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marktraceur |
STHGOM: Well, you pour it. |
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marktraceur |
Oh, in the game. |
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shadowzone |
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http://manboobz.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/is1kbbz.png?w=600&h=337 |
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stormchaser3000 |
oh !@#$ |
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stormchaser3000 |
wth |
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stormchaser3000 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7VzufzHOdk |
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stormchaser3000 |
that is unity 8 |
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stormchaser3000 |
*pukes* |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
xfce ftw! |
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stormchaser3000 |
i don't use xfce |
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stormchaser3000 |
i use kde |
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stormchaser3000 |
kde 5 atm |
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stormchaser3000 |
but i like kde 4's compatability |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
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redstonecraftpl |
Hi |
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stormchaser3000 |
hi |
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Krock |
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the_kreator |
hi |
| 10:09 |
redstonecraftpl |
hi |
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redstonecraftpl |
Any good servers with no griefers and familiar athmosphere? (I THINK I WROTE IT good! Btw, IT WAS SHIFT!) |
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the_kreator |
hi |
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the_kreator |
hi |
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the_kreator |
anybody here can make a server that full of mods? |
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Krock |
redstonecraftpl, diffrent servers - diffrent atmosphere. I couldn't say you any which has a familiar one |
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sfan5 |
Krock: different* |
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Krock |
sfan5, uh thx. wrote it wrong allthe time |
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the_kreator |
who can tell me ho to make a server |
| 11:21 |
sfan5 |
the forum |
| 11:21 |
the_kreator |
i dont understand the guide at the forum |
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the_kreator |
hello can some body answer m question |
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redstonecraftpl |
I have a trouble |
| 11:38 |
redstonecraftpl |
when i try to launch minetest i got THIS: |
| 11:38 |
redstonecraftpl |
(wait a while) |
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Krock |
use pastebin for long mesages please |
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redstonecraftpl |
http://wklej.org/id/1564867/ |
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redstonecraftpl |
i am not sure for the line 5, (it is my polish to english translation) |
| 11:42 |
Krock |
Digging a node eats 10 fps.. I just discovered |
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Krock |
too less memory? |
| 11:42 |
jin_xi |
it has to make textures if you have not dug this type of node before |
| 11:42 |
redstonecraftpl |
i dont know, i launched minetest before and played |
| 11:42 |
sfan5 |
Krock: s/less/few/ |
| 11:42 |
redstonecraftpl |
And i restarted my comp.. |
| 11:43 |
sfan5 |
redstonecraftpl: where did you get minetest? |
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* Krock |
gives sfan5 a kitten |
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jin_xi |
or its the meshupdates caused by placing crack |
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redstonecraftpl |
sfan5: Someone gave me a link(not zelda) to forum. There were a script, that i pasted to console and BOOOM! |
| 11:43 |
jbb |
I had played minetest at school! |
| 11:43 |
redstonecraftpl |
really? |
| 11:43 |
jbb |
In multiplayer with my friends |
| 11:43 |
redstonecraftpl |
1fps? :D |
| 11:44 |
Krock |
jbb, some teachers prefer when you sleep instead |
| 11:44 |
jbb |
yes the teacher has just looked at his own PC |
| 11:45 |
Krock |
Interesting.. digging 1 node ^= 10 fps ^= 10% CPU usage |
| 11:45 |
jin_xi |
also particles if you have them enabled |
| 11:45 |
jbb |
but at school there are very slow PCs |
| 11:45 |
jbb |
:( |
| 11:46 |
redstonecraftpl |
256MB ram and Intel Pentium 3? Norm in poland |
| 11:46 |
jbb |
like this |
| 11:46 |
Krock |
Commodore64 pls |
| 11:46 |
jbb |
but now there comes new ones |
| 11:47 |
redstonecraftpl |
Amiga 600 :D |
| 11:47 |
jbb |
but in Berlin the school PCs are very slow |
| 11:47 |
sfan5 |
jbb: depends on the school |
| 11:47 |
redstonecraftpl |
Atari 65XE |
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redstonecraftpl |
or better, atari 400 |
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jbb |
sorry, but my english isnt so well -( |
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jbb |
:( |
| 11:49 |
redstonecraftpl |
main too |
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redstonecraftpl |
mine* |
| 11:49 |
redstonecraftpl |
So, any ideas for my minetest? Pls |
| 11:50 |
sfan5 |
redstonecraftpl: which linux distro? |
| 11:50 |
Krock |
Debain ^ |
| 11:50 |
jbb |
do youu speak german? |
| 11:50 |
Krock |
jbb, #minetest-de |
| 11:50 |
* sfan5 |
speaks german |
| 11:50 |
redstonecraftpl |
debian, as you may see in http://wklej.org/id/1564867/ |
| 11:50 |
jbb |
yes debian is the best! |
| 11:50 |
Krock |
redstonecraftpl, try to update the irrlicht version to 1.8.1 |
| 11:50 |
jbb |
or semplice |
| 11:51 |
redstonecraftpl |
by apt-get upgrade irrlicht ? |
| 11:51 |
Krock |
no idea. you're the linux user here |
| 11:51 |
redstonecraftpl |
OK |
| 11:52 |
Krock |
(and many other people are linux users too) |
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* Krock |
feels tiny |
| 11:52 |
redstonecraftpl |
(and just an normal 12 year old kid, i am not kidding) |
| 11:53 |
redstonecraftpl |
first let's try reinstall it, bcause i dont see newer version |
| 11:53 |
LazyJ |
Check Irrlicht's website, sourceforge, github page,... whatever it is they have. |
| 11:53 |
jbb |
www.windoof.org |
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* Krock |
loves the simplyness of just copy&paste dlls |
| 11:54 |
redstonecraftpl |
newer irrlich only for jessie(debian 8) |
| 11:54 |
redstonecraftpl |
let's try reinstall minetest.. |
| 11:54 |
redstonecraftpl |
fully |
| 11:54 |
Krock |
jbb, I doubt, that's in english |
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sfan5 |
Krock: are you saying downloading DLLs from some random website and putting them somewhere is easier than sudo apt-get install libirrlicht |
| 11:55 |
LazyJ |
If they provide a ".deb" (debian package), then you can install it using the dpkg command. |
| 11:55 |
redstonecraftpl |
sfan5: HEY HEY!!! NOT DLL"S! .SO! and that is shift |
| 11:55 |
Krock |
sfan5, random official irrlicht site. yeah. sure <.< |
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sfan5 |
redstonecraftpl: .so files are DLLs too |
| 11:56 |
sfan5 |
because DLL means Dynamic Link Library |
