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swift110-phone |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy International Dot Day! 😃 |
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ancer |
hi, everyone |
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ancer |
i'm writing mod that uses entity with physical=true |
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ancer |
how to determine a moment when entity has collided with another entity or node? |
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ancer |
I use setvelocity method and want to know when entity has stopped due to collision |
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Megaf |
Hi |
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Megaf |
Hi swift110-phone JamesTait |
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Megaf |
nrzkt: Hi there, isnt the OS X kernel based on FreeBSD too? |
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Megaf |
cheapie: I just use Irrlicht from their SVN and LuaJIT from their Git, no problems at all |
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Megaf |
cheapie: also, no need to compile Irrlicht for server builds |
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nrzkt |
Megaf: absolutely NO |
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Megaf |
Who wrote meselamps and mesegates mod? |
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nrzkt |
OS X uses Mach micro kernel + Darwin |
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Megaf |
Yes, and where the Darwin kernel comes from? |
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Megaf |
I think it has patches from BSD |
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* Megaf |
researches |
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Megaf |
nrzkt: well, Darwin comes from NextSTEP and NextSTEP from BSD |
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Megaf |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_timeline.en.svg |
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Megaf |
Darwin is built around XNU, a hybrid kernel that combines the Mach 3 microkernel, various elements of BSD |
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Megaf |
Darwin is a Frankstein |
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nrzkt |
yes |
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nrzkt |
it's exact, but Darwin != BSD atm |
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Megaf |
I'm still not sure what is my favorite kernel |
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Megaf |
even the Windows NT Kernel itself is a good kernel |
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Megaf |
I think Linux is just the easiest to change and recompile |
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Megaf |
you dont see FreeBSD people recompiling the FreeBSD kernel |
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Megaf |
do you? |
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nrzkt |
yes, for performance and minimizing the functions to the minimal needed |
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nrzkt |
example: removing drivers, removing non needed functions etc + compiler options to generate a full optimized code |
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exio4 |
Megaf: why do you like suffering so much? |
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Megaf |
exio4: Whay you ask that? |
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exio4 |
you're using gnome and wayland! |
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exio4: Everything works fine, but minetest |
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exio4 |
are you also using systemd? :p |
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exio4 |
(and fedora?) |
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Megaf |
exio4: and the real reason Im doing that is because Mutter crashes when starting with X and nouveau |
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Megaf |
but it works with Wayland, go figure |
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exio4 |
oh, I changed to an AMD GPU a year ago |
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Megaf |
Right now I'm on XFCE on X :D |
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exio4 |
I had a nvidia gpu and gave up on trying to make it run my games |
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Megaf |
exio4: Yep, I'm typing from my 2010 Macbook Pro, my new laptop is a Toshiba Satellite with AMD GPU, much happines :) |
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exio4 |
oh, that explains the issues |
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Megaf |
with nvidia I can't even use the proprietary driver on 64 bit and (u)EFI |
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Megaf |
I have to use MBR emulation |
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Megaf |
so, I'm stuck with crashy nouveau |
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Megaf |
If I could change my GPU I would |
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exio4 |
yeah, this is a desktop |
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exio4 |
I really hate laptops unless it works extremely well, and hardware never works |
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exio4 |
not even under windows, if you wonder |
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Megaf |
exio4: well, on my macbook pro everything works perfect, just a few crashes with nouveau... |
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Megaf |
and on my toshiba everything but the bluetooth card work well |
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Megaf |
using Debian Jessie |
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Megaf |
GNOME on my macbook pro worked, until I upgrade from Jessie to Stretch |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/11, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms |
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Megaf |
!seen Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: megaf was last seen at 2015-09-15 14:16:22 UTC on #minetest |
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Megaf |
!seen Nekofire |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen nekofire around. |
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waressearcher2 |
http://i.imgur.com/HF3nwWY.png how was that made ? block by block or some 3d model converted in to voxel model ? |
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T4im |
I think you will have to ask the author, both is thinkable |
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Calinou |
I hardly think it's block by block :P |
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Calinou |
mauvebic did it, he left a while ago |
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waressearcher2 |
so its possible to export any 3d model in the world ? is it easy to do ? |
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est31 |
is it possible? -> yes |
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T4im |
I bet there were crazier things build by hand, as well :P |
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est31 |
is it easy? -> depends on the definition |
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est31 |
but generally it is |
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Out`Of`Control |
hey Krock, there is an update ? |
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Krock |
Out`Of`Control, I got quite angry when I tried to fix this earlier.. I don't know what to do to solve that stuff |
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Out`Of`Control |
Krock: i am happy that it does not crash server anymore lol |
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Krock |
The moment when there's the question on the sheet: "Does HTTP garantuee that you're browsing safely?" with the answers "Yes", "No" but no "In most cases, yes."? |
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Krock |
