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00:14 diemartin Taoki, *poke*
00:14 VanessaE <Taoki> ow.
00:14 VanessaE ;)
00:16 Taoki diemartin: hi
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00:54 VanessaE ok, how was it that I enable jungles again?
00:55 iqualfragile VanessaE: add jungles magpen flag or smth
00:55 VanessaE I know it's a mapgen flag but damned if I know what flag, or where it's documented at.
00:56 VanessaE here it is.
00:56 VanessaE v6_jungles
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02:30 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAmcCvECucM
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02:43 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Merge pull request #32 from ShadowNinja/admin-only-lua https://gi 2014-01-21T18:42:16-08:00 http://git.io/x5N6Ag
02:43 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Make /lua and /luatransform administrator-only https://gi 2014-01-21T08:14:24-08:00 http://git.io/hSd4fg
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02:48 fwilson is there a way to "sprint" i.e. fast without freemove?
02:49 diemartin fwilson, nope :/
02:49 fwilson :\ darnit
02:49 diemartin actually, yes
02:49 fwilson :O
02:49 diemartin misread that
02:49 fwilson tellmetellmetellme
02:50 diemartin you can run without free move
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02:50 fwilson diemartin: how do i run :\
02:50 diemartin hold E
02:50 fwilson oh neat
02:50 fwilson thanks
02:51 ShadowNinja ~enable roulette
02:51 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: That command wasn't disabled.
02:51 fwilson also, is there a mod that you know of that limits the fast speed?
02:51 ShadowNinja What?
02:51 ShadowNinja ~owner enable roulette
02:51 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: That command wasn't disabled.
02:51 diemartin ~roulette
02:52 ShadowBot diemartin: *click*
02:52 diemartin O_o
02:52 ShadowNinja Huh.
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03:16 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Add pointed_thing to minetest.register_on_placenode 1b5b6fe692 2014-01-21T19:06:40-08:00 http://git.io/OetWPw
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04:53 katyusha Is it possible yet to run minetest on a mac
04:53 katyusha I want my friend to play, sadly he uses a mac
05:05 us_0gb katyusha: Sad indeed, but it could be worse. Many months ago, I think someone managed to get Minetest running on a Mac, but it wasn't easy.
05:05 katyusha us_0gb, yeah... I'm not gonna have an easy time getting him to switch over to GNU/Linux
05:05 katyusha I may try getting him to run it in wine
05:06 us_0gb Also, I wouldn't even bother trying on a PowerPC processor. I have Minetest running on a PowerPC processor, but it does not work well (at least the client doesn't).
05:07 us_0gb But if Wine is functioning, I'm assuming it's not a PowerPC processor.
05:12 katyusha yeah, it's an x86
05:12 katyusha unsure what architechure however
05:14 us_0gb THe biggest obstacle should be the compiling for the system then. I'd experiment and see what I could find, but I don't have any copies of OS X to test on.
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05:27 katyusha us_0gb, it seems I'll just either have to convince him to use GNU/Linux or just drop it
05:28 katyusha it's too much trouble and my distaste for OS X makes me not really want to continue with it..
05:29 us_0gb katyusha: Good luck then. It would be great if we had an OS X port, but that takes a maintainer.
05:29 katyusha Thanks
05:29 us_0gb I understand how you feel. If I had to try to make it work on Windows, my distaste for that would get in the way.
05:30 katyusha I actually wouldn't mind minetest being GNU/Linux and possibly BSD only, as it would drive people over to the OS
05:30 katyusha but regardless, thanks
05:30 us_0gb Assuming there wasn't a readily-available Windows version.
05:30 katyusha well yeah :P
05:31 us_0gb I think someone got it running on BSD fairly easily .... just a few minor modifications that were later added upstream.
05:31 katyusha can you compile it on say, freebsd easily now?
05:31 katyusha Or does it need patches
05:32 us_0gb As for removing the Windows version, I hear Minetest is a pain in the rear to compile without the buildbot. It would be a shame if something were to  ... happen to the buildbot. If you know what I'm saying.
05:32 us_0gb I think you can compile on BSD without modification now, but I'm not sure.
