IRC log for #minetest, 2014-10-02

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00:26	zat	for a drop item in register node, is rarity meant to be n out of 100?
00:27	George_	Hi everybody I built a nice cassel then went mining and lost it lol
00:27	zat	wat
00:28	George_	I lost my castle lol
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00:40	George_	was looking at mintest web page and found this Minetest-c55 is this a new version?
00:43	paramat	no, use the latest stable release from github
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01:44	jojoa1997	Haha I love coding. I turned 40 minutes of torturous lab and confusion in chemistry to 10 minutes of readable research, testing, and execution!
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02:02	zat	for a drop item in register node, is rarity meant to be n out of 100?
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02:09	paramat	zat i think it's 1 in 'rarity' chance
02:10	Zeno`	Depends on which 'rarity' you're talking about probably :(
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02:20	jojoa1997	zat it means the rarity is 1 out of n
02:20	jojoa1997	so if rarity is 20 then there is a 1/20 chance to drop it
02:21	jojoa1997	zat here is an example of it and documentation with it https://github.com/jojoa1997/overcraft_origins/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L248-L262
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02:22	zat	I think in line 255 you meant 1/200 chance
02:23	jojoa1997	XD
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02:23	jojoa1997	yep i did
02:24	jojoa1997	that is what you get for copy and pasting code
02:24	zat	looooool
02:27	exio4	dependant typing would have helped!
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02:34	Zeno`	And here is proof of it: good_rarity = item.rarity < 1 or math.random(item.rarity) == 1
02:35	Zeno`	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/item.lua#L162
02:45	Zeno`	interesting that a chance of 0 seems to always drop the node... might be able to make use of that heh
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02:48	jojoa1997	well
02:48	jojoa1997	you can just not put in the rarity and make it ((drop="node"))
02:48	jojoa1997	also ignore the (())
02:52	Zeno`	but can't this make things drop many items?
02:53	Zeno`	I don't see why it couldn't
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03:12	Fritigern	For all the devs and other coders out there: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UKvea0jUD6k/U9WUaV9sFuI/AAAAAAAANa8/npktRduHe0A/s1600/little_bugs.jpg
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03:21	jojoa1997	zeno
03:21	jojoa1997	Zeno` no. If you want to drop many items you need
03:21	jojoa1997	Fritigern lol
03:22	jojoa1997	Zeno` you need to do it as "mod:item_name #" # being how many will drop https://github.com/jojoa1997/overcraft_origins/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L69
03:22	jojoa1997	that is a good example on how to make random drops though
03:23	jojoa1997	also if you have max_items = 2 that means two of the items in the list will be dropped
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05:09	lamermann	I have a problem with the mobf addon: it will only load while running a windows copy of minetest.. anytime I try to run the same exact setup, world, and mods on my ubuntu 14.04 box, it fails
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05:10	lamermann	i have log files if anyone is interested :P
05:10	kaeza	that could be useful, yes
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05:12	lamermann	how would you like them? lol
05:12	VanessaE	medium, with mashed potatoes and gravy on the side.
05:12	DusXMT	lamermann: some sort of paste service would be ideal, like dpaste.de ; or perhaps paste.debian.org
05:13	VanessaE	(really, use any decent pastebin)
05:13	VanessaE	what ^^^ he said
05:13	kaeza	:D
05:13	kaeza	mornings
05:13	VanessaE	greetz, kaeza
05:13	lamermann	ok.. posting now...
05:14	DusXMT	s/n.org/n.net/
05:18	lamermann	https://dpaste.de/ppgb
05:19	VanessaE	O_o
05:19	lamermann	It doesn't happen when I run the windows version of it.. only linux.. which is a pain as I was trying to setup a server for my students to explore an anglo saxon village tomorrow
05:19	lamermann	and I prefer the linux boxes ;)
05:20	DusXMT	unfinished string near '"return ' - eek
05:20	VanessaE	how old is your Linux build?
05:20	lamermann	If I disable mobf, it runs.. but then the kids don't get mobs to kill when they get to Grendel's mother's cave.. lol
05:21	lamermann	it's 4.10 i believe.. I pulled it from the minetestdev/stable ppa
05:24	VanessaE	give the /daily-builds ppa a try
05:24	VanessaE	see if that fixes it
05:25	VanessaE	I'm out of ideas besides that :P
05:25	lamermann	Ok.. thanks .. :)
05:25	lamermann	It just seems like such an odd bug.. I've googled and googled for it but.. shrug :)
05:26	VanessaE	AH
05:26	VanessaE	hrm
05:28	lamermann	going to test daily build here momentarily...
05:30	lamermann	No good :(
05:30	lamermann	Still same error
05:31	VanessaE	huh.
05:31	VanessaE	I wonder..
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05:32	VanessaE	hm, nope that's probably not it
05:32	lamermann	https://dpaste.de/Tofr
05:32	lamermann	if you want the new one
05:32	VanessaE	hm?
05:32	rickmcfarley	lamermann: Sorry if I missed you already said, but how did you install minetest? compile source, yum, apt-get?
05:32	VanessaE	rickmcfarley: he's using the ppa's
05:32	lamermann	apt-get from stable build ppa
05:32	lamermann	now apt-get from daily build ppa :)
05:32	VanessaE	(so, apt-get, now on daily-builds which is git)
05:33	rickmcfarley	ok, I recently had to recompile
05:34	VanessaE	lamermann: and you're absolutely certain that the exact same mod code and config files, byte for byte, is being used on both Linux and Windows builds?
05:34	lamermann	... not sure it's bye for byte..
05:34	lamermann	but i did reinstall mods manually on the linux version
05:34	lamermann	and try creating new worlds
05:34	lamermann	with the same error :(
05:35	lamermann	i also tried installing mobf through the online repo in the game
05:35	VanessaE	oh, don't do that.
05:35	lamermann	and through the git repo, animal mob pack 2.4 or whatever it is
05:35	VanessaE	use the git repositories for mods.
05:35	VanessaE	https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack and https://github.com/sapier/adv_spawning
05:35	lamermann	ok
05:35	lamermann	lemme try those :)
05:38	VanessaE	the stuff on the mod store tends to get outdated, so rip out whatever you're using and switch to the git repos. be sure you are using a suitable copy of minetest (maybe a daily build if needed).
05:40	lamermann	yay, a new error! :P
05:40	lamermann	https://dpaste.de/hhRC
05:40	lamermann	i'm currenlty on 4.7-dev
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05:40	lamermann	from the daily builds ppa
05:41	lamermann	and i stripped out all the old junk
05:41	VanessaE	0.4.7 is too old
05:41	VanessaE	you have to be using 0.4.10
05:41	Miner_48er	current version is 0.4.10
05:41	VanessaE	(maybe -dev)
05:41	lamermann	that's what came through the daily build ppa?
05:41	lamermann	shoudl i switch to the stable one?
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05:41	VanessaE	er, nbo
05:42	VanessaE	no
05:42	VanessaE	the daily builds PPA is current
05:42	VanessaE	https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds
05:42	VanessaE	ï¿¼ minetest201410020017-0~2995~ubuntu14.04.1Minetest Developers (5 hours ago)
05:42	VanessaE	be sure you're not installing "minetestc55"
05:42	VanessaE	but rather, "minetest"
05:42	lamermann	i see where it maybe went wrong..
05:42	VanessaE	("minetestc55" is outdated)
05:43	lamermann	yep that's it
05:43	lamermann	c55
05:43	lamermann	switching now
05:44	lamermann	4.10-dev, back to the old error: https://dpaste.de/P93R
05:44	dirkk0	oh? I installed 'apt-get install --yes minetestc55' on an Ubuntu 12.04 and it seemed to be a fairly recent version ( with add-apt-repository --yes ppa:minetestdevs/stable )
05:45	VanessaE	dirkk0: nope, last update of that package was back in march. majorly outdated.
05:45	VanessaE	lamermann: this is with git of the two mod repos I pointed to?
05:46	lamermann	correct..
05:46	lamermann	https://github.com/sapier/adv_spawning
05:46	lamermann	https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack
05:46	lamermann	i only modified the -master on the end of the folders
05:46	VanessaE	right
05:47	VanessaE	that's all you'd need to do here.
05:47	VanessaE	at this point you're gonna have to raise an error with sapier :-)
05:47	VanessaE	I'm at a loss
05:47	lamermann	Thanks for all the help :)
05:47	lamermann	Where would I file a bug? :)
05:48	VanessaE	https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/issues/new
05:48	lamermann	Excellent
05:48	lamermann	I'll file it tomorrow (sleepy time now)
05:48	lamermann	thanks for all your help! :)
05:49	lamermann	and I'm loving minetest :)
05:49	dirkk0	but the ppa:minetestdevs/stable is correct?
05:52	VanessaE	dirkk0: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
05:52	VanessaE	so yes.
05:54	dirkk0	k
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06:05	dirkk0	so, after installation, should 'minetest --server' run out of the box, or do I need to install something else first?
06:06	dirkk0	right now it seems to load endlessly 'item definitions'
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06:09	dirkk0	I see on the server console, that I try to log in ('joins game') but it seems to end there.
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06:12	VanessaE	it'll be minetestserver in linux, or minetest --server in windows, but you need other switches to point to the game you wanna run, the world you want to use, and other stuff
06:14	VanessaE	e.g. minetestserver --worldname Survival_World --config /home/minetest/.minetest/minetest-server-survival.conf --gameid dreambuilder_game --port 30001
06:14	VanessaE	short version of how I start my survival server ^^^^^^
06:17	dirkk0	ok, I see ... most of this wasn't mandatory with c55. Thx for clarifying, I try that now.
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06:22	VanessaE	it still isn't, but if you don't specify a world and gameid, what's it gonna aim for? :)
06:22	VanessaE	(and if you don't specify a config, it'll look for minetest.conf)
06:24	ThatGraemeGuy	you don't even need the gameid if its an existing world
06:24	ThatGraemeGuy	i just use --config and --worldname, even the port is specified in the config so --port isn't explicitly needed
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06:25	dirkk0	with c55, I seemed to have some sort of default world ... which changed?
