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AndroidKris |
Hola amigos! |
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Hijiri |
hola |
| 01:19 |
AndroidKris |
Hijiri: In XChat, I've been playing around with server commands and stuff...like /whois, and I just did yours...Why does it look like a mac address under your user info? |
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AndroidKris |
Like, mine gives AndroidKris@[ip address]. |
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Hijiri |
it is probably IPv6 address |
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est31 |
I dont see any mac address or ipv6 address for AndroidKris. |
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AndroidKris |
Definitely not ipv6 |
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est31 |
what AndroidKris has is an ipv4 address |
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Hijiri |
it is ipv6 on me, I mean |
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Hijiri |
not a MAC address |
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est31 |
yes Hijiri thats ipv6 |
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est31 |
congrats, you are one of the few :) |
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Hijiri |
I'm at school |
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est31 |
which country |
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Hijiri |
murrica |
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est31 |
ok |
| 01:22 |
est31 |
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption |
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est31 |
thats how much ipv6 is in the world :) |
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AndroidKris |
I guess I haven't studied ipv6 enough.lol. Looks similar to a mac address to me. |
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Hijiri |
data seems to be not very complete |
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AndroidKris |
Hijiri, you might be here, but you are connected through london, did you know that? |
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Hijiri |
feels good to be privileged though |
| 01:23 |
Hijiri |
no |
| 01:23 |
Hijiri |
I didn't check |
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AndroidKris |
Through holmes.freenode.net.lol |
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est31 |
I think it doesnt work like download mirrors |
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est31 |
I mean, irc isnt that heavy load |
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Hijiri |
maybe I should set a close server to connect to instead of generic network redirection address |
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est31 |
ah no |
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est31 |
if that server goes down, you get disconnected |
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Hijiri |
oh, right |
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AndroidKris |
Nah, in case the server you choe.....^^^^ |
| 01:25 |
AndroidKris |
that |
| 01:25 |
AndroidKris |
I was typing the same thing.lol |
| 01:26 |
est31 |
on inchranet for example, VanessaE got a new server ,and then many people complained because the've hardcoded her server instead of a generic dns entry |
| 01:26 |
est31 |
they* |
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AndroidKris |
Inchranet? |
| 01:28 |
est31 |
like freenode |
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est31 |
inchra.net |
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AndroidKris |
I knew it sounded familiar. |
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est31 |
irc.inchra.net |
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AndroidKris |
I see it in xchat's network list now and again. |
| 01:29 |
est31 |
is it in there? |
| 01:29 |
est31 |
Its a quite small network |
| 01:29 |
est31 |
mostly about minetest |
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AndroidKris |
Not any more...It was the other day. I remember because there were a few people here talking about it, so I looked it up. |
| 01:32 |
AndroidKris |
lol, I just tried to /connect irc.inchra.net. Got "permission denied - You're not an IRC operator" |
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AndroidKris |
I'll bet the only reason Hijiri is connected through London is because it supports ipv6 |
| 01:34 |
AndroidKris |
Hahaha, I'm connected through Helsinki. |
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Hijiri |
I'd expect every server to support ipv6 |
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Hijiri |
unless that is something particularly expensive |
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AndroidKris |
https://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml |
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AndroidKris |
Scroll down for server list and ipv4/ipv6 support. |
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AndroidKris |
est31, is connected through Bulgaria.lol |
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AndroidKris |
The way freenode connects people makes it difficult to track someone back to there _actual_ connection point. |
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est31 |
AndroidKris, I guess there is special ipv6 domain name |
| 01:38 |
AndroidKris |
Anyone who connects through chat.freenode.net, gets redirected through one of the servers on that list it seems. |
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est31 |
yea |
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est31 |
found an issue though |
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est31 |
will update the patch |
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est31 |
minor issue |
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AndroidKris |
What issue would that be? |
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est31 |
ah |
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est31 |
