| Time |
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| 00:00 |
WindHero |
boot time: ~3-5 s. |
| 00:00 |
Exio4 |
my laptop booted in 7 seconds with an HDD |
| 00:01 |
WindHero |
did it have a crapload of stuff on it yet though? |
| 00:01 |
Megaf |
ok |
| 00:01 |
WindHero |
before I filled up a bunch of programs, it was some 2 s. |
| 00:01 |
Exio4 |
i did |
| 00:01 |
Megaf |
now I could be very screwed |
| 00:01 |
Megaf |
Just did this megaf BigSam:~$ rm -rf * |
| 00:01 |
WindHero |
? |
| 00:02 |
Megaf |
WindHero: I just wiped all my files |
| 00:02 |
WindHero |
I was afraid that was what it meant. :( |
| 00:03 |
Megaf |
see why I have several backups across multiple drives? |
| 00:03 |
WindHero |
yup |
| 00:03 |
WindHero |
gtg |
| 00:03 |
Megaf |
cya |
| 00:03 |
Exio4 |
you could have serval backups over multiple drivers |
| 00:03 |
Exio4 |
drives |
| 00:03 |
Exio4 |
and also offline backups |
| 00:03 |
Exio4 |
but if the user is dumb. hmm, there is no fix |
| 00:03 |
Megaf |
Exio4: that's what I do |
| 00:04 |
Megaf |
I have 5 hard disks with off line backups |
| 00:04 |
Megaf |
I know eventually I will wipe my data |
| 00:04 |
Megaf |
as I just did |
| 00:04 |
Megaf |
so best thing I could do is keep my data safe |
| 00:05 |
Vazon |
so i think ifound it |
| 00:06 |
Vazon |
Megaf can you try to log in |
| 00:06 |
Megaf |
sure |
| 00:06 |
Vazon |
thanks |
| 00:16 |
Megaf |
Vazon: did it crash? |
| 00:17 |
Vazon |
no |
| 00:17 |
Vazon |
wait |
| 00:17 |
Vazon |
mhmm ya |
| 00:17 |
Vazon |
relog |
| 00:17 |
Megaf |
what cause the crash? |
| 00:18 |
Megaf |
caused* |
| 00:18 |
Vazon |
idk it didnt tell me i believe the snow mod , its a old version and the fix i but for it back them was a crappy one and i hear 0.4.9 broke the mod so i need to remove it |
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| 00:27 |
Vazon |
its back megaf |
| 00:34 |
Megaf |
Vazon: I'm involved with my own server issues now :P |
| 00:42 |
blaise |
!up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org |
| 00:42 |
MinetestBot |
midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 seems to be down |
| 00:42 |
blaise |
!up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org 35000 |
| 00:42 |
MinetestBot |
midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:35000 seems to be down |
| 00:43 |
blaise |
=[ |
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SoniEx2 |
does minetest have note blocks? |
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FreeFull |
SoniEx2: There might some some mod for them, but it doesn't come with them |
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FreeFull |
I'd expect it'd be related to the mesecons mods |
| 00:54 |
SoniEx2 |
uhh ok :/ |
| 00:56 |
harrison |
minetest needs a 01,09memehopper mod |
| 00:58 |
SoniEx2 |
does minetest have redstone? |
| 00:59 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix error messages beeing shown on pressing cursor keys in various menus 90f0859128 2014-05-11T02:57:47+02:00 http://git.io/oQrihw |
| 01:04 |
harrison |
01,09mememememememememememmememememememememememememememememememememememememe |
| 01:04 |
harrison |
01,09 _ internet insect . |
| 01:04 |
harrison |
01,09 _ __ ___ ___ _ __ ___ ___ | |__ ___ _ __ _ __ ___ _ __ . |
| 01:04 |
harrison |
01,09 | '_ ` _ \ / _ \| '_ ` _ \ / _ \| '_ \ / _ \| '_ \| '_ \ / _ \| '__|. |
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harrison |
mememememememememememmememememememememememememememememememememememememe |
| 01:04 |
harrison |
_ internet insect . |
| 01:04 |
harrison |
_ __ ___ ___ _ __ ___ ___ | |__ ___ _ __ _ __ ___ _ __ . |
| 01:04 |
harrison |
| '_ ` _ \ / _ \| '_ ` _ \ / _ \| '_ \ / _ \| '_ \| '_ \ / _ \| '__|. |
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| 01:05 |
harrison |
man |
| 01:05 |
SoniEx2 |
does minetest have beds? |
| 01:05 |
SoniEx2 |
I'm tired .-. |
| 01:06 |
harrison |
you and me both |
| 01:06 |
harrison |
-- i am tired of being repressed by the System |
| 01:07 |
SoniEx2 |
I'm tired of assholes, I'm tired of being awake because I didn't sleep properly, I'm tired of being tired .-. |
| 01:07 |
harrison |
Your language is not family-friendly |
| 01:08 |
harrison |
I am also xosted but i don't go around cursing like an oaf |
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vazon |
Megaf you there? |
| 01:15 |
FreeFull |
SoniEx2: There is at least one mod with beds |
| 01:15 |
FreeFull |
I advise we all go sleep |
| 01:17 |
Megaf |
vazon: maybe |
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| 01:18 |
vazon |
did the server crash again?? |
| 01:18 |
Megaf |
vazon: mine or yours? |
| 01:18 |
Megaf |
~up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 01:18 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: minetest.megaf.info port 30003 is up (1509ms) |
| 01:18 |
vazon |
mine cause I'm not home atm |
| 01:19 |
Megaf |
~up 75.131.40.131 |
| 01:19 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: 75.131.40.131 port 30000 is up (808ms) |
| 01:19 |
Megaf |
your server is up vazon |
| 01:20 |
vazon |
mhmm the config must be messed up cause I can't see it on the server list |
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SoniEx2 |
do you guys have a build server? |
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| 02:12 |
Megaf |
I dont think so SoniEx2 |
| 02:12 |
Megaf |
why? |
| 02:13 |
SoniEx2 |
do they want a build server? |
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Megaf |
SoniEx2: hm |
| 02:32 |
Megaf |
maybe |
| 02:32 |
Megaf |
way a sec please |
| 02:33 |
Megaf |
SoniEx2: Why would you offer that? |
| 02:33 |
* Megaf |
is nobody, just a player |
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| 03:13 |
Vazon |
!up 75.131.40.131 |
| 03:13 |
MinetestBot |
75.131.40.131:30000 is up (134ms) |
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| 03:20 |
Megaf |
you good Vazon ? |
| 03:22 |
Vazon |
maby :P |
| 03:22 |
Vazon |
!up 75.131.40.131\ |
| 03:22 |
MinetestBot |
75.131.40.131\:30000 seems to be down |
| 03:22 |
Vazon |
!up 75.131.40.131 |
| 03:22 |
Vazon |
.. |
| 03:22 |
Vazon |
not going to respond? |
| 03:22 |
Vazon |
!up 75.131.40.131 |
| 03:22 |
MinetestBot |
75.131.40.131:30000 is up (132ms) |
| 03:23 |
Vazon |
its not linking hte server list that is the only prob i got left |
| 03:23 |
Vazon |
liking* |
| 03:24 |
Vazon |
it seems to pop on and off the server list |
| 03:24 |
Megaf |
Vazon: you compiled with curl support? |
| 03:24 |
Vazon |
what? i dont understand |
| 03:25 |
Megaf |
curl is a library |
| 03:25 |
Megaf |
that a server need to tell minetest server list its on |
| 03:25 |
Megaf |
I mean |
| 03:26 |
Megaf |
it needs to announce itself to servers.minetest.net |
| 03:26 |
Vazon |
o idk |
| 03:26 |
Megaf |
hold on |
| 03:27 |
Megaf |
Vazon: libcurl3 lua-curl-dev |
| 03:27 |
Megaf |
install these |
| 03:27 |
Megaf |
then recompile your server |
| 03:28 |
Megaf |
apt-get install libcurl3 lua-curl-dev |
| 03:28 |
Vazon |
-.- i have already recomipled it like 4 times |
| 03:29 |
Megaf |
did you rerun cmake? |
| 03:30 |
Megaf |
you need to rerun cmake to tell it that you cave curl |
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Vazon |
!up 75.131.40.131 |
| 04:11 |
MinetestBot |
75.131.40.131:30000 is up (136ms) |
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Eater4 |
Vazon: you run minerealems right? |
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| 05:55 |
Vazon |
Eater you asked if i run minerealms? |
| 05:57 |
Vazon |
Eater4? |
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| 07:22 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 07:27 |
Calinou |
minimal game loads so fast in comparison to Carbone :s |
| 07:29 |
Calinou |
I found a dungeon “stub†in the surface |
| 07:29 |
VanessaE |
hey |
| 07:29 |
whiskers75 |
Calinou: MAKE MORE OPTIMIZED |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
not much you can do to speed up 2000 item/node registrations :) |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
dreambuilder probably makes carbone look like minimal by comparison ;) |
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Calinou |
There are 2016 registered nodes, items and tools. |
| 07:35 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, the limit is 32767, right? |
| 07:35 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 07:35 |
Calinou |
I remember when it used to be 2048 or even 4095, Stairs+ took a significant part of it :p |
| 07:35 |
VanessaE |
dreambuilder has somewhere north of 6000 I think |
| 07:36 |
Calinou |
heh, a surface dungeon goes underground using a staircase |
| 07:37 |
Calinou |
strange, stair nodes generate only sometimes in dungeons |
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* sfan5 |
meows at whiskers75 |
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* whiskers75 |
meows back |
| 07:48 |
Calinou |
water being opaque while not digging really needs a fix |
| 07:51 |
Calinou |
does anyone have a patch for this? |
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| 07:58 |
VanessaE |
you mean the Y axis :) |
| 07:58 |
Calinou |
no, when digging, it's fine |
| 07:58 |
Calinou |
when not digging, it becomes opaque |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
the only opaque/non-opaqueness I've seen with water was when it would randomly flick between the two states depending on your view angle like john said, but I've never noticed a digging-related change |
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* markveidemanis |
doesn't play minetest |
| 08:03 |
asie |
hey minetesters |
| 08:03 |
asie |
oh man the factory mod looks so awesome |
| 08:03 |
markveidemanis |
Hi asie! |
| 08:04 |
asie |
also my current pack has 1400 nodes if anyone's curious |
| 08:04 |
markveidemanis |
does it? |
| 08:04 |
asie |
yes |
| 08:04 |
asie |
it's not really fleshed-out tho |
| 08:04 |
asie |
it lacks automation... a slightly stripped-down version of pipeworks and a rewrite of Jordach's tanks and the new Factory mod will probably do it though |
| 08:06 |
markveidemanis |
I see the forums are still shit |
| 08:08 |
asie |
markveidemanis: oh shut up they're not |
| 08:08 |
asie |
