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| 00:06 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959, sry, I was afk. |
| 00:06 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Just do it without the > and see what comes of it, then copy that to a text file. |
| 00:07 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: syntax error |
| 00:08 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hmm. |
| 00:08 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Is minetestserver in that directory? |
| 00:09 |
whtemple1959 |
minetestserver is in /usr/games |
| 00:09 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
What does the cmd [ ls -l ] do? |
| 00:10 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
From within /usr/games/ |
| 00:12 |
whtemple1959 |
jonnyComeL8ly: [ ls -l ] returns unary operator expected and [ls -l] returns command not found |
| 00:13 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComel8ly of course you could haave meant ls -l which returns privviledges and ownership of nimetestserver and minetestmapper |
| 00:15 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: which is -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root for both files |
| 00:15 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Yes, that is what I meant. I was trying to use the [] to make a textual distinction. |
| 00:16 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Well, that could be your problem. |
| 00:16 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
try this: |
| 00:16 |
whtemple1959 |
well the privs and ownership looks normal |
| 00:17 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh, yeah, duh, I (somehow) mixed up what I saw. (Thanks for the correction). |
| 00:18 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959, try /usr/games/mintestserver --verbose |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: it starts the game with a long list of completed tasks still will not print a report using the > symbol |
| 00:25 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: I truly appreciate all your time, patience, and attempts and resolving this. as I stated eariler everything works fine when using regular minetest as a multiplayer so I believe I will remove the server and install regular minetest and hope xorg doesn't panic when it does not see a monitor and keyboard |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Ok, but I don't think it will work. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959, It should be working... I just did it with minetestserver . |
| 00:30 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
./minetestserver --terminal --worldname NameOfYourWorld > ~/mtdebug.txt |
| 00:30 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh, boogers... don't put --terminal in yours. |
| 00:31 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComel8ly: I have a pentium, 4g of ram, debian 8, nfs server, openssh server, tightvncserver, xorg, and lxde-core nothing else to conflict. the minetestserver works and I can add mods. minetesteserver does not use VanessaE's textures and of course without the conf file my son cannot fly so I am at a loss |
| 00:32 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: the games is in /usr/games everything elese is in /usr/share/games/minetest and of course there is stuff in /home/creator/.minetest |
| 00:33 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: try ls /home/creator/.minetest/ |
| 00:33 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I just thought about how there might be a log file there. |
| 00:34 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: returns... debug.txt, minetest.conf, worlds |
| 00:41 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
nano debug.txt |
| 00:41 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Do that. |
| 00:41 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Sorry for the wait. |
| 00:44 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: no faults no errors shows the server starting and the server stopping |
| 00:44 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Clear the file of text and then do |
| 00:45 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
/usr/games/mintestserver --verbose |
| 00:45 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: ^^ :-) |
| 00:46 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComel8ly: just shows the game starting and stopping |
| 00:46 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
If you have a "world" already put --worldname NameOfYourWorld in the cmd too. |
| 00:53 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: nothing inthe debug. I made an error in my typing and got the help menu there is a switch called trace that may write to a log let me try that |
| 00:53 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Ok. |
| 01:00 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: Did you gain any traction? |
| 01:00 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: nothing if there is a log I do not know where it went. no mention of it in the terminal screen. It is late and although I wish I could pound this rock forever you and I both have other things to do...so again thank you for your time, patience, and understanding. if someone managesto post a working solution to my forum post I will come back and let you know. |
| 01:01 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
What is your forum post? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
You are welcome, btw. :-) |
| 01:02 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComel8ly: see you soon |
| 01:15 |
MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Tune biome points and biome depths 592ca34 http://git.io/vlQGZ (2015-11-04T01:13:46Z) |
| 01:22 |
rubenwardy |
JohnnyComeL8ly, he's left now, but > won't work as the log goes to stderr not stdout |
| 01:22 |
rubenwardy |
> only logs stdout |
| 01:24 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Ok, I think I get what you're saying, but is --verbose going to give everything to stdout? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