06:25	dirkk0	s/world/game
06:26	VanessaE	the server probably created one. I thought it still did, but maybe something broke.
06:26	VanessaE	BUT
06:26	VanessaE	with really OLD minetest versions, there was only one world
06:30	dirkk0	the server doesn't seem to say what version it is
06:30	Fritigern	I start my server with ./minetest --server --worldname <NAME_OF_WORLD>
06:30	Fritigern	Works great
06:30	dirkk0	k
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06:30	Fritigern	(Running Kubuntu 14.10)
06:31	dirkk0	according to VanessaE it should be minetestserver instead of minetest --server
06:32	Fritigern	What she says doesn't matter. What matters is results. And the result of my line is that it works like a charm
06:32	VanessaE	either way works.
06:32	VanessaE	but officially, it's minetestserver.
06:32	VanessaE	I should know this because I run 8 of them :-)
06:32	VanessaE	(for Linux, that is)
06:32	* Fritigern	thinks that if minetest recieves the --server switch, it automaticaly starts mintestserve)
06:32	dirkk0	ah: 'apt-get install minetest' gives me version 0.4.10 (minetest --version).
06:33	dirkk0	sry
06:33	Fritigern	dirkk0: From PPA or the Ubuntu repo?
06:33	dirkk0	apt-get install minetestc55 gives me that
06:33	kaeza	minetestserver is more suited for headless servers. for regular desktop users, it doesn't matter which one you use
06:33	VanessaE	Fritigern: it probably does, I've never actually tried it, but to start it that way presumes a machine with the client installed to begin with.
06:34	VanessaE	my server machine does not have the client, only the minetestserver binary
06:34	dirkk0	which is what I would prefer, too - headless, just the server
06:35	Fritigern	dirkk0: Please, stay away from the minetest from your distro's repo. It is horribly outdated and may be broken.
06:35	Fritigern	I have learned that the hard way
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06:35	dirkk0	@fritigern from ppa. I forgot to switch the repository according to VanessaE's link
06:35	kaeza	IIRC, the plain `minetest` binary links to X, which is undesirable on headless
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06:35	dirkk0	kk
06:36	dirkk0	so I'll take this one, then: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
06:36	Fritigern	I So, if i understand correctly, it would be better to use "minetestserver" rather than "minetest --server"?
06:37	VanessaE	Fritigern: if your server machine is headless, yeah
06:38	Fritigern	It isn't , i have no yet beheaded my machine :-)
06:38	VanessaE	heh
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06:39	ThatGraemeGuy	diff -u <(ldd minetest\|awk '{print $1}'\|sort) <(ldd minetestserver\|awk '{print $1}'\|sort)
06:39	ThatGraemeGuy	server links to a lot less shared libs
06:39	Fritigern	ThatGraemeGuy: mintestserver, or mintest --server?
06:41	ThatGraemeGuy	the minetestserver binary links to less shared libs than the minetest binary
06:41	dirkk0	cool
06:41	dirkk0	should 'minetestserver --version' be working?
06:41	ThatGraemeGuy	the normal one needs to have support for OpenGL, OGG, etc
06:42	ThatGraemeGuy	dirkk0: works on mine: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rVLPqQSi
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06:45	dirkk0	ThatGraemeGuy: ok, thx. Ergo somethings wrong here. The correct way to add the repo in Ubuntu is 'sudo add-apt-repository --yes ppa:minetestdevs/stable', right? or is there another syntax adding 'https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable' that I am not aware of?
06:46	ThatGraemeGuy	dirkk0: that looks right
06:46	Fritigern	You can leave out the --yes, but that is the correct way
06:46	Fritigern	(as in that the --yes is optional)
06:46	VanessaE	...followed by a sudo apt-get update
06:46	dirkk0	since I run on bash file, I prefer to not hit enter :-)
06:46	dirkk0	yes
06:46	ThatGraemeGuy	although i build from the source, so perhaps mine behaves differently from the PPA version
06:47	dirkk0	ah - would you mind to share the 'build' snippet?
06:47	Fritigern	dirkk0: Perhaps this could come in useful for you? http://pastebin.com/D0d6hJU2
06:48	ThatGraemeGuy	https://github.com/minetest/minetest, instructions for building are in the readme
06:48	ThatGraemeGuy	instead of downloading the zip though, i git clone the repo for minetest and minetest_game
06:48	dirkk0	k thx
06:48	dirkk0	hmpf: http://pastebin.com/xUMjWT8w
06:50	dirkk0	I'll try to build now
06:53	dirkk0	what is the current version, btw?
06:53	ThatGraemeGuy	0.4.10
06:54	dirkk0	o...kay? Fun fact: if I do 'apt-get install minetesstc55', I'll get the 0.4.10 ...
06:54	dirkk0	-s
06:55	ThatGraemeGuy	yup
06:57	dirkk0	then - sorry for the bandwidth, I was under the impression that one shouldn't install minetestc55, because it is outdated. Turns out, it is the current version.
06:57	ThatGraemeGuy	yes the PPA returned to using "minetestc55" as the package name as of 0.4.10
06:57	ThatGraemeGuy	not sure what the reason for the change was
06:58	dirkk0	I see. Nevertheless it might be useful to do a full build, to be able to test development versions, maybe?
06:59	ThatGraemeGuy	yes. not so much now but as time goes by the stable version becomes more outdated and the chance that mods will start breaking increases
07:00	ThatGraemeGuy	just before 0.4.10 went stable there were several popular mods that just couldn't work with 0.4.9
07:00	ThatGraemeGuy	if you don't want to build it yourself you can also switch to the daily build PPA
07:01	dirkk0	your diff line is awesome, btw :-)
07:03	dirkk0	I don't have a problem building it. The way I do it right now, is that I create a new ec2 instance everytime, so that I am sure that I have fresh installation. It then either installs the server components or builds them. The latter takes a bit longer but that doesnt really matter.
07:04	dirkk0	thx for your help @all
07:05	ThatGraemeGuy	dirkk0: its a bash thing, called process substitution and yes, it is awesome :)
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07:40	dirkk0	the build worked. great.
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08:11	kilbith	from the latest -dev release (today), each time that you enter in a new world, it shows : ERROR[main]: ServerMap::loadMapMeta(): could not open/home/jp/.minetest/worlds/testworld/map_meta.txt
08:12	kilbith	no additionnal mods enabled
08:12	pitriss	VanessaE: If you are around.. I found you have cloned steel mod.. Please do you have also steel shingles textures? Idk from where they popped but on landrush server there are steel:shingle blocks as unknown ones..
08:12	kaeza	kilbith, does that file exist?
08:12	kilbith	yes
08:12	kilbith	i checked
08:13	VanessaE	pitriss: I have my own fork of steel mod, but I don't recall a steel shingles. there are, however, steel slopes I think. maybe that's what you're thinking of?
08:13	sfan5	kilbith: can confirm, it still works though
08:13	* kaeza	pets sfan5
08:13	VanessaE	pitriss: that mod does use the raillike draw type though, which looks like shingles on a roof
08:13	sfan5	and the file exists because it is created
08:14	* sfan5	purrs at kaeza
08:14	kilbith	it works yes, but don't know why show an error
08:15	pitriss	VanessaE: i see but that roofing cant do corners.. and It doesn't solve my issue.. I want recreate original blocks to keep buildings using in original state.:)
08:17	VanessaE	pitriss: I'm not sure I understand, but the only relation I have with the steel mod is https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-steel
08:17	kilbith	should I open an issue on Git, sfan5 ?
08:17	VanessaE	checks commits
08:17	sfan5	kilbith: might be a good idea
08:17	kilbith	ok
08:18	VanessaE	I don't notice a slope option, so a pull request is welcome there
08:18	Megaf_	Hi VanessaE, how are you
08:18	Megaf_	?
08:18	VanessaE	hi Megaf_
08:18	VanessaE	I'm ok
08:18	kilbith	hi Megaf_
08:18	Megaf_	VanessaE: I'm looking for that file with example to make soemthing to be compatible with pipeworks
08:18	Megaf_	Hey kilbith
08:19	Megaf_	ah, that's better
08:19	VanessaE	Megaf_: in the pipeworks mod, file compat.lua shows some basic usage as well as how to redefine another mod's nodes (you have to soft-depend on the other mod in question if you redefine its stuff)
08:20	pitriss	VanessaE: okay.. I will try to explain.. I'm trying to clean up land rush.. and I found there are used blocks like steel:shingle_outer_corner and so on.. so I guess standard shingles as they are provided by homedecor mod.. But I can't find its code, textures etc.. So I wanted to know if you don't have textures for them:)
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08:21	VanessaE	AHH
08:21	Megaf_	VanessaE: Thank you
08:21	VanessaE	I don't know what provides those nodes. they are not part of the homedecor mod I don't think, but it DOES have those functions
08:21	VanessaE	the repository I pointed you to has the textures.
08:22	VanessaE	the code is in homedecor/slopes.lua
08:23	Megaf_	Please, I need help with this https://github.com/Megaf/more_chests/issues/5 in my more_chests mod
08:23	Megaf_	!title
08:23	pitriss	VanessaE: yes it seems as they was part of old steel mod.. but this code is lost for good as it seems:/
08:23	MinetestBot	Megaf_: Help needed on making it compatible with pipeworks. Â· Issue #5 Â· Megaf/more_chests Â· GitHub
08:23	VanessaE	pitriss: take a look in homedecor, file slopes.lua
08:23	pitriss	VanessaE: okay.. so i will try to recreate them using corrugated_steel.png
08:23	VanessaE	that may be the code you want
08:24	pitriss	VanessaE: yes i know how tro use that function:)
08:24	* Fritigern	is confused about stairsplus
08:24	VanessaE	heh ok
08:24	pitriss	VanessaE: Thing I'm not sure about is textures.. Homedecor shingles are using more than one texture:D
08:25	pitriss	VanessaE: but I will try it with one texture and I will see.. Thank you
08:25	VanessaE	pitriss: they only use multiple textures because I needed to make sure they align correctly with the raillike shingles
08:25	VanessaE	you can get by with one texture
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08:26	pitriss	VanessaE: Ohh nice.. Ok so I'm going to try that:) thank you
08:27	Fritigern	Wasn't stairsplus (the one inclused with moreblocks) supposed to add stairs, microblocks, etc? I mean, not only the recipe, but findable in unified inventory?