05:33 katyusha what is buildbot?
05:33 katyusha but yes I understand ;)
05:34 us_0gb It's a set of scripts for compiling on and/or for Windows, I think. I don't know, I haven't looked at it. It's in the Minetest source tree if you want to take a look.
05:35 katyusha ah ok
05:39 us_0gb I think though that if Minetest were not available on Windows, it wouldn't drive people away from Windows - it would drive them away from Minetest.
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07:33 reactor 'ello
07:36 cornernote sup
07:36 reactor Been procrastinating all evening, still got A.
07:37 cornernote in your science/philosophy ?
07:37 reactor Electronics.
07:37 cornernote nice
07:38 cornernote i never did well in school
07:38 cornernote i think it wasnt a good learning environment for me
07:39 cornernote hight school that is
07:39 cornernote high*
07:39 cornernote never went on to uni or anything
07:39 reactor ...turned out I had memorised all semester's material on the fly, so didn't have to cram.
07:40 reactor I wonder what I'm doing wrong, because other subjects I still have to cram, no matter how well I do during term (and I do do well).
07:40 reactor Oh... Sorry to hear that; how come?
07:41 cornernote i guess some subject you enjoy more, and the information flows better ?
07:41 cornernote i found it easier to learn on my own
07:41 reactor I enjoy quantum mechanics just as well.
07:41 cornernote teachers just read crap from a book
07:42 reactor Remembering school... well, whose school didn't suck!@
07:42 cornernote i figure skip the middleman, read the book myself
07:42 reactor It's not a good environment at all.
07:42 cornernote its not for everyone, but it works for me
07:43 reactor Books are often full of little details, and principial things get lost.
07:43 cornernote you can miss a lot of info doing it this way
07:43 cornernote but you can gain a lot that others didnt get too
07:43 reactor Lecturers do a good job stressing important facts.
07:43 reactor At least ours do.
07:43 cornernote eg, i learned php/mysql well before it was being taught at schools
07:43 cornernote but i lacked some fundamental computer science concepts
07:44 cornernote had to figure out things the hard way
07:44 reactor Oh, I see your point.
07:44 reactor Pre-reading is good.
07:44 cornernote i never programmed anything in my life before php (well, if you dont include commodore64 basic)
07:45 cornernote not even html markup
07:45 cornernote then i just read the manual, about 6 times
07:45 cornernote and then one day all those words that ment nothing, started to have meaning
07:45 reactor The whole manual? I thought they are better used as reference material.
07:46 cornernote it was php3, so the manual was smaller
07:46 cornernote didnt read the entire function ref, but all other parts
07:46 reactor So, only what is essential?
07:46 cornernote i didnt know what was essential
07:46 cornernote so i just started on page 1
07:47 cornernote printed the thing
07:47 cornernote lol
07:47 reactor Speaking of which, we need an algorithm that determines what parts of a big book can be skipped without harm.
07:47 cornernote depends on the book
07:48 cornernote that bok you had in quantum stuff... sounds like most of it can be skipped =)
07:48 reactor Say, you've just read Berne's Introduction to Psychoanalysis. Then you decide to read a compilation of Freud.
07:48 cornernote this is a nice book on QED - http://www.scribd.com/doc/7119268/2physics-Qed-Feynman-Qed-the-Strange-Theory-of-Light-and-Matter-Princeton-University-Pre
07:49 cornernote dont skip any pages
07:49 reactor Some things are repeated, and in Berne's version they are better.
07:49 cornernote ahh, i se what you mean
07:49 cornernote like the book knows your previous books
07:49 cornernote so there is a "skip these parts, you already know them"
07:49 reactor That book on String Theory was not even ST, it was _about_ ST. I regret reading it before reading ST itself.
07:50 cornernote read the Feynman one
07:50 cornernote hes brilliant
07:50 reactor ...I think it's safer to read later books, then skip corresponding parts in earlier books.
07:50 cornernote not only that, but a brilliant explainer
07:51 reactor Quantum Electrodynamics?
07:51 cornernote yea
07:51 reactor We've bee studying this topic recently.