they're the best we're going to have anyway |
| 08:08 |
markveidemanis |
Really? |
| 08:09 |
markveidemanis |
The punbb ones were tons better |
| 08:09 |
asie |
oh |
| 08:09 |
asie |
you mean the engine, not the community? |
| 08:09 |
markveidemanis |
Yes! |
| 08:09 |
asie |
i usually like to host forums on FluxBB, yes |
| 08:09 |
* markveidemanis |
googles |
| 08:09 |
asie |
i really want to launch a Minetest server in Poland |
| 08:09 |
asie |
but nobody would play on it and it makes me sad |
| 08:11 |
Calinou |
hi asie |
| 08:11 |
asie |
hi Calinou |
| 08:11 |
Calinou |
<asie> also my current pack has 1400 nodes if anyone's curious |
| 08:11 |
Calinou |
you mean, your game? |
| 08:11 |
asie |
yes |
| 08:11 |
Calinou |
mine has 2016 nodes, items and tools |
| 08:12 |
asie |
i come from minecraft, i use minecraft terminology still |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
(it's stated when starting server) |
| 08:12 |
markveidemanis |
asie: Biome/Biome, Chunk/Block |
| 08:12 |
asie |
markveidemanis: I know already |
| 08:12 |
markveidemanis |
Block/Node |
| 08:12 |
asie |
but I forget sometimes |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
pack, in Minetest terminology, is usually short for “modpack†:P |
| 08:12 |
markveidemanis |
pack |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
markveidemanis, it depends, Block is widely used in the game |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
I use block for most non-technical descriptions |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
MapBlock for chunk |
| 08:13 |
markveidemanis |
Or cube... |
| 08:13 |
markveidemanis |
Voxel if you want to get technical :P |
| 08:13 |
Calinou |
eg. “Coal Block†:P |
| 08:13 |
asie |
it still makes me sad that running a Minetest server in Poland is out of the question |
| 08:13 |
asie |
everyone plays Minecraft... /pirated/ Minecraft, at that |
| 08:17 |
markveidemanis |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=31 |
| 08:18 |
asie |
markveidemanis: 150 posts in 2.5 years |
| 08:19 |
asie |
by about 10 people |
| 08:19 |
markveidemanis |
Not so bad |
| 08:19 |
asie |
most of which stopped posting ages ago |
| 08:19 |
markveidemanis |
It doesn't matter where your server is |
| 08:19 |
markveidemanis |
Anyone can still connect to it] |
| 08:20 |
asie |
yes but |
| 08:20 |
asie |
it's not the same |
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| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 08:31 |
Calinou |
bye |
| 08:31 |
Calinou |
<asie> it still makes me sad that running a Minetest server in Poland is out of the question |
| 08:31 |
Calinou |
why? |
| 08:31 |
asie |
userbase is non-existent |
| 08:31 |
asie |
everyone pirates Minecraft |
| 08:31 |
Calinou |
play with non-Polish people then |
| 08:32 |
Calinou |
there aren't much French people either |
| 08:32 |
asie |
it's not the same is the problem |
| 08:32 |
asie |
:P |
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asie |
no, it's more like everyone ostensibly steals bikes from the bike shop |
| 08:45 |
asie |
and you know you won't sell cars because not even bikes sell, even if the cars are much cheaper they'll just keep stealing bikes |
| 08:45 |
asie |
as that's simpler |
| 08:45 |
asie |
also everyone uses bikes, why would anyone use a car if they'd just be mocked by the bike users association |
| 08:45 |
asie |
who keep saying bikes are superior and have many people to advertise bikes |
| 08:46 |
asie |
but that's essentially what happens here |
| 08:46 |
asie |
you have a few let's players who literally decide what's cool right now |
| 08:46 |
asie |
and everyone following the trends |
| 08:47 |
asie |
john_minetest: why don't they tell me they'd like a car then? |
| 08:47 |
asie |
everyone seems perfectly fine with bikes |
| 08:48 |
asie |
nobody evver mentioned "hey, cars are cool" |
| 08:48 |
asie |
"why don't we have cars?" |
| 08:48 |
asie |
everyone keeps riding bikes and keeps trying to turn their bike into a car |
| 08:48 |
asie |
but they wouldn't use a car because it's not a bike |
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asie |
yeah |
| 08:48 |
asie |
latest stats show 94% of Polish internet users pirate on a regular basis |
| 08:49 |
asie |
not even kidding |
| 08:49 |
asie |
do you think most of them care about whether it's legal or not? |
| 08:50 |
* markveidemanis |
feels bad |
| 08:51 |
asie |
john_minetest: Hah. |
| 08:51 |
asie |
But most people in Poland don't even care about who made the bike |
| 08:51 |
asie |
as long as it is a bike |
| 08:51 |
asie |
that's the problem |
| 08:51 |
asie |
the only guy who seems to get credit is Zyczu, the maintainer of the most popular pirated launcher |
| 08:51 |
asie |
most popular because it keeps working |
| 08:52 |
asie |
I did tell my friends |
| 08:52 |
asie |
they said exactly what I said above |
| 08:52 |
asie |
they want to keep playing Minecraft because it's "better" |
| 08:53 |
asie |
even if I tried to prove to them cars are better they didn't care, the biggest complaint was that it doesn't look like a bike |
| 08:54 |
asie |
that is, the textures are "worse" |
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| 08:58 |
asie |
"modding your bike is nearly impossible" |
| 08:58 |
asie |
it is perfectly possible, i modded bikes a while back |
| 08:58 |
asie |
but the problem is every half a year a new bike gets released |
| 08:58 |
asie |
everyone flocks to it because it's new, but the only thing that changes is the coating |
| 08:58 |
asie |
and the entire internal structure |
| 08:59 |
asie |
so you need to mod it all over again |
| 08:59 |
asie |
and you can't be the voice of reason and say "we've had enough changes, let's stay to the old model of bikes" |
| 08:59 |
asie |
because everyone will ignore you because IT'S A NEW BIKE |
| 08:59 |
asie |
that's why i came here |
| 08:59 |
asie |
they said they will remotely stop the old bikes from working if we don't move to the new bikes, even, in an IRC conversation |
| 09:00 |
asie |
Mojang seems to be eerily similar in ways of work to Apple nowadays |
| 09:01 |
asie |
The best way to do it would be to make YouTube videos of the car |
| 09:01 |
asie |
I guess. |
| 09:01 |
asie |
anyway, afk |
| 09:08 |
Ritchie |
Hi, I have problem compiling minetest.. I did git pull to actual version and make ended with error, something with JThread |
| 09:08 |
Ritchie |
/minetest/src/jthread/pthread/jthread.cpp:196:11: error: ‘class JThread’ has no member named ‘runningmutex’ |
| 09:09 |
Ritchie |
there are more similar lines |
| 09:09 |
Ritchie |
/minetest/src/jthread/pthread/jthread.cpp:57:2: error: ‘runningmutex’ was not declared in this scope |
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sfan5 |
Ritchie: which os? |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 09:32 |
jin_xi |
Hi PilzAdam |
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sfan5 |
hi PilzAdam |
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Ritchie |
sfan5: linux |
| 09:49 |
sfan5 |
linux what? |
| 09:49 |
Ritchie |
debian |
| 09:50 |
Ritchie |
wheezy |
| 09:53 |
sfan5 |
g++ version? |
| 09:53 |
Ritchie |
g++ (Debian 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2 |
| 09:53 |
sfan5 |
^ Ritchie |
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sfan5 |
that should be good enough |
| 09:54 |
sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
file an issue on github |
| 09:54 |
Ritchie |
I got it maybe.. I am compiling in copied folder that has another name than original folder |
| 09:55 |
sfan5 |
that could be the problem |
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sfan5 |
you need to re-run cmake then |
| 09:55 |
Ritchie |
patches in cmakefiles are wrong |
| 09:55 |
sfan5 |
patches? |
| 09:56 |
Ritchie |
how to say it.. names of folder |
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Ritchie |
yes you are right |
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Ritchie |
they are from the Czech republic, same as me :) |
| 10:13 |
Ritchie |
you can tell many commands to other team mates via radio |
| 10:15 |
Ritchie |
sfan5: I tried to compile updated minetest with proper folder name and it was successfully built |
| 10:15 |
Ritchie |
sfan5: thank you for help |
| 10:15 |
sfan5 |
no problem |
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Ritchie |
did you notice that LuaJIT has new version since March? |
| 10:17 |
sfan5 |
me? why are you asking? |
| 10:19 |
Ritchie |
i meant this question to whole channel.. i noticed it now, LuaJIT has some bugfixes |
| 10:21 |
Calinou |
ARMA takes 40 minutes to play at least and needs very good hardware |
| 10:21 |
Calinou |
it's insanely demanding, thus a bad example |
| 10:22 |
PenguinDad |
Minetest has big enough worlds for tactical shooters :P |
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arsdragonfly |
VanessaE: I'm using your lua profiler and it's giving me negative number of time. What's wrong with that? |
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sapier |
hello does anyone know a game replacing the hudbar selection by an image? |
| 10:42 |
PenguinDad |
sapier: minetest_next and carbone do that |
| 10:42 |
sapier |
thanks |
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PenguinDad |
mapgen does interesting things in carbone https://cdn.mediacru.sh/hZLk5WS7Cs4i.png |
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FreeFull |
PenguinDad: Looks like a collision between three biomes all flying at each other |
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Calinou |
there are two biomes in v6 |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix incorrect scaling of customized hud item selection marker b16cbba21a 2014-05-11T13:26:23+02:00 http://git.io/axCKKA |
| 11:28 |
Calinou |
FreeFull, this is a desert dungeon |
| 11:28 |
sfan5 |
PenguinDad: those are desert dungeons |
| 11:28 |
FreeFull |
Calinou: Ah |
| 11:29 |
FreeFull |
I'd love to see more stuff in minetest that you'd never see in minecraft |
| 11:30 |
sfan5 |
write a mod |
| 11:30 |
sfan5 |
that does that |
| 11:31 |
FreeFull |
You need a good idea first though |
| 11:32 |
sfan5 |
chest and mob spawners for dungeons |
