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hmmmm |
iio7, sounds like you should update minetest_game |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: mapgen.lua: Add dirt/sand/gravel blob ores for mgv5/mgv7 3b526a7 http://git.io/AEFh (2015-02-22T01:34:35Z) |
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Greycoat |
Okay, I have a fork of Technic at https://github.com/BluebirdGreycoat/technic |
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Greycoat |
New features: |
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Greycoat |
1) HV furnace |
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Greycoat |
2) Control logic units can be configured to send a variable number of items per "tick". |
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Greycoat |
I'm looking for opinions on the code before submitting a pull request. |
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* Calinou |
is doing 3d_armor modpack update to Carbone |
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Calinou |
OptiPNG'ing all the textures |
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Calinou |
most have 40-50 % decrease |
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Calinou |
https://github.com/Calinou/minetest-3d_armor/commit/d95f494a94d6d1b24b62d2bd8aaf99c0611b3a8c |
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Calinou |
heh, thanks |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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wow |
Hello! |
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wow |
I will like to know how to play this minetest. I am new to the game |
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wow |
I have installed it on a Fedora 21 machine |
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wow |
Thanks! |
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rubenwardy |
How far have you got? |
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Calinou |
wow, http://wiki.minetest.net/Getting_started |
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rubenwardy |
!wiki Tutorial |
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MinetestBot |
No such page. |
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rubenwardy |
!wiki Tutorial_Game |
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MinetestBot |
No such page. |
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rubenwardy |
!wiki Tutorial_game |
| 11:02 |
Calinou |
also try the Tutorial subgame |
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rubenwardy |
:S |
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Calinou |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Games/Tutorial |
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rubenwardy |
http://home.rubenwardy.com:5000/chapters/lua.html |
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rubenwardy |
Any suggestions? |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, in your modding guide, you could add an “image optimization†part |
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Calinou |
using OptiPNG, add an example command to optimize all textures |
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Calinou |
saves a lot of space with most textures (20-50 %) |
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Calinou |
also I can't connect to your page |
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rubenwardy |
Try now |
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rubenwardy |
I was hosting on 127.0.0.1 not 0.0.0.0 |
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wow |
Thanks Calinou. That was helpful |
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Birdy_ |
anyone here |
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Krock |
nope, everyone's gone |
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TheBonsai |
including me |
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Krock |
yeah, by "everyone" is each person and bot meant |
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Birdy_ |
didnt think people would actaully respond |
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Birdy_ |
im just going to state this ok. please don't be shallow |
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rubenwardy |
:S http://home.rubenwardy.com:5000/chapters/lua.html#coding-in-lua |
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rubenwardy |
Hi Zeno`! |
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Zeno` |
hi! |
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rubenwardy |
Working on this: http://home.rubenwardy.com:5000/chapters/lua.html#coding-in-lua |
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rubenwardy |
But, meh |
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Zeno` |
It looks good to me |
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Zeno` |
good idea |
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Zeno` |
I use kate myself |
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rubenwardy |
I used to, but I moved to XFCE |
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rubenwardy |
or whatever it is called |
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Zeno` |
errr... xfce is not an editor :D |
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rubenwardy |
Doesn't Kate require KDE? |
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Zeno` |
it requires kdelibs, yeah |
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Zeno` |
hmm... maybe not. Maybe only Qt |
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Zeno` |
not really sure |
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Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tQfcEfifJg |
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Zeno` |
we should have a party! :D |
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rubenwardy |
Yay? |
| 11:40 |
Zeno` |
yay! |
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* Zeno` |
sets up the disco |
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Zeno` |
this'll be awesome |
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Nihao |
Hello, I need your help once more. I am discovering "pipeworks" and would like to know about the way the different pipes are supposed to work. The README says to go to "http://vanessae.github.io/pipeworks/", but my browser thinks there is nothing at that address.... |
| 11:44 |
Zeno` |
who is supplying the drinks? |
| 11:44 |
Nihao |
Mainly, I am interested in two points for the moment: Why does "one way tube" transport in either direction? And what is the logics to configure the sorting tube? |
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rubenwardy_ |
There isn't any there |
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rubenwardy_ |
https://github.com/vanessae/pipeworks/wiki |
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Nihao |
rubenwardy_: Thank you! |
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nore |
Nihao: the "one way tube" transports only is the direction of its arrow |
| 11:46 |
Nihao |
nore: I expected that, but it is wrong. |
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nore |
moreover, it has priority over normal tubes iirc |
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nore |
what?? |
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Zeno` |
I dedicate this next song to VanessaE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSLPH9d-jsI |
| 11:47 |
nore |
just checked it should be one-way only |
| 11:47 |
Nihao |
hm, I used it with furnaces and they threw their outputs at each other. |
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nore |
do you have an image of your setup? |
| 11:48 |
Nihao |
...I destroyed it and went to creative server for testing. |
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nore |
(btw, if you just want to route items, high-priority tubes are the best) |
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Zeno` |
sfan5, do all the serialize calls for database NOT call zlib compress? |
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sfan5 |