wrong channel |
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est31 |
belongs into #godotengine |
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AndroidKris |
lol, gotcha |
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kaeza2 |
Greetings |
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AndroidKris |
dang, sorry for spamming the channel with my crappy internet disconnections.lol |
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AndroidKris |
However, this does mean that I can watch Daredevil a whole hour earlier than normal..yay. |
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AndroidKris |
L8r |
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man just so true: http://bash.org/?14207 |
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CWz |
hello Zeno` |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Batman Day! :-D |
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Calinou |
today is an holiday here |
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Calinou |
happy May |
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JamesTait |
Calinou, I'm not sure where "here" is for you, but here in the UK our holiday is on Monday. Several of my colleagues are on holiday today, though. |
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Calinou |
France |
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Calinou |
1er mai = fête du travail |
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JamesTait |
Calinou, ah, "Labor Day" I think they call it in the US. May Day is the first Monday in May here. |
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Consortium |
Sup everyone! |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Update colors.txt 6e30d47 http://git.io/vJZOB (2015-05-01T11:44:54+02:00) |
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CWz |
I just saw a video of someone who made/has a hacked client he was able to bypass the "you`re too fast" anticheat thing. how is that possible |
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CWz |
i think anticheat needs improvement |
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est31 |
where? |
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est31 |
interesting |
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Calinou |
CWz, faking client time or such? |
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sfan5 |
CWz: are you exactly sure just test has cheat protection enabled? |
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Calinou |
yeah, or it's likely off on that server |
| 10:33 |
sfan5 |
the client could ignore the position resets sent by the server |
| 10:34 |
sfan5 |
but the server would still have the old pos and won't send MapBlocks near the "cheated" position |
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sfan5 |
the position the server has and the position the client has would desync more and more for every pos-reset the client ignores |
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sfan5 |
MapBlocks wouldn't load |
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sfan5 |
you couldn't interact with any nodes |
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sfan5 |
tl;dr you can't ignore the position resets sent by the server or you won't be able to do anything |
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sfan5 |
the world wouldn't even load |
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Calinou |
clients that ignore position changes of server should be kicked, like in Minecraft |
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sfan5 |
the server can't detect that |
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sfan5 |
iirc the client sends the movement not the new pos |
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OldCoder |
No? |
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sfan5 |
if the server only gets the movement the client does it can't detect whether the client ignored a pos. reset |
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OldCoder |
sfan5, ty |
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Calinou |
http://truecraft.io/ |
| 12:33 |
Calinou |
whoa |
| 12:35 |
Calinou |
a reimplementation of Minecraft Beta 1.7.3 |
| 12:35 |
Calinou |
it's C# though |
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CWz |
wow an open-source minecraft finally |
| 12:38 |
CWz |
oh wait it's non-linux nvm |
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Calinou |
it can run through Mono according to the README |
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Calinou |
here it doesn't build though, reported an issue |
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H-H-H |
i was just going to say it would run under mono or even maybe wine |
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CWz |
too bad most of the work is to the server component and not to the client |
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CWz |
there are several opensource minecraft servers software |
| 12:45 |
Calinou |
yeah, like MCServer |
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marktraceur |
Geez, not gonna have much chance running *that* on a GNU/Linux system. |
| 12:48 |
Calinou |
many Mono software does run |
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Calinou |
C#'s not going to die anytime soon, like it or not |
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H-H-H |
i run mono apps all the time :) |
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CWz |
C# can be "converted" to c++ easily, no? |
| 12:50 |
H-H-H |
for example this runs very well http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Main_Page |
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rom1504 |
CWz: not likely |
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Consortium |
Hi |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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Sokomine |
hi you :-) |
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Sokomine |