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PenguinDad |
the interesting thing is I can find desert dungeon in other biomes too |
| 11:33 |
sfan5 |
are you sure? |
| 11:33 |
sfan5 |
desert dungeons always have 2 block wide hallways & use desert stone |
| 11:34 |
PenguinDad |
I've seen them in jungles too |
| 11:34 |
sfan5 |
jungles can override any biome |
| 11:34 |
sfan5 |
you can find both in them |
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hoodedice |
Is there a way to get an older server map from the client side |
| 12:02 |
PenguinDad |
Minetest - The elder maps :D |
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Calinou |
<FreeFull> I'd love to see more stuff in minetest that you'd never see in Minecraft |
| 12:03 |
Calinou |
happens quite a bit in Carbone already |
| 12:03 |
Calinou |
coins, different dungeons and mobs, air springs in caves… |
| 12:04 |
Calinou |
hoodedice, no, you would only be able to download current version |
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FreeFull |
Air springs? |
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markveidemanis |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 12:07 |
markveidemanis |
shit |
| 12:08 |
markveidemanis |
these user-defined commands are fucking annoying |
| 12:08 |
PenguinDad |
This makes no sense O_o |
| 12:09 |
PenguinDad |
When I resize my firefox all youtube videos reload |
| 12:10 |
FreeFull |
Carbone is interesting |
| 12:10 |
FreeFull |
PenguinDad: Odd |
| 12:11 |
PenguinDad |
john_minetest: I don't have flash either ;) |
| 12:11 |
* markveidemanis |
is hosting an irc server on 81.135.40.162 6667 |
| 12:11 |
markveidemanis |
or sslv.tk is the fucking dns works |
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markveidemanis |
Ping reply from ChanServ: 13.71 second(s) |
| 12:17 |
PenguinDad |
nothing like that only the html5 player |
| 12:19 |
hoodedice |
Say, what exactly is pointed_thing, and "above" and "under"? |
| 12:20 |
sfan5 |
hoodedice: above is where the node would be when you place one, under is the node in the black outline |
| 12:21 |
hoodedice |
okay, and pointed thing is the exact location of the mouse pointer? |
| 12:21 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 12:21 |
sfan5 |
pointed_thing has nothing to do with the mouse |
| 12:21 |
hoodedice |
That is confusing |
| 12:22 |
sfan5 |
pointed_thing is for nodes |
| 12:22 |
hoodedice |
ah, that makes sense |
| 12:22 |
PenguinDad |
hoodedice: pointed_thing is a table |
| 12:24 |
hoodedice |
I hate to be that person, but I still dunno how do you define a table, and how do you put values in it, and how to call those values? |
| 12:25 |
hoodedice |
But I won't bother anyone, and just peruse the pil and the dev wiki |
| 12:26 |
sfan5 |
t = {a=1, fct=function(a) return (a * a) - a end}; t.a => 1; t.fct => [function]; t.fct(3) => 6 |
| 12:26 |
sfan5 |
^ hoodedice |
| 12:26 |
hoodedice |
so, anything within {} is a table? |
| 12:27 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 12:27 |
sfan5 |
no |
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| 12:27 |
sfan5 |
anything within { and } are the values in the table |
| 12:28 |
hoodedice |
okay, got it |
| 12:28 |
hoodedice |
This increases my lua xp by 9000 =D |
| 12:28 |
jin_xi |
its not lua until there's a table |
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hoodedice |
Hey yo john_minetest |
| 12:30 |
hoodedice |
Oops |
| 12:30 |
Jordach |
trololol |
| 12:30 |
hoodedice |
Jordach |
| 12:32 |
* Jordach |
missed the amplified audio from his desktop |
| 12:34 |
hoodedice |
I would think that there is a way to stop generation of a map from the client side, when the map has generated to a certain extent |
| 12:35 |
sapier |
no there ain't a way to do this and if it was it'd be a quite severe bug |
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hoodedice |
By modding |
| 12:35 |
hoodedice |
^Forgot to add that to my question =P |
| 12:36 |
sapier |
you could argue about "mods" beeing smarter then core itself, but at least it's not as insane as giving client chance to stop map generation on server |
| 12:37 |
hoodedice |
I am talking on server side; but does this mean that such a mod is possible? |
| 12:37 |
sapier |
no |
| 12:37 |
sapier |
what'd be your usecase? |
| 12:37 |
hoodedice |
performance considerations |
| 12:37 |
hoodedice |
gameplay |
| 12:38 |
hoodedice |
There are usecases for 5000x5000x5000 maps |
| 12:38 |
sapier |
those are just buzzwords |
| 12:38 |
hoodedice |
How about I make a game with 25 always active entities |
| 12:38 |
markveidemanis |
sfan5: does /ctcp markveidemanis BLARG do anything? |
| 12:38 |
hoodedice |
And allow them to roam around and generate the map, as if they were human players |
| 12:38 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 12:38 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 12:38 |
Jordach |
it just shows the ctcp command |
| 12:39 |
sapier |
performance isn't a valid reason as size of map shouldn't have an effect on performance as long as there aren't players all over the map |
| 12:39 |
hoodedice |
^I'm looking at that very scenario |
| 12:39 |
sapier |
but yes adding a mapsize limitiation may be a interesting gameplay scenario |
| 12:40 |
sapier |
hoodedice: if you make those entities this is considered your fault, entity map loading was added with explicit warning not to abuse it |
| 12:40 |
sapier |
was it even added? |
| 12:41 |
hoodedice |
Well, this custom game that I *might* make will heavily use entity map loading, and it is not possible to realise it otherwise |
| 12:41 |
sapier |
and as far as I remember we agreed on adding a setting to force disable entity based maploading by server config |
| 12:41 |
Jordach |
b-b-b-b-b-b-but carts would work properly! |
| 12:42 |
hoodedice |
That's okay - I don't care if the end user breaks the game by messing around with server configs |
| 12:42 |
sapier |
everytime I read "it is not possible to" ... I understand "I don't want to spend additional time on finding a better solution" ... that's true for me too ;-P |
| 12:42 |
hoodedice |
As long as I do it correctly, everything is fine |
| 12:42 |
sapier |
then do it correct hoodedice ;-) |
| 12:42 |
hoodedice |
XD |
| 12:43 |
hoodedice |
I don't even know the zwizzing syntax, and just found out how to define a table. |
| 12:43 |
sapier |
everything else is just hiding bugs |
| 12:43 |
hoodedice |
XD |
| 12:43 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, var = {} and then for i=1, 4000 do var[i]={} |
| 12:43 |
Jordach |
makes a 2d array |
| 12:44 |
hoodedice |
Ik Jordach, sfan told me |
| 12:44 |
Jordach |
bit hax, ain't it :D |
| 12:44 |
hoodedice |
ya |
| 12:44 |
hoodedice |
But is that the only way to define an array? |
| 12:44 |
hoodedice |
Also, how would you call the 2534th value from it? |
| 12:45 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: uh no |
| 12:45 |
hoodedice |
I think you would define if i = 2534; newvar = var |
| 12:45 |
sfan5 |
^ Jordach* |
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Jordach |
hoodedice, var[2534] = value |
| 12:46 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: not you; here's a kitten: http://i.imgur.com/qNBpvF3.jpg |
| 12:46 |
* jin_xi |
has a kitten on the keyboard |
| 12:46 |
* sfan5 |
meows at jin_xi |
| 12:47 |
* jin_xi |
is meowed at a lot |
| 12:47 |
* sfan5 |
purrs at jin_xi |
| 12:47 |
* jin_xi |
pets sfan5 |
| 12:48 |
* sfan5 |
curls up to jin_xi's lap |
| 12:48 |
* hoodedice |
kicks both of the |
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| 12:48 |
hoodedice |
s/the/them |
| 12:48 |
sfan5[Mac] |
meow |
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BerBerM |
ASDASDASDASDASDASDASDASD |
| 12:48 |
hoodedice |
=O mac? |
| 12:48 |
hoodedice |
why?! |
| 12:48 |
sfan5[Mac] |
because compiling stuff for iOS |
| 12:49 |
hoodedice |
ffmpeg? |
| 12:49 |
sfan5[Mac] |
yes that too |
| 12:50 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5 is on a Mackey :D |
| 12:52 |
hoodedice |
Still don't have many followers on twiiter =/ |
| 12:54 |
GhostDoge[Linux] |
yay! |
| 13:00 |
hoodedice |
in a "function (a, b, c)" |
| 13:01 |
hoodedice |
a, b, c are called arguments. Is that just a fancy way of saying "variables"? |
| 13:01 |
sfan5[Mac] |
yes |
| 13:02 |
Jordach |
and they are only local to that function |
| 13:02 |
hoodedice |
so, it "function (a)" the same as "function(); local a == nil"? |
| 13:03 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 13:03 |
sfan5 |
if you call that function with an argument 'a' will have that value |
| 13:04 |
sfan5 |
function(a) print(a) end; a() => 'nil' is printed; a(1234) => '1234' is printed |
| 13:04 |
hoodedice |
ah, so 'a' would be global? Or just local to the file with the function? |
| 13:05 |
sfan5 |
local to the function |
| 13:06 |
hoodedice |
Got it. |
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hoodedice |
bbl |
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[PavelS] |
Hello, all. I have a trouble. I use "local item = clicker:get_wielded_item()" in on_rightclick entity callback and then "item:take_item()", but it don`t work. the item is on it place. What I do wrong? |
| 13:18 |
Jordach |
remove the local part (i've never used locals in my mods ever) |
| 13:20 |
PenguinDad |
what was the difference between pairs() and ipairs() agaon? |
| 13:20 |
PenguinDad |
s/agaon/again/ |
| 13:20 |
* Jordach |
doesn't remember :OP |
| 13:20 |
Jordach |
-P |
| 13:21 |
[PavelS] |
removing locals do not help =( "clicker:get_wielded_item():take_item()" |
| 13:23 |
CraigyDavi |
People of minetest I need your opinion. Fix this, or leave it as it is: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1294 |
| 13:25 |
CraigyDavi |
It was added recently, and I think it's bad |
| 13:27 |
[PavelS] |
May be just add note like "Your message was truncated" |
| 13:28 |
CraigyDavi |
Yes that would be good, I was unaware that other people could not see the whole of my message |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix invalid cast fix resulting in chat messages beeing limited to 256 bytes 5c6cf630de 2014-05-11T15:32:15+02:00 http://git.io/yAiexw |
| 13:35 |
* Jordach |
claps |
| 13:35 |
Jordach |