they do |
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Zeno` |
they all call zlib's compress? |
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Zeno` |
for db blobs? |
| 11:50 |
Nihao |
I would just ned a technical spec, I am sure to be able to figure out things afterwards. |
| 11:50 |
nore |
well, it *should* be one way only |
| 11:50 |
Zeno` |
or... as I suspect, is serialize different for the db? |
| 11:50 |
nore |
if it's not, there's a bug |
| 11:50 |
sfan5 |
Zeno`: zlib compress is called on the raw block data, the rest of the mapblock is uncompressed |
| 11:50 |
Nihao |
nore: The order was (using one way tubes): Autocrafter tube furnace tube furnace |
| 11:51 |
Nihao |
+ chest |
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sfan5 |
Zeno`: s/block/node/ |
| 11:51 |
nore |
technic furnaces? |
| 11:51 |
Nihao |
From right to left. |
| 11:51 |
Nihao |
MV furnace, yes |
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nore |
ah.. the problem is that you have to rotate them to control their output direction |
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Gael-de-Sailly |
Hello |
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Zeno` |
sfan5, is there some technical reason for that? |
| 11:52 |
Nihao |
.....and one way tube does what? |
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nore |
hi |
| 11:52 |
Nihao |
Salut. |
| 11:52 |
nore |
nope, one way tube just prevents items from being inserted in them the wrong way |
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sfan5 |
Zeno`: reason? it's done to save space |
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nore |
but technic machines do not check that |
| 11:53 |
Gael-de-Sailly |
I have this problem with the framed_glasslike drawtype : http://i.imgur.com/QY4L8cf.png |
| 11:53 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPHJFnob8p8 |
| 11:53 |
Nihao |
nore: I need the spec. I can not read the code so well and there are not many comments inside. |
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Gael-de-Sailly |
The internal edges should be hidden, they are not |
| 11:53 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, at the expense of performance |
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nore |
the spec is: |
| 11:53 |
Zeno` |
zlib is slower than my pet snail |
| 11:54 |
nore |
look at all the neighboring tubes/tubedevices that accept input |
| 11:54 |
sfan5 |
not really |
| 11:54 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, I've profiled it. Have you? |
| 11:54 |
nore |
get those with highest priority |
| 11:54 |
sfan5 |
Zeno`: no, but if you choose the right compression level zlib is not that slow |
| 11:54 |
nore |
(so: high-priority is 150 IIRC, chest/etc is 100, one-way tube is 75 and other tubes are 50) |
| 11:55 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, it's slower than the render loop |
| 11:55 |
nore |
and send item in one of those tubes with highest priority in a round-robin way |
| 11:55 |
sfan5 |
Zeno`: if it's that slow ask celeron55 why he did that |
| 11:56 |
sfan5 |
Zeno`: it's been like this since minetest could save maps |
| 11:56 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, I think we all know what the answer will be :D |
| 11:56 |
Nihao |
nore: And thus, having two nodes linked by exactly one one way tube, that tube can work either way? |
| 11:56 |
Nihao |
nore: Lets forget the one way tube for a while. |
| 11:56 |
Zeno` |
I'm just saying that if stuff is going to be broken then it should be broken properly |
| 11:57 |
nore |
no, the problem is that technic furnaces *do not check* whether an item is allowed to enter |
| 11:57 |
sfan5 |
you don't want to compress block data |
| 11:57 |
sfan5 |
? |
| 11:57 |
nore |
they'll send it anyway |
| 11:57 |
nore |
so, if there is a one-way tube |
| 11:57 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, I'd like a choice as to the compression method used |
| 11:57 |
nore |
it will act as if it was a normal tube |
| 11:57 |
Zeno` |
and that choice should include no compression at all |
| 11:57 |
sfan5 |
why would anyone do that? |
| 11:58 |
nore |
you need to rotate your furnaces to make them eject items in the correct direction |
| 11:58 |
Zeno` |
do what? |
| 11:58 |
Zeno` |
not compress? |
| 11:58 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 11:58 |
Zeno` |
because HDD space is cheap |
| 11:58 |
nore |
sfan5: if one doesn't care about map size |
| 11:58 |
nore |
and want fast map access |
| 11:58 |
nore |
s/want/wants |
| 11:58 |
sfan5 |
fast map access? |
| 11:58 |
sfan5 |
as in more data == faster |
| 11:58 |
sfan5 |
? |
| 11:58 |
nore |
it may be faster if not compressed |
| 11:59 |
Zeno` |
yes, fast map access |
| 11:59 |
nore |
you don't have to uncompress |
| 11:59 |
sfan5 |
correct |
| 11:59 |
sfan5 |
but it requires more reading speed to be actually faster |
| 11:59 |
nore |
yep |
| 12:00 |
nore |
but with SSD drives, that may be the case |
| 12:00 |
Nihao |
OK, thanks. I will continue experimenting. |
| 12:00 |
nore |
np |
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Zeno` |
I dedicate this next song to sfan5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXxJeEMmFDM |
| 12:12 |
Zeno` |
yeah! |
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* Zeno` |
stands on desk |
| 12:14 |
Zeno` |
'tis hard being dj |
| 12:15 |
Zeno` |
this is for celeron55: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw |
| 12:16 |
Krock |
this is for Zeno`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUwW108ITzw |
| 12:16 |
Zeno` |
lol Krock |
| 12:16 |
Zeno` |
I quite like it |
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* Zeno` |
jives |
| 12:17 |
Zeno` |
geeee how good would it be for meeeeee |
| 12:18 |
Zeno` |
bye bye baby don't make me cry |
| 12:18 |
Zeno` |
good choice. Thank you Krock for the contribution |
| 12:18 |
Krock |
wait. I got another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ |
| 12:19 |
Krock |
RickRoll'd |
| 12:19 |
Zeno` |
AWESOME! |
| 12:19 |
Zeno` |
80s pop FTW! |
| 12:19 |
* Zeno` |
puts on his sunglasses |
| 12:19 |
Zeno` |
lmfao |
| 12:20 |
Zeno` |
I kinda like this song |
| 12:20 |
Krock |
yeah, it's not that bad but still funny to lead people to it |
| 12:21 |
Zeno` |
give you up! |
| 12:21 |
Zeno` |
never never never gonna |
| 12:21 |
Zeno` |
oh oh oh |
| 12:21 |
Zeno` |
I have something awesome |
| 12:22 |
Zeno` |
something special: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu5zd5fCaPA |
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Krock |
is that 720p? |
| 12:23 |
Krock |
jk, sounds cool |
| 12:23 |
Zeno` |
doesn't look like it. Some kind of modified version of soundtracker playing it |
| 12:24 |
Zeno` |
pretty cool for the simple PC speaker (IMO) |
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Zeno` |
only coders might find it cool though :( |
| 12:30 |
Zeno` |
this is dedicated to nzxrt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9layb9U46OY |
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Zeno` |
Dedicated to hmmmm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LmnP7wZUck |
| 12:34 |
Zeno` |
xD |
| 12:36 |
Zeno` |
look at those smooth dance moves! |
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* Zeno` |
replays the hmmmm song |
| 12:40 |
Zeno` |
damn me... that would be better than rick roll |
| 12:40 |
* Zeno` |
starts bananaramarolling other channels |
| 12:42 |
Zeno` |
for Zeno`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Q3mHyzn78 |
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Zeno` |
this is a good radio |
| 12:47 |
Krock |
"this"? |
| 12:49 |
Zeno` |
yeah |
| 12:49 |
Zeno` |
in fact... |
| 12:49 |
Zeno` |
i love the radio |
| 12:49 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oKz5YB4028 |
| 12:50 |
Krock |
wait. I remember a scene like that one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktbhw0v186Q |
| 12:51 |
Zeno` |
do you want a drink? |
| 12:52 |
Krock |
no thanks |
| 12:52 |
Zeno` |
ok then. Maybe I didn't treat you quite as good as I should've |
| 12:53 |