| 11:56 |
redstonecraftpl |
okok |
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* Krock |
wonders about the sense of .so |
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jin_xi |
shared object? |
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redstonecraftpl |
i think bingo |
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redstonecraftpl |
30% |
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redstonecraftpl |
95% |
| 12:08 |
redstonecraftpl |
After reinstall it works 100% |
| 12:18 |
redstonecraftpl |
Krock, do you have a server? |
| 12:18 |
Krock |
two. |
| 12:19 |
redstonecraftpl |
i see one on official list |
| 12:20 |
Krock |
http://servers.minetest.net/ you'll find the two servers, using their IP |
| 12:21 |
redstonecraftpl |
Whow, this teleporter is cool. How you made it? Easy? |
| 12:22 |
Krock |
teleporter? |
| 12:23 |
redstonecraftpl |
yep |
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redstonecraftpl |
this on start |
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Krock |
The elevator? |
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Krock |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4877 |
| 12:24 |
redstonecraftpl |
yes.. |
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redstonecraftpl |
but this is amod |
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redstonecraftpl |
why many fog.. And where i can obtain cub? |
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* Jordach |
pokes VanessaE |
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* jojoa1997 |
pokes Jordach |
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Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/T/TKGGenG_ROeP.png meow~ |
| 13:50 |
jojoa1997 |
Jordach got any suggestions for games I should try? sub-games is it? |
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* Jordach |
gives jojoa1997 shifty eyes |
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Jordach |
BFD :3 |
| 13:52 |
jojoa1997 |
oh there is a subgames section on the forums |
| 13:53 |
jojoa1997 |
How have you been doing Jordach ? |
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Jordach |
alright |
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redstonecraftpl |
I am back |
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redstonecraftpl |
AnD CRAP! Again dont works! |
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jojoa1997 |
Jordach I like BFD |
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jojoa1997 |
Im downloading it now to try it |
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jojoa1997 |
...and the latest minetest build |
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exio4 |
hey, do you should I should buy a thermaltake psu |
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exio4 |
smart m720w +80% bronze |
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redstonecraftpl |
john_minetest: sometimes game start, but sometimes dont. When it dont start, i must delete minetest folder and reinstall it |
| 14:12 |
redstonecraftpl |
next time i will copy files |
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redstonecraftpl |
nothing more :)) |
| 14:13 |
redstonecraftpl |
Oh, one more problem, i cant find server where are no griefers and no 1 player plays.. |
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jojoa1997 |
Try VanessaE's servers |
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jojoa1997 |
also what operating system do you use? |
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jojoa1997 |
redstonecraftpl ^ |
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redstonecraftpl |
Debian 7.7 |
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redstonecraftpl |
amd64 |
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redstonecraftpl |
with xorg(No! Plain text XDD), and MATE(gnome 2 clone) |
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jojoa1997 |
Are you using the debian version or building it yourself |
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jojoa1997 |
I use ubuntu half the time so I am a used to building it and running |
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redstonecraftpl |
i am using actual (downloading isos) |
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jojoa1997 |
wait are you running a live cd? |
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redstonecraftpl |
no |
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redstonecraftpl |
No, i'am not |
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jojoa1997 |
ok. also btw I am pretty sure there is no other way to install debian except through cd images(iso) |
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redstonecraftpl |
or dvd :D |
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ElectronLibre |
(Or by a live USB, same thing, but not same tool) |
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jojoa1997 |
same thing |
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shadowzone |
redstonecraftpl: try selah.us.to/30001 or mtzeno.com/30000 |
| 14:25 |
shadowzone |
those two are pretty good |
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ElectronLibre |
As far as I know, there is no way to install Debian except an image, or downloading the kernel, sources, and to compile by our own. But it would be more a Linux From Scratch at the beggining. |
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redstonecraftpl |
i am on vanessea, will try your later, shadowzone |
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shadowzone |
okay |
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Megaf |
redstonecraftpl: then try mt.megaf.info 30003 |
| 14:37 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/10, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 2ms |
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shadowzone |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/382 |
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ElectronLibre |
Ouch, why? |
| 15:20 |
shadowzone |
Cause it makes it seem more real to life |
| 15:20 |
shadowzone |
dirt in real life falls right? |
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ElectronLibre |
Right, I'm just thinking about the impact on the current mapgen. |
| 15:22 |
shadowzone |
I've tried it, it works just fine. |
| 15:23 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok, so why not.. |
| 15:24 |
shadowzone |
why not what? |
| 15:24 |
ElectronLibre |
But I think it's too late for this modification to be merged for 0.4.11 (release in 2 days if I remember correctly). |
| 15:24 |
ElectronLibre |
Why not accept the modification. |
| 15:24 |
shadowzone |
okay |
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ElectronLibre |
(I just imagine how many of my buildings, like floating farms, are gonna be destroyed by this modification *-*) |
| 15:25 |
shadowzone |
Who has floating farms? |
| 15:26 |
marktraceur |
Wait what |
| 15:26 |
marktraceur |
Dirt's going to fall? |
| 15:26 |
ElectronLibre |
If shadowzone's modification is merged. |
| 15:26 |
marktraceur |
Crazy |
| 15:26 |
marktraceur |
That's too much of a change in the assumptions of the game, methinks |
| 15:26 |
shadowzone |
Yes, I am crazy. |
| 15:27 |
marktraceur |
shadowzone: Any way to make it affect only dirt placed after the patch? |
| 15:27 |
shadowzone |
I can undo to farming_dirt |
| 15:27 |
shadowzone |
so it's only dirt and dirt_with_grass |
| 15:28 |
marktraceur |