won't fix my ass |
| 13:39 |
kahrl |
it won't; it's not a proctologist |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Send max number of characters instead of asserting in case of too long chat messages 167df02e3d 2014-05-11T15:39:38+02:00 http://git.io/u0wvOg |
| 13:47 |
Jordach |
CraigyDavi, ^ |
| 13:48 |
CraigyDavi |
\o/ |
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| 13:52 |
Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/IHfRQ-3ZucEs.png :D |
| 13:52 |
Jordach |
nearly done! |
| 13:53 |
harrison |
,04.............WALRUSCH.&.SEELEY.............. |
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harrison |
,04..............Marine Dry Goods.............. |
| 13:53 |
harrison |
,04.....mackerel.repellent..rigging.soffits.... |
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harrison |
,04..cod.ballast..hardtack..brined.victuals.... |
| 13:53 |
harrison |
,04...voyaging.emphemera..semipolar.gristle.... |
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|
harrison was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com. |
| 13:53 |
Jordach |
thank fuck |
| 13:54 |
Jordach |
ShadowBot, ban pl0x |
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| 13:54 |
Tiktalik |
stop that harrison, we like having eyes |
| 13:54 |
pi4 |
harrison: stop with that already |
| 13:54 |
pi4 |
nobody likes that |
| 13:54 |
Jordach |
everyone continue bitching |
| 13:54 |
Jordach |
gives the staff more reasons to kill him |
| 13:54 |
pi4 |
Good morning everyone |
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| 13:54 |
harrison |
.............WALRUSCH.&.SEELEY.............. |
| 13:54 |
harrison |
..............Marine Dry Goods.............. |
| 13:55 |
harrison |
.....mackerel.repellent..rigging.soffits.... |
| 13:55 |
Tiktalik |
better |
| 13:55 |
Tiktalik |
but just stop |
| 13:55 |
Tiktalik |
this isn't runescape |
| 13:55 |
Megaf |
ShadowNinja: Can't you ban harrison ? |
| 13:55 |
harrison |
i only wanted to be accepted |
| 13:55 |
Megaf |
LazyJ: Hi there |
| 13:55 |
harrison |
is that so wrong? |
| 13:56 |
Megaf |
harrison: So don't flood |
| 13:56 |
Megaf |
Just don't |
| 13:56 |
sapier |
megaf don't feed the troll |
| 13:56 |
Megaf |
sapier: I like to live dengousrly (How the heck do I spell that?) |
| 13:57 |
Exio4 |
dangerwjdifusdfgsdf |
| 13:57 |
sapier |
dangerously ... but I'm not a native too |
| 13:57 |
Amaz_ |
Dangerously. |
| 13:57 |
Exio4 |
:D |
| 13:57 |
Exio4 |
hi people |
| 13:58 |
Exio4 |
long time no see ^^ |
| 13:58 |
harrison |
......memehopper.approved.retailer.......... |
| 13:59 |
Megaf |
Exio4: heh |
| 13:59 |
Megaf |
Thanks sapier and Amaz_ |
| 13:59 |
Amaz_ |
No problem! |
| 13:59 |
Exio4 |
when i'm not sure if i spelled a word correctly, i use google translate |
| 14:00 |
Exio4 |
if i translate it back to spanish and makes sense, it must be the wrong word or something |
| 14:00 |
Amaz_ |
(At first I couldn't think what you were saying thanks for!) |
| 14:00 |
Megaf |
Amaz_: heh, well, I hope you do now |
| 14:00 |
Amaz_ |
Yep! |
| 14:00 |
Megaf |
because you spelled it to me |
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| 14:02 |
Megaf |
sapier: today I'm doing some tests with redis database server on a different server than minetest server is running, I hope that will speed up world loading to clients time |
| 14:02 |
Exio4 |
Megaf: where are you from? |
| 14:02 |
Megaf |
Hi Vazon, hows your server today? LazyJ is around! |
| 14:02 |
Exio4 |
(dat english ^) |
| 14:02 |
Vazon |
its great and :D finally |
| 14:02 |
sapier |
Megaf: theroeticaly that's gonna cause a slowdown ... but you'll see |
| 14:03 |
Vazon |
sapier |
| 14:03 |
Megaf |
sapier: Why would it? |
| 14:03 |
PenguinDad |
Megaf: lag |
| 14:03 |
sapier |
network communication is always slower then disk access |
| 14:03 |
sapier |
unless your server was overloaded you'd not have any benefti |
| 14:03 |
Megaf |
sapier: what if disk access on the server is really slow |
| 14:04 |
sapier |
what if disk access on redis server is slow? |
| 14:04 |
sapier |
comparing different disks isn't really what you wanna do, is it? |
| 14:05 |
Megaf |
nope, the disk where mineteserver runs is really slow, and I'm using sqlite |
| 14:05 |
Megaf |
so, I will see if things get better if I use redis server, redis running on other server with faster disk |
| 14:05 |
sapier |
well in this case it's a very very very specific test to your personal setup |
| 14:05 |
sapier |
the result won't be of any worth for others |
| 14:06 |
Megaf |
well, Why would one use redis if not to run it on a different computer? |
| 14:06 |
sapier |
why don't you just put the fast disk in your server ;-) this way you don't have the redis network overhead |
| 14:06 |
Megaf |
sapier: "my case is very specific" |
| 14:06 |
sapier |
ok :-) |
| 14:07 |
Megaf |
to begin with, it's an ARM board, and the botleneck is the Class 4 SD card I'm using as storage |
| 14:07 |
sapier |
ahh sorry :-) should've thought about this :-) |
| 14:08 |
sapier |
btw what's benefit of using a low power arm if you have to run a separate server for database? :-) |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
So there's really almost no lag on CPU side, it just got 6 seconds of IO wait |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
sapier: the separe server will use even less power |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
but with my faster storage |
| 14:09 |
sapier |
well give it a try it's almost impossible to predict what's gonna happen in this strange setup ;-) |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
I think my minetest server is suing at most 5 watts and the new redis server will use at ost 4 watts |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
still lower power usage that an Intel Atom alone |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
than* |
| 14:09 |
sapier |
not sure about that, but it's your setup |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
well, first I'm comparing performance on PC hardware |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
sqlite vs redis on different server |
| 14:11 |
Megaf |
then I will test on my real server |
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| 14:11 |
sapier |
use same settings for sqlite as you do for redis |
| 14:11 |
sapier |
eg. if you run sqlite in sync mode do this for redis too |
| 14:11 |
Megaf |
I will |
| 14:16 |
Vazon |
sapier |
| 14:16 |
sapier |
how may I help you Vazon? |
| 14:17 |
Vazon |
ok so when we did all that stuff yesterday and my minetest version is to 0.4.9dev it broke the mod ServerExtended and it crashes when a new person joins but it works fine on 0.4.9 stable, is there anyway to fix this? |
| 14:18 |
Vazon |
i have used that mod for a long time and i love using it. |
| 14:18 |
whiskers75 |
sapier: you got another mt android build? |
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| 14:18 |
sapier |
not yet whiskers75 |
| 14:19 |
sapier |
Vazon: you still don't have additional error information? can you post a link to that mod and how to reproduce the crash? |
| 14:19 |
Vazon |
that the thing it never gives me one, with any crash i never geta error report |
| 14:20 |
LazyJ |
Howdy, Megaf ;) A bit late, but I'm juggling a few other chat's atm. I hide under a rock for a few days and "boom!" as soon as I pop out. ;)- |
| 14:20 |
Megaf |
LazyJ: Hey there, How are things? |
| 14:20 |
sapier |
ok just write an issue describe how to reproduce and add a link to the mod causing it |
| 14:20 |
Vazon |
ok |
| 14:20 |
sapier |
if a mod is reason for crash there has to be a crash report |
| 14:20 |
Megaf |
It's good to hide under a rock sometimes :) |
| 14:20 |
Vazon |
well where would it be? |
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| 14:21 |
Vazon |
it doesnt give me one in the terminal |
| 14:21 |
sapier |
that's the bug, |
| 14:21 |
sapier |
there should be a report |
| 14:21 |
Megaf |
Vazon: you may change the amount of info that minetest put on debug.txt |
| 14:21 |
Megaf |
debug level option in minetest.conf |
| 14:21 |
Vazon |
megaf i dont get any debug xD |
| 14:22 |
Megaf |
You really should |
| 14:22 |
Vazon |
nope :/ |
| 14:22 |
sapier |
whiskers75: I can't do a android build right now because recent commits to master broke various things |
| 14:22 |
whiskers75 |
D; |
| 14:23 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, it should show the info about the crash in debug.txt |
| 14:24 |
sapier |
CraigyDavi: true .. it SHOULD ... but it doesn't do that |
| 14:24 |
Megaf |
it would if Vazon changes the debug level in minetest.conf |
| 14:25 |
sapier |
no Megaf errors should be there in default level |
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| 14:26 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, try disabling seperate parts of the mod. First check if the se_startup loads |
| 14:26 |
sapier |
actually a mod error should even bring up a error message |
| 14:26 |
Megaf |
sapier: what if he set it to don't write anything? |
| 14:26 |
Megaf |
like, debug level 0 |
| 14:27 |
sapier |
for what I remember on looking at his log yesterday it's default ;-) |
| 14:28 |
Vazon |
ok so there was no debug.txt maby it got deleted or idk but i just created one and added the mod back in so hold on |
| 14:30 |
Megaf |
Vazon: it should be on the minetestestfolder/bin/ |
| 14:30 |
Mimilus |
is it possible to use minenest_next default doors in a mod with minetest game without removing minetest game |
| 14:31 |
sapier |
no he uses vanessae's restart script changeing the log file |
| 14:31 |
CraigyDavi |
What do you mean Mimilus? |
| 14:32 |
Mimilus |
I would to use doors from minetest next just for some doors in a mod but a would like to use old minetest game |
| 14:33 |
CraigyDavi |
Just replace doors mod in minetest_game with the doors mod in minetest_next |
| 14:33 |
Mimilus |
with original doors function from minetest game for some other doors |
| 14:34 |
CraigyDavi |
I think minetest_next still uses the same functions, it should be compatible |
| 14:35 |
Mimilus |
yes but there is sound with minetest next doors |
| 14:36 |
Mimilus |
if a made a local copy of minetest next doors function to a lua file file in my mod folder it doesn't work |