Zeno` |
I'm so sorry :( |
| 12:53 |
Zeno` |
You are always on my mind |
| 12:54 |
Zeno` |
would a PSB clip with lady gaga be better? |
| 12:54 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3X1aExRYqs |
| 12:57 |
Zeno` |
I know you love it, Krock |
| 12:57 |
Krock |
meh. I prefer non-battles |
| 12:57 |
Krock |
but okay, not bad. |
| 12:58 |
Zeno` |
lol |
| 12:58 |
Krock |
What's going on with youtube? I can't play the videos on VLC anymore |
| 12:59 |
Zeno` |
even xkcd mentions go west |
| 13:00 |
Zeno` |
http://uni.xkcd.com/ |
| 13:00 |
Zeno` |
go west |
| 13:00 |
Zeno` |
go west |
| 13:06 |
Krock |
VanessaE closed the ISIS IRC server :( |
| 13:09 |
Zeno` |
nah, just waiting for DNS to propogate maybe? |
| 13:09 |
Amaz |
She closed it. |
| 13:09 |
Zeno` |
hmm |
| 13:09 |
Amaz |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7017&p=170785#p170785 |
| 13:10 |
Zeno` |
she still has the server though |
| 13:10 |
Zeno` |
just a different name |
| 13:10 |
Krock |
the terrorists attacked the server's name! |
| 13:10 |
Amaz |
XD |
| 13:10 |
Zeno` |
isis still hosts ircd |
| 13:10 |
Zeno` |
oh |
| 13:10 |
Zeno` |
oriris |
| 13:11 |
Zeno` |
silly |
| 13:11 |
Zeno` |
this next song on radio #minetest is dedicated to Amaz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIRfXznFzRY |
| 13:12 |
Krock |
how 'bout a playlist? |
| 13:12 |
Zeno` |
for their sorrow regarding isis |
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* Zeno` |
give permission to Krock to add a song to the playlist |
| 13:15 |
Zeno` |
sadness is pretty cool though |
| 13:15 |
Zeno` |
(IMO) |
| 13:15 |
Zeno` |
sadeness |
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Zeno` |
And this is for ShadowNinja: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLXWDaVYNN8 |
| 13:37 |
Zeno` |
I wouldn't mind a slice either :/ |
| 13:39 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGWQfK-6DY |
| 13:43 |
Zeno` |
for cheapie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILWSp0m9G2U |
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Zeno` |
for kahrl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhKe-Z-NhBs |
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Zeno` |
For CWz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpIe95cS2JM |
| 13:53 |
VanessaE |
Krock, Amaz: the server is osiris.inchra.net now. just use irc.inchra.net |
| 13:54 |
Amaz |
Yep, I'm using irc.inchra.net. |
| 13:54 |
Zeno` |
For VanessaE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wssIZOBV9i4 |
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VanessaE |
Zeno`: blocked. |
| 13:55 |
Zeno` |
pfft :( |
| 13:55 |
VanessaE |
(UMG, copyright grounds) |
| 13:55 |
Zeno` |
belinda carlisle summer rain |
| 13:57 |
* Zeno` |
dances on his desk |
| 13:58 |
Zeno` |
I think I've played a song for most people now |
| 13:58 |
Zeno` |
some have missed their songs :P |
| 13:58 |
Zeno` |
:) |
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Zeno` |
oh dear |
| 14:00 |
Zeno` |
I'd already played a song for VanessaE |
| 14:00 |
VanessaE |
speaking of rain, it finally warmed up here a bit. back in the positive side of the thermometer and the snow has melted, for now |
| 14:00 |
CryptoNaut |
I need to find all the parameters to dial down the system requirements for minetest |
| 14:00 |
CryptoNaut |
I think I overheated my gpu last time I played |
| 14:00 |
CryptoNaut |
(since it ended in a system crash after a handful of rendering hiccups) |
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| 14:03 |
VanessaE |
you probably overheated your CPU. |
| 14:04 |
VanessaE |
minetest doesn't actually do much with the GPU |
| 14:04 |
Calinou |
http://i.imgur.com/FpvaRSu.jpg |
| 14:04 |
Calinou |
mapgen trollface |
| 14:04 |
CryptoNaut |
no? ah, well, both of mine lack cooling, it's been fine with most load cases so far, I guess I found an application to push the limits of ultra low voltage |
| 14:04 |
Calinou |
by twoelk |
| 14:05 |
init |
how can you make a modern CPU overheat with stock cooling |
| 14:05 |
CryptoNaut |
init: it's not stock, it's stock -fan |
| 14:05 |
CryptoNaut |
the bearing died some 3 years ago =) |
| 14:05 |
CryptoNaut |
rarely overheats tho |
| 14:05 |
init |
oh well |
| 14:05 |
CryptoNaut |
I don't push it hard |
| 14:05 |
init |
CryptoNaut: get an h60, they're really cool |
| 14:05 |
CryptoNaut |
ultra low voltage for the win |
| 14:05 |
CryptoNaut |
init: which maker is that? |
| 14:06 |
init |
corsair |
| 14:06 |
CryptoNaut |
sounds like a desktop upgrade manufacturer |
| 14:06 |
CryptoNaut |
I'm using a laptop |
| 14:06 |
init |
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-series-h60-cpu-cooler |
| 14:06 |
init |
oh |
| 14:06 |
CryptoNaut |
I'm planning on hitting the local stores monday morning |
| 14:06 |
init |
I thought it was a desktop |
| 14:06 |
CryptoNaut |
to buy a new laptop, this 6 year old has outlived it's usefulness |
| 14:07 |
init |
all my 6yo+ desktops still work |
| 14:07 |
init |
I still use two of them as servers |
| 14:07 |
CryptoNaut |
this one has had threefold failure |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
local stores in 2015? :/ |
| 14:08 |
CryptoNaut |
screen frame failure that started early, battery failure that concluded sooner than the screen frame failure progress, and then, a couple years in the fan bearing failed, hah |
| 14:08 |
shadowzone |
init, I see what you did there. |
| 14:08 |
init |
shadowzone: oh really? |
| 14:08 |
shadowzone |
<init> CryptoNaut: get an h60, they're really cool |
| 14:08 |
CryptoNaut |
Calinou: they still have 'em here |
| 14:08 |
CryptoNaut |
shadowzone: nice pun eh? |
| 14:08 |
shadowzone |
Yeah |
| 14:08 |
shadowzone |
they're really "cool" |
| 14:08 |
CryptoNaut |
I'm not quite sure which laptop for running linux I should get, I'm thinking i should limit myself to intel graphics chips |
| 14:08 |
Krock |
init, I'm here on a motherboard from 05/23/2006 and minetest still runs on it :P |
| 14:09 |
CryptoNaut |
supposedly best driver support |
| 14:09 |
init |
Krock: all my "desktops" only had low-end IGPs, so I can barely do anything "modern" with them :( |
| 14:09 |
CryptoNaut |
minetest would probably run fine here, if I invested in fixing the fan on this pile of crap |
| 14:09 |
init |
and right now my mid-end desktop has a really low-end GPU so yeah |
| 14:10 |
Calinou |
CryptoNaut, stick with Intel |
| 14:10 |
Calinou |
only proper graphics manufacturer |
| 14:10 |
Calinou |
just get an i7, which have faster IGPs |
| 14:10 |
shadowzone |
Mine is a modified dell vostro. |
| 14:10 |
shadowzone |
Like VERY modified. |
| 14:10 |
shadowzone |
the only thing left of it is the case. |
| 14:10 |
init |
only the name stands? |
| 14:10 |
Krock |
init, is using a newer graphics card no soulation? |
| 14:10 |
CryptoNaut |
Calinou: that's new slang for gpu yes? |
| 14:10 |
init |
Krock: no PCI-E, no AGP, not going to spend money in a new mobo |
| 14:10 |
Calinou |
IGP = Integrated Graphics Processor |
| 14:11 |
init |
CryptoNaut: I'd only stick with Intel in laptops |
| 14:11 |
CryptoNaut |
I don't think I'll spend the cash on an i7 tho, i5 or i3 maybe |
| 14:11 |
CryptoNaut |
I dunno |
| 14:11 |
Krock |
there are mainboards with IGP and AGP/PCI |
| 14:11 |
CryptoNaut |
I'm going for a dirt cheap price point |
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CryptoNaut |
below 600 eur |
| 14:11 |
init |
I really like my actual setup :D |
| 14:11 |
init |
cheap worthless laptop + decent desktop |
| 14:13 |
init |
I can upgrade the desktop as I go (SSD, more HDDs, extra ram, CPU upgrade, 4new PSU, 4new case, 4new cooling, 4add UPS, etc) easily :3 |
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Krock |
why do you need UPS? |
| 14:14 |
rubenwardy |
Yo mates! |
| 14:14 |
CryptoNaut |
to work through the power interruptions? |
| 14:14 |
Krock |
CryptoNaut, well here in Europe, there are 1 maybe 2 interruptions per year :3 |
| 14:15 |
Krock |
dunno about other places |
| 14:15 |
init |
I live in a rural area, so it isn't _that_ good |
| 14:15 |
CryptoNaut |
