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WindHero |
hrnn... |
| 01:36 |
WindHero |
really wish you didn't need to compile Minetest manually to test source code changes |
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VanessaE |
I use a script for that purpose |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
it's still manual but at least I don't have to remember 10 different cmake switches |
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WindHero |
I tried downloading the installer for CMake, and my antivirus blocked it :P |
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WindHero |
so trying the source now |
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VanessaE |
jeez |
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VanessaE |
I'd say it's time to loosen your antivirus a little bit :) |
| 01:40 |
WindHero |
maybe, maybe not :P |
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VanessaE |
assuming you were getting it from the right place. |
| 01:40 |
WindHero |
I got it from CMake's website |
| 01:41 |
VanessaE |
are you compiling under cygwin or something? |
| 01:41 |
VanessaE |
I thought it was supposed to just need MSVC or MinGW? |
| 01:41 |
WindHero |
I just starting downloading everything, I'm not that far yet :P |
| 01:41 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 01:41 |
WindHero |
I'll be using Visual Studio |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
I've never built on windows (hell, I can't stand to USE that OS) so I don't know wtf I'm talking about anyway :) |
| 01:42 |
WindHero |
rofl |
| 01:42 |
WindHero |
I'm gonna try looking at the code for cavegen |
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sapier |
http://dev.minetest.net/Build_Win32_minetest_including_all_required_libraries try this guide it's for vs2012 but maybe it still works |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
speaking of mapgen stuff, seen the latest changes to plantlife?> |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
(don't start, sapier, I know it still lags ;) ) |
| 01:44 |
WindHero |
thanks, sapier |
| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
wait, I thought support for visual studio was ...well not exactly dropped but sorta deprecated? |
| 01:44 |
WindHero |
can Minetest compile with Irrlicht 1.8.1, or do I need to get 1.7.3? |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
1.8.1 is fine |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
(at least on Linux) |
| 01:45 |
sapier |
yes works on windows too |
| 01:46 |
sapier |
I suggest following that guide and update versions. once you managed to compile you can update |
| 01:46 |
WindHero |
good thing I have 64-bit :P |
| 01:47 |
WindHero |
VanessaE: yes, I've been watching plantlife, and the speed increases are nice |
| 01:48 |
WindHero |
I actually updated the version used by SkyTest a few days ago |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
I'll try to put sapier's "spread the load" idea into practice soon also |
| 01:48 |
WindHero |
or rather, the plantslib mod, since I haven't included the others [yet] |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 01:52 |
WindHero |
pipeworks, technic, and moretrees were also updated |
| 01:52 |
WindHero |
and just yesterday, TenPlus1's farming redo |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
redo? |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
tell me more :) |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
how's it compare to mt_game/dreambuilder's farming? |
| 01:54 |
WindHero |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9019 |
| 01:55 |
WindHero |
I confess i haven't tried dreambuilder's farming... |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
the one in DB is just the one from minetest_game from prior to the _next merger |
| 01:55 |
WindHero |
but I find this particular version is nice and lightweight, easy to edit |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
so basically it lacks farming on desert sand. nothing special about it |
| 01:56 |
WindHero |
farming redo is kinda like farming and farming_plus rolled in one |
| 01:56 |
WindHero |
with a very, very clean growing mechanism |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
so I see |
| 01:56 |
WindHero |
a single ABM for growing, making expansion very easy |
| 01:57 |
WindHero |
I edited it in SkyTest to allow for growing plants on rich soil from the heaven biome at double speed |
| 02:01 |
WindHero |
thankfully, your MoreTrees mod isn't restricted to certain elevations |
| 02:02 |
WindHero |
so it works right out of the box with skylands |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
actually, I thought I had controlled for elevation too.\ |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
oh you mean the growing-from-sapling ABM |
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WindHero |
hmm :/ |
| 02:04 |
WindHero |
I'll have to test longer... |
| 02:04 |
WindHero |
I could have sworn I saw some acorn trees... |