rubenwardy: Is --verbose going to give everything to stdout? |
| 02:13 |
rubenwardy |
I very much doubt it |
| 02:13 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
stdout is what you see in the terminal, right? |
| 02:13 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 02:14 |
rubenwardy |
you see both stdout and stderr in the terminal |
| 02:14 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Ok. |
| 02:14 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I get it now. |
| 02:14 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/688556a5d1910ead2cf06a87af6908110fa9d035/src/log.cpp#L88 |
| 02:14 |
rubenwardy |
goes to the same place as all the others, it seems |
| 02:15 |
rubenwardy |
you can print stderr output to files |
| 02:15 |
rubenwardy |
!g bash stderr to file |
| 02:15 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html |
| 02:15 |
rubenwardy |
>&1 |
| 02:15 |
rubenwardy |
so cmd >&1 filepath |
| 02:15 |
rubenwardy |
afaik |
| 02:17 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
(Not trying to put you down) Are you saying that you were wrong about stderr not being captured by > |
| 02:17 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
? |
| 02:17 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 02:17 |
rubenwardy |
> won't capture stderr output |
| 02:17 |
rubenwardy |
you need to use a different type of pipe |
| 02:17 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Does 2> do that? |
| 02:17 |
rubenwardy |
the >&1 is the pipe to use |
| 02:17 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh. |
| 02:18 |
rubenwardy |
I think 2 is part of the grep |
| 02:18 |
rubenwardy |
I'm not sure |
| 02:18 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 02:19 |
rubenwardy |
2> appears to only output stderr, and discards stdout |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
3.5 of the howto says 2>&1 converts stderr to stdout |
| 02:21 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
This is interesting. |
| 02:21 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Thanks, rubenwardy. |
| 02:21 |
rubenwardy |
&> |
| 02:21 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 02:21 |
rubenwardy |
That link was terrible |
| 02:21 |
rubenwardy |
bad MinetestBox |
| 02:21 |
rubenwardy |
./bin/minetest --verbose &> log2.txt |
| 02:22 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
That's a bad howto? |
| 02:22 |
rubenwardy |
oh, 3.6 was the right one |
| 02:26 |
rubenwardy |
Just finished my essay, realised that I've been in size 11pt all this time, and that size 12pt puts me one paragraph over the page limit :'( |
| 02:27 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh, bummer. |
| 02:28 |
rubenwardy |
I'm doing "How did the Military influence the development of programming languages?" |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
rubenwardy, that is interesting... I'm assuming they did substantially, or is it a prank with one word per page? :-P |
| 02:38 |
rubenwardy |
It's a maximum limit, you can write less |
| 02:38 |
rubenwardy |
but you won't get all the marsk |
| 02:38 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh, is it to make things easier for whoever grades them? |
| 02:38 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 02:39 |
rubenwardy |
The essay is 20% of the Origins of CS class |
| 02:39 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm sure you used spellcheck, so that should be a problem. |
| 02:39 |
rubenwardy |
it counts towards my first year grade |
| 02:39 |
rubenwardy |
It doesn't disallow spellcheck |
| 02:40 |
rubenwardy |
I'm doing a Computer Science degree, not an English degree :P |
| 02:40 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
:-D |
| 02:41 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
By, CS class you mean "classes" like id and class from CSS, right? |
| 02:41 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 02:41 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 02:41 |
rubenwardy |
class as in module of study |
| 02:42 |
rubenwardy |
like Maths class |
| 02:42 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh, so "Origins of ComputerScience class?" |
| 02:42 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 02:43 |
rubenwardy |
anyway, better get my 5 hours of sleep left (y) |
| 02:45 |
MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Time: use locks again 8f03995 http://git.io/vlQ9g (2015-11-04T03:44:09+01:00) |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3zZLcsZQQM |
| 02:52 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
!link |
| 02:52 |
est31 |
!title |
| 02:52 |
MinetestBot |
est31: The Most Beautiful Music Ever Composed 2/2 (Instrumental Ave Maria by Michal Lorenc) - YouTube |
| 02:52 |
est31 |
you mean |
| 02:52 |
est31 |
oh clicky baity |
| 02:52 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I was just going to try that.... |
| 02:53 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I was just going to ask him how to download his fresh ncurses-terminal code.... (Arg) |
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swift110-phone |
Hey |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Guys, I need help. |
| 03:33 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
The newly compiled MT I just did has a lot of screen flickering... I tried to catch it with a screenshot, but I couldn't... as soon as I pressed Esc (the menu came up) and the flickering stopped. If I press Esc to exit that menu, then the flickering starts up again. |
| 03:41 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Wait, I got one.... |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
https://imgur.com/3OJPTp9 |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
What does "INFO[Main]: Audio: Vorbis extension NOT present" mean? |
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Hijiri |
the examples I've seen of groups had the values be numbers, but I could put things like functions or tables in there too, right? |
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swift110-phone |
Hdy |