Krock: here in my parts of europe rural bits can get brown outs and such, altho I don't get that here in the city |
| 14:16 |
init |
and I don't live in europe! |
| 14:16 |
CryptoNaut |
just straight black outs when some substation blows |
| 14:16 |
CryptoNaut |
hah |
| 14:16 |
CryptoNaut |
but most times I power down is to be safe during overhead thunder storms |
| 14:16 |
init |
Argentina |
| 14:17 |
init |
CryptoNaut: yeah, pretty much over here, heavy thunder storms tends to fuck up some line => power interruption |
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init |
but being able to change power lines or so easily (our houses has two lines, mostly for $$$ reasons) |
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rubenwardy |
Zeno`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJPqJwdCXpw |
| 14:18 |
Zeno` |
The Vaccines! |
| 14:19 |
rubenwardy |
Yay! |
| 14:19 |
shadowzone |
Good morning/afternoon/evening, Zeno`. |
| 14:19 |
Zeno` |
hi shadowzone |
| 14:19 |
Zeno` |
The Vaccines are pretty cool |
| 14:19 |
init |
it's probably like 4AM in Zeno`'s side |
| 14:20 |
init |
am I right? |
| 14:20 |
Zeno` |
only 12:20AM |
| 14:20 |
init |
uh, right, checked my _local_ hour wrong |
| 14:21 |
Zeno` |
hmm |
| 14:22 |
Zeno` |
actually I dedicated another remix of this song to someone else earlier... but it should really be to shadowzone |
| 14:22 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84DZ_kecKUo |
| 14:23 |
* shadowzone |
listens |
| 14:23 |
shadowzone |
that is kinda cool |
| 14:23 |
Zeno` |
it's your song |
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| 14:24 |
Zeno` |
this was the version I played earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpIe95cS2JM |
| 14:24 |
Zeno` |
I rededicate all versions to you |
| 14:25 |
shadowzone |
Okay.. |
| 14:25 |
* Zeno` |
rocks |
| 14:25 |
CryptoNaut |
init: we've had hardware burnt out when out of the house and thunder happening before, so it's taught me caution during the storms =P |
| 14:25 |
shadowzone |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4RfZojIyhA Zeno` your song just cuz I can't think of anything else |
| 14:26 |
Zeno` |
lmao :D |
| 14:26 |
init |
CryptoNaut: yes, me too, but sometimes I realize it's raining when the power goes down |
| 14:26 |
CryptoNaut |
init: raining? |
| 14:26 |
Zeno` |
yeah! |
| 14:26 |
init |
and, we've a controlled powercut every month in my house |
| 14:27 |
* Zeno` |
is a sharp dressed man |
| 14:27 |
init |
CryptoNaut: wut? |
| 14:27 |
CryptoNaut |
init: how is rain relevant, I'm confused |
| 14:27 |
Krock |
I signed in on my computer 3456 times but the mainboard only has 93 starts |
| 14:27 |
Krock |
a mystery |
| 14:27 |
Zeno` |
shadowzone, john fogerty originally sang that |
| 14:28 |
shadowzone |
Cool |
| 14:28 |
CryptoNaut |
Krock: maybe mainboard counter only has something like 7 or 8 bits of counter? |
| 14:28 |
Zeno` |
since I am to be associated with JF... can I have this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06_0ApzkzY? |
| 14:28 |
init |
CryptoNaut: uhm? thunderstorms come with heavy rain |
| 14:29 |
CryptoNaut |
init: so you have a hypothesis that you never hear the thunder, but there's power outages during rain? |
| 14:29 |
CryptoNaut |
still confused |
| 14:29 |
CryptoNaut |
I can always hear the thunder here |
| 14:29 |
CryptoNaut |
well, if it gets close enough anyway |
| 14:29 |
Krock |
CryptoNaut, I doupt that. Either is it ereased by replacing the CMOS battery or it's because it's still the old HDD on another mainboard :P |
| 14:29 |
CryptoNaut |
Krock: what's counting the sign-ins anyway |
| 14:29 |
shadowzone |
Zeno`, okay |
| 14:30 |
Krock |
CryptoNaut, Winwipe. |
| 14:30 |
init |
CryptoNaut: I use headphones, and my room has thick walls/roof, if I was in the living room I would notice it :P |
| 14:30 |
Zeno` |
shadowzone, hmm. Ok I trust your judgement. lol |
| 14:30 |
CryptoNaut |
sounds like a very old install Krock |
| 14:30 |
CryptoNaut |
init: ah |
| 14:30 |
Krock |
nah, not that old. IO.SYS got created in 2011 |
| 14:30 |
CryptoNaut |
init: it's fun to follow the progress of thunder storms in the summer with thunder tracking 'radars' online, btw |
| 14:31 |
Zeno` |
I'm not sure I like JF |
| 14:31 |
Zeno` |
but he does sing some ok songs |
| 14:31 |
init |
CryptoNaut: I made a few programs and scripts that basically made it easy, I can't get to use them |
| 14:31 |
Zeno` |
Who'll stop the rain is oll |
| 14:31 |
Zeno` |
s/oll/ok |
| 14:31 |
CryptoNaut |
init: make what? |
| 14:32 |
init |
tracking weather radars |
| 14:32 |
CryptoNaut |
O.O |
| 14:32 |
init |
wut |
| 14:32 |
* Zeno` |
square dances |
| 14:32 |
CryptoNaut |
anyway, I'm fortunate to have a few of those thunder trackers nearby |
| 14:33 |
Zeno` |
the thunder from down under! (AC/DC)!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 14:33 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AC41dglnM |
| 14:33 |
Zeno` |
good call, CryptoNaut |
| 14:33 |
CryptoNaut |
apparently, not much lightning right now in europe http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php?lang=en |
| 14:34 |
Zeno` |
thunder |
| 14:34 |
Zeno` |
thunder |
| 14:34 |
Zeno` |
thunder |
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| 14:34 |
init |
I live in a really humid place, if that makes any difference :P |
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| 14:34 |
Zeno` |
yay! |
| 14:34 |
rubenwardy |
Ha |
| 14:34 |
init |
poor Zeno` |
| 14:34 |
Zeno` |
thunder |
| 14:35 |
Zeno` |
and I knew, I knew, I knew there was no help from you |
| 14:35 |
Zeno` |
you've been... thunderstruck! |
| 14:36 |
CryptoNaut |
Zeno`: is it mean to find people who are afraid of thunder amusing? |
| 14:36 |
Zeno` |
CryptoNaut, I don't think so. I love the song |
| 14:37 |
CryptoNaut |
I'm not referring to the song |
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| 14:37 |
Zeno` |
I have a UPS for the same reason |
| 14:37 |
init |
wut |
| 14:37 |
Zeno` |
I live in a rural area and lose power maybe 30 times a year lol |
| 14:37 |
rom1504 |
Hi, in http://dev.minetest.net/Network_Protocol , https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/clientserver.h is 404 |
| 14:37 |
rom1504 |
also, creating an account on the wiki is not possible |
| 14:38 |
Zeno` |
CryptoNaut, believe me that I am not making fun of people who are cautious with their expensive gear |
| 14:38 |
CryptoNaut |
no I mean afraid like cats and dogs are afraid of thunder |
| 14:38 |
init |
your gear is more expensive than expensive |
| 14:38 |
Zeno` |
even so, I am not making fun of that |
| 14:39 |
CryptoNaut |
except, they can predict being afraid before it happens, unlike our pets |
| 14:39 |
CryptoNaut |
I try not to make fun of them, of course, because that would be rude |
| 14:39 |
Zeno` |
I make fun of myself more often that anything |
| 14:39 |
CryptoNaut |
same |
| 14:40 |
CryptoNaut |
while I'm cautious abaout our appliances in the face of thunder, I'm unable to be emotionally scared of thunder, or lightning damage |
| 14:40 |
init |
is anyone here learning (or wants to learn) Haskell? |
| 14:40 |
CryptoNaut |
I have to work really hard to be afraid of it |
| 14:41 |
CryptoNaut |
hm, opaque water should reduce system load, shouldn't it |
| 14:41 |
Zeno` |
in Fact |
| 14:42 |
Zeno` |
I will now dedicate a song to myself |
| 14:42 |
CryptoNaut |
maybe less useful than viewing_range_nodes_max |
| 14:42 |
Zeno` |
Zeno`, this is dedicated to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A |
| 14:43 |
CryptoNaut |
debug.txt is not supposed to open in vlc =\ |
| 14:43 |
Zeno` |
and girl's... they wanna have fun |
| 14:43 |
* Zeno` |
grooves |
| 14:43 |
Zeno` |
Zeno`, this is YOUR song |
| 14:44 |
Zeno` |
Zeno`, thanks mate! |
| 14:44 |
init |
I think Zeno` didn't take his pills today |
| 14:44 |
Zeno` |
yay |
| 14:44 |
Zeno` |
oj, girls just wanna have fun |
| 14:44 |
Zeno` |
yep |
| 14:45 |
Zeno` |
yeah! |
| 14:45 |
Zeno` |
wanna have fun |
| 14:45 |
rubenwardy |
rom1504, it recently changed a lot |
| 14:45 |
rubenwardy |
You need to request on the forums for a wiki account |
| 14:45 |
rubenwardy |