07:52 reactor Hmm.
07:52 cornernote theres a video set thats similar to the book if you prefer to kick back - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPDP_8X5Hug
07:52 cornernote but i highly recommend the book
07:52 cornernote i dont do this for school or anything
07:52 reactor Is there a list of books by Feynman?
07:52 cornernote just for personal interest
07:53 cornernote i have no idea, probably is... just ask google
07:54 cornernote i was interested in it because it offered to expalain the universe
07:54 cornernote but the more i learn, the less i know
07:54 cornernote lol
07:55 cornernote i found a link to einsteins SR too
07:55 cornernote i only read a small part, but it was really interesting to just read the intro
07:56 reactor been there; I think I need to read about GR before moving on to ST.
07:57 cornernote no, other way around... i think you need to know SR first
07:57 cornernote SR = GR with no gravity/accelleration
07:59 reactor I've been there
08:00 cornernote i love the 1st page: http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/einstein/works/1910s/relative/relativity.pdf (page6)
08:00 cornernote he explains so well that geometry on paper really really seems to match the universe we live in
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08:09 reactor ~...why do headers in that book seem dark-blue?
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08:20 cornernote no idea
08:20 cornernote so... what can we do that's sciency in minetest?
08:20 cornernote something in mesecons, but need an idea for a new build
08:21 reactor Pripyat.
08:21 cornernote a city ?
08:21 reactor As for why, well, I've already made the map, rather, ported the one by someone else some time ago.
08:22 reactor I need someone to whom I could pass it on. It's far from completion.
08:22 cornernote how u gunna do the nuclear disaster ?
08:23 cornernote build the reactor from TNT  lol
08:23 reactor It's past-disaster city.
08:23 reactor I didn't port the plant itself, for I didn't have time.
08:25 reactor Nor am I very interested in the plant itself; it's just like any other nuclear plant if you don't count disaster site.
08:25 reactor The city itself would be an interesting location for survival mode.
08:25 reactor ...or deathmatch.
08:26 reactor If you're interested, I could show you some screens of what I made.
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08:33 reactor ...not sure about the mesecons part, though.
08:33 reactor Other than elaborate boobytraps.
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08:35 reactor OldCoder: g'mowin
08:35 OldCoder reactor, moin
08:35 * OldCoder will sleep shortly
08:36 * OldCoder has had another odd month and appreciates patience
08:36 reactor Haven't seen you for a while and a number of reasons; how's the how's?
08:37 OldCoder reactor, I am so tired physically
08:38 OldCoder But attempting to put things together
08:38 OldCoder I am grateful for the greeting
08:38 OldCoder The meeting should not be fleeting :-)
08:38 OldCoder But I will be asleep in moments
08:38 * OldCoder rests
08:38 OldCoder reactor, ^
08:39 reactor Mighty nighty night then! o/
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11:35 specing troller: you should really turn off liquid dirt
11:35 specing I did a tunnel and now the hill looks weird
11:47 troller okay
11:48 troller but after restart
11:48 specing and can you apply that patch already? :X
11:48 specing I needed cobbles today and activated two tnts
11:48 specing then spend the next 5 mins clicking like a maniac
11:53 troller restarted
11:53 troller patch - no
11:55 troller if you want to reach top of moutains - you needd loooot of cobble 8)
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14:04 specing proller: wow, I've hit a 10x10 mossy cobblestone cube cave, was that generated?
14:05 proller dungeon
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14:14 specing proller: its massive
14:14 specing proller: goto road and follow the road
14:14 proller i cant now
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14:40 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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15:10 iqualfragile "I will take a look later. Much much later. Because I'm Ukrainian and we have revolution right now. Sorry" nice
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15:37 iqualfragile http://www.isnichwahr.de/comments/uploads/1044/51761390388658.jpg
15:38 PilzAdam isdochwahr
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15:56 PenguinDad hi john_minetest
16:05 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/walking-test-3-1/ PilzAdam :P
16:05 PilzAdam wrong textures ;_;
16:05 Jordach 8th time
16:05 Jordach pfft spotify
16:13 PilzAdam fun fact: 4 people googled "nodetopia" and clicked on the link to my repo
16:14 PilzAdam (since 9th january)
16:20 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Wher'd you get those stats?