Eugh, but I have some dirt floating that isn't farming dirt |
| 15:28 |
marktraceur |
It's for trees. |
| 15:28 |
shadowzone |
so is it just a dumb pull request? |
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Megaf |
[15:20:40] <shadowzone> dirt in real life falls right? |
| 15:33 |
Megaf |
Everything falls in real life... |
| 15:33 |
shadowzone |
True |
| 15:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Chests, trees, apples, cobblestone, etc.. |
| 15:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Even players. |
| 15:34 |
shadowzone |
So was that a dumb pull request? |
| 15:35 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/382#issuecomment-67850182 |
| 15:36 |
shadowzone |
if you want me to close it I Can |
| 15:39 |
Megaf |
Im confused |
| 15:39 |
Megaf |
wasnt that an ElectronLibre push? |
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| 15:39 |
shadowzone |
Nope |
| 15:39 |
shadowzone |
mine |
| 15:40 |
Jordach |
shadowzone, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/T/TKGGenG_ROeP.png |
| 15:40 |
shadowzone |
awwwwe, how cute. |
| 15:42 |
Megaf |
shadowzone: you really want dirt to fall? |
| 15:42 |
shadowzone |
I think it would be cool |
| 15:43 |
Megaf |
shadowzone: and what happens too all tunnels and houses and stuff people built? And caves |
| 15:44 |
ElectronLibre |
Megaf: "I didn't do it". |
| 15:44 |
Megaf |
shadowzone: and dirt is not like gravel in real life, it can stay firmly in place |
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| 15:44 |
shadowzone |
Not very well |
| 15:44 |
Megaf |
shadowzone: What could be could is, a new nod, mud! Real mud, and that mud could fall |
| 15:44 |
Megaf |
and mud could be very similar to dirt |
| 15:44 |
shadowzone |
I suppose that is possible |
| 15:44 |
ElectronLibre |
It would be very easy to create. |
| 15:45 |
ElectronLibre |
And to add in the mapgen like clay. |
| 15:45 |
Megaf |
or even, wet dirt |
| 15:45 |
Megaf |
we have that already |
| 15:45 |
Megaf |
wet dirt could fall |
| 15:45 |
twoelk |
oh dear, doesn't mapgen-mudflow do enough mapgrieving allready? |
| 15:45 |
Megaf |
however, it would destroy lots of farms |
| 15:46 |
* twoelk |
tries to remember some mod that added mudslides |
| 15:46 |
Megaf |
why two falling_node? groups = {crumbly=3, falling_node=1, sand=1, soil = 1,falling_node=1}, |
| 15:47 |
shadowzone |
That was an accident |
| 15:47 |
twoelk |
shadowzone: actually you can burrow in dirt a lot more safely than in sand in real life. |
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Megaf |
twoelk: yep, rabbits, hares and dogs and other animals do that all the time |
| 15:47 |
twoelk |
In minetest it would break a lot of things or at least make them a lot more difficult |
| 15:47 |
marktraceur |
twoelk: You've done a lot of burrowing lately, eh? |
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| 15:48 |
Krock |
Megaf, for faster falling down |
| 15:48 |
twoelk |
I used to when I was smaller ;-) |
| 15:48 |
Megaf |
lmao Krock |
| 15:48 |
Krock |
:P |
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| 15:49 |
twoelk |
for my current size the rabbit hole would rather have to fit a bear or two |
| 15:50 |
Krock |
fill the rabbit holes with antiholes |
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* twoelk |
considers wether he is an anti-hole |
| 15:51 |
Krock |
^ |
| 15:51 |
twoelk |
cheesy eh? |
| 15:51 |
redstonecraftpl |
Vanesea(or something) server is cool |
| 15:52 |
twoelk |
ever seen The Yellow Submarine and that nice portable hole that fits into a pocket? |
| 15:52 |
twoelk |
redstonecraftpl: which one, there are many |
| 15:52 |
Megaf |
redstonecraftpl: would you consider trying my server? |
| 15:53 |
Krock |
We've luck. The chicken produce eggs hich EXACTLY fit in our eggcups! |
| 15:53 |
Krock |
*which |
| 15:53 |
Megaf |
good guy chicken |
| 15:53 |
Megaf |
or girl |
| 15:53 |
Megaf |
or bird |
| 15:54 |
Megaf |
is chicken a bird? |
| 15:54 |
exio4 |
duh, noone said anything :( |
| 15:54 |
Krock |
john_minetest, yeah. true. but I talked about checken eggs |
| 15:54 |
Krock |
*chicken |
| 15:54 |
exio4 |
do you think I should buy a thermaltake M750W PSU, or go for something else |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
exio4: the best PSU I have ever had was a Cooler Master |
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| 15:57 |
twoelk |
Megaf: ever tried this mod? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5691 |
| 15:59 |
Megaf |
heh, thats a modification of lava |
| 15:59 |
Megaf |
it turns dirt into lava_source |
| 15:59 |
Megaf |
mud_source, very interesting |
| 16:01 |
twoelk |
some lag the last time I tried it several mt versions ago |
| 16:02 |
redstonecraftpl |
Megaf: Could you give me IP? |
| 16:02 |
redstonecraftpl |
Megaf: If you want me to try ;p |
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Megaf |
redstonecraftpl: sure |
| 16:05 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
| 16:05 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/10, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 2ms |
| 16:05 |
Megaf |
This one ^ |
| 16:05 |
exio4 |
uh |
| 16:05 |
exio4 |
will look for prices of CM |
| 16:06 |
someguy_irc |
um. |
| 16:06 |
someguy_irc |
help? |
| 16:06 |
Megaf |
lol, vegetation is taking over my server |
| 16:06 |
marktraceur |
Megaf: Bulldoze it all, build parking lots #problemsolved |
| 16:06 |
Megaf |
I dont know if it something from moretrees/plant_lib or something from the current minetest_game |
| 16:06 |
exio4 |
coolermaster is expensive |
| 16:06 |
Megaf |
there are green stuff coming from dirt ceilings |
| 16:07 |
marktraceur |
Wat |
| 16:07 |
Megaf |
and lots of green stuff coming from leaves |
| 16:07 |
marktraceur |
Megaf: "green stuff" |
| 16:07 |
marktraceur |
I don't know what that means. |
| 16:08 |
exio4 |
tentacles |
| 16:08 |
exio4 |
obviously. |
| 16:08 |
Megaf |
exio4: yeah, like that! |
| 16:09 |
someguy_irc |
Megaf,i cant access pastebin on any of my browsers from like for a few weeks, and I just tried to access it with a proxy and it works. |
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someguy_irc |
Megaf, have any clue whats going on o.o |
| 16:10 |
Megaf |
yep, they blocked you IP because they think you are a spammer |
| 16:10 |
someguy_irc |
Wow. |
| 16:10 |
someguy_irc |
OH coME on. |
| 16:10 |
Megaf |
wow |
| 16:10 |
Megaf |
wow, I say wow, look at that |
| 16:10 |
Megaf |
An error occurred during a connection to www.google.com. The server rejected the handshake because the client downgraded to a lower TLS version than the server supports. |
| 16:10 |
someguy_irc |
I just have a few scripts ._. |
| 16:11 |
someguy_irc |
Yea I spam... [NO.] |
| 16:11 |
someguy_irc |
Jesus. |
| 16:11 |
someguy_irc |
but/. |
| 16:12 |
someguy_irc |
Good I can at least log in using the proxy -.- |
| 16:17 |
someguy_irc |
Mefaf. |
| 16:17 |
someguy_irc |
I just found out. |
| 16:17 |
someguy_irc |
pastebin was banned in India? [with a ?] |
| 16:18 |
shadowzone |
LOL |
| 16:18 |
someguy_irc |
shadowzone, there is no reason to "laugh out loud" |
| 16:18 |
someguy_irc |
LOL ^. |
| 16:18 |
shadowzone |
I know |
| 16:19 |
shadowzone |
Just made me laugh |
| 16:19 |
someguy_irc |
Haha, yeah... |
| 16:19 |
Krock |
http://i.imgur.com/1mrUr43.png |
| 16:20 |
exio4 |
what TP? |
| 16:21 |
Krock |
base_game TP |
| 16:21 |
Krock |
it's a mix |
| 16:25 |
Krock |
!tell paramat http://i.imgur.com/3Zak3yx.png |
