 |
dafull97 |
zram will use disk space as ram? |
| 17:38 |
Menche |
no |
| 17:38 |
EvergreenTree |
dafull97, Not sure about minetest, there is minecraft pi though |
| 17:38 |
Menche |
it's a compressed swap space in RAM |
| 17:38 |
EvergreenTree |
minecraft pi is no where near the full version though |
| 17:38 |
dafull97 |
ok thanks all |
| 17:38 |
Menche |
it's slightly slower than plain RAM, but still much faster than the disk |
| 17:38 |
EvergreenTree |
Expect the full minecraft game to run at 1 fps though |
| 17:38 |
Menche |
if you really need the space it may be worth it |
| 17:39 |
Menche |
but people have been running minetest on the pi comfortably apparently |
| 17:40 |
dafull97 |
ok, this is really the last question |
| 17:40 |
dafull97 |
=D |
| 17:41 |
dafull97 |
between the raspberry pi and beagle bone black, what could each server run with minetest and minecraft? - meaning what is the max players that they could support both minetest and minecraft? |
| 17:42 |
Menche |
that's probably difficult to answer |
| 17:42 |
dafull97 |
how so? |
| 17:42 |
Menche |
most accurate way to find that out would be to try it |
| 17:42 |
dafull97 |
ok... thx anyway |
| 17:42 |
dafull97 |
=) |
| 17:42 |
Menche |
and it would vary depending on how active the players are, how close to each other they are, what mods are running, etc. |
| 17:43 |
dafull97 |
oh, so yea preety difficult |
| 17:43 |
dafull97 |
haha |
| 17:43 |
Ritchie_ |
How much effort is needed to make minetestserver multithreaded? Is this planned? |
| 17:43 |
reactor |
Should estimate for the worst case. |
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| 17:43 |
Menche |
if the beaglebone is more powerful than the pi, you could naturally expect it to handle more. that's as much as you can really predict though. |
| 17:44 |
dafull97 |
if i get a new computer i may dedicate one to minetest or minecraft, not sure |
| 17:44 |
Menche |
can't the minetestserver use multiple threads for map generation and loading? |
| 17:44 |
Menche |
there's a setting for emergethreads |
| 17:45 |
dafull97 |
really? so i could cluter them for that? |
| 17:45 |
reactor |
I have another q. How can one speed up map loading? |
| 17:45 |
Menche |
emergethreads? |
| 17:46 |
reactor |
I thought the option only affected map generation. |
| 17:46 |
Menche |
higher max_block_send_server_total and max_block_send_per_client values? |
| 17:46 |
Menche |
and max_block_send_range |
| 17:47 |
reactor |
Oh. |
| 17:47 |
Ritchie_ |
Menche: yes, mapgen can be multithreaded, in minetest.conf is something for it but it does buggy caves |
| 17:48 |
dafull97 |
i am getting a raspberry pi, i may dedicate it to minetest to get better optimized servers |
| 17:48 |
dafull97 |
so it isnt as heavy of a load |
| 17:49 |
Ritchie_ |
but I would like to have minetestserver itself multithreaded because for example mesecons or moving water can do high cpu load |
| 17:49 |
reactor |
max_block_send_distance = 300 |
| 17:49 |
reactor |
Is that okay? |
| 17:50 |
Menche |
i have it set to 3 :P |
| 17:50 |
Ritchie_ |
all newer computers have multi core cpu, some servers also have several cpus |
| 17:50 |
Menche |
block = 16x16x16 nodes |
| 17:50 |
dafull97 |
Ritchie_, i agree... |
| 17:50 |
dafull97 |
on the multithread |
| 17:50 |
* Menche |
's old Pentium 4 server doesn't :( |
| 17:51 |
Ritchie_ |
Pentium 4 has Hyper Threading |
| 17:51 |
Ritchie_ |
Pentium 3 doesn't :P |
| 17:51 |
proller |
now max_block_send_distance limited by ~10 |
| 17:51 |
reactor |
Why? |
| 17:51 |
dafull97 |
proller what is that link ealier? |
| 17:51 |
proller |
because. |
| 17:51 |
reactor |
10 is way too little |
| 17:52 |
reactor |
can't see anything that way |
| 17:52 |
dafull97 |
proller, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033 |
| 17:52 |
Menche |
that's 160 individual cubes |
| 17:52 |
dafull97 |
is this a different enigne? |
| 17:52 |
dafull97 |
engine* |
| 17:52 |
proller |
patched for speeeeeed |
| 17:52 |
dafull97 |
ok nice... |
| 17:52 |
reactor |
proller: ? |
| 17:52 |
dafull97 |
light load im assuming? |
| 17:53 |
proller |
on last test we have 130+ clients in one server |
| 17:53 |
dafull97 |
proller, wow nice! |
| 17:53 |
dafull97 |
how much could a raspberry pi handle in worst conditions? |
| 17:53 |
proller |
30 on my odroid is ok |
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| 17:53 |