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VanessaE |
you mean oak? |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
min_elevation = 0, |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
max_elevation = 10, |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
if that isn't working then plants_lib has a bug. |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
now, firs will grow anywhere above 25 meters |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
no upper limit |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
and they have cones |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
might be what you saw |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
spruce too |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
beech, if they're turned on, will also grow at any elevation |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
pines too |
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WindHero |
mmk |
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WindHero |
I'm so terrible how I hardly play my own subgame |
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FreeFull |
I just play watershed and have the trees it adds |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
<Eater4> [00:10:31] ThatGraemeGuy: that mod is screwed up, what system are your running it on |
| 06:17 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
Eater4: running on an Ubuntu 14.04 box |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
is there a better mod for IRC integration? that's the one Google led me to |
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Minetestian |
Lots of people in the IRC huh. Last time I was here there was only like 15 people in here. |
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Block_Guy |
hello |
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Block_Guy |
hello? |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
hello |
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nman3600 |
Hoyo |
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nman3600 |
Hiyo* |
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nman3600 |
Hey john |
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raffahacks |
VanessaE: I've seen your website |
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raffahacks |
;) |
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* raffahacks |
kills a mosquito in this room |
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Megaf |
Sokomine: Hi there |
| 10:07 |
Megaf |
so I will be testing Travelnet on my server :) |
| 10:08 |
Megaf |
some players requested it |
| 10:08 |
Megaf |
john_minetest: Like BASH? |
| 10:38 |
Flipsels |
hmm I can't inmagine C++ being a simple scripting language.. Lua suits fine for me |
| 10:38 |
Flipsels |
non-discussion topic though |
| 10:47 |
Megaf |
I like SH very much |
| 10:47 |
Megaf |
and Python seems to be good too |
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reactor |
sh is marginally good for text processing |
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reactor |
for numbers, it just doesn't do it |
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reactor |
It's probably the biggest kludge in UNIX. |
| 10:49 |
reactor |
And the longest lived one as well. |
| 10:49 |
reactor |
It's so clumsy I'd rather LUA as shell <_< |
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LemonLake |
yo yo |
| 10:52 |
reactor |
щ/ |
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Megaf |
lua as shell? |
| 10:56 |
Megaf |
well, for numbers I read Python is very good |
| 10:56 |
Megaf |
http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaVersusPython |
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realbadangel_ |
Megaf, why not testing Stargates instead? ;) |
| 11:00 |
Megaf |
Oh dear, I may have just destroyed my server |
| 11:02 |
Megaf |
rm -rf is always a bad idea |
| 11:02 |
realbadangel_ |
http://i.imgur.com/xBCHwrX.png |
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realbadangel_ |
gates are nicer imho :) |
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xedp3x |
Megaf: A bad idea is rm -rf / |
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Megaf |
and a backup saved the day |
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Eater4 |
ThatGraemeGuy: unfortunately, no |
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Eater4 |
ThatGraemeGuy: something is screwed up about lua in the packaging district |
| 11:54 |
Eater4 |
Distro* |
| 11:54 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
Eater4: ah, not to worry I got it working, used luarocks |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
added a little bit about it to the readme and submitted a pull request |
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Eater4 |
ThatGraemeGuy: thanks, I am gonna try that |
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reactor |
<_< |
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PenguinDad |
>_> |