!g wiki account request site:forum.minetest.net |
| 14:45 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10473 |
| 14:46 |
rubenwardy |
That's it |
| 14:46 |
Zeno` |
rubenwardy, what does that have to do with cyndi lauper? |
| 14:46 |
rubenwardy |
<rom1504> Hi, in http://dev.minetest.net/Network_Protocol , https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/clientserver.h is 404 |
| 14:46 |
* Zeno` |
checks source code for class Cyndi |
| 14:47 |
Zeno` |
wow |
| 14:47 |
Zeno` |
it's actually here |
| 14:49 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORzdIQIMAo |
| 14:50 |
Zeno` |
Don't let me go! |
| 14:50 |
CryptoNaut |
I'm going to gamble and assume both enable_fog = 0 and enable_clouds = 0 improve performance / reduce load |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
enable_clouds = 0 would |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
not so sure about enable_fog |
| 14:51 |
CryptoNaut |
hm, maybe it's part of the viewing_range_ decision making, whether there's fog or not, I'll leave it for now |
| 14:52 |
rubenwardy |
I don't know how it is done, if it limits render distance in the camera then maybe not |
| 14:52 |
CryptoNaut |
ps: if I disconnect I played too long and it overheated again =P I have temperature sensors showing now, tho |
| 14:52 |
Zeno` |
the fog setting makes very little difference |
| 14:52 |
CryptoNaut |
I reduced viewing_range_nodes_* below default tho http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest.conf |
| 14:53 |
CryptoNaut |
Zeno`: every saved cpu cycle is a saved cpu cycle =P |
| 14:53 |
Zeno` |
fog is not cpu though ;) |
| 14:53 |
CryptoNaut |
what then? |
| 14:53 |
Zeno` |
gpu |
| 14:53 |
Zeno` |
and gpu is basically unused so I doubt it would make much difference at all |
| 14:54 |
Zeno` |
It doesn't add anything to the mesh anyway |
| 14:54 |
Zeno` |
it's just a rendering thing |
| 14:55 |
CryptoNaut |
I'll leave fog and transparent water for now, but went with the opaque leaves, yay |
| 14:55 |
Zeno` |
clouds add to the mesh and also use perlin noise (CPU) |
| 14:55 |
CryptoNaut |
wouldn't using opengl rendering offload some stuff to the gpu by default anyway |
| 14:55 |
CryptoNaut |
hm, alright, thanks |
| 14:56 |
Zeno` |
CryptoNaut, less than you'd think :( |
| 14:56 |
CryptoNaut |
now if I could figure out what the number for time_speed does, if it's just a day/time_speed thingy, I could know what the default number actually means |
| 14:57 |
CryptoNaut |
time for using a stopwatch |
| 14:57 |
Zeno` |
fog is done ALL gpu-side though |
| 14:57 |
Zeno` |
clouds are not |
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CryptoNaut |
bbl |
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Calinou |
Zeno`, talking about fog, I wish we had “fancy fog†(radial) |
| 15:42 |
Calinou |
like Minecraft does |
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Calinou |
the current fog is just a plane |
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FreeFull |
Calinou: I thought minecraft did a plane |
| 15:56 |
FreeFull |
So just rotating the camera would change the way things were fogged over (things around the edges of the screen got less fog ) |
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Megaf |
Hi everyone |
| 16:00 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
| 16:00 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/9, 1/3 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
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LazyJ |
o/ Megaf |
| 16:01 |
Megaf |
I have been idle here for quite some time not :P |
| 16:02 |
LazyJ |
You lurker, you. |
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Mati1_ |
hi all |
| 16:03 |
Mati1_ |
how to make trolley tracks |
| 16:04 |
LazyJ |
Rails - default game. Carts - cart mod. Trains - in development mod by jordan4ibanez. |
| 16:05 |
LazyJ |
Rails are just that - rails only. |
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rubenwardy |
!up home.rubenwardy.com |
| 16:05 |
MinetestBot |
home.rubenwardy.com:30000 is up (38ms) |
| 16:05 |
LazyJ |
For something that moves on the rails use the Cart mod. |
| 16:05 |
Mati1_ |
Is there a website with the help of |
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rubenwardy |
Capture the flag multiplayer testing |
| 16:05 |
rubenwardy |
Try and crash it! |
| 16:05 |
LazyJ |
Otherwise build a static trolley out of blocks. |
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Mati1_ |
pleace website |
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Mati1_ |
link for |
| 16:06 |
LazyJ |
forum.minetest.net -> Mods forums. |
| 16:07 |
LazyJ |
Probably faster to use Google: forum.minetest.net carts |
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rubenwardy |
1sec, making public |
| 16:08 |
Mati1_ |
thx |
| 16:08 |
LazyJ |
yw ;) |
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rubenwardy |
!server capture |
| 16:09 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Capture the Flag test | home.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 1755ms |
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rubenwardy |
!server capture |
| 16:09 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Capture the Flag test | home.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 1755ms |
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Amaz |
Has it crashed? |
| 16:11 |
CryptoNaut |
now, I wonder if disabling smooth lighting reduces load |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
No, but the client is hanging and won't close |
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rubenwardy |
Will start as console server |
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Amaz |
Okay. |
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rubenwardy |
Will start as console server |
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rubenwardy |
!server capture |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Capture the Flag test | home.rubenwardy.com:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 36ms |
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rubenwardy |
Hmmm, server won't start |
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Amaz |
I'm in it, but nothing is loading... |
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rubenwardy |
Weird |
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rubenwardy |
Infinite loop? |
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hoodedice |
for(;;)? |
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hoodedice |
while (true)? |
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rubenwardy |
^C16:16:38: INFO: sigint_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down. |
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rubenwardy |
16:16:38: ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500) |
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rubenwardy |
restarting, ports are locked up |
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rubenwardy |
!up home.rubenwardy.com |
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MinetestBot |
home.rubenwardy.com:30000 is up (39ms) |
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rubenwardy |
works now for me |
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rubenwardy |
!server capture |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Capture the Flag test | 92.2.106.181:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 35ms |
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rubenwardy |
That's not correct |
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rubenwardy |
Ah, last one hasn't timed out in the serverlist yet |
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rubenwardy |
Broken again. Well, that's probably a bug |
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Amaz |
Wasn't to hard to do as you asked :) |
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Amaz |
(Try and crash it!) |
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rubenwardy |
Server list is messed up |