| 16:25 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: yeah, sure, whatever |
| 16:28 |
Krock |
How to troll newbies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4l7iRJnMg |
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redstonecraftpl |
Megaf |
| 16:42 |
redstonecraftpl |
can you give me perms? |
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shadowzone |
Jordach: check out my first render. http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-JxxF0ld8.1419267353.png |
| 17:05 |
twoelk |
shadowzone: playing with Blender? |
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| 17:07 |
shadowzone |
Yep |
| 17:08 |
twoelk |
cool |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
for images, try lut.im or mediacru.sh |
| 17:09 |
shadowzone |
How does it look so far? |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
…it's just a bunch of cubes |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
also your render doesn't have anti-aliasing |
| 17:10 |
shadowzone |
Calinou: I am 12, just starting blender, don't expect it to be perfect |
| 17:11 |
exio4 |
still better than anything I could ever do with blender |
| 17:11 |
exio4 |
I tried using blender once, I failed to do anything |
| 17:11 |
shadowzone |
Lol |
| 17:12 |
shadowzone |
I've been learning |
| 17:12 |
shadowzone |
very slowly |
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sfan5 |
exio4: r u doge |
| 17:12 |
shadowzone |
but I've been learning |
| 17:12 |
exio4 |
no sfan5 |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
exio4: r u shibe |
| 17:12 |
exio4 |
no |
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shadowzone |
exio4: r u nazi? |
| 17:13 |
exio4 |
lag :/ |
| 17:13 |
exio4 |
no shadowzone, I am your fuhrer |
| 17:13 |
shadowzone |
dammit |
| 17:13 |
shadowzone |
exio4, do u play minetest? |
| 17:14 |
exio4 |
no, I do not play minetest |
| 17:14 |
* ElectronLibre |
remembers he is gonna start a lesson about World War II in January. |
| 17:14 |
shadowzone |
PLAY TEH MINETEST! |
| 17:14 |
exio4 |
shadowzone, would if I could! |
| 17:14 |
twoelk |
actually the venetian doge and the german fuehrer translate to the same meaning - simply leader or guy in front |
| 17:14 |
shadowzone |
why can't you? |
| 17:14 |
exio4 |
shadowzone, using opensource drivers with a crap gpu |
| 17:15 |
exio4 |
and nvidia |
| 17:15 |
shadowzone |
oh.. |
| 17:15 |
exio4 |
would use closed blobs if they were easy to maintain |
| 17:15 |
shadowzone |
Mine was a pretty high end gaming PC 7 years ago |
| 17:15 |
exio4 |
I have spent all the money in actually useful parts |
| 17:16 |
shadowzone |
:/ |
| 17:16 |
exio4 |
the gpu is just because I didn't have an integrated one and needed a place to plug my screen |
| 17:16 |
twoelk |
my current one was a pretty low end pc 5 years ago :-\ |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
shadowzone, anti-aliasing is enabled (8×) by default in renders |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
the render when you press F12 |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
not the OpenGL render, which isn't what you want usually |
| 17:16 |
shadowzone |
hmm |
| 17:17 |
exio4 |
twoelk, mine is only mid-end |
| 17:17 |
twoelk |
also maybe adjust the light source a little |
| 17:17 |
exio4 |
:P but low-end gpu |
| 17:18 |
shadowzone |
Okay |
| 17:20 |
twoelk |
I have severall machines that were state of art when I built them, then I focused on other stuff and when my dad bought a cheap stuff pc I noticed it was better by then than anything I had built |
| 17:20 |
twoelk |
I don't build machines any more 'cause they are outdated when I finish them, I'm to slow :-( |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
hardware doesn't progress as fast as before |
| 17:21 |
twoelk |
you have no idea how slow I am :-D |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
my self-built PC is 1.5 years old or so, but has hardware as old as 3 years |
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twoelk |
most of my pc-cases are 7 years and older. Modern stuff might not fit inside anymore - but they are so beautifully laid out, just can'tz throw them away |
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| 17:27 |
twoelk |
my oldest functional machine is from 1993. Haven't started it for a year now because the monitor for it died. |
| 17:28 |
exio4 |
I didn't even exist in 1993 |
| 17:28 |
twoelk |
oops |
| 17:28 |
exio4 |
my oldest computer is from 2003 :P |
| 17:30 |
exio4 |
over here, 2003, 2010, 2013 |
| 17:30 |
twoelk |
hm, can't think of any electronic device we have that is older than me |
| 17:30 |
exio4 |
I've a 486 next to me, that, well, at least a few years ago, worked |
| 17:31 |
marktraceur |
I have an alarm clock that's from...maybe 2002. But that's the best I can do. |
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exio4 |
uhh |
| 17:32 |
exio4 |
nothing older? |
| 17:33 |
marktraceur |
I don't think so, no. |
| 17:33 |
marktraceur |
And I don't use the clock anymore |
| 17:33 |
* VanessaE |
looks over at her Commodore 128.. does this count? :) |
| 17:33 |
marktraceur |
There might be something older in my storage locker in SF |
| 17:35 |
twoelk |
we do plan to get rid of our 35 years old fridge although it is still working very well |
| 17:35 |
Wayward_One |
I have an original GameBoy... |
| 17:35 |
exio4 |
VanessaE, fatality |
| 17:35 |
twoelk |
it is just too expensive in energy consumption |
| 17:37 |
twoelk |
ah, clocks, we do have some that are pretty old but those are mechanical and don't count |
| 17:38 |
marktraceur |
Wayward_One: Oh, damn, I have a GBA, but I didn't have it until a few years ago. |
| 17:39 |
twoelk |
thinking of that I think we have an apple peeler device that runs in the family for some 100 years now |
| 17:39 |
Megaf |
redstonecraftpl: you there? |
| 17:39 |
Megaf |
I called you on my server but you was standing on the very same place for very long |
| 17:41 |
* Megaf |
thinks that redstonecraftpl have an imensily huge lag |
| 17:43 |
Wayward_One |
marktraceur: nice! |
| 17:45 |
redstonecraftpl |
Megaf: I afk'ed |
| 17:45 |
redstonecraftpl |
sry ;) |
| 17:45 |
Megaf |
redstonecraftpl: interact given by the way |
| 17:46 |
redstonecraftpl |
thx |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
flying pony: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/n/ntiMIwpTpc_y.png |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
there's an animation that removes two of the legs |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/A/AkFPLZfduTAW.png |
| 17:52 |
* twoelk |
wonders wether he should make a flying toasters mod and wether any of the current players would remember where they came from |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
it has flight |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
if you pick the appropriate pony (pegasus or alicorn), then press Shift + Use |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
you cycle between movement modes |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
Space / Shift to move up / down |
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twoelk |
http://www.masswerk.at/flyer/flyer.html rise of the undead flying toaster |
| 18:14 |
Megaf |
Where is vines from? Minetest Game or other mod? |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
plantlife modpack contains it. |
| 18:15 |
Megaf |
oh, I accidentaly enabled it |
| 18:15 |
Megaf |
my map is a mess now |
| 18:15 |
Megaf |
I like it tho |
| 18:15 |