08:27	Megaf_	CraigyDavi`: https://github.com/Megaf/more_chests/issues/3#issuecomment-57596277
08:27	Fritigern	*included
08:28	VanessaE	Fritigern: no
08:28	VanessaE	Fritigern: use a circular saw to get them
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08:28	Fritigern	I'm in creative mode, the point of creative mode IMO is to not having to craft stuff
08:29	jp_	moreblocks stairsplus stuff represents thousands of items...
08:29	VanessaE	Fritigern: there are far too many items to put it all in the inventory
08:30	VanessaE	Fritigern: but maybe you can convince Calinou to add a config option for that
08:30	jp_	Calinou said about 1500 items iirc
08:31	Fritigern	How trivial is it to make a node (any node, not only the ones from stairsplus) appear in inventory?
08:31	VanessaE	jp_: I would guess closer to 5'000 items in Dreambuilder.
08:31	jp_	wow
08:31	ThatGraemeGuy	VanessaE: how hard would it be to add support to filter by item string for pipeworks' sorting tubes?
08:31	VanessaE	Fritigern: a node always appears in the inventory unless you explicitly remove it with groups = {not_in_creative_inventory = 1} in its node def.
08:32	VanessaE	ThatGraemeGuy: I'm not sure really, you'd have to ask nore about that.
08:32	Fritigern	VanessaE: I see, and this is what happened with stairsplus, correct?
08:32	ThatGraemeGuy	ok cool
08:34	VanessaE	Fritigern: yep, because if it didn't, Unified Inventory would for example have 143 pages in Dreambuilder instead of the current 22 pages.
08:34	VanessaE	er 144 pages.
08:34	Fritigern	I stil would like to see what it would look like on my own system. :-)
08:37	ThatGraemeGuy	Fritigern: https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreblocks/source/6501336d86f2f55d9c7af1869b461cd9e7891ad7:stairsplus/init.lua#L16, looks like there's a config setting for moreblocks that you can enable
08:37	Fritigern	OOH! Found it!
08:39	jp_	you will be very lost in your invo then...
08:39	VanessaE	ah, I didn't realize he had added that setting
08:39	Fritigern	Hehehe, 59 pages now. WHEE! :-)
08:40	Fritigern	(was 23 pages, so not all that bad.... yet :-))
08:40	jp_	more pages doesn't mean better...
08:41	Fritigern	And now i have also found a type of block that i had hope was there
08:41	Fritigern	I just could never figure out how to make it
08:41	Fritigern	So for me, this definitely is better
08:41	VanessaE	what game are you playing?
08:42	Fritigern	I am compiling my own, based on minetest_game, got some technic mixed in and hunted down some mods that seemed interesting ;-)
08:42	VanessaE	oh ok
08:42	Fritigern	Compiling as in "putting together"
08:42	sfan5	Jordach: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/p4J2aF1i-ybl.png
08:43	Jordach	mmmm
08:43	Jordach	borderless windows
08:43	sfan5	there's 1px border
08:43	Jordach	that feels good to look at
08:43	Jordach	>1px
08:43	Fritigern	Also working on a server, but will set stairsplus_in_creative_inventory back to false before going public
08:43	Jordach	inviible at 4k ;3
08:43	sfan5	:3
08:44	Jordach	and this new mouse is fucking glorious
08:44	Jordach	oh yes
08:45	Fritigern	Aw, too bad. Stairsplus does not recognise the bricks from unifiedbicks. I thought 59 pages was a little meager ;-)))))
08:46	* Fritigern	is so amused :-)
08:46	Jordach	build with all the things
08:46	Fritigern	I will do my best ;-))
08:47	sfan5	Jordach: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/5sNNKkKxPVT3.png
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08:47	Jordach	dat OpenGL
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08:48	sfan5	windows only provides opengl 1.1 by default
08:49	VanessaE	bbl
08:49	* Jordach	saw a nice looking sunrise this morning
08:49	dirkk0	@sfan5 just curious - are you working with the german version?
08:50	sfan5	dirkk0: there is no german version of win 10 tp, but I set my location to Germany so it uses the German translations in MT
08:50	Jordach	TIL
08:50	Jordach	sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DV0vnYcN5NA8.jpg
08:51	sfan5	kinda looks like an oil painting
08:51	sfan5	if you look close
08:51	sfan5	maybe thats just the jpeg
08:51	Jordach	can confirm is jpeg https://cdn.mediacru.sh/fqEzzd5dVPR9.jpg
08:51	dirkk0	oh this is win10? didn't know it exists yet. thx.
08:52	sfan5	dirkk0: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso
08:52	Jordach	sfan5, i'd love to use it
08:52	Jordach	but i'd eventually want a real windows key :P
08:52	Jordach	for said version
08:52	sfan5	Jordach: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=510225 << there
08:53	sfan5	for me it displays a product key for the tp version on that page
08:53	sfan5	but I heard it's only valid until april 15th
08:53	* Jordach	installs it under VMWare
08:53	Jordach	don't want to fuck with my system just yet
08:53	sfan5	:p
08:54	dirkk0	(the german satire site Der Postillion just voted Windows 9 as the best OS ever :D )
08:54	Jordach	i'll actually do a full upgrade when it finishes
08:54	kahrl	oh man, all the time I thought tp = texture pack
08:54	Jordach	and is released :3
08:54	kahrl	someone, make a windows 10 texture pack, quick!
08:55	* sfan5	votes that kahrl does that
08:55	Jordach	OCD by FVDisco could work :3
08:55	sfan5	*ooh
08:55	sfan5	correct sha1
08:55	sfan5	I mean
08:55	sfan5	what did I expect
08:55	Jordach	mlp porn
08:56	sfan5	D:
08:56	Jordach	( Í¡Âº ÍœÊ– Í¡Âº)
08:56	sfan5	( Í¡Â° ÍœÊ– Í¡Â°)
08:56	sfan5	(ãƒŽà² ç›Šà² )ãƒŽå½¡â”»â”â”» Jordach
08:57	* Jordach	got angry yesterday
08:57	Jordach	STILL NOT FUCKING DEAD https://cdn.mediacru.sh/FimMUypOvImB.jpg
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09:00	sfan5	Jordach: does your phone even jpeg oil painting?
09:02	Jordach	nope
09:02	Jordach	Nokia Lens probably does, (it's 5MP without flash)
09:03	* Jordach	just had a shower thought
09:04	Jordach	"Computer porn is just a 1 inside of a 0"
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09:04	Jordach	also: nice job with free universities
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09:09	JamesTait	Good morning all; happy World Farm Animals Day! :-D
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09:35	Fritigern	VanessaE: I know you are AFk, but i seem to have an issue with the spiderwebs from Homedecor. I wanted to use them so they would resemble smoke from a distance, and the first one can be placed just fine, but the all consecutive ones look just 2D. I don't think that this is intentional, so i figured i'd mention it.
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09:37	Fritigern	A little more info. Aparrently the webs can be placed on top of eachother, but if i try to place one on one of the sides, it will be flat
09:37	rickmcfarley	Fritigern: have you tried rotating them with the screwdriver?
09:37	Fritigern	How is that going to fix 2D-ness?
09:38	rickmcfarley	*shrug I thought it might change the way it looked
09:38	Fritigern	It just rotates the flat node
09:39	rickmcfarley	I was hoping it could rotate it so it looked like vertical smoke
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09:47	MinetestBot	[Git] BlockMen -> minetest/minetest: Add optional framed glasslike drawtype f48f686 http://git.io/uIl_uA (2014-10-02T11:35:15+02:00)
09:48	* Jordach	top keks https://i.imgur.com/hzwtoaK.jpg
09:52	MinetestBot	[Git] BlockMen -> minetest/minetest_game: Use new optional framed glasslike drawtype 7f44a49 http://git.io/9pClnQ (2014-10-02T11:51:47+02:00)
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09:58	Jordach	hai der kaeza
09:59	kaeza	sup
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10:01	Jordach	new gaming mouse
10:02	Jordach	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/fqEzzd5dVPR9.jpg
10:13	jp_	Zeno`, relative to that : https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1707 could you allow the right-click for select one or several items, and move them with a long-pushed left/right click ?
10:13	jp_	like a file manager
10:15	Zeno`	move several items?
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10:16	Zeno`	it's not a file manager, it's a UI
10:16	Zeno`	I don't understand what you mean though
10:16	Zeno`	jp_ ^
10:17	jp_	yes, right-click on a item : his background case become darker (for example), that's mean it's selected
10:17	jp_	you can do that with several items
10:17	Zeno`	sounds a bit complicated
10:18	jp_	and when you maintain the right or the left click, you can move all the selected items in one time
10:18	Zeno`	all of the file managers and UIs I know of require you to hold some kind of modifier key to be held as well to select multiple items
10:19	jp_	you got the idea ;)
10:19	Zeno`	nah, I don't think that's necessary
10:19	jp_	whatever keys are set...
10:19	Zeno`	my change is just to fix strange behaviour of a previous commit anyway
10:20	jp_	when you have to move plenty of items, it can be necessary
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10:20	Zeno`	I can see where it would be useful, but the current code needs refactoring before I'd even attempt that
10:21	Zeno`	then again, it's not that useful
10:21	ninnghazad	o/
10:22	Zeno`	the only place I can see it being useful is for moving stuff to chests
10:22	Zeno`	and then the items are in the same dialog anyway so there is no real advantage for multi-item selection vs. move then individually
10:22	jp_	if you have a messy inventory and you need to move some scattered items, for example
10:23	Zeno`	possibly. Let's get fix merged first
10:23	Zeno`	this fix*
10:23	jp_	hm, ok
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10:31	ninnghazad	anybody else noticed that minetest.* functions that rely on getScriptApiBase do not work properly when called from a coroutine within lua? wondering if this might be intentional
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10:32	ninnghazad	getScriptApiBase returns a different stack (?) when called from a coroutine, and that seems to mess up the functions, as they read/write on the wrong indices then.