would you like to test something? |
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VanessaE |
hey ruben |
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VanessaE |
(and all :) ) |
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Sokomine |
hi vanessa :-) |
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* Sokomine |
hopefully throws a build chest at rubenwardy |
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xenkey |
http://truecraft.io/ |
| 16:18 |
xenkey |
This is cool |
| 16:18 |
xenkey |
And I know the author :) |
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Sokomine |
what are village gift shops? |
| 16:19 |
Calinou |
xenkey, I know the author too… |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
better not comment on him |
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sfan5 |
why not |
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* VanessaE |
throws a homedecor wardrobe at Sokomine :) |
| 16:22 |
Sokomine |
well, many players did build good things on mc servers. it's good to hear that they now have an alternative to the normal server |
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* Sokomine |
grabs the wardrobe and puts it in a house :-) |
| 16:23 |
Calinou |
there are lots of server alternatives, but no client ones |
| 16:23 |
Sokomine |
hmm. you may even like my mod, vanessa. it is kind of a..more convenient...version of saving buildings and placing them rotated correctly |
| 16:24 |
Sokomine |
calinou: ah. i'd love to be able to connect to an mc server with mt :-) but i'm afraid that won't be possible |
| 16:24 |
Calinou |
yeah, will never be |
| 16:24 |
Calinou |
we shouldn't really bother anyway, we should just focus on Minetest |
| 16:25 |
Calinou |
it's not like we need interoperability; it's just a game, not an image editor or a word processor |
| 16:26 |
Sokomine |
i'd be glad about feedback regarding https://github.com/Sokomine/handle_schematics trouble is: you currently have to maintain your own list_of_schematics.txt file, containing the full paths to all schematics you'd like to use.... |
| 16:27 |
Sokomine |
Calinou: well, it would be nice to visit people on mc servers sometimes. some have created impressive buildings (judging from screenshots). but that client just doesn't run convincingly on my machine |
| 16:27 |
Sokomine |
anyway...it's unrealistic |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
joining online mode servers would be illegal, so you could join only offline mode |
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* Sokomine |
puts a build chest in front of vanessa |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
and even then, you better have good lawyers at hand |
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Sokomine |
sounds stressful, calinou. so i'd better ask those people for screenshots |
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Sokomine |
anyway...i'd really love to get some feedback on the build chest (/giveme handle_schematics:build) in the mod above |
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* VanessaE |
picks up the build chest and stores it away |
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* Sokomine |
watches as the build chest spawns houses in vanessae's wardrobe |
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VanessaE |
haha |
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sofar |
is there a method to detect a player "jump" or better "fall" in lua? |
| 18:12 |
sofar |
event/method |
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Sokomine |
if the player falls for a loooooonnnnnnnng time...then perhaps. else i don't think so. there are methods to reduce fall damage and/or increase jump height |
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marktraceur |
minetest.net down? |
| 18:32 |
marktraceur |
Reports in lpgc channel. |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
yeah, seems down here too |
| 18:33 |
CWz |
seems someone forgot to pay the bills |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
yep, down |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
hey mark |
| 18:37 |
Krock |
at least the forums aren't down |
| 18:39 |
* Sokomine |
is still looking for feedback and testers |
| 18:39 |
Sokomine |
guess i'll have to announce the mod in the forum.... |
| 18:39 |
Amaz |
Which mod Sokomine? |
| 18:40 |
Sokomine |
amaz: handle_schematics. it allows you to easily place schematics without having to worry about rotation. you can also replace materials easily |
| 18:40 |
Amaz |
Is it on github? |
| 18:41 |
Sokomine |
yes. https://github.com/Sokomine/handle_schematics install mg_villages alongside if you want some schematics beeing provided... |
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Amaz |
Does it support both .we and .mts schems? |
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rubenwardy |
http://a.pomf.se/laswnl.png :) |
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Sokomine |
Amaz: yes, it does |
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Amaz |
Great! |
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luizrpgluiz |
minetest.net off :( |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
we already know, luizrpgluiz |
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CWz |
at least will still have the forum |
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luizrpgluiz |
but because he was down? |
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VanessaE |
forums are on a different machine than the minetest.net main site. |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
(and they still work) |
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luizrpgluiz |
I hope they can fix the main site :) |
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luizrpgluiz |
how soon will leave the new version of minetest? 0.5? |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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luizrpgluiz |