16:23 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, https://github.com/blog/1672-introducing-github-traffic-analytics
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16:36 proller and all 4 have nick "PilzAdam" ?
16:36 PilzAdam PilzAdams dont use google
16:37 * reactor fetches his safety goggles
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16:40 reactor Oh, me.
16:40 reactor What are you looking at?
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16:41 reactor I am not a pony, stop this staring.
16:42 reactor It must be the goggles? You don't like it when people wear goggles?
16:42 PilzAdam ponies sometimes wear goggles
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16:54 kaeza greetings
16:54 Sokomine hi
16:54 reactor PilzAdam: that does not make me one
16:55 Sokomine i'm wondering what players/server admins will think about an anvil that can be used to repair tools - similar to technic. instead of setting up technic once and waiting, you have to hit the anvil with a hammer
16:56 Sokomine that anvil-nodebox from realtest fits well into my cottages-mod; i wanted to have an anvil for some time anyway. and such a node calls for usage...
16:57 PilzAdam I guess it would be cool in the realtest game
17:07 Sokomine the anvil exists already in the realtest game. it is absolutely necessary there and a core element for creating tools. repairing is less necessary there because tools last a very long time (once you've manage to create them - which is not as easy as in default)
17:07 PilzAdam I mean that hitting with a hammer
17:08 reactor 2guys1hammer
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17:23 rubenwardy Hi all
17:25 kaeza hey ruben
17:27 rubenwardy What up in da hood, bruva?
17:27 rubenwardy (lol)
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17:29 Jordach i'd go for that n bomb, but nukes don't cut it
17:32 ShadowNinja Jordach: Hmmm?
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17:53 Sokomine PilzAdam: ah. realtest requires the hammer to be placed inside the anvil. i think hitting is more logical. also it is used by the wheat-processing tools for cottages
17:56 kaeza are the forum slowing down again or it's just my crappy 3G?
17:56 kaeza +s
17:57 PilzAdam yes
17:57 kaeza ._.
17:57 iqualfragile PilzAdam: Muck bloß nicht uff hier du Rudi
18:00 proller specing, you are second!
18:00 proller BlockBuilder places node default:cobble at (8935,1804,2263)
18:00 iqualfragile proller: hafti beste!
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18:06 proller wat?
18:06 iqualfragile john_minetest: Nicht link von hinten ich hau dich frontal sakat
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18:07 iqualfragile wut m8? ich dacht das wär ne parodie, der nimmt sich wirklich ernst?
18:07 proller понаехало тут
18:07 kaeza no se entiende un carajo ._.
18:08 PilzAdam iqualfragile, john_minetest, proller, kaeza, this is an english channel
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18:08 ShadowNinja Ehm, we DO have seperate non-english channels.
18:08 iqualfragile PilzAdam: Dein Yokuzuna Sumo ficke ich mit nem push Kick
18:09 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: Did you ask for a kick?  >:-)
18:09 PilzAdam Is it better to not write german gangster rap in this channel? I think so.
18:10 ShadowNinja ^
18:12 ShadowNinja True, perhaps...
18:13 kaeza http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/45115285.jpg
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18:27 JackGruff is it just me or have the jokes in xkcd become less technically over the years?
18:27 JackGruff technical*
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18:35 rubenwardy HTML5 2d particle physics! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in8VAwe8DmQ
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19:18 sfan5 meow
19:20 VanessaE hi
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19:25 sfan5 john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/nySOBtb.jpg
19:25 PilzAdam no kitten fight! Im allergic to adorableness!
19:28 * sfan5 throws a kitten at PilzAdam
19:28 STHGOM :O
19:29 STHGOM INCOMEING!!!!!
19:34 * rubenwardy empties a box of kittens over sfan5's head
19:34 sfan5 /usr/bin/kittengen --infinite --only=cute /home/rubenwardy/
19:35 rubenwardy xkill /usr/bin/kittengen;
19:35 rubenwardy Mw ha ha ha
19:35 sfan5 kittengen is not a graphical app
19:35 * reactor fizzles all kittens
19:35 * sfan5 puts Rainbow Dash on rubenwardy's head
19:35 reactor Don't worry. There are spare ones.