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rubenwardy |
Server says ^C16:23:04: INFO: sigint_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down. |
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rubenwardy |
16:23:05: ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500) |
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rubenwardy |
and then never closes |
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rubenwardy |
Hosting plain world to see if same problem |
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rubenwardy |
!up home.rubenwardy.com |
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MinetestBot |
home.rubenwardy.com:30000 is up (1841ms) |
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rubenwardy |
It's windy and rainy thus slow internet |
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rubenwardy |
don't know why |
| 16:28 |
hoodedice |
because the electrons carrying your data are feeling cold |
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hoodedice |
r/shittyaskscience |
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rubenwardy |
hoodedice, it would be good to have materials (leaflets, posters) for con style meet ups. (con as in ComiCon). |
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rubenwardy |
You're the PR guy |
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rubenwardy |
:) |
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hoodedice |
I'm also AWOL |
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hoodedice |
:) |
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rubenwardy |
Okay. I may get around to it, but probably not that soon |
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hoodedice |
to have con-style meetups, you need to have a large enough following first |
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rubenwardy |
Actually, I did just update the server |
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rubenwardy |
There have been two or three so far |
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hoodedice |
those are Minecraft cons |
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hoodedice |
not minetest cons |
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rubenwardy |
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coderdojo-org/ndc-e26bOLw |
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rubenwardy |
Meh, not sure if that counts, but is similar. |
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hoodedice |
ruben, you're a celebrity now! |
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rubenwardy |
!up home.rubenwardy.com |
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MinetestBot |
home.rubenwardy.com:30000 is up (42ms) |
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rubenwardy |
Please can we try again, but now that I've updated the server? I updated before trying plain mt |
| 16:34 |
Amaz |
Seems to be the same as before... |
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Amaz |
As in not loading. |
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rubenwardy |
Yeah, same 500 error |
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hoodedice |
rubenwardy: can you look into converting this to markdown? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1306#issuecomment-75379414 |
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rubenwardy |
That confirms it |
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rubenwardy |
Shouldn't be too hard, hoodedice. |
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hoodedice |
so you'll do it? |
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rubenwardy |
sure, 1sec |
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hoodedice |
kthnxm8 |
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hoodedice |
my work here is done |
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hoodedice |
now to fly away for another 6 months |
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ipv6b |
Is there a way to make the chat text larger? |
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CryptoNaut |
time to enable opaque waterand to disable view_bobbing |
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rubenwardy |
Is there any way to find out where a Lua script is hanging? |
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rom1504 |
any easy way to make bots for minetest ? |
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rubenwardy |
!g minetest php bot |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: https://forum.minetest.net/index.php |
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rubenwardy |
:( |
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rubenwardy |
!g minetest php bot github |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc |
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rubenwardy |
ffs |
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rubenwardy |
https://github.com/rarkenin/minetest-bot-php |
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rubenwardy |
Not sure how far they got |
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rom1504 |
seems it's just for chat though |
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CryptoNaut |
ok, so bobbing is another setting from use action swing |
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Amaz |
"Limitations: It does not work yet!" |
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CryptoNaut |
I'm not sure if it's the use action, or the actual block placement that cranks up the cpu now =\ |
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rubenwardy |
Amaz: it was to do with the team allocation |
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rubenwardy |
Disabling team allocation makes it work |
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Amaz |
What does it do? |
| 17:45 |
Amaz |
And how do you disable that? |
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rubenwardy |
I disabled it in minetest.conf, and it automagically adds you to a team when you join |
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Amaz |
Okay. |
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rubenwardy |
I think it adds you to a team that doesn't exist |
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rubenwardy |
Ah, it is because the allocation method requires two teams, and only one team existed |
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rubenwardy |
I have no idea |
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rubenwardy |
Disabling autoalloc stops it from doing the silly things, but I can't see why |
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rubenwardy |
Here is the backtrace of where it is: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/b9bbb98d89f345a7d083 |
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rubenwardy |
Building minetest server so I can get a backtrace of where the server is |
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rubenwardy |
The server just sleeps in dedicated server loop using usleep |
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rubenwardy |
So weird |
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SilvaMerner |
Hi |
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shadowzone |
hi SilvaMerner |
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SilvaMerner |
SHADOW |
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shadowzone |
How are you? |
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SilvaMerner |
Shadow I won't be on Minetest for a while |
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SilvaMerner |
Btw I'm good thx |
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shadowzone |
Oh |
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SilvaMerner |
Been a bit ill and lost my Samsung phone |
| 18:37 |
SilvaMerner |
Got a new phone but I'll be back on Minetest soon |
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Calinou |
https://lut.im/wqAeIehL/DRii80u5 |
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Calinou |
lol |