Megaf |
but they are jaming my tree automated farms |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
sorry to hear./ |
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* Calinou |
sets up MG42 |
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VanessaE |
Megaf: there's three or four vines nodes. uninstall the mod, alias those nodes to air, done. |
| 18:17 |
Megaf |
they grom from leaves and block deployers and prevent trunk from growing when sapling grows |
| 18:18 |
Megaf |
but the woods looks much nicier with vines |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
I'm sure you can figure out a workaround then |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
though I could swear I modified that mod to only grow vines on jungle trees |
| 18:36 |
twoelk |
dissabling vines shouldn't be the only option. Maybe some growth rate settings in some config might be more fun |
| 18:37 |
Calinou |
vines are not buildable_to usually, sadly |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
both of these issues can be fixed. |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
one other thing that would help is if the engine had a "hanging node" group similar to attached_node |
| 18:38 |
twoelk |
I liked when you could use vines like ropes for constructing high stuff in nofly environments |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
so that I could auto-cleanup when someone digs away the tree they grew on, etc. |
| 18:38 |
twoelk |
yeah bas080 old request |
| 18:39 |
twoelk |
btw where did Sokomine's invasionofthevines.mts go? |
| 18:39 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
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* twoelk |
searches for his copy |
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twoelk |
oh an updated graph on the http://wiki.minetest.net/Mods page about the most used mods on servers |
| 18:48 |
twoelk |
with more than 70 servers and the more popular mods used around on 20 on those it shows that the servers are indeed pretty diverse |
| 18:49 |
* twoelk |
wonders wether that sentence makes the sense it was planned for :-D |
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Xack |
hi Calinou :) |
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Calinou |
hi Xack |
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Jordach |
hello Sokomine |
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Krock |
twoelk, Top 10 mods, excluding MTG default mods? ^^ |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
top 10 nodes! |
| 19:27 |
Krock |
yesss |
| 19:27 |
Krock |
that'd be either stone or water |
| 19:27 |
Krock |
no wait. It's air |
| 19:27 |
twoelk |
I thinks and also not listing individual mods of mesecons or technic |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
air, stone, water, desert sand, sand, grass, desert stone… |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
probably |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
coal ore? |
| 19:28 |
marktraceur |
Trees |
| 19:29 |
Krock |
I think those materials depend on the server - I doubt moontest has much regular stone |
| 19:29 |
marktraceur |
Oh, no, ignore me |
| 19:29 |
Krock |
Yeah. A tree node. Node. |
| 19:29 |
twoelk |
Krock: also click on the graph to study the different versions over time |
| 19:29 |
Krock |
twoelk, yes I saw. bushes_classic disappeared |
| 19:29 |
marktraceur |
I'd imagine anything underground would be more common than trees |
| 19:30 |
sfan5 |
twoelk: correct, I only list the highest ranked mod of mesecons or worldedit |
| 19:30 |
twoelk |
marktraceur: depends on what has been generated |
| 19:31 |
marktraceur |
twoelk: True, but on average, I'm sure people have generated more undeground than aboveground |
| 19:31 |
marktraceur |
Well...maybe. |
| 19:31 |
twoelk |
sfan5: so the overall count of mesecons might be higher? |
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| 19:32 |
EvergreenTree |
Wow, I dodn't know half the people here. Maybe I should come on irc more often. :P |
| 19:32 |
EvergreenTree |
*don't |
| 19:32 |
EvergreenTree |
First message in a while and I'm already making typos |
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blaise |
hrmm |
| 19:35 |
blaise |
when was minetest-0.4.10 released ? |
| 19:35 |
Krock |
EvergreenTree, same thing here. And I'm online every day |
| 19:35 |
Krock |
blaise, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases |
| 19:36 |
Krock |
> 7 Jul |
| 19:36 |
EvergreenTree |
It was that long ago? wow |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
two days to the release |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
man the battlestations |
| 19:36 |
blaise |
Krock: danke |
| 19:36 |
Krock |
np |
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H-H-H |
4.11? |
| 19:36 |
Krock |
H-H-H, * 0.4.11 |
| 19:37 |
H-H-H |
thats what i meant :P |
| 19:37 |
Krock |
It willrelease in a few days |
| 19:37 |
Krock |
be patient |
| 19:37 |
H-H-H |
is there a changelog i can peer at ? :D |
| 19:38 |
* twoelk |
wonders what all them plasmascreens on the servers are used for |
| 19:38 |
* Krock |
doesn't know if he wants to test 0.2.20110731 |
| 19:38 |
* Krock |
thinks the same as twoelk |
| 19:38 |
Jordach |
[Mine]Test all the things! |
| 19:38 |
Krock |
H-H-H, http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog |
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VanessaE |
twoelk, Calinou, Megaf see plantlife git. your issues should be resolved now. |
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VanessaE |
(re: vines) |
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H-H-H |
ty Krock |
| 19:39 |
Krock |
np |
| 19:39 |
twoelk |
rewind? |
| 19:40 |
Krock |
http://i.imgur.com/g8q5GHV.jpg |
| 19:43 |
* twoelk |
has sampled at times wierd shit and gave it to the doctors to study (turned out to be fossilized dino shit, some really old mega shit) |
| 19:43 |
Krock |
xD |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
yo dawg i heard you like weird shit |
| 19:44 |
H-H-H |
so basially it was Total Sh1t ? :P |
| 19:46 |
twoelk |
so be carefull what shit you produce, some scientists might still be studying it after millions of years |
| 19:47 |
* Megaf |
hates nvidia |
| 19:47 |
Megaf |
I hate nvidia |
| 19:47 |
Megaf |
Have I said that I hate nvidia? |
| 19:48 |
Megaf |
because of this > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162289&p=1 https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/542320/?comment=4055337 https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/525772/efi-support-/ http://martys.typepad.com/blog/2012/10/kubuntu-macbook-efi-and-nvidia.html |
| 19:48 |
Megaf |
In short, nvidia driver crash if you use EFI |
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blaise |
heh |
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* Jordach |
sits there with Legacy mode enabled |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
check and mate |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
“Everyone's using UEFI — and I'm just sitting there using Legacy†—meme |
| 19:50 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: well, it still growing on several trees that are no jungle trees |
| 19:50 |
Megaf |
not* |
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Jordach |
Calinou, UEFI is good, but the goddamn implementation and MS screwing with it killed it |
| 19:51 |
Megaf |
Jordach: on my Toshiba Im using UEFI, and damn, thats quick to boot |
| 19:52 |