19:35 jin_xi http://i.imgur.com/lddrYWO.jpg have some manuls
19:35 reactor sfan5: you suck at typesetting.
19:36 reactor Who's gonna notice that dash is coloured?
19:36 reactor Waste of ink it is.
19:36 sfan5 !rainbow -
19:36 MinetestBot 4-
19:36 sfan5 \o/
19:36 rubenwardy !rainbow ~g hi!
19:36 MinetestBot 4~4g4 7h7i7!
19:36 reactor It's a typewriter minus, not a dash eh.
19:37 rubenwardy !reverse !ih g~
19:37 MinetestBot ~g hi!
19:37 rubenwardy nope.
19:37 reactor ih? You're calculating something from quantum mechanics?
19:41 reactor ...you're not.
19:42 MinetestBot 4~4~4~7~7~7~8~8~8~3~3~3~~~~6~6~6~~~~4~4~4~7~7~7~8~8~8~3~3~3~~~~6~6~6~~~~4~4~4~7~7[7@8]8:8​3
19:42 reactor !rainbow pointlessness
19:42 MinetestBot 4p4o4i7n7t7l8e8s8s3n3e3ss
19:43 STHGOM !rainbow KITTENS!!!
19:43 MinetestBot 4K4I4T7T7E7N8S8!8!3!
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19:49 sfan5 !c int(bin('~')[2:])
19:49 MinetestBot Exception: type object argument after * must be a sequence, not generator
19:49 sfan5 !c 1
19:49 MinetestBot 1
19:49 sfan5 !c 1+1
19:49 MinetestBot 2
19:56 rubenwardy !c self = {}
19:56 MinetestBot Exception: AST node type not allowed: 'Dict'
19:56 rubenwardy !c self = 0
19:56 MinetestBot 0
19:56 rubenwardy !c 1
19:56 MinetestBot 1
19:56 rubenwardy :P
19:56 rubenwardy !c tmp = 2
19:56 MinetestBot 2
19:56 rubenwardy !c tmp
19:56 MinetestBot Exception: AST node type not allowed: 'Name'
19:57 MinetestBot Exception: AST node type not allowed: 'Name'
20:04 STHGOM cya
20:14 reactor Pwned.
20:15 rubenwardy !eval hi = 1
20:15 rubenwardy bye all
20:16 reactor What's the point of building an expression calculator into an IRC bot?
20:16 reactor Don't you know about the wonderful program called bc(1)?
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20:32 EvergreenTree o/
20:42 sfan5 !c bin(4)
20:42 MinetestBot '0b100'
20:43 sfan5 !c len(bin(4))
20:43 MinetestBot 5
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20:52 ShadowNinja sfan5: You should probably add ShadowBot to MinetestBot's ignore list.
20:53 sfan5 why?
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21:07 khonkhortisan I have enjoyed this fisheye modification to quake. http://shaunlebron.com/blinky/ I wish to copy that functionality to another game. Is minetest a good game to add that to?
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21:19 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, try adding fov = 120 to config
21:23 khonkhortisan try fov = 179
21:23 khonkhortisan rectilinear isn't good for wide views
21:23 khonkhortisan I already play at 120
21:25 khonkhortisan and 360 is great
21:25 PilzAdam AFAIK Minetest limits it to 180
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21:26 khonkhortisan because of the projection used
21:31 khonkhortisan at 179 if you look down next to a tree you can see inside it
21:33 PilzAdam bye
21:34 khonkhortisan If I added it to a first-person shooter, I'd be called a cheater. Minetest is more construction than pvp, and I'm wondering if irrlicht will allow me to mess with the render
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22:34 jojoa1997 hello
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22:37 qwrwed @ShadowNinja: Thanks for adding register_on_placenode, but actually it was register_on_punchnode... It may be helpful in mods, but could you add pointed_thing to register_on_punchnode as well?
22:37 qwrwed (pointed_thing)
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