proller |
10-20 |
| 17:53 |
dafull97 |
nice |
| 17:54 |
dafull97 |
and beagle bone Black? |
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Jordach |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1000 |
| 17:59 |
dafull97 |
and beagle bone Black? <-- proller |
| 18:00 |
proller |
wat? |
| 18:00 |
dafull97 |
how many could it support prob? |
| 18:00 |
proller |
dont know |
| 18:00 |
dafull97 |
ok thx |
| 18:00 |
thexyz |
it deserves the get |
| 18:01 |
Menche |
who owns one of and hosts a server from every single single-board computer ever made?? |
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| 18:03 |
proller |
i have openmoko, it slower than pi in 50 times, i can try to run server.. but hours for compiling... |
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dafull97 |
wow, that sucks |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
yay |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
auto login with xfce4 works |
| 18:05 |
dafull97 |
im thinking raspberry pi's for minetest and my old computer(soon) with minecraft |
| 18:05 |
thexyz |
proller: why hours? can't you cross compile? |
| 18:07 |
proller |
learning how to cross-compile take hours too ;) |
| 18:09 |
dafull97 |
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mybitbox.com%2F2013%2F03%2Farm-cross-compiling-in-5-minutes%2F&ei=tm6CUuWlJoiGkQeiqoHQAg&usg=AFQjCNECMZBTXPGbqRpmYe76647SouiIcQ&sig2=ONDFnXFVLDkUAqmOzv7AWA&bvm=bv.56146854,d.eW0 |
| 18:09 |
dafull97 |
go there ^ |
| 18:09 |
dafull97 |
prolelr |
| 18:09 |
dafull97 |
proller* |
| 18:09 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Screenshot%20from%202013-11-12%2016%3A08%3A39.png |
| 18:09 |
* Menche |
wonders why you use a google link redirecting to another site |
| 18:09 |
Menche |
http://www.mybitbox.com/2013/03/arm-cross-compiling-in-5-minutes/ |
| 18:10 |
rubenwardy |
nice |
| 18:10 |
proller |
dafull97, what about all needed libs? |
| 18:10 |
Menche |
^^ same link |
| 18:10 |
* dafull97 |
used right click copy link address |
| 18:10 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, dont use google |
| 18:10 |
Menche |
a.k.a. you didn't actually look at the site |
| 18:10 |
dafull97 |
Menche, exactly haha |
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| 18:11 |
Menche |
https://duckduckgo.com/ > google |
| 18:11 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam what is wrong with google? |
| 18:11 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, https://ixquick.com/eng/protect-privacy.html |
| 18:12 |
dafull97 |
ah, i c |
| 18:12 |
dafull97 |
i was unaware |
| 18:12 |
Menche |
http://donttrack.us/ |
| 18:12 |
rubenwardy |
They are just paranoid |
| 18:13 |
rubenwardy |
I dont care if I get better ad recommendations: I block them anyway |
| 18:13 |
dafull97 |
Menche, as i seen when i search programming it comes up in ads |
| 18:13 |
dafull97 |
like schools |
| 18:13 |
dafull97 |
webhost and more |
| 18:13 |
dafull97 |
=/ |
| 18:13 |
Menche |
http://dontbubble.us/ |
| 18:14 |
Menche |
plus ddg has useful 0-click info boxes |
| 18:15 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, its not about ads only, read http://donttrack.us/ |
| 18:15 |
dafull97 |
yea, that is weird |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
So? I dont do anything on google I would not mind people watching |
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| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
There are bigger fish to catch |
| 18:16 |
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| 18:16 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
| 18:16 |
dafull97 |
hey MegaF |
| 18:16 |
Megaf |
Have you seen Gronx here lately? |
| 18:16 |
dafull97 |
what happend to your rpi server? |
| 18:17 |
rubenwardy |
Well, apart from piracy |
| 18:17 |
Megaf |
dafull97, nothing, it still running, but I pointed to URL to another place and totally forgot about my rpi |
| 18:18 |
Megaf |
dafull97, I will fix that when I got home |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, it filters the search results to only show things that you like |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, read http://dontbubble.us/ |
| 18:18 |
Megaf |
PilzAdam, Hi there, how are you? |
| 18:18 |
dafull97 |
Megaf, ok =D |
| 18:19 |
Megaf |
dafull97, that server is pretty impressive, no crash yet |
| 18:19 |
proller |