| 14:36 |
Vazon |
-.- i quit... now even when i have the mod turned on it does nothing |
| 14:37 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, try using just se_api and see if that works. then try adding the other mods in the modpack |
| 14:37 |
CraigyDavi |
Mimilus, what's the error? |
| 14:37 |
Vazon |
Craigy the mod not even turning on |
| 14:38 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, is the modpack in the mods folder? Or inside minetest_game? |
| 14:38 |
Vazon |
mods |
| 14:38 |
Vazon |
they all have dependences for each other i cant just turn on one |
| 14:39 |
CraigyDavi |
I haev found the modpacks sometimes don't work when putting them in the mod folder. Put the mod instead into games/minetest_game/mods |
| 14:39 |
Vazon |
what difference does that make -.- |
| 14:40 |
PenguinDad |
CraigyDavi: that's a dirty way :O |
| 14:40 |
CraigyDavi |
Modpacks sometimes don't become enabled when using the GUI. If you place them into minetest_game it means it WILL be loaded |
| 14:41 |
PenguinDad |
Vazon: how's the modpack called? |
| 14:42 |
Vazon |
ServerExtended |
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| 14:43 |
CraigyDavi |
Remove caps. |
| 14:43 |
PenguinDad |
is there a folder called ServerExtended in ServerExtended? |
| 14:43 |
Vazon |
no |
| 14:44 |
Jordach |
wtf AMD |
| 14:44 |
Vazon |
? |
| 14:44 |
Jordach |
>install fglrx >OpenGL 4.4 >Steam reports OpenGL 1.4 |
| 14:45 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, Mods/Modpacks don't work if they haev capital letters in the name |
| 14:45 |
Vazon |
they have before |
| 14:45 |
Vazon |
but ok |
| 14:45 |
CraigyDavi |
Capital letters in mods/modpacks don't work on Linux, they work on windows though. |
| 14:46 |
CraigyDavi |
You transfered server to Linux recently? |
| 14:46 |
PenguinDad |
CraigyDavi: they work on linux |
| 14:46 |
Vazon |
yes...... |
| 14:46 |
* Vazon |
feels no so smart anymore |
| 14:46 |
Vazon |
not* |
| 14:47 |
CraigyDavi |
Does it work now? |
| 14:47 |
Vazon |
hold on |
| 14:48 |
Vazon |
no |
| 14:48 |
Vazon |
it doesnt |
| 14:49 |
CraigyDavi |
Move the modpack into minetest_game. Otherwise, I'm out of ideas. |
| 14:49 |
sapier |
Vazon please try to create a minimum set of mods required to cause the bug |
| 14:49 |
Vazon |
well i need the mod to turn on first -.- it wont turn on |
| 14:50 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, if you put the modpack into minetest_game it will turn on automatically |
| 14:50 |
Megaf |
What's the CMAKE thing to enable REDIS again? |
| 14:50 |
Megaf |
cmake . -LH doesnt always show all options |
| 14:50 |
Megaf |
I don't know why |
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| 14:54 |
Vazon |
ok i got the crash |
| 14:54 |
CraigyDavi |
Ok what's the crash? |
| 14:55 |
Megaf |
"-- redis backend enabled" |
| 14:55 |
Megaf |
And we are ready to rock! |
| 14:56 |
Vazon |
pastebin.com/jaeD3r8j that is all it gave me when it crashed |
| 14:57 |
Megaf |
There's no crash there |
| 14:57 |
CraigyDavi |
Eh? Where's the crash? |
| 14:57 |
Vazon |
exactly |
| 14:57 |
Megaf |
Vazon: disable doors mod |
| 14:57 |
Vazon |
the terminal just freezes |
| 14:58 |
Vazon |
doors mod isnt the problem, its been in there from day one and works fine |
| 14:58 |
CraigyDavi |
aaron seems to cause the crash. What privs are you giving to him? |
| 14:59 |
Vazon |
no its when i logged in |
| 14:59 |
Vazon |
one a new person |
| 14:59 |
Vazon |
hes fine |
| 14:59 |
Vazon |
as soon as it says spawn point it just dies |
| 15:00 |
CraigyDavi |
So it's aproblem with new people joining? |
| 15:01 |
Vazon |
yes and if i remeove the serverextended mod, its fine |
| 15:01 |
Vazon |
and it worked fine till i moved to 0.4.9 dev from 0.4.9 stable |
| 15:01 |
sfan5 |
uhh |
| 15:01 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: why is is doing that? |
| 15:02 |
sfan5 |
s/is it/are you/ |
| 15:02 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, can you check what privs are given to new players in the config? |
| 15:02 |
Vazon |
yes its just shout |
| 15:02 |
Vazon |
let me double check |
| 15:02 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: It's me. |
| 15:03 |
sfan5 |
why? |
| 15:03 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: For repeated flooding. |
| 15:03 |
sfan5 |
ah |
| 15:03 |
PenguinDad |
harrison didn't do anything except being the memehopper :( |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
THERE |
| 15:03 |
Vazon |
ya server extended just has shout just like the minetest.config |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
tf2 works |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
AMD BETA driver ftw |
| 15:04 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, have you set a static spawnpoint in minetest.conf? |
| 15:05 |
Vazon |
yes |
| 15:06 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, go to se_admin_tools and remove/comment out this part of the file: https://github.com/Traxie21/ServerExtended--Unstable-/blob/master/se_admin_tools/init.lua#L169-L178 |
| 15:06 |
Vazon |
i just saw that xD was getting ready to |
| 15:07 |
CraigyDavi |
If you have already set a static spawnpoint you don't need that. And it might cause problems |
| 15:07 |
Vazon |
ya i thought the same |
| 15:07 |
Vazon |
let me try now |
| 15:08 |
CraigyDavi |
If it still causes errors then comment out this: https://github.com/Traxie21/ServerExtended--Unstable-/blob/aea5cc37af42ac6792e7f34de68c5616f781cf44/se_startup/init.lua#L89-L92 |
| 15:09 |
Megaf |
john_minetest: That's nice |
| 15:09 |
Megaf |
I'd like to take a photo like that |
| 15:09 |
Megaf |
maybe on day I will |
| 15:10 |
Jordach |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 15:10 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down |
| 15:10 |
Jordach |
pfft |
| 15:10 |
Megaf |
oops |
| 15:10 |
Jordach |
one fucking time i wanna check if it works correcrlyt |
| 15:10 |
Jordach |
correctly * |
| 15:11 |
Megaf |
23:58:25: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 128 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter) |
| 15:11 |
Megaf |
23:58:25: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 169 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter) |
| 15:11 |
Megaf |
userodroidu2:~/Minetest/minetest/bin$ |
| 15:11 |
Megaf |
yep |
| 15:11 |
Megaf |
just crashed |
| 15:11 |
Megaf |
and with no reason |
| 15:11 |
Jordach |
i'm not even mad |
| 15:11 |
Megaf |
minetest is not reliable at all |
| 15:11 |
Jordach |
i'm impressed |
| 15:11 |
PenguinDad |
!up servercra.sh |
| 15:11 |
MinetestBot |
servercra.sh:30000 seems to be down |
| 15:12 |
Jordach |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 15:12 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (407ms) |
| 15:12 |
Megaf |
Jordach: I'm having issues with world loading time, and that's causing apparent lag of up to 6 seconds |
| 15:12 |
Vazon |
Thanks Crairy the second one fixed it |
| 15:13 |
Vazon |
Craigy* |
| 15:15 |
CraigyDavi |
Great, glad i could help |
| 15:15 |
CraigyDavi |
!next |
| 15:15 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/uV6lra8Wa5Yp.png anyone noticed a broken few pixels to the left of the window? |
| 15:18 |
CraigyDavi |
I don't notice anything |
| 15:18 |
Vazon |
i did |
| 15:18 |
Vazon |
was you turning when you took that? |
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PenguinDad |
eew unity and no |
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FreeFull |
My minetest's debug.log is almost 1GB o.o |
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Vazon |
they get pretty big |
| 15:20 |
CraigyDavi |
Wow thats big, I always clear it out |
| 15:20 |
Vazon |
my was very big in december like 2GB i believe |
| 15:22 |
CraigyDavi |
Rollback logs need to be cleared regularly, when mine reached 5GB you could not rollback without lagging the server |
| 15:23 |
FreeFull |
The fracture mod is fun |
| 15:23 |
Vazon |
fracture? |
| 15:24 |
CraigyDavi |
Fracture: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9175 |
| 15:24 |
Vazon |
that looks like a pain |
| 15:24 |
Vazon |
to navigate |
| 15:25 |
CraigyDavi |
It's actually rather easy |
| 15:25 |
CraigyDavi |
This server uses it: |
| 15:26 |
CraigyDavi |
!server Floatlands |
| 15:26 |
MinetestBot |
CraigyDavi: Floatlands survival server | sfan5.duckdns.org:30005 | Clients: 2/15, 4 | Version: 0.4.9-dev | ping: 0.124 |
| 15:26 |
FreeFull |
It isn't |
| 15:26 |
CraigyDavi |
Well maybe because I used super fast and no damage :) |
| 15:26 |
FreeFull |
I'm not sure how to get saplings though |
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MinetestBot |
john_minetest: VanessaE's mostly-vanilla minetest_game server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 | Clients: 4/50, 43 | Version: 0.4.9-dev | ping: 0.097 |
| 15:27 |
FreeFull |
Leaves aren't decaying or dropping saplings when I break them |
| 15:27 |
MinetestBot |
john_minetest: Onez' Minetest Server | mtzeno.com | Clients: 23/25, 25 | Version: 0.4.9-dev | ping: 0.174 |
| 15:27 |
FreeFull |
The grass looks funny but I like it |
| 15:28 |
Vazon |
i wish i could get my server ip to minerealms somthing :/ |
| 15:28 |
PenguinDad |
!server players:42 |
| 15:28 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: No results |
| 15:28 |
PenguinDad |
!server 42 |
| 15:28 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: No results |
| 15:30 |
CraigyDavi |
Vazon, I could offer you minerealms.24tails.com. But not at the moment as the configoration seems to have messed up |
| 15:31 |
Vazon |
that soulds like hosting :/ i would like to keep it on my computer for the itme being |
| 15:31 |
Vazon |
time* |
| 15:32 |
CraigyDavi |
It's not hosting. All you do is go to a link and then it syncs the IP with the domain |
| 15:32 |
Vazon |
really? |
| 15:32 |
CraigyDavi |
Yes |
| 15:32 |
Vazon |
o ok |
| 15:33 |
FreeFull |
Grar, how do I get saplings |
| 15:33 |
FreeFull |
No decay, no saplings on leaf break, no crafting |
| 15:35 |
FreeFull |
Not even cobblestone, when you mine you get stone o.o |
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* CraigyDavi |