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Jordach |
phew |
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Jordach |
thought minetest-dev was minetest for a moment |
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sfan5 |
o.O |
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sfan5 |
also |
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sfan5 |
hi Jordach |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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Jordach |
mew |
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sfan5 |
hi rubenwardy |
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sfan5 |
meow, Jordach |
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PenguinDad |
Hi Jordach |
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ecutruin |
o/ |
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PenguinDad |
A wild ecutruin appears! :) |
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rubenwardy |
^ did my cloaking work then? |
| 13:40 |
sfan5 |
yes |
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PenguinDad |
rubenwardy: looks like it did work |
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rubenwardy |
no quit then rejoin? Good. |
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VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 14:02 |
rubenwardy |
Hello VanessaE |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE |
hey |
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VanessaE |
the cloak worked. |
| 14:04 |
PenguinDad |
Why doesn't IRC have capes? :( |
| 14:04 |
VanessaE |
because they would probably depend on a busted player model format *pokes Jordach* |
| 14:04 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 14:05 |
PenguinDad |
VanessaE: Jordach's b3d model works perfectly |
| 14:05 |
VanessaE |
PenguinDad: with custom non-MC-compliant skins. |
| 14:07 |
PenguinDad |
does it have to be mc-compliant? |
| 14:07 |
VanessaE |
we've been all through this argument in the past. |
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VanessaE |
MC-compliant means the area of the skin that minetest uses for the cape should not appear on the model - it's considered "junk" space and usually has either the artist's signature, or a flat color, or nothing at all. |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
or noise |
| 14:09 |
VanessaE |
about 75% of the skins in my database, nearly all of them from Minecraft-specific websites, are like that. |
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* rubenwardy |
is installing phpBB so he can make a forum dark scheme |
| 14:44 |
sfan5 |
>php |
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rubenwardy |
Why is there no theme folder? it won't let me install it. https://github.com/minetest/forum.minetest.net_template1 |
| 14:50 |
Calinou |
Minetest forum could get translations for forum software |
| 14:50 |
Calinou |
why aren't they installed by default <_< |
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VanessaE |
....3 |
| 14:53 |
VanessaE |
oops |
| 14:53 |
VanessaE |
my cat says hi. |
| 14:53 |
* sfan5 |
says hi to VanessaE's cat |
| 14:53 |
VanessaE |
:3 |
| 14:55 |
* PenguinDad |
says hi to VanessaE's cat too |
| 14:56 |
Calinou |
hi VanessaE |
| 14:56 |
Calinou |
my cat never walked on this keyboard :p |
| 14:56 |
Calinou |
thankfully |
| 14:57 |
SylvieLorxu |
Neither has mine, but I don't have a cat so that may be related |
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* sfan5 |
gives SylvieLorxu a cat |
| 14:59 |
SylvieLorxu |
OMG A CAT |
| 14:59 |
SylvieLorxu |
Can it read files? |
| 15:00 |
* SylvieLorxu |
feeds the cat her Minetest config |
| 15:00 |
sfan5 |
ye |
| 15:00 |
sfan5 |
s |
| 15:00 |
sfan5 |
it can |
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rubenwardy |
Bye all |
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Calinou |
http://www.comptoir-hardware.com/images/stories/_divers/delires/web_browser_war.jpg |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
what, no dig against opera in there? |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
(like sitting on the sidelines along with the others ;) ) |
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Jordach |
some people think i'm plain old rude and mean -- my brother is another example of this: "Shock: liking a status on Facebook doesn’t cure cancer…" |
| 16:54 |
Calinou |
me too |
| 16:54 |
Calinou |
people like attacking each other too much |
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* Jordach |
grumbles again |
| 16:56 |
Jordach |
media keys still don't work outside the steam player, but work in any steam window focused |
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twoelk |
VanessaE: them vines on VEC are really growing all over the place :-D |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
but they're growing where they should, yes? :) |
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ubuntu |
yes hi |
| 17:02 |
ubuntu |