10:34	Zeno`	I don't think they're re-entrant
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10:35	Zeno`	so the Lua stack is modified and the "coroutine" sees the modified Lua stack
10:36	Zeno`	e.g. if one thread calls the function something might be pushed/popped to the lua stack, so when another thread that calls that same function (before the previous one has finished) the stack will be all messed up
10:36	Zeno`	you could check in #minetest-dev but I'm guessing that's what the issue is
10:37	dirkk0	is there an equivalent to the minecraft server 'say' command in minetestserver? Probably not, because there is no interactive console?
10:39	Zeno`	I don't think there is but making a mod should be easy enough
10:40	ninnghazad	hm, i thought coroutine have own exec-stacks in luajit's coco. the stack seems fine when it come in the c-function, but is messed after getScriptApiBase. hmhm, imma ask further in minetest-dev
10:44	dirkk0	k thx
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10:48	Zeno`	dirkk0, http://codepad.org/mYuVoJsV
10:48	Zeno`	that will probably work
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10:52	dirkk0	@Zeno`nice, thanks!
10:52	Zeno`	no problem. Make sure you test it though ;)
10:55	dirkk0	I will. :-)
10:57	Fritigern	I was wondering, is there any mod at all that would add a node, comparable to netherrack? I need something that i set on fire and that will keep burning without spreading.
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11:06	Jordach	!tell Krock my VM of Windows 10 runs Minetest in OpenGL at 41fps, your move: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/vTFbWjd93ARW.png
11:06	MinetestBot	Jordach: I'll pass that on when Krock is around
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11:31	jojoa1997	Hi
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12:34	Broam	Jordach: TIL Windows 10 supports a lower OpenGL version than Debian Stable
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12:40	Jordach	Broam, it's when you don't have a driver installed
12:41	Megaf_	Hi everyone, I updated my mod more_chests so it can now connect to VanessaE's pipeworks mod!
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12:48	Broam	Jordach: OOTB then.
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13:04	dirkk0	who is maintaining the minetest wiki? because the captchas wont work much longer: http://goo.gl/LmuzDY
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13:34	Jordach	!tell Calinou [14:04:22] <dirkk0> who is maintaining the minetest wiki? because the captchas wont work much longer: http://goo.gl/LmuzDY
13:34	MinetestBot	Jordach: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around
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13:41	vitalie	hi, room
13:42	raffahacks	Hi
13:42	shadowzone	Hi.
13:43	vitalie	Sorry to bother yall with a noob question, but... how does one move a furnace?
13:43	Amaz	hi, chair
13:43	Amaz	Make sure it's empty, then dig it with a pickaxe.
13:43	vitalie	It's empty. Wooden pickaxe doesn work :(
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13:44	shadowzone	Use a stone one.
13:44	vitalie	Done! Thank you!!!
13:45	shadowzone	Your welcome.
13:46	raffahacks	I get the error image not found for many image names that begin with technic (wild guess: do they belong to technic mod? :) ), do you get it too?
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14:05	otto__	hi im searching for an minecraft alternative after the microsoft deal.. so is this a moddable, still active, linuxfriendly game?
14:06	Amaz	Yep to all of those counts!
14:06	otto__	very cool
14:07	otto__	i read that this is dwarf fortress like. how?
14:07	* Amaz	passes
14:07	otto__	k
14:09	Amaz	SOmeone will know, just wait for a bit..
14:09	otto__	ok ty
14:09	otto__	and i have fedora, if i install this with yum do i always get the newest version or is it somewhat delay?
14:09	otto__	~d
14:10	Amaz	Best to complie yourself.
14:10	Amaz	Very easy.
14:10	otto__	but i would have to do this after evry version..
14:11	diemartin	otto__, if you use git to clone, the compilation is incremental (i.e. you only need to compile changed files)
14:12	otto__	ill take a try
14:12	diemartin	also what john said
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14:15	kaeza	to hell with this thing
14:15	otto__	git pull http://github.com/minetest/minetest.git --- fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
14:15	otto__	im new to this..
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14:16	kaeza	otto__, the first time, you do git clone https://...
14:16	otto__	ok
14:16	kaeza	then to update, you simply "git pull" in the root `minetest` dir
14:16	Jordach	kaeza, what's wrong
14:16	kaeza	Jordach, modem
14:17	Jordach	kaeza, good news: borderlands 2 + presequel now support Linux
14:17	kaeza	as always
14:17	kaeza	Jordach, :O
14:17	kaeza	Jordach, I have BL2 for Win; my PC is not enough :<
14:17	kaeza	actually, the gfx card
14:18	kaeza	crappy Intel GMA
14:18	kaeza	...that can run BL 1 nonetheless
14:19	Jordach	kaeza, i removed the outlines, celshading and other materials for frame rate boosts
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14:20	Jordach	now, if only i could give kaeza a loving GTX670
14:20	kaeza	it could help if it at least ran up to the config menu...
14:21	Jordach	32mins for the DLC to finish
14:21	Jordach	GODDAMNIT
14:21	Jordach	pls BT gib fibar
14:21	otto__	.. there is no make only cmake. sould i use this? with root?
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14:22	kaeza	otto__, definitely no
14:22	ninnghazad	no you build as user. like "cmake ./" in minetest directory.
14:22	ninnghazad	then compile with "make", and finally if all worked well, you can install as root like so "sudo make install"
14:22	kaeza	otto__, you don't have `make`? O_o
14:23	otto__	i have make but theres only a cmake file in the minetest dir
14:23	kaeza	ah
14:23	otto__	oh its a dir too -.-
14:23	ninnghazad	...
14:23	Jordach	kaeza, with Lua, how would i get the size of a png file
14:23	kaeza	Jordach, see signs_lib
14:24	Jordach	eg, 16x16
14:24	Jordach	kaeza, i just supported MC 1.8 skins
14:24	Fritigern	otto__: If you are using Linux, then perhaps this script could be useful to you: http://pastebin.com/D0d6hJU2
14:24	kaeza	Jordach, https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/blob/master/signs_lib/init.lua#L140
14:24	Amaz	Jordach, does that mean that BFD will get armor?
14:25	Jordach	Amaz, nope
14:25	Jordach	just player customised skins
14:25	Amaz	Okay.
14:25	Jordach	kaeza, i'm not understanding of what the fuck you're using
14:26	otto__	Fritigern: ty
14:26	Jordach	the only value that changed between the two formats is 64x32 -> 64^2
14:26	kaeza	Jordach, seek to 0x13, read a byte, that is the width, seek to 0x17, read a byte, that is the height
14:27	Fritigern	otto__: Also read the comments in the script. It contains important stuff
14:27	kaeza	(intentionally left simple, because nobody in their right mind would use fonts > 256px in size)
14:27	kaeza	>=*
14:27	Fritigern	That would imply that i would do that! :-)
14:27	otto__	Fritigern: yeah
14:29	Jordach	kaeza, it also uses PilzAdam's player_textures
14:29	pitriss	hi please is there any item pickup mod which still allows to drop item on the ground?
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14:30	Fritigern	pitriss: This one, perhaps? http://pastebin.com/D0d6hJU2
14:30	Fritigern	Oops
14:30	Fritigern	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9638
14:30	Fritigern	(stupid clipboard, can't even read my mind....)
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14:32	Jordach	kaeza, why return it as byte
14:32	kaeza	Jordach, read() returns a string of len 1, :byte() returns integer
14:33	kaeza	what do you need PNG size for?
14:34	George	what Games should I download for an arch based os?
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14:41	otto__	cmake said thet sound wont work..
14:41	otto__	that
14:42	ninnghazad	otto__: you need to install libopenal-dev (and probably others)
14:42	otto__	wont he install this automatic?
14:43	pitriss	Fritigern_AFK: thanks I will try that
14:44	otto__	ninnghazad: there is no libopenal-dev
14:44	ninnghazad	otto__: no, when building from source it does not do anything with your system automatically - you need to install what is needed.
14:44	Jordach	kaeza, http://paste.debian.net/124174/
14:44	otto__	ninnghazad: ok..
14:44	ninnghazad	otto__: maybe it has a slightly different name on your OS. i am using debian
14:45	ninnghazad	otto__: search for packages with openal and dev or devel in the name and you should find it
14:45	kaeza	joepie91, looks ok
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14:46	Amaz	XD
14:46	George	where can I find sub games ?
14:46	kaeza	George, in the "Games" section in the forums
14:46	Amaz	Here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=15
14:46	kaeza	^
14:46	George	ty
14:47	kaeza	!wik Games
14:47	MinetestBot	"Minetest games (also called â€œsubgamesâ€) are essentially a pre-tested collection of Mods." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Games
14:47	kaeza	also there ^
14:47	otto__	!wik help
14:47	otto__	hu..
14:47	MinetestBot	No such page.
14:48	otto__	what about a fresh web page?
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14:55	dirkk0	this is what works on Ubuntu 12.04 for example on Amazon EC2. This will install Minetest+Carbone and start it in a screen.
14:55	dirkk0	https://gist.github.com/dirkk0/655c5a27e718597a8913
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15:02	Megaf_	Hi all
15:02	otto__	hi
15:02	otto__	what about adding minetest to android f-droid store?
15:05	dirkk0	AFAIK there is no official Android port yet.
15:05	sfan5	there is
15:05	sfan5	but it's not bug-free
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15:06	sfan5	dirkk0: why do you have the "cd /usr/bin/" there?
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15:11	dirkk0	@sfan5 because this script gets called from a python script that executes each line by ssh'ing on the instance.