| 06:24 |
swift110-phone |
Hey |
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Hijiri |
hi |
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swift110-phone |
How r u |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm dandy... but tired. C'y'all l8r! |
| 06:41 |
basil60 |
Hi just tried logging into my remote Minetest server. It was down - when I restarted it, there were a whole bunch of errors. I droped them in Pastebin - http://pastebin.com/9UQBd4fL - if anyone has time to look please? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
basil60, it appears you have thyme against you. |
| 06:46 |
basil60 |
JohnnyComeL8ly - you've lost me? |
| 06:46 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm joking... but it looks like a file was messed up. |
| 06:46 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
open env_meta.txt in your world folder. |
| 06:47 |
basil60 |
JohnnyComeL8ly yep |
| 06:47 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
You opened it? |
| 06:47 |
basil60 |
going there |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
k |
| 06:48 |
basil60 |
yep |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Is it blank? |
| 06:48 |
basil60 |
yep |
| 06:48 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Error is found |
| 06:49 |
basil60 |
how do I rebuild the file? |
| 06:49 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
How many hours has your server been up? |
| 06:49 |
basil60 |
not long..it's only a sandbox...nothing really important |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
game_time = 100 |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
time_of_day = 09000 |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
EnvArgsEnd |
| 06:50 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
That is how a working one should look. |
| 06:51 |
basil60 |
3 lines and save? |
| 06:51 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
The first variable is in seconds... afaIk. Yes, save and restart your server. |
| 06:52 |
basil60 |
I'll give it a whirl |
| 06:52 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Idk what causes that to happen, but I've had to do this a couple of times. |
| 06:53 |
basil60 |
your a lifesaver..thanks |
| 06:54 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
You are welcome! |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm tired. C'y'all l8r! |
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basil60 |
I'll document your fix for next time |
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swift110-phone |
Hm |
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Out`Of`Control |
Hi, how disable join/leave messages? |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Stress Awareness Day! 😃 |
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fling |
Is there a mod like dynmap for mc? |
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kaeza |
o/ |
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Calinou |
Out`Of`Control, in Minetest? they are hardcoded :( |
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kaeza |
that's one part that could be implemented in Lua instead of being hardcoded... |
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Out`Of`Control |
Calinou: i see |
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Out`Of`Control |
at last i update from 0.4.10-dev to 0.4.13-dev |
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Issue2035 |
Liberty Land? |
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Issue2035 |
niice |
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Issue2035 |
Love that server too, glad people picked it up |
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Issue2035 |
have a small house there, people got very nice builds there |
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Issue2035 |
i see most of the servers with players are already on 0.4.13 |
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Out`Of`Control |
Issue2035: yeah |
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alket |
hi, how to open Shared Locked Door |
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alket |
owned by me |
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Obani |
Shared locked door ? |
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Obani |
What mod is that ? |
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alket |
idk |
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Obani |
On what server ? |
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alket |
VanessaE Dram Builder Survival |
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Obani |
I send you an agent :p |
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Obani |
(me) |
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alket |
what do you mean ? |
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Obani |
alket, let me upload the server medias |
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Obani |
I'm coming in-game |
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Megaf |
Calinou: Hi there |
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Megaf |
[22:27:55] <Megaf_> so, gNewSense 3 from years ago runnign GNOME uses the very same amount of RAM that Debian Sid using MATE uses today |
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Megaf |
[22:28:04] <Megaf_> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf/98157d55502211cd4f75/raw/848e10c7bb36e942ed75c5e75a9edba1163e1ec9/gistfile1.txt |
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Megaf |
[22:28:09] <Megaf_> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf/9907f2121e37e71e3eaa/raw/fcd055a8c71d64253e94361772255de020fa4894/gistfile1.txt |
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Megaf |
Calinou: ^ |
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alket |
thanks Obani |
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Obani |
np :) |
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Obani |
alket, highlight me if you have another problem ;) |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hello, everyone who looks at the new messages. ;-) |