dont m ind me |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
er, hi |
| 17:02 |
ElectronLibre |
Hi. |
| 17:02 |
lolaa |
hii |
| 17:02 |
Guest61320 |
*nobody pay any attention to my mask please. |
| 17:02 |
Guest61320 |
i dont even know how to hack |
| 17:02 |
Sokomine |
rubenwardy: that sounds great! a dark scheme for the forum would be appreciated. white on black is far easier to read than the inverse |
| 17:03 |
lolaa |
woah |
| 17:03 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: you missed. |
| 17:03 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 17:03 |
twoelk |
well one had stopped a waterfall, so I guess they shouldn't grow into flowing water |
| 17:03 |
Guest61320 |
did you know |
| 17:03 |
Guest61320 |
hacking is illegal? |
| 17:03 |
* Sokomine |
says hi to vanessas cat as well |
| 17:03 |
lolaa |
nice mask Guest61320 |
| 17:03 |
Guest61320 |
ty man |
| 17:03 |
GoogleCEO |
dont mind me |
| 17:03 |
GoogleCEO |
just sshing from a google box |
| 17:03 |
VanessaE |
snore. |
| 17:03 |
lolaa |
omg hi im a fan |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
anyone can fake their user host on IRC. |
| 17:04 |
GoogleCEO |
hot you gonna buy google glass? |
| 17:04 |
twoelk |
and some vines stacked horizontally on my poolside tables |
| 17:04 |
GoogleCEO |
VanessaE... |
| 17:04 |
GoogleCEO |
kek |
| 17:04 |
GoogleCEO |
im not even nickserved... |
| 17:04 |
GoogleCEO |
;) |
| 17:04 |
lolaa |
thats rad man |
| 17:04 |
GoogleCEO |
gimme a server/chan to join |
| 17:04 |
lolaa |
woah |
| 17:04 |
GoogleCEO |
and we'll see |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: screenshots please? |
| 17:05 |
twoelk |
oops |
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GoogleCEO |
damn. rude. |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
[18:02:25] --> ubuntu (~ubuntu94.23.148.146.bc.googleusercontent.com) has joined #minetest |
| 17:05 |
GoogleCEO |
What |
| 17:05 |
GoogleCEO |
hacking is illegal |
| 17:05 |
VanessaE |
buzz off, mark or landmine, whichever you are. |
| 17:05 |
GoogleCEO |
what |
| 17:05 |
GoogleCEO |
I just pwned a gbox |
| 17:05 |
GoogleCEO |
so you can be friends with me |
| 17:05 |
GoogleCEO |
:c |
| 17:06 |
GoogleCEO |
all i want is friends |
| 17:06 |
PenguinDad |
This way you won't get friends Sir |
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Mikeonline |
aww |
| 17:06 |
Mikeonline |
hi |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
worst possible way to attempt to get friends. |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
hi Mikeonline |
| 17:06 |
GoogleCEO |
Why :c |
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MarkTh3G0d |
hi im mark |
| 17:07 |
MarkTh3G0d |
im 11 years old |
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MarkTh3G0d was kicked by Jordach: Kindergarten is elsewhere! |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
beep boop |
| 17:07 |
exio4 |
Kindergarten |
| 17:07 |
exio4 |
Kinder :D |
| 17:07 |
Mikeonline |
this is the first time i love object orientated programming :D |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
SORRY. |
| 17:07 |
Mikeonline |
today is |
| 17:07 |
VanessaE |
thanks, Jordach |
| 17:07 |
exio4 |
Mikeonline: how can anyone like that thing |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
fuck you and your non SASL connection |
| 17:07 |
exio4 |
it is a DSL |
| 17:07 |
* Jordach |
uses SASL + SSL |
| 17:08 |
exio4 |
who doesn't? |
| 17:08 |
Mikeonline |
exio: like? |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: screenshots of the vines bug? I'm concerned that I broke something in plants_lib with the recent performance updates |
| 17:08 |
exio4 |
Mikeonline: gimme a usecase of OOP that is nice :p |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: SASL here but sometimes it glitches out |
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exio4 |
VanessaE: SASL + don't connect on fail |
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exio4 |
[off |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, you think google won't go after him |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
near infinite cash vs 1 person |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: yeah but small fish, small prize |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, not really |
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* VanessaE |
shrugs |
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Krock |
[on] /me |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
not you :P |
| 17:12 |
Krock |
why not? |
| 17:13 |
exio4 |
[hug] Krock |
| 17:13 |
exio4 |
:D |
| 17:13 |
VanessaE |
don't ask. |
| 17:13 |
Krock |
[hello] exio4 |
| 17:13 |
exio4 |
;P |
| 17:13 |
twoelk |
VanessaE: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cpDxWnT_1rqm.png <-thats the waterfall stopper |
| 17:13 |
Krock |
the mafia told me the same yesterday, VanessaE |
| 17:13 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: oh, that's normal. |
| 17:14 |
twoelk |