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SilvaMerner |
Hi calinou |
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shadowzone |
Calinou, lol |
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SilvaMerner |
#minetestcreeper |
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SilvaMerner |
Creepy if we could get creepers in Minetest |
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SilvaMerner |
Shadow can u tell the guys on Minetest it will probs be a couple of days or so before I come on again |
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ipv6b |
Not the first time somebody asks me how to split an item in Multicraft II |
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STHGOM |
how do you add an item to a players inventory? |
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STHGOM |
is it: minetest.get_inventory() :add_item("default:cobble")? |
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Krock |
player:get_inventory() |
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Krock |
minetest.get_player_by_name("foobar") |
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rubenwardy |
I don't understand :( |
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STHGOM |
is foobar the name of the player? |
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STHGOM |
it says "attempt to index global 'player'" |
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Krock |
STHGOM, you need to define "player" is it's not given. |
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Krock |
*if it's |
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rubenwardy |
Amaz, adding a delay before auto allocating fixes it, it is something to do with the player being emerged. |
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rubenwardy |
* not being |
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rubenwardy |
ie, isn't in the world yet |
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STHGOM |
how to define player? |
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Krock |
how about: local player = minetest.get_player_by_name("foobar") |
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STHGOM |
ok |
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STHGOM |
now it says "attempt to index local 'player'" |
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Krock |
at least an attempt |
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STHGOM |
i think i might've put it in a bad spot |
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STHGOM |
maybe not :P |
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EvergreenTree |
Hello everyone |
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STHGOM |
hi |
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STHGOM |
local player = minetest.get_player_by_name("singleplayer") |
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STHGOM |
player:get_inventory():add_item("default:cobble") |
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EvergreenTree |
What's with the random pasting of code? :P |
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STHGOM |
it now working :P |
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STHGOM |
not* |
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EvergreenTree |
What is the error message? |
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STHGOM |
lua:2: attempt to index global 'player' (a nil value) |
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STHGOM |
the first line is acually just player = minetest.get_player_by_name("singleplayer") |
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ipv6b |
No fear. The players are aware of all the *crafts problems. They avoid apps which give them problems. |
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EvergreenTree |
STHGOM: not sure, and don't really have time right now |
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STHGOM |
ok |
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STHGOM |
what program would you suggest for modding? |
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est31 |
STHGOM, modding minetest? |
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STHGOM |
yes |
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est31 |
I mainly use a texteditor, rubenwardies doc, and minetest |
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est31 |
the texteditor should support syntax highlighting |
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EvergreenTree |
Any text editor will do as long as it supports syntax highlighting and lua |
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EvergreenTree |
I can list a few: geany, vim(for wizards), gedit, scite, notepad++(windows) |
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STHGOM |
what one do you use? |
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* est31 |
uses kate |
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EvergreenTree |
vim |
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EvergreenTree |
kate is good too |
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est31 |
There is a video which gives an oversight over editors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvjcuiQE-cQ |
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EvergreenTree |
I have vim tricked out though, and I wouldn't really suggest it to you |
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EvergreenTree |
Here is a screenshot of it: https://lut.im/fXVgla0M/dBhvUq7M |
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est31 |
this isnt normal vanilla vim |
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EvergreenTree |
vim DOES NOT look like that out of the box however. |
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est31 |
yea |
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EvergreenTree |
I have vim-airline, gruvbox theme, nerdtree, ctrlp and many other plugins |
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EvergreenTree |
I also have a ~450 line vimrc |
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est31 |
nerdtree lol |
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EvergreenTree |
:P |
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EvergreenTree |
I would suggest geany, gedit, or kate if you are on linux though |
| 19:52 |
EvergreenTree |
all of them have pretty similar features |
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est31 |
sometimes I use vim, but I have tab problems with it: when I type tabs, I get spaces |
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EvergreenTree |
est31: that's probably because expandtab is et |
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EvergreenTree |
*set |
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STHGOM |
can yuo easily get kate on windowsa? |
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est31 |
I think that would require installing KDE on windows |
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EvergreenTree |
no, not really |
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est31 |
which isnt probably what you want |
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EvergreenTree |
For windows, I think you might want to use notepad++. (not sure about it though, since I don't use windows) |
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EvergreenTree |
http://www.notepad-plus-plus.org/ |
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EvergreenTree |
Also, I repeat: DO NOT USE NOTEPAD |
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EvergreenTree |
:P |
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STHGOM |
i have been using wordpad |
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haiku |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
haiku: No results |
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haiku |
Megaf, what's happened with the server? |
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STHGOM |
thanks, notepad++ looks good |
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haiku |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