Megaf |
a couple of seconds from grub to login screen |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
Megaf, would lovingly change, but W7 here dislikes it |
| 19:52 |
Megaf |
sorry, I use Debian 8 :) |
| 19:52 |
Megaf |
with XFCE |
| 19:52 |
Megaf |
that's fast |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
i'd use it if it Optimus actually worked |
| 19:53 |
Megaf |
Jordach: hm I think it works now a days, doenst it? |
| 19:53 |
Megaf |
I hate this idea of having two GPUs |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
Megaf, dual monitors will be used over here |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
maybe triple if i have the room for it |
| 19:53 |
Calinou |
having two GPUs, one integrated and one dedicated, is done for obvious reasons of battery life |
| 19:53 |
Calinou |
idle dedicated cards can't compete with idle IGPs in terms of power usage |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
Calinou: Macbook Pro 13" 7,1 mid 2010 with nvidia 320M + Snow Leopard = 13 hours of bettery life with wifi |
| 19:54 |
Calinou |
doing nothing? |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
why the fuck do we need a slow intel gpu? |
| 19:54 |
Calinou |
because it would then last longer? |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
Calinou: doing nothing is more than 13 hours |
| 19:54 |
Calinou |
I don't think a 2010 laptop can last 13 hours |
| 19:55 |
Calinou |
measure battery life in practice |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
Calinou: (when new) |
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exio4 |
it can, if you have it suspended |
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exio4 |
also, my UPS + FX (idle) has about hour and half of battery |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
now a days my Mac lasts only about 6 hours of coninuos work with OS X Yosemite |
| 19:55 |
exio4 |
if I use it, about an hour |
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VanessaE |
Megaf: according to the code, that should only happen if there's a jungle tree trunk nearby |
| 19:55 |
exio4 |
if I _actually_ use it, 30 minutes |
| 19:55 |
VanessaE |
(within 10 meters) |
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Megaf |
2:30 hours if I use Debian with nouveau driver... |
| 19:56 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: you are invited to join my server and see with your own eyes whats happening there |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 1/8 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 2ms |
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* VanessaE |
sighs |
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exio4 |
VanessaE, you have an UPS, right? |
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VanessaE |
exio4: two of them. CP1500PFCLCD and also the 1350 model. |
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VanessaE |
(Cyberpower) |
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exio4 |
what is the .. hmm, autonomy? |
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exio4 |
in idle |
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VanessaE |
eh? |
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Krock |
Megaf, dat ping. |
| 20:02 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: hrm. ok there must be some glitch in the code, but you'll notice the vines on leaves are staying close to water like they're supposed to |
| 20:02 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: not really, rejoin please |
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exio4 |
I have a uhh, Hunnox!, UPS, 1200VA/720W, and well, I extrapolated the numbers I pasted before |
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VanessaE |
OH you mean that |
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VanessaE |
eh, I dunno, maybe 10 mins or so at normal load |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
but I'm running three computers off of them |
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Jordach |
sfan5, kitten~ https://cdn.mediacru.sh/U/U1mRUkTo1IjH.png |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
total about 950 watts actual |
| 20:10 |
Megaf |
Jordach: Now, that's really cute |
| 20:10 |
Megaf |
I want that walking around on my server, as Ocelots do in Minecraft |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: :3 |
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Krock |
Jordach, SWEET |
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VanessaE |
Megaf: fixed in git, and it should cause the excess vines to die off as a side effect also. |
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ElectronLibre |
I've never seen more cute blender-kitten. |
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VanessaE |
(die off slowly that is) |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
the kitten looks more like a dog, Jordach. see "Money for Nothing" |
| 20:27 |
VanessaE |
reminds me of the one shown near the beginning of that video |
| 20:27 |
VanessaE |
(it still looks good, just saying) |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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VanessaE |
hey kaeza. |
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kaeza |
happy belated 2000th issue |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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Krock |
#2000 |
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Krock |
ShadowBot! |
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redstonecraftpl |
Do anyone know channel about Playstation One? |
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* ElectronLibre |
wonders if that kind of thing even exists on freenode. |
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luizrpgluiz |
because the old monsters and the rats left the minetest in the new versions? |
| 20:51 |
jin_xi |
luizrpgluiz: use a mod to add animals in newer version |
| 20:52 |
luizrpgluiz |
I wanted to know the reason they had left the new versions, such as rats and onerrik |
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jin_xi |
because change of content system to lua |
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addaitech |
hrm is there any other documentaion for setting up a server on debian? im getting errors going by the wiki |
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redstonecraftpl |
what errors? :D |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, puppies usually have taller heads than kittens |
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Jordach |
i was basing it off of MC's ocelot model and actual kittens, provided by MinetestBot |
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shadowzone |
VanessaE, isis.inchra.net #minetest had a netsplit |
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ElectronLibre |
All the channels had. |
| 21:07 |
ElectronLibre |
If there was someone on a spliting server. |
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Jordach |
shadowzone, u wot m8 |
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addaitech |
let me pastebin them |
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addaitech |
http://pastebin.com/PiVm0f3e |
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addaitech |
never set one of these up, was just going by the wiki, maybe i missed a step |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
addaitech, remove worldid |