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15:11	dirkk0	but you are right this can be solved more elegantly
15:11	sfan5	thats not what I mean
15:11	sfan5	cd somewhere
15:12	sfan5	somecommand
15:12	sfan5	in that the cd has no effect
15:12	sfan5	if you don't to ./minetest or /some/where/minetest the cd has no effect because "minetest" needs to be in PATH
15:13	dirkk0	oh - I see
15:14	dirkk0	good point. I take this out then,
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15:18	dirkk0	I intended to put that in the Wiki, I am just not sure how many people are interested in that.
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15:52	VanessaE	!tell Jordach you have to read both the horizontal and vertical sizes of the image and calculate the aspect ratio, otherwise your code will break on "HD" skins.
15:52	MinetestBot	VanessaE: yeah, yeah
15:54	cities	omg PCHAT is so great
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16:04	zlsa	slightly off topic: is there any particular reason mediacrush is recommended? (I've used it and I love it, but the "typical" choice is imgur.)
16:04	zlsa	imgur is the pastebin.com for images
16:05	Hobodium	I think it is partially due to pastebin and imgur being hosted in the US
16:06	jojoa1997	It is because the people here do not like those sites. There is nothing wrong with either
16:07	Hobodium	Imgur is also partially a social media site, which is not really functionality needed for the use cases of this chat.
16:07	jojoa1997	I just paste the actual pic url
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16:08	MinetestBot	Calinou: 10-02 13:34 UTC <Jordach> [14:04:22] <dirkk0> who is maintaining the minetest wiki? because the captchas wont work much longer: http://goo.gl/LmuzDY
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16:08	VanessaE	sfan5 ^^
16:09	Calinou	not sure if I can act on this
16:09	sfan5	hm?
16:09	sfan5	I don't have anything to do with the wiki
16:09	VanessaE	oh, whow as it then? damn I can't remember
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16:09	sfan5	Â¯\_(ãƒ„)_/Â¯
16:09	Calinou	probably ShadowNinja orâ€¦ x y z
16:09	cities	microcarrot :)
16:09	microcarrot	yo!
16:09	microcarrot	asie: ping
16:10	asie	microcarrot: pong
16:10	asie	why me?
16:10	microcarrot	because I have an interesting story to tell you
16:10	Calinou	what do we use as replacement? mandatory e-mail confirmation? some random question?
16:10	Calinou	for the anti-spam
16:10	microcarrot	that has something to do with this: http://asciimator.net/?module=profile&user_id=1360
16:10	VanessaE	just use recaptcha?
16:10	Calinou	also the current one blocks too many legitimate people
16:10	jojoa1997	recaptche?
16:10	Calinou	cough Google cough
16:10	microcarrot	google...
16:10	microcarrot	XD
16:10	Calinou	also it's not 100 % reliable
16:11	microcarrot	Asie: ^^^
16:11	Calinou	requires JavaScript (good bye Sokomine) and such
16:11	VanessaE	Calinou: neither is the cat one.
16:11	zlsa	john_minetest, true
16:11	asie	microcarrot: yes/
16:11	asie	?
16:11	microcarrot	asie: http://asciimator.net/?module=profile&user_id=1360
16:11	asie	yes I know
16:12	asie	i'm the guy currently hosting ASCIImator
16:12	microcarrot	wow
16:12	microcarrot	such honor
16:12	microcarrot	XD
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16:12	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: 10-01 21:35 UTC <john_minetest> hi
16:13	rubenwardy	Hi all!
16:15	Jordach	VanessaE, tl;dr can't be fucked to deal with aspect ratio
16:16	sfan5	oh look
16:16	sfan5	an asie
16:16	* sfan5	hugs asie
16:16	VanessaE	Jordach: read width, read height, divide width by height. use the result in your comparison instead of the width.
16:16	Jordach	and the only two people i know who use HD skins are kaeza and ade666 iirc
16:16	VanessaE	if the aspect is 1, it's a 1.8 skin. if it's not, it's a 1.0 skin.
16:17	VanessaE	that's all you ahve to do.
16:17	bjrohan	VanessaE: in the street mod, is there a completely balck asphalt stair that I am missing? The one I see has small white patched on it
16:17	VanessaE	bjrohan: I think you use the circular saw to get it
16:17	VanessaE	but yes, there is./
16:17	rubenwardy	I read your blog, asie, you sound like a good admission to the community.
16:17	bjrohan	VanessaE: what do you mean by the circular saw?
16:18	rubenwardy	bjrohan, it is an item ingame
16:18	Calinou	_ O _
16:18	Calinou	X X X
16:18	VanessaE	bjrohan: if you have moreblocks, it comes with a circular saw that can make tons of shapes out of the blocks i supports
16:18	Calinou	X _ X
16:18	VanessaE	it*
16:18	Calinou	this is the circular saw recipe
16:18	Calinou	X is wooden plank, O is steel ingot, _ is nothing
16:18	VanessaE	blaise: but try just crafting asphalt stairs from the usual recipe of X - - / X X - / X X X
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16:20	bjrohan	Ah
16:20	VanessaE	GAH
16:20	VanessaE	bjrohan: ^^^^^^
16:20	VanessaE	stupid tab complete
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16:21	PenguinDad	blaaaaargh! :D
16:22	* blaaaaargh	.
16:22	kaeza	hey PenguinDad
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16:26	Jordach	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cGbrnXGeha6C.png
16:26	Jordach	yesssssss
16:26	VanessaE	er
16:26	VanessaE	that's a LOT of daisies
16:27	Jordach	VanessaE, it's literally the eden's garden biome
16:27	sfan5	Jordach: Minetest is under Non-Gaming?
16:27	Jordach	sfan5, need to rename it
16:27	Calinou	Jordach, ugly grass :(
16:27	sfan5	Y
16:27	sfan5	oops
16:28	shadowzone	I like BFD.
16:28	Jordach	Calinou, the normal grass doesn't even look like it
16:30	Jordach	Calinou, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/mt8imCftYX1B.png
16:30	Calinou	the new minetest_game grass has a very cool colour, but doesn't tile well
16:30	Jordach	mine doesn't even tile
16:30	Calinou	side grass' too long :(
16:30	Jordach	Calinou, over enough time, the grass becomes full grass blocks
16:31	Calinou	pfft
16:31	Calinou	waste of resources
16:31	* Jordach	looks at minetest_game with massive serverside spikes
16:31	Jordach	BFD doesn't even get that bad
16:32	Calinou	tweak settings, you're good to do
16:32	Calinou	go*
16:32	Jordach	and i'm overkilling it with liquids removing plants and shit
16:32	Calinou	but don't put random silly ABMs like that
16:33	Jordach	Calinou, i've been asking Ecu on how good it should look against other textures in general
16:34	Calinou	ask yourself first
16:34	VanessaE	[10-02 12:36] <xyz> ok
16:34	VanessaE	[10-02 12:36] <xyz> i'll think of a nice captcha then
16:35	Jordach	Calinou, Ecu has known good textures far longer than I have
16:36	VanessaE	bbl
16:37	bjrohan	I'm going to be honest, the circular saw is badass
16:39	Calinou	VanessaE, I'm afraid it's sarcasm
16:39	Calinou	bjrohan, sometimes buggy :( some bugs and exploits exist
16:39	Calinou	rare crashes too
16:40	Calinou	I think the â€œnilâ€ crashes are solved now
16:42	bjrohan	Another question for the asphalt, I am using the white sideline that is in the center of the block, when I make a 90 degree turn, how do I create the white sideline block that will follow the pattern?
16:42	bjrohan	There is the white line 90 block, but the line is on the exges
16:42	bjrohan	edges
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16:46	microcarrot	hi cities!
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16:51	bjrohan	Calinou: VanessaE Here is what I mean, I would like to make a block that will fill in this empty spot http://tinypic.com/r/1tod2t/8
16:51	Calinou	use something else than Tinypic then next time, please
16:51	Calinou	but I already understand what you said
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16:52	bjrohan	ok
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16:52	ElectronLibre	Good [night\|\|morning\|\|afternoon\|\|evening] everyone.
16:53	George	Hi everyone I'm having trouble with mods not showing in games, hjow do I get then working?
16:54	ElectronLibre	Can you give us the modnames and the error(s)'s line please? (==> debug.txt)
16:54	George	ok I'll go get them
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16:56	Calinou	check the directory structure: mod files must be one level in mod folders directly
16:56	Calinou	not in a sub-folder, except if they're a modpack
16:57	ElectronLibre	In this case you must have a modpack.txt file in it.
16:59	George	Don't have any error messages but my animals arent showing in game and they show installed grrrr
17:00	bjrohan	Calinou: What do you recommend for sharing pics?
17:00	ElectronLibre	Did you check the dependencies of the mods? Did you activate them in the menu?
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17:01	George	I'm using linus and have mods installed in ~/root/minetest/mods thates where they are
17:01	George	oin the mod tabe I see all of them so How are they actavited?
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17:04	Calinou	bjrohan, mediacru.sh or lut.im
17:05	Calinou	George, don't run Minetest as root
17:05	Calinou	for your own sake :(
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17:09	George	ok I got errors the past is aty http://pastie.org/9614299
17:11	ElectronLibre	Your mod's name is texture? O_O
17:11	ElectronLibre	Can you give me the list of the files in your ~/.minetest/mods/textures please?
17:12	George	woll do brb
17:13	ElectronLibre	(Can you translate it in good english I can only write and read normal english, please... ^^")
17:13	* cities	gets popcorn
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17:15	bjrohan	VanessaE: Also, for the asphalt, the solid yellow line appears to me to only face one direction, it doesn't adjust to the way you are facing when you place it, am I doing something incorrectly with it?
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17:20	cities	oo SylvieLorxu came back
17:20	* cities	munches popcorn
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17:21	SylvieLorxu	Wut o.o
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17:28	rubberduck	VanessaE, i have a special area protect request for you on your area, i work on a giant minetest logo, it has a size of 124x124 nodes and is far too big for a default area, here i have a screenshot how it looks at the moment: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=156&start=2550#p156546
17:28	rubberduck	i mean on your SERVER
17:28	rubberduck	survival
17:29	rubberduck	it is close to aspiremints pyramid, it should not be too hard to find
17:33	George	this is everything in the mod folder http://pastie.org/9614356
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17:34	George	I already know there is things that don'tbelong in there lol
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17:35	ElectronLibre	Are all that names directories?