? |
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kaeza_ |
Greetings |
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Sokomine |
hi kaeza |
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zetok |
hello :3 |
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zetok |
I was pointed to ask here.. |
| 20:06 |
zetok |
anyone on Linux here interested in playing minetest over toxvpn ? |
| 20:07 |
xenkey |
zetok: my state only satisfies one of those conditions |
| 20:08 |
zetok |
oh well |
| 20:09 |
zetok |
https://gist.github.com/zetok/de76f05a020979b4ab9a ↠instructions for anyone interested |
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xenkey |
you realize they're internal ranges |
| 20:10 |
xenkey |
right? |
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xenkey |
I doubt someone with that many servers doesn't know about IP ranges |
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Calinou |
this is a VPN |
| 20:11 |
zetok |
yes, it's a toxvpn :3 |
| 20:11 |
xenkey |
Am I a retard |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
is that ToxVPN thing a text, or is it something serious? |
| 20:11 |
xenkey |
sounds like something serious |
| 20:12 |
zetok |
Calinou: hm? it's a ~functioning hamachi replacement |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
does it remove need for port forwarding? |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
does it lag a lot? |
| 20:12 |
zetok |
Calinou: doesn't work yet on windows, but that's a matter of time, I think |
| 20:13 |
zetok |
well, it's ~slow over tcp, but over udp it increases ping up to ~10ms |
| 20:13 |
zetok |
and yep, there is no need for port forwarding |
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xenkey |
~slow |
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xenkey |
lol |
| 20:13 |
zetok |
100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 99078ms |
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zetok |
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 180.857/732.665/3286.497/884.150 ms, pipe 4 |
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zetok |
over tcp |
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Calinou |
that's horrible :P |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
will that ever be improved? |
| 20:14 |
zetok |
well |
| 20:15 |
zetok |
irungentoo was doing something around tcp, so hopefully yes |
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xenkey |
irungentootoo |
| 20:15 |
zetok |
but for real thing udp should be used, which almost doesn't increase ping |
| 20:15 |
xenkey |
almost [definite term] |
| 20:15 |
xenkey |
-.- |
| 20:16 |
xenkey |
my anger is almost infinite at you gradating an absolute term |
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sfan5 |
zetok: how do i know the binary doesn't delete / |
| 20:31 |
zetok |
you're free to compile your own, code for it is under GPLv3 :3 |
| 20:32 |
sfan5 |
where's the code? |
| 20:32 |
zetok |
https://github.com/cleverca22/toxvpn |
| 20:32 |
zetok |
you'll also need deps: toxcore, libsodium, libjsoncpp, .. I think that's all? |
| 20:33 |
zetok |
(I've compiled it statically in binary, so..) |
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sfan5 |
/tmp/toxvpn/main.cpp:232:25: error: no member named 'cout' in namespace 'std' |
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zetok |
clever: <sfan5> /tmp/toxvpn/main.cpp:232:25: error: no member named 'cout' in namespace 'std' |
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sfan5 |
adding an include for <iostream> fixed it |
| 20:35 |
clever |
ah, i'll add that on my end |
| 20:35 |
clever |
one of the other headers i pulled in must include that on my system |
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sfan5 |
zetok: i guess i need to give this to you my id is b557f74b536aecd064ead7a931207b97f1f229b77518dbc1fe4c1e65cced467b51daaf22e689 and IP is 192.168.6.115 |
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zetok |
sfan5: sent FR |
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sfan5 |
zetok: it accepted but Unknown error -1-1 |
| 20:39 |
zetok |
oh, right |
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sfan5 |
should i close utox? |
| 20:39 |
zetok |
nah |
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zetok |
# modprobe tun |
| 20:39 |
zetok |
also, run ./vpn as root |
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sfan5 |
do i need to run whitelist again? |
| 20:40 |
clever |
nope |
| 20:40 |
clever |
it saves to the state file |
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xenkey |
well what a great way to get hacked |
| 20:41 |
xenkey |
also why not use 10. ip ranges |
| 20:41 |
xenkey |
and i dont think it would play well with my two routers |
| 20:41 |
clever |
you can use any of the private ranges, and i think you can even mix them |
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sfan5 |
fix your routers then |
| 20:41 |
xenkey |
no they're fine |
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sfan5 |
clever: did you consider using msgpack instead of json? |
| 20:42 |
clever |
sfan5: its currently only using the json to read the ip out of the tox status msg |
| 20:42 |
clever |
that can easily just be a fixed string |
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clever |
though i plan to do more complex stuff with json soon, and i havent used msgpack yet |
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kaeza_ |
Meow? |
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VanessaE |
meow. |
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kaeza_ |
Quite quiet lately |
| 23:27 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 23:29 |
kaeza_ |
Might be that famed "sleep" thing |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
nah, sleep is as usual, overrated. |
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Jordach |
it's just quiet |
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Jordach |
except my prototype X model |