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addaitech |
ok |
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Jordach |
worldname i meant |
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addaitech |
http://pastebin.com/vH7J2GEM |
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addaitech |
i got ya :P |
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addaitech |
ahh i see |
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addaitech |
5: Bind failed: Address already in use |
| 21:14 |
Jordach |
now search top, htop or a task manager for an existing minetestserver |
| 21:14 |
Jordach |
kill them all |
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addaitech |
so i'll have to specify an ipv4 |
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addaitech |
or does it always work over v6? |
| 21:15 |
Jordach |
addaitech, you don't need to |
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Jordach |
it should auto detect |
| 21:15 |
Jordach |
kill any process that is named minetestserver |
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addaitech |
i've got a crap load of ips allocated tho |
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Jordach |
addaitech, i run a MT server in a Debian VM |
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Jordach |
which is connected directly to the network |
| 21:18 |
addaitech |
i can just designate one ip for the server though right? |
| 21:18 |
addaitech |
so it doesnt have to go through like the 250+ |
| 21:18 |
Jordach |
yes |
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addaitech |
setting up game servers is my weakness... i used to be good at this stuff lol |
| 21:19 |
addaitech |
wondering if running sid could be causing conflicts as well |
| 21:20 |
Jordach |
there's a minetestserver that is running on the port |
| 21:20 |
Jordach |
check the goddamned htop, top or task manager and kill any other minetestserver |
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luizrpgluiz |
I am wanting a '' teacher '' who can help me generate my block in normal minetest map |
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addaitech |
i did |
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addaitech |
i just started one after killing everything and its still binding to 0.0.0.0 |
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addaitech |
blah i didnt edit the config file to the bind thats probably it |
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addaitech |
that would appear to be the problem, testing now |
| 21:27 |
addaitech |
there we go, got it up and running |
| 21:27 |
addaitech |
Jordach: thanks for the assistance |
| 21:27 |
Jordach |
addaitech, at least we don't have a bukkit's worth of community issues |
| 21:28 |
addaitech |
:P |
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addaitech |
how can i get added to the public server list, if you happen to know how? |
| 21:29 |
addaitech |
lemme check the wiki first |
| 21:29 |
Jordach |
i ain't in the mood to turn my VM back on and read my config |
| 21:31 |
Jordach |
http://paste.debian.net/137767/ |
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addaitech |
i run debian on everything only thing i virtualbox is genymotion |
| 21:31 |
Jordach |
replace anything in <> with a text string |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
including the <> |
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addaitech |
ah ok, thanks for the help :) |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
my address points at jordach.minetest.net |
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Jordach |
ElectronLibre, oh, you're [Mg]. that's something i learned |
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ElectronLibre |
You didn't know it? |
| 21:34 |
Jordach |
nopwe |
| 21:34 |
Jordach |
just saw the username |
| 21:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Mg is my MT-nickname, Magnesium's chemical symbol. But it's a registered username on FreeNode so I've picked my second one. |
| 21:36 |
ElectronLibre |
(But I've kept Mg for InchraNet because it was not already registered, and because it's really in connection with Minetest so it would be weird to pick another one). |
| 21:37 |
ElectronLibre |
*would have been weird |
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Jordach |
you caught me out for a while on GitHub too |
| 21:39 |
ElectronLibre |
While using "LeMagnesium" as my account name (TheMagnesium). |
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ElectronLibre |
(I try to keep a connection with chemistery in my nicknames it's the only way to find out who I am) |
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Jordach |
ElectronLibre, electron isn't chemistry, it's more of atomic science :) |
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ElectronLibre |
Yes, let's say I try to stay in the domain of sciences. |
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exio4 |
what is your codomain ElectronLibre? |
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exio4 |
are you an endomorphism? |
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ElectronLibre_ |
F**** internet connection -_- |
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ElectronLibre_ |
exio4: Are we talking about functions, or nicknames? |
| 22:04 |
exio4 |
about morphisms! |
| 22:05 |
ElectronLibre |
I've not get that message I think ._. |
| 22:06 |
exio4 |
!g endomorphisms |
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MinetestBot |
exio4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endomorphism |
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exio4 |
it is a category theory I barely can use |
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exio4 |
but it is basically a morphism with the domain being the same as the codomain |
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exio4 |
you can think of morphisms are generalization of functions btw |
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* ElectronLibre |
has got such an impression to be flooding the chan with his parts/joins. |
| 22:09 |
ElectronLibre |
Next time I'm sure I will be kindly redirected to ##_fir_your_connection -_- |
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ElectronLibre |
*##fix |
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exio4 |
I hate this homebanking page |
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exio4 |
also, it is 100% javascript |
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ElectronLibre |
Anyway, I've got to go.. So.. exio4, if I've got enough connection, I will read the logs, and answer your question next time I join. |
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exio4 |
<3 don't worry |
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ProXavi |
Hello? Operators for isis #minetest we need your help |
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ProXavi |
Hello!? |
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shadowzone |
hi ProXavi |
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ProXavi |
Lol |
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Jordach |
http://youtu.be/HZbq_QMBg6c might speed up the framerate a bit |
| 23:07 |
twoelk |
seems like legs coulöd move a little faster |
| 23:07 |
Jordach |
was considering that |
| 23:07 |
twoelk |
*could |
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Jordach |
they are spaced 24 frames apart :P |