17:35	George	sorry for the typos I'm typing with 1 hand I'm disabled
17:36	George	yes but the last I put these are txt files
17:36	George	od doc
17:37	George	or = od
17:38	ElectronLibre	You have to put mods folders in ~/.minetest/mods, not in ~/.minetest/mods , except modpacks but this isn't one..
17:38	George	Should I dump the folders in the mod folder and start over?
17:39	ElectronLibre	Try that yes.
17:39	George	I'll do that ty
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17:44	cities	don't quit
17:45	ElectronLibre	He his probably using freenodes's webchat...
17:45	cities	well that sucks
17:46	microcarrot	yes, yes it does
17:47	ElectronLibre	I used it the first time I came, then I used XChat client and it was wonderful x)..
17:47	cities	I was using irssi
17:47	cities	but my friend
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17:47	cities	cut my shell access
17:47	cities	now I can't get on anymore
17:47	Broam	some friend.
17:47	cities	well we're not
17:47	cities	anymore
17:48	ElectronLibre	IRSSI... I tried it and I will never try again xD..
17:48	cities	I love it
17:48	cities	I loved my shell access period
17:48	ElectronLibre	It's a good client, but if I can have better I prefer having better..
17:49	dirkk0	what clients are you using? I tried IRRSI too, but I am on x-chat now (Mac).
17:49	cities	but thats so yesterday
17:49	rubenwardy	KiwiIRC is good if you can't install a client
17:49	cities	and I can't ssh out unless its port
17:49	cities	443
17:49	rubenwardy	I use HexChat at home
17:49	dirkk0	(I would have preferred shell also)
17:50	cities	he opened 443 for me
17:50	cities	because work has other ports blocked
17:50	ElectronLibre	Shell is powerful, but IRSSI is not the best for tab/channel switching..
17:50	dirkk0	i c
17:50	cities	but now that stain cut my access
17:50	cities	not used to not being connected 24/7 anymore
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17:53	george	Starting over with mods
17:54	* ElectronLibre	was right he is using webchat.
17:54	ElectronLibre	And? It works?
17:54	george	Ok I need that unfied inventory Mod Do I just copy the whole folder into Mods?
17:54	cities	ElectronLibre, whats some other clients on a shell
17:55	george	no errors came up
17:55	ElectronLibre	I just know Irssi.. but it's the best shell client every.
17:55	Nitori	cities, there is also weechat
17:55	cities	never tried that
17:55	cities	I don't know how to do all that anyway
17:55	ElectronLibre	All the mods works george? :D
17:56	george	don't have any of the downloadable mods Elect
17:57	george	all that is running ids the ones thatr are installed in to the game
17:57	ElectronLibre	Ok.. I see..
17:58	ElectronLibre	So! You've activated them in the configuration menu, you started the server. Can you send me again a paste of the logs please?
17:58	george	now to install the unfied inventory dose that go into ~/minetest/mods?
17:59	george	I'm doing the game in single player mode
17:59	ElectronLibre	Yes, like every mods and modpacks.
18:00	george	ok going to instakll it brb
18:01	ElectronLibre	And please install an IRC client! ^^
18:03	george	yepeeee It works ty Electron
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18:04	MinetestBot	Krock: 10-02 11:06 UTC <Jordach> my VM of Windows 10 runs Minetest in OpenGL at 41fps, your move: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/vTFbWjd93ARW.png
18:05	Krock	Jordach, meh.
18:05	ElectronLibre	This was nothing george ;).
18:07	george	ty
18:07	george	how would I get this in to x chat?
18:08	Krock	Jordach, your way to play minetest is inefficient.
18:08	rubberduck	:-D
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18:24	hisforever	yepee I goy on here with x chat
18:24	hisforever	btw I was Grorge when I loged in earlier
18:24	hisforever	george
18:25	* ElectronLibre	noticed. Great :D!
18:26	* sfan5	meows at ElectronLibre
18:27	* rubberduck	quacks at sfan5
18:27	* ElectronLibre	gives sfan5 a fish ==> <Â°)))><
18:27	hisforever	is neko295-mature-8dbd9e00ce6d a mod?
18:28	* sfan5	meows
18:28	ElectronLibre	No, but mature is a mod :).
18:28	* rubberduck	quacks
18:28	ElectronLibre	So just rename the forlder by removing neko* and 8dbd* .
18:29	hisforever	ok will do
18:31	PenguinDad	sfan5: you ate a mature neko?
18:32	PenguinDad	*are
18:32	sfan5	PenguinDad: no, I'm playing Portal 2
18:32	sfan5	</ignoringcontext>
18:32	rubberduck	hi penguinDad
18:34	* PenguinDad	is happey
18:36	* rubberduck	loves the "/me" command
18:37	* ElectronLibre	loves using the /me command too, and /whois...
18:39	* Hobodium	doesn't know how to use /me
18:39	* rubberduck	tested the /whois command on himself
18:40	* ElectronLibre	tells Hobodium he used /me right now.
18:40	* Hobodium	doesn't believe ElectronLibre
18:40	* ElectronLibre	is seeing a rainbow of nicks on his client because of the /me commands xD.
18:40	* rubberduck	doesn't know about the existance of the /me command
18:41	PenguinDad	ElectronLibre: is this a better rainbow? :3
18:41	ElectronLibre	_..
18:41	* rubberduck	without anything does not work...
18:42	* rubberduck	wonders how to write in rainbow colors
18:42	ElectronLibre	How much time did it take to make this rainbow xD? (Hmm, not sure about the translation)
18:42	shadowzone	I'm wondering the same thing.
18:42	rubenwardy	PenguinDad is too cool for school
18:42	rubenwardy	ow
18:42	rubenwardy	That was in rainbow :(
18:42	cities	I thought smart people hated colored text
18:42	rubberduck	rainbow?!?!?!?!
18:42	rubberduck	i <3 colered text
18:43	rubenwardy	Anyway, gtg
18:43	ElectronLibre	On XChat you right-click a text zone and you insert "colors flags".
18:43	shadowzone	Does it work with hexchat?
18:43	cities	dfgdfggf
18:43	shadowzone	See.
18:43	ElectronLibre	Like this
18:44	cities	I don't have a rainbow option
18:44	Broam	I see rainbows.
18:44	shadowzone	!rainbow Does this work?
18:44	MinetestBot	4Doe7s t8his3 work?
18:44	* Broam	tries tasting them, but his tongue is shocked
18:44	cities	welcome to san francisco everyone!
18:44	ElectronLibre	:/...
18:44	Broam	Sorry, cost of living is too high, back to east coast
18:45	* ElectronLibre	is going on the rainbows to San Francisco.
18:45	dirkk0	!rainbow 1234567890abcdef
18:45	MinetestBot	4â€‹1237â€‹4568â€‹7893â€‹0abcde6f
18:45	dirkk0	cool :-)
18:46	ElectronLibre	I just have to stay in a battery so it's not very expensive to live on the West coast xD..
18:46	cities	â€ªytsadasd
18:48	Krock	,04I wonder why this text is not easy to read.
18:48	dirkk0	lol
18:48	PenguinDad	Krock: it is easy to read here
18:48	shadowzone	Uh What aer we doing?
18:48	shadowzone	*are
18:49	ElectronLibre	Hum, flood? xD
18:50	Brains	#minetest or How I Learned to Gouge Out My Eyes and Love It
18:50	ElectronLibre	xD
18:51	Krock	hmm ElectronLibre, somehow I got a flood effect, too
18:54	ElectronLibre	Now everyone know how to use /me, I think the "flood" is finished. :)
18:54	rubberduck	:-D
18:55	ElectronLibre	But someones don't known there is /away :Â°...
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18:56	hisforever	http://pastie.org/9614560 getting errors
18:57	Megaf_	09,01h4ack3r m4tr1x t3xt
18:58	Krock	,01You evil
18:58	ElectronLibre	hisforever, just some textures that the mod cannot load... Can you see the problems in the game or you've seen it in the logs?
18:58	hisforever	in the game it self
18:58	Megaf_	15,01Can we even use colors here?
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18:59	cities	I would imagine only for the purposes of jovial moments
18:59	dirkk0	(turns out, I ignored IRC for too long)
19:00	ElectronLibre	hisforever, does this problem disallow you to play correctly or you've seen it in the chat of the game? ^^
19:00	hisforever	no its just text i'll ingore it
19:00	cities	I get errors all the time never thought anything about it
19:02	hisforever	this so so cool I hear all kind of animals not thanks Eledtron
19:02	hisforever	even water fall
19:03	hisforever	Where can I find a good house to build?
19:03	Krock	,13 Megaf_, yeah. why not?
19:03	cities	if its not yet built how would you find it
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19:07	Krock	ack. tomorrow's 1-year-Krock-day and I won't be able to make a post at the same time as I created it >:(
19:09	Krock	,01darkness.
19:10	Zephlon	Redness.
19:10	Megaf_	Krock: meh, that's dark
19:10	Megaf_	,00whiteness
19:10	Megaf_	,12blueness
19:10	ElectronLibre	(For those who cannot read just select the text)
19:10	Megaf_	and dats enough
19:11	Krock	,00why is white dark?
19:11	Krock	ElectronLibre, ssht. that's magic.
19:11	ElectronLibre	Ho, ok.
19:12	Zephlon	,01Yellow is the best color!
19:12	ElectronLibre	I didn't say anything :Â°
19:12	Megaf_	07,07#00,00#03,03# <- The Irish Flag
19:12	Megaf_	actually
19:12	Megaf_	thats the indian flag or something
19:13	* ElectronLibre	can't color the background :/...
19:13	Megaf_	03,03#00,00#07,07# <- The Irish Flag
19:13	Megaf_	Yep, that's the Itish Flag
19:13	Megaf_	Irish*
19:14	Megaf_	ElectronLibre: well, it's quite easy if you use Quassel
19:15	dirkk0	Quassel?
19:15	Megaf_	ElectronLibre: do you use Tox?