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Megaf |
Hey JohnnyComeL8ly |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hello, you must be one of those people! |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
*Hello, Megaf ... |
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Megaf |
:P |
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Megaf |
usually I am not |
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alket |
can you take an amount of item from a player ? |
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alket |
something like opposite of /give |
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Teckla |
/take |
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Teckla |
Oh, sorry, that's not an answer :) |
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Teckla |
Just suggesting that /take would be cool heh |
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rom1504 |
negative item count in /give ? :p |
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kaeza |
/ban ? |
| 15:29 |
kaeza |
<_< |
| 15:30 |
kaeza |
or `rm players/$PLAYER` |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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PilzAdam |
alket, /help pulverize |
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PilzAdam |
hmm... seems it doesn't work for other players |
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alket |
yeah :s |
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alket |
something like /take default:cobbelstone 10 |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Well, how about you edit their inventory? |
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alket |
JohnnyComeL8ly: can that be done while player is playing ? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
alket, try looking at the player file... you'll see how much they have in their inventory. |
| 15:41 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm thinking not. |
| 15:42 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
It has never worked to edit the auth.txt for fly,fast in singleplayer. (I've since learned about /grant singleplayer fast,fly ). |
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alket |
JohnnyComeL8ly: yeah that would have been much easier |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
est31: how do I git your ncurses minetest? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
alket: make your own mod. |
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est31 |
JohnnyComeL8ly, https://github.com/est31/minetest/archive/ncurses-console.zip |
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alket |
JohnnyComeL8ly: I don't think thats possible unless the "core" supports it |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm not sure how useful it would be on a "good" server, but you probably have a use for it. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
est31: I know I can get the zip, but I was wanting to do git pull to update it. |
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rubenwardy |
http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/itemstacks.html |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
alket: ^^ |
| 15:46 |
alket |
JohnnyComeL8ly: I made a web application for minetest, where you can buy/sell items, buy areas etc. but I can't make it easy so it can take the coins from player :) |
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rubenwardy |
and https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2509 |
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alket |
thanks rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
eventually I'll write an inventory chapter too |
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rubenwardy |
Following open.gl |
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rubenwardy |
https://open.gl/ |
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rubenwardy |
Calinou XD |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
est31: I figured out how do do it with git! |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
git clone -b ncurses-console https://github.com/est31/minetest.git |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I checked src/CMakeLists.txt for "ncurses" and it was there, so I know I got the right code. |
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rubenwardy |
Failed to Create OpenGL Context |
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rubenwardy |
:'( |
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rubenwardy |
Guess I need something newer than OpenGL |
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rubenwardy |
2.1 |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
lol Yeah, that might help. |
| 16:12 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Are you using Intel GMA 4500 ? |
| 16:13 |
rubenwardy |
integrated graphics |
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rubenwardy |
by Intel |
| 16:13 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Yeah. |
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rubenwardy |
I'll just use Irrlicht |
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rubenwardy |
I want to experiment with shaders |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
You're not the one who broke shaders for GMA 4500 are you? |
| 16:14 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
In MT that is. |
| 16:16 |
rubenwardy |
No? |
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rubenwardy |
I've never touched Minetest's shaders |
| 16:16 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
My sibs used to be able to play that way on our dad's PC, but now, with 0.4.13 we can't use shaders and the tools look rather "clumsy" (chunky). |
| 16:16 |
rubenwardy |
that'll be RealBadAngel |
| 16:16 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh. |
| 16:16 |
rubenwardy |
This is offtopic |
| 16:16 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm not in -dev. |
| 16:22 |
Issue2035 |
\o\ |
| 16:23 |
rubenwardy |
Offtopic, as in I'm offtopic |