is making a new minetest game called simpletest using the simplepixels texture pack |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
CraigyDavi: rename 'default' to 'simpledefault' |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
and add a "Simple" in front of ever description |
| 15:49 |
CraigyDavi |
Why? |
| 15:51 |
CraigyDavi |
If you are using the game you would be assuming that everything would be simple :) |
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Hunterz |
will be possible add chest and door lock to advanced area protection mod? |
| 16:05 |
Eater4 |
Hm..... |
| 16:05 |
Eater4 |
Possibly... |
| 16:05 |
Hunterz |
now this mod protect only build/destroy node |
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Eater4 |
Idk: ask ShadowNinja |
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Eater4 |
Cheapie |
| 16:06 |
cheapie |
Hi. |
| 16:06 |
Eater4 |
Is it possible to add a door lock to the protection mod |
| 16:06 |
cheapie |
Possibly. Ask ShadowNinja. |
| 16:08 |
Hunterz |
thx i will wait to reply :) |
| 16:10 |
FreeFull |
The waving leaves shader lets you walk through leaf blocks. Odd |
| 16:10 |
FreeFull |
Unless it's Carbone that does |
| 16:12 |
PenguinDad |
FreeFull: it's carbone which does that |
| 16:12 |
FreeFull |
It's Carbone |
| 16:12 |
FreeFull |
Odd, because you can't see anything inside leaf blocks either |
| 16:12 |
PenguinDad |
have you enabled fancy trees? |
| 16:14 |
FreeFull |
No |
| 16:14 |
FreeFull |
I don't have fancy trees |
| 16:14 |
FreeFull |
Oh, wait, I know what you mean |
| 16:14 |
FreeFull |
Nope, I like solid leaf blocks |
| 16:14 |
FreeFull |
I suppose that's it |
| 16:15 |
FreeFull |
Completely forgot that existed |
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PenguinDad |
I personally prefer glasslike or plantlike leaves |
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Vazon |
Eater4 |
| 16:19 |
Eater4 |
Yes Vazon |
| 16:20 |
Vazon |
last night you asked if i own Minerealms when i was afk |
| 16:22 |
Vazon |
mhmm i stumbled on to the old map of my server.... im still depating wether to try to see it its still viable |
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CraigyDavi |
I'm sure people would be more happy if you used the old map |
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Mikerhinos |
hi |
| 16:44 |
PenguinDad |
hello Mikerhinos! |
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sapier |
Vazon: did you manage to get a usefull error message from that mod yet? |
| 16:48 |
Vazon |
its fixed sapier it was just coding errors that dont corrispond with 0.4.9 dev |
| 16:48 |
Vazon |
https://github.com/Traxie21/ServerExtended--Unstable-/blob/aea5cc37af42ac6792e7f34de68c5616f781cf44/se_startup/init.lua#L89-L92 |
| 16:48 |
Vazon |
https://github.com/Traxie21/ServerExtended--Unstable-/blob/master/se_admin_tools/init.lua#L169-L178 |
| 16:49 |
Vazon |
that is what i removed and it fixed it |
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sapier |
Vazon still there should be an error message |
| 16:49 |
Vazon |
thanks to craigydave |
| 16:49 |
Vazon |
no there was never a error message it just froze |
| 16:49 |
sapier |
that's a bug, it's supposed to show up a bug there |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
hi Mikerhinos |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
Mikerhinos, #minetest-fr |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
heyt Calinou |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
-t |
| 16:50 |
Vazon |
sapier this is all the debug gave me at the crash |
| 16:50 |
Vazon |
pastebin.com/jaeD3r8j |
| 16:52 |
sapier |
there should be a telling error message, how are you supposed to find that error? |
| 16:53 |
Vazon |
you cant wit hout it being fixed :| |
| 16:53 |
sapier |
well if we don't track it down now next one has to do same |
| 16:53 |
sapier |
can you give me a link to the code causing the error? |
| 16:54 |
Vazon |
yes i understand and its in the links above, the highlighted area cause the crash |
| 16:54 |
PenguinDad |
<Vazon> https://github.com/Traxie21/ServerExtended--Unstable-/blob/aea5cc37af42ac6792e7f34de68c5616f781cf44/se_startup/init.lua#L89-L92 |
| 16:54 |
MegAFK |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30005 |
| 16:54 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30005 is up (971ms) |
| 16:54 |
PenguinDad |
<Vazon> https://github.com/Traxie21/ServerExtended--Unstable-/blob/master/se_admin_tools/init.lua#L169-L178 |
| 16:54 |
PenguinDad |
^ sapier |
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sapier |
PenguinDad: isn't this te fixed version? |
| 16:56 |
PenguinDad |
<Vazon> that is what i removed and it fixed it |
| 16:56 |
MegAFK |
folks, I need you test this minetest.megaf.info 30005 |
| 16:56 |
MegAFK |
just tell me about delays and lag |
| 16:56 |
MegAFK |
mapgen |
| 16:56 |
MegAFK |
that info really matter |
| 16:56 |
MegAFK |
its just a test case |
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Vazon |
ok |
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Vazon |
well it wasnt laggy megaf |
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MegAFK |
Vazon: I need the max_lag info from /status |
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Vazon |
o i didnt have it sorry |
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Jordach |
git developer protip: don't do git rm -rf foo * |
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Jordach |
!tell BlockMen is there a fixed hud for latest git? |
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MinetestBot |
Jordach: I'll pass that on when BlockMen is around |
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* sfan5 |
meows at Jordach |
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Exio4 |
legit |
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Exio4 |
i'm half asleep |
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Exio4 |
and without realizing i went to #minetest-dev instead of another channel |
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* Jordach |
got up at 1pm today |
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* sfan5 |
meows at Jordach |
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Jordach |
i make cats look energetic :3 |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach uses unity oO |
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Jordach |
>cool game design enviroment |
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Jordach |
PFFT |
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Jordach |
THAT. IS. NOT. COOL. |
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Eater4 |
sapier: do you know where I can get your apartment mod? |
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sapier |
no sorry |
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Eater4 |
You lost your own mod? |
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PilzAdam |
john_minetest, pffff, who needs Irrlicht |
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sapier |
apartment isn't my mod |
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PilzAdam |
plain OpenGL is for the cool kids |
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Calinou |
<john_minetest> unity3d is awesome. |
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Calinou |
nein. |
| 17:29 |
Calinou |
<john_minetest> To prove otherwise, do a tactical, open world FPS (ARMA clone) with great assets in irrlicht. |
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Calinou |
there are other engines than Irrlicht |
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PilzAdam |
john_minetest, how so? |
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MegAFK |
Calinou: rejoin please |
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CraigyDavi |
Eater4, https://github.com/Sokomine/apartment |
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Calinou |
yay, the joys of running two Minetests at once |
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PilzAdam |
[19:28:55] <john_minetest> irrlicht is way cooler than plain OpenGL |
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PilzAdam |
^^ I meant that |
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PilzAdam |
powered by OpenGL |
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* MegAFK |
waits for Calinou and |
| 17:37 |
MegAFK |
other people |
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MegAFK |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30005 |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30005 is up (749ms) |
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Jordach |
john_minetest, i loaded a model in Irrlicht easily |
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Jordach |
i just *didn't* have patience |
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Calinou |
I don't see it in list, MegAFK |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
<john_minetest> PilzAdam: Unity3d is really easy to use. Everybody can make games with it. |
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Calinou |
you do need programming and art skills |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
if you lack one of these, expect to spend tons of money |
| 17:41 |
Megaf |
177.18.177.45:30005 |
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Megaf |
Calinou: well, its there |
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Megaf |
http://servers.minetest.net |
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Megaf |
redis test server |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
john_minetest, *erm* no |
| 17:43 |
Calinou |
non-commercial clauses are crap |
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Exio4 |
how does that matter, it is still shit in its licence and everything |
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Calinou |
^ |
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Calinou |
I was of course not talking about its biggest issue |
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Megaf |
ok, now migrating from redis to sqlite3 |
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Megaf |
sapier: You're right, sqlite is faster than redis |
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Megaf |