Megaf, can you try -next branch on pi? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033 |
| 18:19 |
dafull97 |
nice |
| 18:19 |
dafull97 |
yes Megaf please do |
| 18:19 |
dafull97 |
test performance for me i would like to get that |
| 18:19 |
dafull97 |
=) |
| 18:20 |
Menche |
hammer it with 130 bot clients :) |
| 18:21 |
Megaf |
proller, forum still loading here, im on 3G connection, but I used it too much, so now my speed is quite reduced |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
hm |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
I might try minetest on my pi |
| 18:22 |
* Menche |
wonders if it would be worth trying minetest on his Atom netbook again |
| 18:23 |
Megaf |
I was writing to porllerright now |
| 18:23 |
Megaf |
bummer |
| 18:23 |
rubenwardy |
I might use another search engine, but I will not stop using Google all together; it is too useful |
| 18:23 |
Megaf |
Menche, I speaking from an Asus EeePC 701, it has an Intel Celeron at 630 Mhz |
| 18:23 |
Megaf |
Menche, with a gig of Ram only |
| 18:24 |
Megaf |
later on I will get the latest source code and compile it here to give it a go |
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Jordach |
kaeza, boop |
| 18:26 |
Megaf |
sfan5, why not? It's fun anyway |
| 18:26 |
kaeza |
Jordach, boob* |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
kaeza, using mint 15 with XFCE |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
Menche: less than 20 FPS average here // |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
:/ |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
playable if you don't want to go fast |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
poor Calinou |
| 18:30 |
Calinou |
rich Calinou |
| 18:30 |
* Jordach |
looks for Mint's package manager |
| 18:31 |
Menche |
apt-get :P |
| 18:31 |
Megaf |
Calinou, do you run minetest on Windows? |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
haven't done that since 0.4.3 |
| 18:32 |
* Jordach |
removes google chrome from Mint |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
profile keeps corrupting :( |
| 18:33 |
Megaf |
I find very interesting the fact that none of you play on my server. I really find that interesting =) |
| 18:33 |
Megaf |
Jordach, I'm using the Midori Browser here |
| 18:33 |
Megaf |
a webkit browser too |
| 18:34 |
Megaf |
pretty nice and lightweight |
| 18:34 |
Menche |
doesn't chrome have it's own rendering engine now? |
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| 18:34 |
Megaf |
quiet that |
| 18:34 |
Megaf |
Blink it is |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
sudo apt-get install chromium-browser |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
Megaf: not used yet? |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
or it's just a tiny fork of webkit |
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| 18:40 |
Megaf |
Calinou, Chrome and Opera are already using Blink for a couple of release already |
| 18:40 |
Megaf |
and it is a for of WebKit, yes |
| 18:40 |
Megaf |
It's supposed to be more lightweight |
| 18:43 |
Megaf |
Calinou, what CPU and GPU does your computer have? |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
desktop: 2600K + 570 |
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| 18:45 |
thexyz |
haha |
| 18:45 |
thexyz |
time for daily dose of hate towards CSS |
| 18:46 |
thexyz |
I'm not really good at swearing in English so please someone support me |
| 18:47 |
thexyz |
but I guess our world doesn't deserve a proper markup language |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
where you can layout things like you want; where you don't fuck with position:relative/absolute, float, clear to only figure later that this stuff isn't supposed to work |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
oh hey there's a #css room |
| 18:49 |
Megaf |
I know nothing about CSS |
| 18:49 |
Megaf |
I once edited some for my old phpbb forum |
| 18:49 |
Megaf |
And I found that quite non sense |
| 18:49 |
Megaf |
no sense |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 18:50 |
Megaf |
Hi VanessaE |
| 18:50 |
Megaf |
Hows things? |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
eh, things are okay |
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| 18:51 |
Megaf |
folks, can you please explain to me whats the indev mapgen how it differs from the v6 one? |