Teachers, please. |
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Krock |
*HTTPS |
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waressearcher2 |
what is "safely" ? privately ? |
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Calinou |
In most cases, maybe that perhaps it can be safe. |
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est31 |
yea thats the next question |
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est31 |
a flash virus can be delivered via HTTPS as well as HTTP |
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waressearcher2 |
or "safely" means you will not catch any trojans,backdoors ? |
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est31 |
well https is more than just privacy |
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Krock |
Yeah, the question was somewhat imprecise. |
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waressearcher2 |
or can HTTP be used while driving in a car, is that "safely" ? |
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Krock |
waressearcher2, eh, no, it's good. |
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est31 |
I mean if I have POST bank.com/send_money.asp?to=563634&amount=42 |
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est31 |
then its not privacy anymore |
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est31 |
anybody in your wlan could give them money xD |
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waressearcher2 |
bank.com/get_money.asp?to=563634&amount=1000000 |
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est31 |
no 42 is a nicer number |
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waressearcher2 |
not if you get 42 cents per hour job |
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waressearcher2 |
why minetest "looks" different from minecraft, I mean not textures, it "feel" different, they both use opengl right ? so what is the other stuff that is different ? you can say engine, but what exactly ? |
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est31 |
waressearcher2, well then you should get 42 cents per second job |
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est31 |
or milisecond |
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est31 |
or sth between |
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kahrl |
wait a second |
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kahrl |
isn't there a * BS missing somewhere |
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kahrl |
er, that should be in -dev |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Disallow placing entities outside safe boundaries f61f817 http://git.io/vZdkY (2015-09-15T19:45:17+02:00) |
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kahrl |
(was talking about this commit ^) |
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waressearcher2 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgqsYVtyPWA the description of that video is interteining: "Here is my first Minecraft related video. It is called Minetest and Minetest is a free version of Minecraft.", again "Minetest is a free version of Minecraft" just think of it |
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Calinou |
it is indeed a free implementation of Minecraft :) /semi-sarcasm |
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Calinou |
but not a version |
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waressearcher2 |
notch was so kind to release free version of Minecraft |
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waressearcher2 |
or from other video: "This is me playing Minetest. Minetest is a free clone of Minecraft." and another: "Hey every one welcome to a series of Minetest fun! Minetest is a free alternative to Minecraft and still as fun as ever.", you can say mostly people got it right |
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waressearcher2 |
but still they all say its "something" of Minecraft, and not like "another voxel based game" |
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Krock |
But only a few use the correct description of Minetest |
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waressearcher2 |
its like from "Jay and Silent bob" moment when actor from american pie complains that every one thinks of hims as "pie-f**er" |
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waressearcher2 |
no you are not another game you are minecraft clone,alternative,version |
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VanessaE |
wrong. |
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VanessaE |
Minetest is a game of its own, not a clone. |
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exio4 |
well, it is 3d |
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exio4 |
i think it is a clone of quake |
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everamzah |
mm..quake |
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Teckla |
What about DOOM? And Castle Wolfenstein? :) |
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Calinou |
Minetest is a CPMA clone!! |
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kahrl |
there is collision detection, so it's a Tennis For Two clone |
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Calinou |
Teckla, if Minetest was a clone of Doom then you'd constantly be in fast mode :3 |
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CWz |
VanessaE: wow the ddos is bad on inchra |
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ElectronLibre |
CWz, are you sure it's a ddos? |
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CWz |
VanessaE: said it's a ddos |
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nanepiwo |
so thats whats wrong... |
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ElectronLibre |
It's maybe related in a way but MinetestForFun's servers were apparently being ddos-ed just before it started. |
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ElectronLibre |
They're still down at the moment. |
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CWz |
It's probbaly some minecrafter scriptkiddy |
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ElectronLibre |
It's probably the same one who did it multiple times the past few weeks then. |
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CWz |
who? |
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ElectronLibre |
We don't know. |
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CWz |
if he's using the ion cannon bot thing then it's possbile to track down who it is i thinl |
| 19:17 |
ElectronLibre |
But the past 2 weeks MinetestForFun's servers have been attacked multiple times, always DDOSes. |
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ElectronLibre |
You should maybe ask him for informations, when he's there. |
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ElectronLibre |
Oh wow, it splitted. |
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CWz |
i wonder if VanessaE is ok |
| 19:26 |
ElectronLibre |
She probably is trying to fix the problem, and restart/reconnect the server. |
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CWz |
She needs ddos protection |
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OldCoder |
Ah |
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OldCoder |
New Inchra is down |
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ElectronLibre |
Part of it, yes. |
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CWz |
the important part is down |
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VanessaE |
the whole server has been null-routed. |
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VanessaE |
I sent the unblock request, now I have to wait for my host to get on the stick. |
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CWz |
what is null routed |
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CWz |
VanessaE? |
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VanessaE |
null-routed basically means they unplugged the cable. |
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