world loads faster when using redis |
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sapier |
how is sqlite faster if world loads faster with redis? |
| 17:58 |
Megaf |
however, is just a little faster |
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Megaf |
s/redis/sqlite |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
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* markveidemanis |
has IPV6 |
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Calinou |
world feels slower with LevelDB too |
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Calinou |
so actually, SQLite is not so bda |
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Calinou |
bad* |
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Megaf |
Calinou: sqlite is one of the fastest dbs out there |
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Megaf |
IF well tuned |
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Calinou |
do you use the asynchronous stuff? I don't |
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Calinou |
lol I still have invisible_stone = false entry in my minetest.conf |
| 18:15 |
Calinou |
it's from ~2011 |
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Calinou |
had enable_clouds twice |
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Krock |
hi |
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Megaf |
Calinou: sometimes I just drop my minetest.conf and get a new one |
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Megaf |
Calinou: Ok, now the redis server is running on a raspberry pi |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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Krock |
hi |
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Mikerhinos |
o/ |
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PenguinDad |
/quit Be right back! |
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Calinou |
bye |
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Krock |
wtf? chrome got very nice in the last time..blocks download from dropbox and mediafire |
| 18:50 |
Calinou |
use Chromium |
| 18:51 |
Krock |
chrome = chromium |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: you download blocks? |
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Krock |
PenguinDad: blocks à 2000kb |
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Calinou |
<Krock> chrome = chromium |
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Calinou |
not true |
| 18:52 |
Krock |
whatever I use to 99% original google chrome browser codes |
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Calinou |
and it tracks you 8) |
| 18:53 |
Krock |
that's the 1% |
| 18:53 |
Krock |
!tell Calinou http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around |
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BlockMen |
<3 Iron |
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Krock |
^^ |
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Jordach |
<3 Iridium |
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Krock |
<3 Iod |
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PenguinDad |
<3 Osmium |
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CraigyDavi |
<3 Google Chrome |
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CraigyDavi |
<3 Being tracked |
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Krock |
<3 I see someone who didn't get the I-beginning-rythm |
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CraigyDavi |
<3 Oh |
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CraigyDavi |
<3 I realise I didn't realise |
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Krock |
<3 It's okay now |
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* Krock |
wonders why IE8 crashes after 20s of runtime |
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PenguinDad |
It's IE |
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* sfan5 |
meows at PenguinDad |
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* EvergreenTree |
woofs at sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
flips EvergreenTree |
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* PenguinDad |
slaps Youtube |
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EvergreenTree |
No, you don't flip the woof, the woof flips you |
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* sfan5 |
taps EvergreenTree |
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* woof |
flips sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
taps EvergreenTree |
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EvergreenTree |
quit taken meh syrup! |
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sfan5 |
https://pay.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/259yt0/yo_mama_so_fat/chf6y93 |
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CraigyDavi |
^Is is a bad or a good thing that I don't get this joke? :) |
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Krock |
sfan5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB9QttUKwow#t=1m38s |
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* Megaf |
is about to migrate his server to Redis |
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Megaf |
recompiling it with redis support |
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PenguinDad |
hahaha |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: 10 Arten von Nerds - YouTube |
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Megaf |
Germans |
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Megaf |
<3 Old Opera Internet Suite (AdBlock, Mail, IRC, Web Server, Streaming Server, File Sharing, News Reader, Widgets, Extensions, Sync, Opera Turbo and MUCH MORE) |
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PenguinDad |
Opera! :O |
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Megaf |
The only closed source software worth using |
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Megaf |
16:21:30: ACTION[main]: Migrated 500 blocks 0.0389963% completed |
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Megaf |
That's gonna take sometime |
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Megaf |
soem time* |
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Jordach |
500 blocks, in mapblocks or nodes |
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Krock |
nodes IIRC |
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CraigyDavi |
Probably mapblocks |
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Megaf |
16:24:13: ACTION[main]: Migrated 19000 blocks 1.48186% completed |
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Megaf |
sapier: mapblocks, blocks or nodes? |
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Megaf |
or stuff |
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CraigyDavi |
Blocks = mapblocks |
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Megaf |
so, 1 block = 16 nodes? |
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PenguinDad |
!c 16**3 |
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MinetestBot |
4096 |
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PenguinDad |
^ Megaf |
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Megaf |
I see |
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Megaf |
what about a chunk? |
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Krock |
chunk = mapblock |
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PenguinDad |
IIRC chunk size is configurable |
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CraigyDavi |
Nodes and Blocks, different |
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PenguinDad |
!c 4096**5 |
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MinetestBot |
1152921504606846976 |
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PenguinDad |
okay |
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Krock |
PenguinDad, yes it is before generating first mapblock. |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L390 |
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Krock |
ik |
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Krock |
or in mapmeta.txt in a new world |
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CraigyDavi |
Random screeny: http://i.imgur.com/GSPdNrd.png |
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Jordach |
..is that tower what i think that is |
| 19:44 |
CraigyDavi |
It's this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8932&p=141374#p141374 |
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Jordach |
i'd say there's something missing |
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CraigyDavi |
What's that? |
| 19:44 |
Jordach |
something pretty damn large |
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CraigyDavi |
it's still a work in progress though |
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CraigyDavi |
What's it missing Jordach? |
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Exio4 |
hihi |
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CraigyDavi |
hi |
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Megaf |
hi |
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Megaf |
oh dear |
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Megaf |
17:20:29: ACTION[main]: Migrated 369500 blocks 28.8183% completed |
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Megaf |
17:20:36: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: redis command 'HSET %s %s %b' failed: Server closed the connection |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix old client showing duplicated health bar on new server 6c37e89f08 2014-05-11T22:34:44+02:00 http://git.io/hKtgCw |
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EvergreenTree |
Hi cheapie |
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cheapie |
Hi. |
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EvergreenTree |
Hi us`0gb |
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us`0gb |
Hey EvergreenTree! |
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Ritchie |
I want to introduce my minetest startup script: http://pastebin.com/SWj3Mr84 |
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FreeFull |