| 18:51 |
thexyz |
no, not even going to try |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: indev is where a lot of new stuff is worked on. in short, it's guaranteed to break, over the long term. |
| 18:52 |
Megaf |
VanessaE, but, is it a normal world? |
| 18:52 |
Menche |
indev is basically v6 with some new features like floatlands |
| 18:52 |
Menche |
most recommend it over v6 |
| 18:53 |
Megaf |
I mean, math is not, v7 seems like stones only |
| 18:53 |
Megaf |
hm |
| 18:53 |
Menche |
v7 requires lua biome definitions |
| 18:53 |
Megaf |
ok, now I see |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: v7 depends on external Lua code to ...what menche said |
| 18:53 |
Menche |
which the core devs refuse to add *cough cough* |
| 18:54 |
Menche |
"oh, we're still working on it, can't make it usable yet" |
| 18:54 |
Megaf |
Thanks Menche and VanessaE |
| 18:55 |
Megaf |
Now I understand why there is not floating islands on my server |
| 18:55 |
Megaf |
there are* |
| 18:55 |
PilzAdam |
<Menche> "oh, we're still working on it, can't make it usable yet" <- exactly |
| 18:55 |
Menche |
i understand they're extremely rare or high |
| 18:56 |
Menche |
PilzAdam, why is it in the mapgen selection menu then? |
| 18:56 |
VanessaE |
Menche: because, sapier :P |
| 18:56 |
Menche |
it's done enough to be selectable but not done enough to be made functional? |
| 18:56 |
Menche |
so you have a non-functional mapgen in the menu |
| 18:57 |
Menche |
"here's a fancy new mapgen you can use but we're gonna say we're not done with it yet and intentionally keep in unfinished" |
| 18:58 |
Megaf |
sfan5, PilzAdam, is Minetest Open Source or not? |
| 18:58 |
sfan5 |
yes :P |
| 18:59 |
Megaf |
I see a lot of "copyright" stuff on forums and mods |
| 18:59 |
Menche |
copyright != closed licence |
| 18:59 |
Calinou |
it is |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
LGPL for code, CC BY-SA strictest for art |
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| 19:01 |
Megaf |
ok, I feel better now |
| 19:01 |
Megaf |
:P |
| 19:02 |
Menche |
it'll have copyright unless it's a public domain pseudo-licence like CC0 |
| 19:02 |
Megaf |
I have a new project now, and I expect to make some money with this projects and support minetest too |
| 19:02 |
rubenwardy |
WTFPL, you mean! |
| 19:03 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 19:03 |
Menche |
WTFPL looks... unprofessional |
| 19:03 |
Menche |
CC0 is more verbose |
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| 19:06 |
Jordach |
aw |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
calinou has gone |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
:( |
| 19:09 |
rubenwardy |
WTFPL is more free!! |
| 19:09 |
Menche |
how? |
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rubenwardy |
Ask PilzAdam |
| 19:12 |
Megaf |
Hi proller |
| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
because you can do what the fuck you want to |
| 19:13 |
Megaf |
welcome back |
| 19:13 |
Megaf |
proller, I will give it a try yes |
| 19:13 |
Menche |
how's it more free than CC0? |
| 19:13 |
Megaf |
it seems good |
| 19:14 |
proller |
better? |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
OH HELL NO |
| 19:14 |
* Jordach |
reads #blender backlog |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
[19:04:47] <-- Calinou (~Calinou unaffiliated/calinou) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 19:15 |
Megaf |
O don't get it |
| 19:15 |
Megaf |
I* |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
Quiet down, children |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
What is your new project, Megaf? |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, tell that to Dan_D :> |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
!seen LandMine |
| 19:16 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Sorry, I haven't seen landmine around. |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
Thank god |
| 19:17 |
Menche |
not that he always uses that exact username |
| 19:17 |
* Jordach |
can summon the demon |
| 19:18 |
Megaf |
one of my favorite licenses is the Beeware |
| 19:19 |
Megaf |
!seen Gronx |
| 19:19 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: gronx was last seen at 2013-11-12 00:56:43 UTC on #minetest |