19:15	Zephlon	[ctrl+k]8,1Yellow on black
19:15	Megaf_	dirkk0: the best multiplatform IRC Client
19:15	ElectronLibre	I actually use XChat.
19:15	Krock	<3 nettalk
19:15	cities	4 13
19:16	Megaf_	dirkk0: I use Quassel Client on my Android, OS X, Debian and used to use on my windows XP PC at my old workplace
19:16	* ElectronLibre	write somewhere the name of quassels to install it.
19:16	cities	Megaf_, does it cost
19:16	Megaf_	And quassel client connects to my quassel core running at home
19:16	Megaf_	so I have all the chat all the time
19:17	Megaf_	or, you can use Quassel as a regular IRC client
19:17	Megaf_	cities: Quassel actually begun as a KDE IRC Client
19:17	cities	I had that with my irssi and screen :(
19:17	Megaf_	it is Free and Open Source
19:17	cities	until that dumb A of a friend cut me off
19:17	shadowzone	Does this ever work?
19:17	Megaf_	cities: because then you dont have to install Putty or anything else..
19:17	shadowzone	nv,
19:18	shadowzone	*nvm
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19:18	cities	ill check it out but I have no home connection to run it off to
19:18	cities	off of
19:18	cities	connect to*
19:18	cities	no internet at home so phone is everything
19:18	cities	which is why irssi, screen, and ZNC were amazing combo
19:19	cities	hah quassel site is blocled
19:19	cities	of course it is
19:19	ElectronLibre	Quassel crashed : bye bye..
19:19	* ElectronLibre	reminds he is using jessie/sid...
19:20	Megaf_	everything can crash on sid
19:20	Megaf_	even the kernel
19:20	ElectronLibre	Yes, that's more funny xD..
19:21	cities	I'm so limited by them blocking everything
19:21	cities	its so not funny
19:21	PenguinDad	Megaf_: everything can crash on wheezy too
19:21	jojoa1997	cities who?
19:21	cities	work
19:22	Megaf_	cities: at my work I would use a ssh Socksv5 proxy to browse the internet
19:22	cities	after my friend cut me off their shell, (he had port 443 open for me), the only way I could get back here was using an SSL connection to some weird port
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19:22	Megaf_	just connect to your home using Putty if you use windows, and in putty setup a dynamic tunnel on let's say, port 8080
19:22	cities	lol theres no connection at home. Its called the boon docks
19:22	cities	they don't even offer the net
19:22	Megaf_	then configure your browser to use a SocksV5 proxy on address 127.0.0.1 and port 8080
19:23	Megaf_	lol
19:23	Megaf_	where do you live?
19:23	cities	south carolina
19:23	cities	you call and ask someone about cable internet they say
19:23	cities	well yes if you pay us to run the lines
19:24	cities	that quassel thing looks amazing tho
19:24	cities	if I had internet at home I'd set tha tup
19:24	cities	when I went home I would connect to znc using an IRC app on my phone
19:28	NakedFury	this channel has become very noisy
19:28	NakedFury	you know that is a nice name
19:28	NakedFury	lets play Minecrosoft
19:29	Zephlon	have you guys tried Minecraft 2? Microsoft released a beta for it and SethBling did a video on it.
19:30	PenguinDad	/set h bling :P
19:30	SylvieLorxu	>Minecraft 2
19:30	Megaf_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCIYqAFwr38
19:30	SylvieLorxu	That didn't take long to start going to hell
19:31	Megaf_	!title
19:31	MinetestBot	Megaf_: Minecraft 2 by Microsoft (Early Access Beta Test) - YouTube
19:31	Megaf_	That's funny
19:31	NakedFury	yeah it is
19:31	SylvieLorxu	Aww, it's a crappy joke that I can't watch because YouTube hates Free codecs
19:31	jojoa1997	Can someone post a picture of glasslike_framed_optional
19:32	SylvieLorxu	Oh well, maybe in a few days I can check too
19:32	NakedFury	its minecraft in excel SylvieLorxu
19:32	SylvieLorxu	"Minecraft2" won't run in LibreOffice?
19:32	ElectronLibre	SylvieLorxu, did you try youtube-dl? x)
19:32	SylvieLorxu	ElectronLibre: Too much trouble
19:32	NakedFury	this is ridiculous who ever spent all that time making that thing is insane
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19:36	Megaf_	It doesnt work on libreoffice =/
19:36	cities	I didn't find this in connection to microsoft buying minecraft
19:38	cities	someone needs to email me the install file for quassel
19:38	cities	I could run it off work :)
19:38	cities	can't get to the site to download it but it would work
19:39	cities	oh or I could do what Megaf_ said
19:42	cities	Megaf_, they blocked the proxy settings in IE
19:42	cities	will try a differrent brower
19:43	Krock	> IE
19:43	cities	ok its just blocked period
19:44	cities	damn everything.
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19:48	cities	anyone got an empty spot on a shell with irssi, screen, and znc I can use
19:49	cities	wishful thinking
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19:53	* Krock	wonders if someone here uses the base_game (looking at screenshot http://i.imgur.com/goxsKwi.png )
19:54	* Krock	didn't use any texture pack there
19:54	* ElectronLibre	thinks no Â°_Â°..
19:54	ElectronLibre	Wow, the glass nodes are very clean..
19:55	Krock	it's possible to make them cleaner - looks better this way
19:55	Krock	oh my holy crab
19:56	Krock	w_laegner / Hybrid Dog is active. very active.
19:56	Amaz	â†‘
19:56	Krock	^wat that mean
19:57	Amaz	Me?
19:57	Amaz	It means that I second your opinion.
19:57	Amaz	:P
19:57	Krock	ah
19:57	Amaz	14 topics in 5 minutes!
19:57	Amaz	That is impressive.
19:57	* ElectronLibre	tries to remember where he has seen w_laegner... Ho.. He remembers.
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20:02	diemartin	I ain't movin' that!
20:02	hisforever	I have too many pages in minetest debug Can I empty it?
20:02	hisforever	like 1000 pages
20:02	Krock	Releated to N/A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR8lP1YR9ac
20:03	diemartin	hisforever, nuke debug.txt regularly; it's only useful in case of errors
20:03	ElectronLibre	hisforever, just do this : rm debug.txt
20:03	hisforever	ok ty
20:05	diemartin	"rm" no se reconoce como un comando interno o externo, programa o archivo por lotes ejecutable.
20:05	diemartin	<_<
20:06	diemartin	okay, I lied, I haz cygwin
20:06	ElectronLibre	^^
20:06	ElectronLibre	Right-click -> Remove file works :D.
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20:06	Krock	hisforever, set debug log level to 1 or 0
20:06	Krock	then delete that file
20:07	Krock	^ not minetest.conf
20:08	blaise	lol
20:10	Amaz	XD
20:11	shadowzone	What are you talking about?
20:11	ElectronLibre	Removing minetest.conf instead of debug.txt ^^"...
20:11	Amaz	Nuking things :D
20:11	* Krock	nukes all nukes
20:11	* diemartin	puts a Krock in the nuke's head
20:12	* Krock	rollricks the stuff
20:12	diemartin	that sounded dirty somehow...
20:12	* Amaz	presses a Big Red Button
20:12	* Krock	reads "Please press me. not." ^
20:13	shadowzone	You are all so funny.
20:13	* ElectronLibre	cleans tha wall full of pieces of exploded Krock.
20:13	ElectronLibre	*the
20:14	shadowzone	XD
20:15	hisforever	will remiving the minetest.comf break the game?
20:15	Krock	yes, it will nuke.
20:15	Krock	>.comf
20:16	shadowzone	Lol.
20:16	shadowzone	look at dat typo.
20:16	Amaz	hisforever, no it won't.
20:16	Amaz	It will destroy your settings however.
20:16	blaise	minetest generates a minetest.conf I thought
20:16	hisforever	ok I'll try it ty
20:16	blaise	if you don't use the minetest.conf.example
20:18	blaise	has anyone tried the firearms mod?
20:18	shadowzone	I have.
20:19	Krock	yes.
20:19	blaise	could you guys get the guns to fire?
20:19	blaise	where's the saftey on these things..
20:19	ElectronLibre	Good bye everyone.
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20:20	blaise	I can't seem to get the guns to fire...
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20:20	blaise	do I need to load the clip or something?
20:20	shadowzone	SHIFT+Left click
20:20	hmmmm	http://www.wired.com/2014/10/code-published-for-unfixable-usb-attack/
20:20	hmmmm	gg
20:20	shadowzone	With ammo in your iventory.
20:21	blaise	shift left click doesn't do anything
20:21	shadowzone	Does it make a click sound?
20:21	blaise	nope
20:22	shadowzone	Do you have ammo in your inventory?
20:22	blaise	yep
20:22	shadowzone	Hmm.
20:22	shadowzone	What is your crouch button?
20:22	blaise	shift
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20:23	blaise	sneak/hide/crotchetizer
20:23	shadowzone	o.O
20:23	shadowzone	crotchetizer?
20:24	blaise	http://enc.tfode.com/Crotchetizer
20:24	EvergreenTree	Hello everyone
20:24	sfan5	hmmmm: and with how many different usb chips does this work with?
20:25	blaise	oh wow, it randomly startedworking
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20:28	shadowzone	XD
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20:29	shadowzone	Now I'm worried.
20:31	blaise	about?
20:32	shadowzone	http://www.wired.com/2014/10/code-published-for-unfixable-usb-attack/
20:32	blaise	oh, lol
20:33	blaise	well stop putting flashy random things in your holes..