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twoelk |
also one seemed to jump while sitting |
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Jordach |
simple mobs can't handle everything |
| 23:09 |
Jordach |
they jump around like kittens |
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Jordach |
that's all that matters |
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twoelk |
so entity movement and shown animation are not related? |
| 23:10 |
Jordach |
yes |
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Jordach |
it's the engine not updating the clients fast enough |
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Jordach |
you can see this with mesh chests i made a while back |
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twoelk |
that explains a lot |
| 23:10 |
Jordach |
it desyncs rather easily |
| 23:11 |
twoelk |
so doing more detailed movements is pretty useless at the moment :-( |
| 23:12 |
Jordach |
my mesh chest has around 10 seconds of shutting time due to UDP lag |
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Jordach |
it originally had 3 |
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twoelk |
I wonder how second life did it. They did have some convincing animations the last time I was on such a server |
| 23:15 |
Jordach |
twoelk, client side magic |
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Jordach |
which we don't have |
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twoelk |
don't know , maybe animation sequences could be stored in the chache? |
| 23:17 |
twoelk |
eh, media cache |
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Jordach |
think of animations are played back like an audio file |
| 23:17 |
Jordach |
it can only be in one place at a time |
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Jordach |
and at a certain speed |
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twoelk |
I'm not really sure about this |
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twoelk |
I always thought the player mesh is downloaded on connection and it contains all animations |
| 23:20 |
Jordach |
it is |
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Jordach |
the animations are played back like a ogg file |
| 23:20 |
Jordach |
it has to go left to right, at any speed |
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twoelk |
ok, so if mobs work the same, all that is communicated is the trigger |
| 23:22 |
Jordach |
exactly, and said trigger can get lost in transmission |
| 23:22 |
Jordach |
meaning that they desync, which is visible in the video |
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twoelk |
poor lost trigger wandering the net |
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twoelk |
ok so the cat got the command to jump but why does that not trigger the right animation on time? |
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sfan5 |
meow |
| 23:24 |
twoelk |
sounds legit |
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Jordach |
twoelk, entities may have movement prediction via vectors |
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* Jordach |
considers adding fishing into BFD to make it more suface-worldy instead of undergroundy |
| 23:27 |
Jordach |
also, there was once a Minetest Game based BFD prototype which got lost |
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twoelk |
I very much assume animation is somewhat bound to entity movement, so the getting out of sync must come from elsewhere |
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Jordach |
twoelk, betcha by 1.0 it'll be fixed |
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* Jordach |
sighs |
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twoelk |
we might have to go through some 0.4.111 before that |
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proller |
Jordach, why you call kittens "AI" ? |
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Jordach |
proller, because they're programmically bound |
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twoelk |
fishing cats might be fun as any mob to mob interaction |
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Jordach |
thus artificial intelligence |
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jin_xi |
its fuzzy logic :3 |
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proller |
Jordach, no, its full random shit |
| 23:30 |
Jordach |
(in fact the random jumping seems to make the kittens alive, might either fix said bug or leave it) |
| 23:30 |
twoelk |
don' |
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proller |
doom2 have much better "ai" |
| 23:31 |
twoelk |
hear* |
| 23:31 |
twoelk |
so proller, any idea how doom2 pulls it of? |
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Jordach |
hm, the jumping appears to be related to the collision box |
| 23:33 |
proller |
twoelk, doom have very simple ai, but it looks ok |
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Jordach |
proller, limited to a 2d space extrapolated to a 3d space |
| 23:33 |
Jordach |
they only have to manage x and y |
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proller |
it was written 20 years ago |
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proller |
on computers 100x slower than current watch |
| 23:34 |
addaitech |
ok there we go got the server up now atleast |
| 23:34 |
Jordach |
so you're expecting a fully buildable and destructable world with 1^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000^100000000000000000000 combos to have a speedy AI |
| 23:34 |
twoelk |
programs had to be faster in those days because of slow hardware |
| 23:34 |
proller |
on current cpus you can make ai acting exactly as human |
| 23:35 |
Jordach |
and the video was recorded at a perfect 60FPS |
| 23:35 |
Jordach |
http://youtu.be/XqKtijAtox4 twoelk, sped up anims |
| 23:35 |
proller |
not in lua of course |
| 23:36 |
* twoelk |
has long since thought that mob ai should play in another sandbox than the main game |
| 23:36 |
twoelk |
viewing video now |
| 23:36 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: <3 kittens |
| 23:37 |
Jordach |
sfan5, will be adding a variant of fishing to give the kittens food |
| 23:37 |
sfan5 |
:3 |
| 23:39 |
twoelk |
looks better Jordach |
| 23:39 |
twoelk |
now let them out into the open andd catch some mice/rats ;-P |
| 23:40 |
Jordach |
twoelk, eventually i can add soul gears, which are extremely rare and have an ultimate usage: turning player statues into living entities |
| 23:41 |
twoelk |
pygmalion would be happy |
| 23:41 |
Jordach |
oerkkis both drop a Sam II statues and soul gears |
| 23:43 |
twoelk |
hm the Pygmalion and Geppetto touch in contrast to Midas and Medusa |
| 23:44 |
Jordach |
there is one special case where you can create two different evergreens, one made of stoneflesh while the other is oakflesh |
| 23:44 |
Jordach |
twoelk, if someone decides to unfairly kill kittens to find an air sword, then they don't deserve it |
| 23:45 |
twoelk |
maybe some bad karma system? |
| 23:45 |
Jordach |
twoelk, it's 1/400000 |
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| 23:56 |
kaeza |
<Jordach> so you're expecting a fully buildable and destructable world with 1^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000^100000000000000000000 combos to have a speedy AI |
| 23:56 |
kaeza |
so 1 combination? :P |
| 23:57 |
kaeza |
oh, he's dead |
| 23:59 |
Jordach |
eh |