haiku: No results |
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iio7 |
Hi, I have set up a minetest server using 0.4.12 with v7 engine and Ethereal mod + the mobs mod for that. I would like for farm animals to spawn much more frequently, is it possible to change this without having to hack the mods themselves? |
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est31 |
hacking the mods is easiest, if they have no option |
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iio7 |
est31, ok, thanks |
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ChrisWere |
Hi, is there a way I can set up a casual game with another player through the game's gui |
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ChrisWere |
The documentation on how to do it is very bad |
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ChrisWere |
I think I read one article from minetest.com and another frome minetest.net and the two sets of instructions are conflicting |
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ChrisWere |
Is there anybody here who can help? I'm completely lost |
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Nihao |
ChrisWere: I do not know how to do that, but suppose it works as follows: |
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ChrisWere |
Pardon? |
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Nihao |
On one computer, you start the game from the server tab. |
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Nihao |
From the other computer, you connect to the first computers IP on port 30000. |
| 21:34 |
Nihao |
Supposing there is no firewall blocking, thats all. |
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ChrisWere |
That hasn't worked |
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ChrisWere |
tbh I think following the instructions on Minetest.com has wrecked my install |
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Nihao |
Hm, sorry for you. I do not even know the instructions, sorry, I can not help you then. |
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ChrisWere |
Thanks for trying. I just wish the instructions on the wiki were a bit easyier to follow |
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Nihao |
For testing, I can launch a server and you connect? |
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ChrisWere |
I can connect to public servers |
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ChrisWere |
at the moment I need to fix my installion because following the instructions on the website has broken it |
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ChrisWere |
How do I get my game to appear on the public server list? Does it appear there my default? |
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ChrisWere |
There's no way to search for a game or organise the public server list. This is all very frustrating. Please help |
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Nihao |
ChanServ: You wanted a private game. Just use the IP of the PC where you run the server on. |
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ChrisWere |
That doesn't work either |
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Nihao |
Does ping answer? |
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ChrisWere |
as in ping my own IP address. That doesn't appear to answer |
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ChrisWere |
ohh hang on, I've worked it out |
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ChrisWere |
Weird thing happened, I went to http://www.myipaddress.com/show-my-ip-address/ to display my IP and it gave me an incorrect IP address. When I used the one from ifconfig it worked. |
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Nihao |
Router? |
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ChrisWere |
Something like that. Anyways, thank you very very much for sticking with me. Your support has been very valuable. |
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ChrisWere |
I know it's frustrating to have to deal with newbies like myself. |
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Nihao |
ChrisWere: Welcome. |
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Pulec |
I hate debian |
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Pulec |
in wheezy, it has only minetest server 0.3.x |
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Pulec |
too bad there is no option for archlinux on my provider |
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est31 |
Pulec, if you have root access, you can install every distro you want |
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est31 |
also, you can download minetest yourself, and compile it |
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Nitori |
I love debian |
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Nitori |
I'm using sid |
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Nitori |
but might not be recommended for a server |
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Nihao |
Pulec: You can try this for MT 0.4.11: http://pastebin.com/DPEs8rki |
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Nihao |
It works well on my PCs. |
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Pulec |
sid? |
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Pulec |
well I thought about building it from source |
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Nihao |
Pulec: That is what it does....just rad first. |
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Nihao |
read* |
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Pulec |
well by riding the commands in the script it does pretty much the same stuff as http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest |
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Nihao |
OK, so you know how to resolve the problem before even compaining :) |
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Pulec |
I will probably switch to centos anyway |
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Pulec |
anybody running server with only 256MB ram? |
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est31 |
Hello somebody has asked ingame whether the Craig server is discontinued. Does anybody know sth? |
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Pulec |
http://dfkl.eu/static/map.png |
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Pulec |
nice python script |
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est31 |
Pulec, try minetestmapper-cpp its faster than python |
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est31 |
and, if you want sloppy maps, try my project: https://github.com/est31/leaftest |
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est31 |
in live: http://alket.mooo.com/map |
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Pulec |
i was just trying out https://gist.github.com/MarkTraceur/998260 script |
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Pulec |
note that it didnt worked :D |
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VanessaE |
I still need to set that up on mine |
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Pulec |
yeah live maps are bit more advanced |
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Pulec |
as I said I have only 256MB ram, so I dont except anything longterm |
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Pulec |
epecially when we have community build minecraft server with 16gb of ram |
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VanessaE |
time to buy more :) |
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est31 |
no, mine is not live |
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Pulec |
and another 16gb of ram, but there were some problems with the machine |
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est31 |
with "live" I meant that you can try it out there |
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est31 |
MT-sattelite is live map |
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est31 |
but as it seems it only supports redis |