20:33	shadowzone	o.O
20:33	blaise	!server Midnight
20:33	MinetestBot	blaise: MidnightSystems \| midnightsystems.net \| Clients: 1/10, 0/1 \| Version: 0.4.10 / minetest \| Ping: 568ms
20:34	shadowzone	!server selahs's server
20:34	MinetestBot	shadowzone: Selahs's Server! \| selah.us.to:30001 \| Clients: 0/10, 0/1 \| Version: 0.4.9-dev / cg72 \| Ping: 301ms
20:35	blaise	also
20:35	blaise	I know how to fix the badusb stuff
20:36	blaise	put the usb storage in the usb drive
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20:36	blaise	dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdb
20:37	blaise	just wipe it out
20:37	blaise	sanitary
20:37	blaise	clean
20:37	blaise	safe
20:37	diemartin	nice if you have 2 hard drives
20:37	blaise	if you're booting off a usb flash drive you have bigger problems than malware
20:38	diemartin	>/dev/sdb
20:42	blaise	what ever the damn thing is called when you put it in the usb hole
20:42	blaise	could be sdz I guess
20:43	blaise	it should be noded that dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/<usb flash drive, not partition.. the actual drive>
20:43	blaise	will destroy all data
20:43	blaise	and you will have to repartition the device
20:43	blaise	but the malware will be gone
20:44	blaise	although in windows there's no way to avoid it other than not putting things in the usb holes
20:44	blaise	most operating systems have to be told to look at stuff like that
20:44	blaise	windows just reads anything you hand it
20:45	blaise	even if you don't want it to
20:45	Amaz	!server Lord
20:45	MinetestBot	Amaz: Lord of the Test hosted by OldCoder \| minetest.org:30020 \| Clients: 0/20, 1/5 \| Version: 0.4.10-dev / lott_game \| Ping: 904ms
20:45	shadowzone	I'm not gonna abuse the bot as to not upset sfan5.
20:46	Amaz	Good shadowzone!
20:46	Amaz	:P
20:46	OldCoder	Hi!
20:46	shadowzone	HI OldCoder.
20:46	shadowzone	So are you hosting WidDos server?
20:46	Amaz	Hi!
20:49	Megaf_	VanessaE: https://github.com/Megaf/more_chests/commit/4aa321957497512ea012736aa2b594818d328dd4
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20:50	MinetestBot	[Git] kaeza -> minetest/minetest: Add better documentation for alternate drop definition to lua_api.txt. 5baf379 http://git.io/HUOpjw (2014-10-02T16:49:33-04:00)
20:52	* blaise	explodes into a bursty molten lava fountain
20:52	srifqi	good morning!
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20:52	shadowzone	Oh no..
20:52	OldCoder	shadowzone, yes, I think so
20:53	shadowzone	MY left click button just quit working.
20:53	OldCoder	One step at a time
20:53	OldCoder	pitriss, Hi
20:53	pitriss	hi
20:53	shadowzone	brb
20:53	shadowzone	restarting my PC.
20:53	OldCoder	ANNOUNCE: Redcrab is down, long live Redcrab. I'm going to try to revive the world.
20:53	OldCoder	I have a copy of what might be most of the map
20:53	OldCoder	I don't have the player files
20:53	OldCoder	If there are Redcrab people here, see me when you can
20:54	OldCoder	pitriss, I'm going to start a temporary copy of a world based on the map and ask you for your comments
20:54	OldCoder	Either today or tomorrow
20:54	OldCoder	This will delay the revival of Calinou World but Redcrab takes precedence
20:54	OldCoder	Done
20:54	pitriss	OldCoder: okay:)
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20:56	srifqi	what's redcrab server IP?
20:56	shadowzone	Back.
20:56	Megaf_	Who is HybridDog on IRC?
20:57	OldCoder	srifqi, it's dead, I think
20:57	srifqi	oh
20:57	OldCoder	Ah, you wish to verify this
20:57	OldCoder	Hang on
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20:57	OldCoder	174.129.196.242
20:57	OldCoder	But that may be old
20:58	OldCoder	redcrab.suret.net
20:58	OldCoder	port 30401
20:58	srifqi	OK, thanks
20:59	OldCoder	Sokomine said that something she added triggered a crash
20:59	OldCoder	Looks like restart script didn't work
20:59	OldCoder	It's been down, apparently, for a week
20:59	srifqi	Sokomine is a woman?
20:59	OldCoder	I don't know for sure
21:00	shadowzone	OldCoder, I asked WidDos to verify your hosting his server and he said "<WidDos> Yeah but it not up yet" so there is your verification.
21:00	EvergreenTree	srifqi: yes
21:00	OldCoder	I think I was told so
21:00	EvergreenTree	OldCoder: :(
21:00	EvergreenTree	That is sad news
21:00	OldCoder	EvergreenTree, I can revive the world
21:00	OldCoder	I'll check my copy of the map this evening
21:00	EvergreenTree	Good
21:00	EvergreenTree	How did you get the copy?
21:00	OldCoder	It will be tomorrow morning for the Europe people
21:00	shadowzone	And for the american people?
21:00	EvergreenTree	There are buildings out by the very edge of the map
21:00	OldCoder	EvergreenTree, it was a gift
21:01	EvergreenTree	hoe old is it?
21:01	OldCoder	shadowzone, possibly 3 hours
21:01	EvergreenTree	*how
21:01	shadowzone	Oh.
21:01	shadowzone	It'll be 7 for me.
21:01	OldCoder	EvergreenTree, assuming that it's good, not tested yet, a few months
21:01	OldCoder	I've got to run an errand now then make some phone calls
21:01	EvergreenTree	good, no one has been on there in a long time
21:01	OldCoder	After that I'll boot it up and see if it's there
21:01	OldCoder	I'll need help with assembling a _game
21:02	OldCoder	There will be lots of unknown nodes; I'll add mods to fix them
21:02	EvergreenTree	that;s the issue
21:02	OldCoder	But people will need to pitch in
21:02	EvergreenTree	Right
21:02	* OldCoder	is O.K. with adding mods
21:02	Amaz	I'll help.
21:02	EvergreenTree	I might be willing if I find the time
21:02	OldCoder	Very well. First step is to confirm that I have the world and see how much is there.
21:02	EvergreenTree	Someone should create a forum topic for that
21:03	pitriss	OldCoder: Sokomine tried to put together redcrab_game IIRC
21:03	OldCoder	If I don't, I'm afraid that the world is gone. But Redcrab might show up in his own forums.
21:03	OldCoder	pitriss, see if she'll share a copy
21:03	* OldCoder	needs to leave on errand now but will report back
21:03	OldCoder	o/
21:03	EvergreenTree	Cya
21:04	pitriss	see you OldCoder
21:04	OldCoder	o/
21:04	OldCoder
21:05	Sokomine	OldCoder: where?
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21:08	jojoa1997	What was OldCoder talking about a gift?
21:09	shadowzone	I dunno.
21:10	srifqi	quote:
21:10	srifqi	[04:00] <EvergreenTree> There are buildings out by the very edge of the map
21:10	srifqi	[04:00] <OldCoder> EvergreenTree, it was a gift
21:10	srifqi	I think it's about Redcrab server's map
21:10	EvergreenTree	He was talking about him having a copy of the redcrab server map
21:10	EvergreenTree	because the redcrab sever is down
21:11	EvergreenTree	possibly forever
21:11	Amaz	:(
21:11	Sokomine	if anyone knows how to contact redcrab....
21:12	Sokomine	i've tried mails already
21:12	ShadowNinja	Sokomine: Using what address?
21:12	srifqi	mails, e-mails, phone, SMS?
21:13	Sokomine	ShadowNinja: i tried through his forum
21:16	srifqi	bye
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21:30	Nerotic	Heyo
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21:35	Nerotic	Anyone know of an impressive fork/game?
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21:41	rickmcfarley	Nerotic: have you tried Lord of the Test?
21:41	Nerotic	I have not. What is it about?
21:41	rickmcfarley	It's a Lord of the Rings based Minetest game
21:41	rickmcfarley	has orcs and trolls and towers and cool biomes and armor and clothes and hunger
21:42	Nerotic	Awesome, ill check it out
21:42	rickmcfarley	and other cool stuff
21:43	Nerotic	Downloading now...
21:43	Nerotic	Is this custom mods or mods made by the community?
21:44	rickmcfarley	both I think
21:44	rickmcfarley	The potions are a little buggy, but other than that its all set
21:45	Nerotic	Alright, thanks.
21:45	rickmcfarley	You bet dude, if you get a chance try RealBadAngel's technic mod, it's my favorite
21:46	Nerotic	I tried that. Pretty sweet, isn't it?
21:47	rickmcfarley	oh yeah, LOTT has ridable horses and crossbows
21:48	Nerotic	When you get a chance, try Buildtest mod, its awesome. Like Buildcraft for minetest
21:48	* ShadowNinja	sees people talking positively about a mod that he substantially contributed to and smiles. :-)
21:48	Nerotic	Oh about to start playing lord of the test, cant wait
21:48	ShadowNinja	rickmcfarley: Has your host had any issues?
21:48	Nerotic	ShadowNinja, you contributed to LOTT, or Technic?
21:48	rickmcfarley	He is still working on it, he said he's almost done
21:49	rickmcfarley	technic
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21:49	ShadowNinja	Nerotic: Technic.
21:49	Nerotic	technic is awesooomme
21:49	rickmcfarley	right
21:49	ShadowNinja	I've reworked the mojority of the files and sub-mods.
21:49	ShadowNinja	majority*
21:49	Nerotic	woah, lott biomes are cool
21:50	Nerotic	i play technic mod, usually twice a day
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21:50	ShadowNinja	BTW, #minetest-technic if you want to discuss Technic.
21:51	ShadowNinja	Usefull for simple bug reports, help, or patches.
21:52	hisforever	Can you turn off animal sounds?
21:54	ShadowNinja	hisforever: Depends on what animal mod you're using. You can olways delete the audio files or disable the code, but a setting may or may not be available.
21:54	hisforever	ty shadow
21:55	Nerotic	awesome game, ill bbl while l8er while i play
21:56	rickmcfarley	ShadowNinja: thanks I'll add #minetest-technic to my list, I've been trying to analyze it to make a simple electrical system for my space mod
21:56	rickmcfarley	later Necrotic
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22:43	* VanessaE	peeks in
22:48	rickmcfarley	hello VanessaE
22:50	VanessaE	hi
22:52	shadowzone	Hi VanessaE.
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23:42	jojoa1997	Hi I'm back!
23:43	Broam	wb
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