mighty vines then |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: I guess they only look for buildable_to when they grow :) |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
(which water is) |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
however, that's an old part of the map or an old/not-modified version of the vines mod |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
because they're growing from a default tree |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
(in dreambuilder I modded them to only grow from jungle trees) |
| 17:15 |
twoelk |
btw has anybody yet fixed the falling-vines-crashing-minetest issue yet? |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
(but that change doesn't affect existing vines) |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: it's a recursion/stack overflow bug in the nodeupdate() call in builtin |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
it has not, to my knowledge, been fixed. |
| 17:16 |
twoelk |
so we found out, but is anybody interested yet? |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: has this been addressed yet? http://pastebin.com/5KQASaJr |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: not deeply so, apparently. |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
(seems not) |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
I'm attempting to add more fixes |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
comitted |
| 17:21 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/iDOzAa5.jpg |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
got it, Calinou |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
committed again |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
shall I deploy to dreambuilder? |
| 17:24 |
twoelk |
oh well, I'll be of to the annoyingly well working xubuntu laptop and drop some more garden-banks, dog-huts, fishtanks, reeds etc all over the old blocks I keep relandscaping and refurnishing ;-) |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
wait |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: what about the other thing? |
| 17:25 |
twoelk |
uhm vines on tables? |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
the poolside table area? |
| 17:25 |
twoelk |
have no precleaning pic of that |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
damn |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 17:25 |
twoelk |
yeah |
| 17:25 |
twoelk |
under the tree |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
same thing then |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
just the vines growing like usual then :) |
| 17:26 |
Calinou |
jp__ can't join #minetest |
| 17:26 |
Calinou |
he's redirected to ##overflow |
| 17:27 |
twoelk |
yeah, the vines sort of went through the fence-roof, or sideways, don't know and started layering in horizontal stacks |
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jp__ |
ah ! |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
jp__: anti-spam measure. sorry about that. |
| 17:27 |
jp__ |
np |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: horizontal stacks? O_o |
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| 17:37 |
ElectronLibre |
Hmm... I have to register or I will have problem to join the chan... |
| 17:45 |
Mikeonline |
whats the mod loading order? alphabetical? |
| 17:46 |
ElectronLibre |
I think it load first game mods, with depencies. |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
ElectronLibre: that +r is only temporary. |
| 17:46 |
Mikeonline |
i mean the game mod loading order |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
as for load order, external mods first, then game mods according to their dependency info. alpha order otherwise, or it used to be. but that's not always reliable I guess. |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
dependency info overrides all |
| 17:47 |
ElectronLibre |
Mikeonline: Hum, I think default first... and after I don't know exactly... |
| 17:48 |
VanessaE |
(so e.g. default usually loads first even if you have aaaaa_my_mod_comes_first, because there will be something somewhere that depends on it) |
| 17:48 |
Mikeonline |
so the depends.txt is not just a constraint that must be fulfilled to load the server it makes the priority of the mod lower than its dependants? |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
if by "lower" you mean "less important" then yeah |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
whatever it depends on WILL load first |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
unless some other mod is in the chain to load before those |
| 17:49 |
Mikeonline |
if vanessamod1 depends on vanessamod2 |
| 17:50 |
Mikeonline |
then vanessamod2 will be loaded first? |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
e.g. A depends on B, but B depends on C, which depends on D.... all the way down to Z. |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
Z will load first, then Y, then...... A |
| 17:50 |
Mikeonline |
ok |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