Any way to kill myself on the Floatlands server and respawn? |
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FreeFull |
I'm stuck falling |
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FreeFull |
Nevermind, got to land |
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FreeFull |
Very far down though |
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EvergreenTree |
Hi AspireMint! |
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EvergreenTree |
haven't seen you for a while |
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AspireMint |
Hello :) |
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FreeFull |
I wonder why people don't use sneak elevators more |
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FreeFull |
Do they not know about them? |
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CraigyDavi |
You could just use ladders and fast mode |
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EvergreenTree |
sneak elevators don't require fast though |
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FreeFull |
Do you know who invented them? |
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EvergreenTree |
Idk |
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EvergreenTree |
it's just a bug some exploited |
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* FreeFull |
grins |
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FreeFull |
I did |
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EvergreenTree |
no one has removed it though, because no one wants to |
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FreeFull |
On celeron's server |
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FreeFull |
Although I suppose Notch thought about them when he made minecraft, and made them impossible |
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EvergreenTree |
I suppose so |
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FreeFull |
Fast ladders also presuppose you have a lot of wood |
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FreeFull |
And when making a shaft straight down, sneak elevators are better |
| 21:52 |
FreeFull |
Fast mode ladders also make you more likely to take damage |
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Ritchie |
Hi AspireMint :) |
| 21:52 |
AspireMint |
Nazdars :) |
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FreeFull |
Sneaking onto an edge when falling gets rid of fall damage |
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FreeFull |
So you can fall down a sneak elevator and stop right at the end |
| 21:57 |
FreeFull |
I invented the flat sneak elevator first, the corner one came second |
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FreeFull |
I like spiral ones best |
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us`0gb |
The problem with sneak ladders is that they don't work on all servers. They only work on servers with anticheat disabled. |
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FreeFull |
Ah, I didn't know anticheat prevented them |
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SoniEx2 |
can you hotswap mods? |
| 22:04 |
FreeFull |
No |
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SoniEx2 |
damn :/ |
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kaeza |
evenings |
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FreeFull |
It'd be nice if a suicide command came with default |
| 22:15 |
FreeFull |
Since if you get stuck on a server, you can be stuck permanently |
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sapier |
FreeFull: there's at least a mod to do similar thing |
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sapier |
it makes you teleport back to spawn ... better then suicide |
| 22:25 |
FreeFull |
There is a mod |
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FreeFull |
But it's not in default game |
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FreeFull |
So you end up with a lot of servers without it |
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sapier |
true but that's a complain you should address to server owners |
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us`0gb |
FreeFull: Anticheat prevents them from being practical due to them allowing one to surpass the speed limit. So the player is repeatedly warped downward when using them. |
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FreeFull |
Ah |
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us`0gb |
There should be a suicide command by default. Otherwise, people get stuck and have to wait for help from staff. |
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FreeFull |
Agreed with us`0gb |
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us`0gb |
Even my nearly-vanilla game had it due to how vital it is. |
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us`0gb |
That and land protection, though I can see why land protection wouldn't be in by default. |
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FreeFull |
Land protection can be abused, like locked chests |
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shaqb4 |
? |
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kaeza |
?? |
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shaqb4 |
Do a lot of people play minetest? |
| 22:33 |
blaise |
yes, actually |
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shaqb4 |
sweet |
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us`0gb |
FreeFull: Agreed. Locked doors as well. |
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FreeFull |
Unless the land protection is something like "admin gives you land", or "server automatically assigns you land" |
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shaqb4 |
are there any particular features that differentiate it from minecraft and other similar games, or is it pretty much a free version? |
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kaeza |
shaqb4, there are several |
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us`0gb |
Most people who play don't seem to talk on IRC shaqb4, but if you join a good server (try VanessaE's or ShadowNinja's), you'll find other players. |
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us`0gb |
Differences: freedom, an accessible API, multiple game support, maybe more. |
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kaeza |
shaqb4, it's free, it runs on older (and crappier) computers, it's free, it is easier to mod, it's free |
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shaqb4 |
lol, I'm sensing a pattern |
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us`0gb |
Yeah, being free is probably the best feature. Modify it to your heart's content! |
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shaqb4 |
Cool. I'll probably check it out then. |
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sapier |
did someone tell the important benefit about minetest beeing free yet? ;-) |
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VanessaE |
us`0gb: hardly no one plays my servers anymore :-/ |
| 22:40 |
VanessaE |
everyone seems to be going off to other servers now |
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kaeza |
it seems once a new server appears, it gets flooded by new users |
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VanessaE |
(you know how it is, new server, everyone floods it and the rest just sorta languish in the backwaters of the server list) |
| 22:40 |
VanessaE |
yep, ninja'd |
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us`0gb |
VanessaE: They don't? That's sad. Last time I was there there were people, but I haven't had time to build the pull request to bring my client up to standard, so I haven't been on in a while. |
| 22:41 |
sapier |
maybe moving server spawn to some not as crowded location could help? |
| 22:41 |
kaeza |
probably because most of these "users" are banned from everywhere anyway :P |
| 22:41 |
VanessaE |
us`0gb: today's peak, 17 and that's because Zeno's server is down. the other day, it didn't even break 10. |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
and that's the total of 6 servers combined. |
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* kaeza |
mumbles something about a (n optional) centralized ban list |
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sapier |
hmm I wonder if releasing a (compatible) android version to google store would help |
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us`0gb |
Only if there could be multiple ban lists to choose from. Having a single canonical one would be fine, but there should be the option to use others, just like is done with the centralized server list. |
| 22:43 |
us`0gb |
And F-Droid! |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
the problem with a blacklist is getting people removed from it who were wrongfully added |
| 22:44 |
sapier |
and maybe we should get a new official version beeing compatible to servers ;-) |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
think US "no-fly" lists |
| 22:44 |
us`0gb |
VanessaE: Ooh, yeah. Good point. |
| 22:45 |
VanessaE |
sapier: how far from 0.4.10-release do you figure we are? |
| 22:46 |
VanessaE |
(seems to me we're pretty dang close now) |
| 22:49 |
sapier |
depends if we want android support in or not |
| 22:50 |
sapier |
my guess it without android support about 1-2 months (if we focus on fixing bugs) ... with android support ... at least 3 months |
| 22:53 |
VanessaE |
eep |
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sapier |
it's not about coding VanessaE but about testing, you know as good as me different android devices behave different. That's very very time consuming |
| 22:55 |
VanessaE |
true that. |
| 22:55 |
VanessaE |
as today's tests have shown :) |
| 22:56 |
sapier |
yes |
| 22:56 |
sapier |
http://animalsmod.comuf.com/downloads/Minetest-debug.apk |
| 22:57 |
sapier |
anyone interested in supporting android port is requested to test this and report issues |
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FreeFull |
Is there a watershed server? |
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