| 19:20 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy, making money having fun =) |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
swag |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
swag |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
!rainbow swag |
| 19:21 |
MinetestBot |
3s4wag |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
Turns out you can not copy and paste colors |
| 19:21 |
Megaf |
!rainbow Megaf |
| 19:21 |
MinetestBot |
5M8e4g8af |
| 19:21 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, depends on your client |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
huh |
| 19:21 |
Megaf |
2MK4E7GK1AK9F |
| 19:22 |
Megaf |
2M4E7G1A9F |
| 19:22 |
Megaf |
2M4E7G1A9F |
| 19:22 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy, ctrl + k + number to color |
| 19:22 |
rubenwardy |
2I am now going to write everything in this color to stand out |
| 19:22 |
Megaf |
ctrl + b to bold |
| 19:22 |
rubenwardy |
2I know |
| 19:23 |
Megaf |
8There you are |
| 19:23 |
rubenwardy |
I cant be bothered to do that all the time |
| 19:24 |
MinetestBot |
I3 7l2ik8e ca7k6e |
| 19:24 |
Megaf |
MinetestBot, do you? |
| 19:24 |
rubenwardy |
Every so often MinetestBot starts having a mind of his own |
| 19:26 |
Megaf |
heh |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
<3 MinetestBot |
| 19:26 |
MinetestBot |
4<​32 3J5or3da7c8h |
| 19:26 |
Megaf |
Ok folks, time to go home! |
| 19:26 |
Megaf |
enough of work (job) for today |
| 19:26 |
Megaf |
cya |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
Sokomine, travelnet boxes have a bug: they print the travel destination twice |
| 19:28 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Perhaps put the 04<3 in bold red rather than just using a rainbow? |
| 19:28 |
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| 19:30 |
Sokomine |
oh? are you sure? |
| 19:30 |
* Sokomine |
shots megaf for playing with color |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
Sokomine, ve-survival has the bug |
| 19:34 |
thexyz |
it's 2013, guys |
| 19:34 |
* Jordach |
enters depression mode |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
GIMP 2.8 |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
hell no. |
| 19:35 |
thexyz |
4⤠|
| 19:35 |
Menche |
? |
| 19:35 |
thexyz |
4⥠|
| 19:36 |
thexyz |
😠|
| 19:36 |
thexyz |
use unicode |
| 19:38 |
Jordach |
fuck unicode |
| 19:40 |
rubenwardy |
How do I get the real item string from aliases? |
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| 19:40 |
Fadi |
Hello I have a question |
| 19:40 |
Menche |
♞ |
| 19:40 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, ItemString("alias"):get_name() IIRC |
| 19:40 |
Menche |
✂ |
| 19:40 |
Fadi |
So I'm a C#, VB.Net developer and a web developer how is it to get into this game'sm odding with my experience |
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| 19:41 |
Jordach |
!pil Fadi |
| 19:41 |
MinetestBot |
Fadi, someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Lua, please go to: http://lua.org/pil/ |
| 19:41 |
sfan5 |
ra |
| 19:41 |
sfan5 |
Jordach pls |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
!dev Intro |
| 19:41 |
MinetestBot |
"Minetest has a scripting API (Application Programming Interface), which is used to program mods (short for 'modifications') for the game, extending its features and adding new items." - http://dev.minetest.net/Intro |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
^ Fadi |
| 19:41 |
Fadi |
Oh* |
| 19:41 |
Fadi |
thank you |
| 19:41 |
Fadi |
oh that looks quite easy |
| 19:42 |
sfan5 |
yes, Lua is quite easy |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
what does group:dye,basecolor_red mean? |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
does it mean (dye && basecolor_red) |
| 19:43 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
ok |
| 19:43 |
Fadi |
So my game is set to French language |
| 19:43 |
Fadi |
how do I change that |
| 19:43 |
PilzAdam |
Fadi, that depends on your OS |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
it's determined by system language |
| 19:43 |
Fadi |
oh dang it |
| 19:44 |
PilzAdam |
what OS do you use? |
| 19:44 |
Fadi |
Windblows 7 |
| 19:44 |
PilzAdam |
remove the locale/fr/ folder then |
| 19:44 |
PilzAdam |
</workaround> |
| 19:44 |
Menche |
or build it without gettext |
| 19:45 |
Fadi |
wouldn't that like change the main language |
| 19:45 |