that's right. |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
whatever is depended on will load first. |
| 17:50 |
Mikeonline |
vanessa depends on internet |
| 17:50 |
Mikeonline |
:) |
| 17:50 |
Mikeonline |
internet depends on power |
| 17:51 |
Mikeonline |
power depends on mining |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
s/mining/sun/ |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
fuck coal :P |
| 17:51 |
Mikeonline |
mining depends on minetest |
| 17:51 |
Mikeonline |
minetest depends on vanesssa |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
hah! |
| 17:51 |
Mikeonline |
so what will load first? :D |
| 17:51 |
Megaf |
LazyJ: Hi there |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
minetest doesn't need me |
| 17:51 |
Megaf |
How are things |
| 17:51 |
Megaf |
? |
| 17:51 |
Mikeonline |
in a loop ;) |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
it was here before I showed up and it'll be here long after I'm gone |
| 17:51 |
LazyJ |
Howdy, Megaf ;) |
| 17:52 |
Megaf |
LazyJ: whats that mod that provides /go thing on LinuxGaming? |
| 17:52 |
Megaf |
is it integrated to travelnet? |
| 17:52 |
Krock |
^nope.avi |
| 17:52 |
LazyJ |
It's mauvebic's "bookmarks" mod. |
| 17:52 |
Mikeonline |
whats about celeron? is someone working at the core or just "fiddling" a bit? |
| 17:53 |
Mikeonline |
because he quit |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
Mikeonline: lots of people are |
| 17:53 |
Mikeonline |
ok |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
celeron55 is not a core part of the project anymore |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
he's just a dev like anyone else |
| 17:54 |
Mikeonline |
i was afraid that the engine dev progress stopped |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
and he doesn't really do much coding on the engine compared to the next person |
| 17:54 |
Mikeonline |
he is still developing? |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
not really |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
a little |
| 17:54 |
Mikeonline |
but there is a coder who is good in (hard)core engine coding? |
| 17:54 |
Mikeonline |
not just patching and adding mods you know? |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
there are plenty of others working on it. |
| 17:54 |
Mikeonline |
hm |
| 17:54 |
Krock |
ever saw a chief which works 24/7? |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
the engine gets enough attention |
| 17:55 |
Mikeonline |
ok |
| 17:55 |
* sfan5 |
wonders what Mikeonline needs |
| 17:55 |
Mikeonline |
then i dont have to be afraid that minetest will die :) |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
the only thing that will kill minetest is apathy. |
| 17:55 |
Krock |
<minetest> OH no! DON'T! PAM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 17:55 |
exio4 |
sfan5 is a core dev |
| 17:55 |
Krock |
R.I.P |
| 17:55 |
LazyJ |
Megaf, same mod, different name and a smidgin of code updating: https://github.com/LazyJ/destinations |
| 17:55 |
Mikeonline |
sfan5: feature request: saving username/password login per server basis |
| 17:56 |
Mikeonline |
and a dropdownbox for saved usernames :) |
| 17:56 |
sfan5 |
Mikeonline: file an issue on github |
| 17:56 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: Are you leaving minetest? |
| 17:56 |
Mikeonline |
i have to register? |
| 17:56 |
sfan5 |
otherwise I'll forget |
| 17:56 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: nope. |
| 17:56 |
sfan5 |
ot wait |
| 17:56 |
sfan5 |
I'll file an issue |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: that should be an immediate "will code it right this second and push to upstream" feature :P |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
because it's been sorely needed since..forever, :P |
| 17:57 |
Mikeonline |
especially for testing selective creative mode or area protection multiple usernames are needed to test with different privs. so its nice to do a quick change. maybe a su(do) would be cool :D |
| 17:58 |
sfan5 |
Mikeonline: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1566 |
| 17:58 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: nah, I need to print my school schedule first and then I want to write a small DNS server |
| 17:58 |
Mikeonline |
fine |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: hah |
| 17:59 |
Mikeonline |
why write an DNS? |
| 17:59 |
sfan5 |
jdiez> if you can get me a dns server that does it I'll think about it |
| 18:02 |
* Mikeonline |
slaps sfan5 around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:02 |
sfan5 |
no u |
| 18:05 |
Mikeonline |
a small dns for doing what? |
| 18:06 |
sfan5 |
<jdiez> [...] resolve a different IP based on the location |
| 18:11 |
Mikeonline |
geo dns are already out there |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
small, fast and reliable too? |
| 18:12 |
Mikeonline |
i never used it |
| 18:14 |
Mikeonline |
checked out bind, powerdns and geoipdns? |
| 18:14 |
Mikeonline |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_server_software#Servers_compared |
| 18:15 |
Mikeonline |
e.g. gdnsd |
| 18:16 |
Mikeonline |
maybe you could trick a bit with the split horizon function? |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, IIRC thats a duplicate |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
some very old issue exists about this |
| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: please close it then |
| 18:18 |
* PilzAdam |
is not sure |
| 18:19 |
PilzAdam |
can I add a "possibly-a-duplicate-but-too-lazy-to-look-through-issue-list" tag? |
| 18:19 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 18:19 |
sfan5 |
:D |
| 18:20 |
PenguinDad |
that tag is most likely too short :P |
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| 18:41 |
Mikeonline |
tnt voids protection.. |
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kioty |
Is this registered only now? |
| 19:10 |
Calinou |
Mikeonline, not on recent minetest_game or Carbone |
| 19:10 |
Calinou |
use Git instead of 0.4.10 |
| 19:10 |
Calinou |
(or a daily build) |
| 19:10 |
Calinou |
kioty, no |
| 19:10 |
Calinou |
temporary due to spam |
| 19:11 |
kioty |
Ok, I registered anyway |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
it's a good thing to do it |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
name protection, etc |
| 19:15 |
kioty |
Just found myself watching competitve gaming finals, gah |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
must suck :P |
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kioty |
CS looks so fun |
| 19:46 |
kioty |
Actually nah too serious |
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| 19:54 |
Jordach |
kioty, TF2! |
| 19:54 |
ElectronLibre |
What? |
| 19:56 |
Mikeonline |
feature suggestions: add creative priv, so that creative inventory is just available for players with this priv. |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
old news :P |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
there are mods which do this |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
it's not trivial |
| 19:57 |
Mikeonline |
feature suggestion: add reset world command to reset the world to ungenerated. so if you add for e.g. more ores and reset 0,-10,0 & 999,-inf,999 then it works |
| 19:57 |
Mikeonline |
its trivial i think |
| 19:58 |
ElectronLibre |
Hmmm... a long time ago I opened the same map on two ports, and the map was regenerated everywhere I walked :). |
| 19:59 |
ElectronLibre |
There is also /mg_regenerate in mg mod. |
| 20:00 |
Mikeonline |
will this work in an already generated world? |
| 20:00 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes; |
| 20:00 |
Mikeonline |
i want just some areas to be regenerated |
| 20:00 |
Mikeonline |
mg desc says: Note: do NOT use it in an already generated world!!! |
| 20:00 |
ElectronLibre |
Normal, it destroy everything :). |
| 20:00 |
ElectronLibre |
*Logic. |
| 20:01 |
VanessaE |
Mikeonline: a command to delete ranges of mapblocks has already been requested in the past. |
| 20:01 |
VanessaE |
(once deleted from the database, such blocks would re-generate) |
| 20:02 |
ElectronLibre |
But if you want to regenerate the ores, go in the caves, type /mg_regenerate and everywhere anyone will go during around 2 minutes will be regenerated. I don't know exactly how it runs but I think it's that... |
| 20:02 |
Mikeonline |
the problem is: if a world is digged deep everywhere its in DB |
| 20:02 |
Mikeonline |
so if i add moreores later |
| 20:03 |
Mikeonline |
they wont appear |
| 20:03 |
Mikeonline |
or if i just want to reset the damaged underground |
| 20:03 |
kioty |
Anyone know if there's a way to watch livestreams on linux desktop? |
| 20:03 |
ElectronLibre |
Go to the damaged undergrounds and send /mg_regenerate... it's the only way i can see... |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
the proper sites have an HTML 5 viewer |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
the non-proper ones use Flash |
| 20:05 |
kioty |
Ok, just saw a Twitch desktop program for Windows which claimed it worked much better than the site (less memory % and stuff) |
| 20:22 |
Mikeonline |
VanessaE: what happened to the request? |
| 20:22 |
VanessaE |
nothing |
| 20:22 |
VanessaE |
it "died in committee" so to speak |
| 20:23 |
Mikeonline |
how can it be revived? |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
propose it as a github issue |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
or see if there already is one |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
and mention it on -dev later. |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
or even see if you can code such a thing |
| 20:27 |
Mikeonline |
its terrible. after 0.4.3 so much has changed.. iam busy for days :P |
| 20:27 |
Mikeonline |
its good when there is progress |
| 20:27 |
Mikeonline |
but its much todo :) |
| 20:27 |
VanessaE |
there is a lot of progress |
| 20:27 |
VanessaE |
watch the github issue list |