Fadi |
not of the game |
| 19:45 |
Fadi |
but of my interface and stuff |
| 19:45 |
PilzAdam |
Fadi, no, delete it inside the Minetest folder |
| 19:45 |
PilzAdam |
it will only affect Minetest |
| 19:45 |
Fadi |
Oh |
| 19:47 |
Fadi |
From the installation I saw that there was some sort of a dev "client" strictly for mod development, where can I find thaT? |
| 19:47 |
Fadi |
that* |
| 19:47 |
PilzAdam |
what? |
| 19:47 |
Menche |
? |
| 19:47 |
Menche |
don't think so |
| 19:47 |
Jordach |
Fadi, the developer builds are from the latest source code |
| 19:48 |
Jordach |
eg - not stable |
| 19:48 |
Menche |
rather than the rather old stable code |
| 19:48 |
Fadi |
aha |
| 19:48 |
Fadi |
thanks |
| 19:48 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt affect mod development, though (when you dont want to use the latest functions) |
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| 19:54 |
Menche |
i'm trying to make lava sources cool into minerals with different chances |
| 19:54 |
Menche |
is there a better way than this: http://lpaste.net/95575 |
| 19:55 |
Menche |
i'm asking here because #minetest-classic is as dead as c++ mobs in 0.4 |
| 19:56 |
* rubenwardy |
is now 9th! https://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?username=&show_group=-1&sort_by=num_posts&sort_dir=DESC&search=Search |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
woo |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
Menche, lol |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
finally installing 2.6.12 as my gimp version |
| 19:57 |
Menche |
isn't 2.8.something the latest? |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, 65 |
| 19:59 |
Menche |
gimp 2.8 has single-window mode and more sensible exporting |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/gn0LCcT.png success |
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PilzAdam |
why the /query PilzAdam ? |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
call me old fashioned, but 2.6 works because of ctrl + shift + s = save as |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
ctrl + e != save as |
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Menche |
right, it's export, not save as |
| 20:05 |
Menche |
flat images aren't what gimp does; it does images with layers and masks and things |
| 20:05 |
Menche |
it has to [e]xport to save as a flat image |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
which is bullshit |
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kaeza |
^ |
| 20:07 |
Menche |
No. |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
photoshop supports ctrl + shift + s |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
except i came off better by pirating it - fuck creative cloud :D |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
...and my passwords are safe for now >:) |
| 20:08 |
Menche |
...E is right next to S |
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Jordach |
Menche, it's bullshit |
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Jordach |
it also broke my workflow |
| 20:10 |
Menche |
no. |
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* Menche |
survived |
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kaeza |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
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Megaf |
hi folks |
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OldCoder |
<kaeza> http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 20:20 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
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Jordach |
there we go |
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* Jordach |
is now using firefox sync |
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thexyz |
seriously? not updating gimp because of export? |
| 20:23 |
Menche |
single-window mode was enough for me to update |
| 20:24 |
thexyz |
yes! yes! |
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Jordach |
some people (like me) use gimp for pixel art |
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* Menche |
too |
| 20:25 |
thexyz |
it was the most weird thing in gimp |
| 20:25 |
thexyz |
Jordach: yes, and? |
| 20:25 |
* Menche |
still doesn't mind export |
| 20:25 |
thexyz |
just use another key combination |
| 20:25 |
thexyz |
or remap it |
| 20:26 |
Megaf |
is there a way to speed up /clearobjects? |
| 20:26 |
Megaf |
that really takes long here |
| 20:28 |
thexyz |
probably not |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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Megaf |
!seen Gronx |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: gronx was last seen at 2013-11-12 00:56:43 UTC on #minetest |
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jin_xi |
hello |
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kaeza |
hi |
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Fadi |
I'm quite new to the modding api and lua, can I ask a very basic question? |
| 21:41 |
Miner_48er |
yes |
| 21:41 |
Fadi |
How do I make my block's name appear in the inventory gui |
| 21:42 |
Menche |
set the description="" field in the node definition |
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Fadi |
description = {"something"}, ? or just description="something" |
| 21:43 |
Menche |
just a string, not a table |
| 21:43 |
Fadi |
oh ye I just tested it |
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Fadi |
thanks |
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ungali |
?exit |
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Megaf |
folks, I got the latest master from github |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
and no one seems to be able to interact |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
is that a know bug? |
| 22:39 |
kaeza |
maybe obvious; do they have interact priv? |
| 22:39 |
Megaf |
theres some new privs, basic_privs and griefing |
| 22:40 |
Megaf |
the heck is that? |
| 22:40 |
Megaf |
kaeza, of course |
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kaeza |
IP:port ? |
| 22:41 |
Megaf |
kaeza, megaf.co.vu 30003 |
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kaeza |
hmm |
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kaeza |
Megaf, did you also update minetest_game ? |
| 22:49 |
Megaf |
kaeza, it seem like we need the griefing priv now, to interact |
| 22:49 |
Megaf |
and yes, I also updated the minetest_game |
| 22:50 |
kaeza |
that is new... |
| 22:54 |
kaeza |
Megaf, where does the "griefing" priv come from? |
| 22:55 |
Megaf |
kaeza, no idea, Im, as a server admin, just have it |
| 22:55 |
Megaf |
I did /privs and I have that new priv |
| 22:55 |
khonkhortisan |
it is some new mod |
| 22:55 |
Megaf |
I think I will get the old minetest_game |
| 22:56 |
khonkhortisan |
it remembers the ownership of nodes or area and doesn't let people change it without permissions |
| 22:57 |
Megaf |
I think I know whats causing that |
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Megaf |
kaeza, can you login again please? (all area from 100,-20,100 to -100,200,-100 is protected |
| 23:01 |
kaeza |
coming |
| 23:09 |
Megaf |
thanks kaeza |
| 23:09 |
Megaf |
khonkhortisan, your comment here did it :) |
| 23:09 |
Megaf |
khonkhortisan, it was the node_ownership mod |
| 23:09 |
Megaf |
a new version that I compile that was messing things up |
| 23:10 |
kaeza |
glad to be of help |
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kaeza |
although this time I did nothing :P |
| 23:11 |
Megaf |
you did a lot actually |
| 23:12 |
Megaf |
if it wasnt you I could not have fixed the problem that quick |
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Hunterx689 |
Ho |
| 23:17 |
Hunterx689 |
Hi |
| 23:17 |
Hunterx689 |
Hi |
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Hunterx689 |
Hola |
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Hunterx689 |
Kaeza |
| 23:20 |
kaeza |
? |
| 23:20 |
Hunterx689 |
Im in the net? |
| 23:21 |
Hunterx689 |
Someone in shadow server? |
| 23:21 |
kaeza |
Hunterx689, wrong network :P |
| 23:23 |
ShadowNinja |
Heh. |
| 23:24 |
ShadowNinja |
Nope, we just had all our servers go down and 80 users join while you were gone. ;-P |
| 23:24 |
kaeza |
hah |
| 23:25 |
Hunterx689 |
Wtf! |
| 23:25 |
Hunterx689 |
Im on android |
| 23:26 |
Hunterx689 |
:) |
| 23:26 |
ShadowNinja |
Hunterx689: You joined #minetestfreenode instead of #minetestInchraNet I beleive. |
| 23:26 |
* kaeza |
read that as "I'm an android" |
| 23:27 |
Hunterx689 |
No im in the android os |
| 23:28 |
Hunterx689 |
Is the Compu channel that i found |
| 23:29 |
Hunterx689 |
Only |
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SegFault22 |
So about that horrible hackwork... |