| 20:27 |
VanessaE |
and the commit log |
| 20:27 |
VanessaE |
and the channel chat log for #minetest-dev |
| 20:30 |
Mikeonline |
remember de morgan |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 20:35 |
Mikeonline |
de morgans law |
| 20:36 |
VanessaE |
*looks it up* |
| 20:36 |
exio4 |
a AND (b OR c) == (a AND b) OR (a AND c)? |
| 20:36 |
exio4 |
or was it? |
| 20:36 |
exio4 |
or totally unrelated? :3 |
| 20:36 |
VanessaE |
exio4: something like that |
| 20:36 |
Mikeonline |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/4/8/f484312348ddbea40c3cdc9b18e2f9a2.png |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
I'm familiar with the principle but I wasn't aware of the name. |
| 20:37 |
exio4 |
"not (A and B)" is the same as "(not A) or (not B)" |
| 20:37 |
exio4 |
not really |
| 20:37 |
exio4 |
not (A x B) == (not A) (op x) (not B); with op defined for "AND" as "OR", and "OR" as "AND"! |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
exio4: in boolean logic, those are equivalent. |
| 20:38 |
exio4 |
yep |
| 20:39 |
VanessaE |
Mikeonline: anyway what about it? |
| 20:39 |
Mikeonline |
i went through code |
| 20:39 |
Mikeonline |
changed and and ors |
| 20:39 |
Mikeonline |
and before i went to testing i remembered. |
| 20:39 |
Mikeonline |
:D |
| 20:39 |
Mikeonline |
to check twice |
| 20:39 |
Mikeonline |
again: sleepless coding.. |
| 20:39 |
exio4 |
that should be done in the compiler! |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
never code while sleepless |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
you're guaranteed to fuck up :P |
| 20:40 |
Mikeonline |
the compiler cant check the behaviour i want |
| 20:40 |
exio4 |
in the 99.99% of the cases |
| 20:40 |
exio4 |
Mikeonline: it could! with GHC PRAGMAs! |
| 20:40 |
Mikeonline |
van you are right :D |
| 20:40 |
exio4 |
well, it couldn't |
| 20:40 |
exio4 |
but it could still optimize |
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Mikeonline |
how should the compiler know if i want: exio4 = offline and vanessa = away |
| 20:42 |
Mikeonline |
or |
| 20:42 |
Mikeonline |
exio 4 = offline or not vanessa = away |
| 20:42 |
Mikeonline |
:P |
| 20:42 |
exio4 |
what? |
| 20:42 |
Mikeonline |
i changed the logic |
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* Mikeonline |
calls the pest doctor |
| 20:43 |
* Mikeonline |
put exio4 a pest-doctors-nose on |
| 20:43 |
Mikeonline |
+s |
| 20:43 |
Pest |
such a joke |
| 20:43 |
exio4 |
Mikeonline: algebraic datatypes |
| 20:43 |
Pest |
retard one |
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| 21:11 |
Mikeonline |
btw minetest and its api and mods rock! |
| 21:13 |
Mikeonline |
gn8 |
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| 21:45 |
blaise |
hrmm |
| 21:46 |
blaise |
I'm noticing strange lighting behavior, and visual artifacts.. after upgrading to mesa-10.2.4 |
| 21:47 |
blaise |
:( |
| 21:48 |
blaise |
everything else is fine but minetest |
| 21:48 |
blaise |
:( |
| 21:49 |
ElectronLibre |
:/... Mesa is used for lightning and textures, isn't it? |
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blaise |
Description: OpenGL-like graphic library for Linux |
| 22:13 |
ElectronLibre |
Mesa? |
| 22:13 |
blaise |
yes |
| 22:13 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok. |
| 22:13 |
blaise |
it's fairly important to opengl |
| 22:13 |
blaise |
lol |
| 22:13 |
ElectronLibre |
I see.. very important for minetest I guess :). |
| 22:13 |
blaise |
yes |
| 22:15 |
ElectronLibre |
I remember, a long time ago, I was playing on a survival server and every textures were broken... lightning was buggy... probably mesa was broken? |
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blaise |
eh, maybe |
| 22:35 |
blaise |
could have been a really old server |
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MinetestBot |
EvergreenTree: 08-18 21:47 UTC <Jordach> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5889-TIOV-0207 |
| 22:49 |
EvergreenTree |
!rev !enoyreve olleH |
| 22:49 |
MinetestBot |
Hello everyone! |
| 22:49 |
EvergreenTree |
:3 |
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So I'm at the final step of compiling Minetest on Windows, and now I get an error: |
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Compiler exited with code 9009 |
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any ideas on how to fix that? |
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the error also says something regarding CustomBuild |
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looks like ZERO_CHECK is also a problem |
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'"C:\Program Files (x86)\CMake\bin\cmake.exe"' is not recognized as an internal or external command, |
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9> operable program or batch file. |
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hrmm |
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blaise |
does anyone need any privlages to set up area protection? |