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rubenwardy |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
| 16:23 |
Issue2035 |
so much people with crappy graphics |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
I'm practising with shaders not at all related to MT |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
Issue2035, I haven't got around to building a computer yet |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
also, *so many |
| 16:25 |
Issue2035 |
is not you can choose components and shop guy will build it for a small fee? It is pretty common |
| 16:26 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
The *Issue is that it costs money.... ;-P |
| 16:27 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Part of the fun is doing it yourself. |
| 16:28 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I do agree that many people have crappy graphics chips, but that is just the way it is. |
| 16:29 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Maybe there should be a "module" or something where you can swap the newer shaders for the old ones that work properly. This way, one could have the best of both worlds. |
| 16:29 |
Issue2035 |
it feels like MT has some kind of Pentium III with Windows 98SE + android 2.3 community |
| 16:29 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
LOL |
| 16:29 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I don't think anybody runs that hardware for MT. |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
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rubenwardy |
I have Pentium |
| 16:31 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
III ? |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
not sure about III |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
Almost certainly not |
| 16:31 |
Issue2035 |
i've heared new words today: "performance monkeys", unlike "*ing" one's |
| 16:32 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Yeah, thats wut I thought. |
| 16:32 |
Issue2035 |
I have PIII machine with Win98SE, wonder if minetest will work on Riva TNT Vanta |
| 16:32 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
OH< no. |
| 16:32 |
Issue2035 |
collects dust at work |
| 16:32 |
Issue2035 |
was changed half a year ago |
| 16:32 |
Issue2035 |
Win98SE lives on |
| 16:32 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
That is a Web server, not a PC. |
| 16:33 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Put media in a folder and serve it up using GNU/Linux+Lighttpd. |
| 16:34 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Gotta love that server software.... |
| 16:34 |
Issue2035 |
back in ~1999 my relative got PII-400Mhz with some kind of 3DFX videocard, that was super neat to play quake on it, Win 95OCR2 though |
| 16:35 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Where do you live, that you just got a PIII machine retired? |
| 16:35 |
Issue2035 |
Ukraine |
| 16:35 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm thinking you must live in the past... ~2003 |
| 16:35 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh, ok. |
| 16:35 |
Issue2035 |
well it was working nicely |
| 16:35 |
Issue2035 |
why retire? |
| 16:36 |
Issue2035 |
it needs MS Office, has printer |
| 16:36 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
You said it was changed. |
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Issue2035 |
no internet for it, why pay money for new crap that you don't need? |
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Issue2035 |
yes |
| 16:36 |
Issue2035 |
there is another Celeron or Pentium machine with XP |
| 16:37 |
Issue2035 |
instead of it |
| 16:37 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Wait, weren't you the one just complaining about a community that runs Android 2.3? |
| 16:38 |
Issue2035 |
I don't buy this consumerism crap about updating Windows (by paying money to MS, no less, people will not update even with pirate one) |
| 16:38 |
Issue2035 |
nope |
| 16:38 |
Issue2035 |
or yes |
| 16:38 |
Issue2035 |
just few mins ago |
| 16:39 |
Issue2035 |
there are lots of 2.3 phones |
| 16:39 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I don't buy into that crap either... I use GNU/Linux. |
| 16:39 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
And I don't really like the Android platform as a whole. |
| 16:39 |
Issue2035 |
another big pain in the ***, and manufacturers don't even want to update anything |
| 16:39 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Yes, right? |
| 16:39 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
It is only about mullah. |
| 16:39 |
Issue2035 |
btw, I have 2.3 phone and 4.4 tablet, no updates for me anymore |
| 16:40 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Sorry. |
| 16:40 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Which phone? |
| 16:40 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I might find something for it... on XDA. |
| 16:40 |
Issue2035 |
Samsung Gio blabla |
| 16:40 |
Issue2035 |
don't |
| 16:40 |
Issue2035 |
it works well |
| 16:41 |
Issue2035 |
and I rarely use it for internet |
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Issue2035 |
any android phone is piece of vulner*ble ***p, nobody updates them, they just want you to buy a new one, what a silly manufacturers |
| 16:42 |
Issue2035 |
I feel like we need that damn nokias back |
| 16:42 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: the txt file from your sugestion is too big for pastie I can break it up into section or paste it to a respnse to your forum email how would you like to take a look at it? |
| 16:43 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Use paste.ubuntu.com |
| 16:43 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: ^^ |
| 16:44 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
And put a that link in the forum thread too. |
| 16:44 |
Issue2035 |
i've seen some tablet with custom Cyanogen, damn it was so slow, slow as 33Mhz PC i played on |
| 16:44 |
Issue2035 |
turbo on of course |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13102681/ |
| 16:46 |
Issue2035 |
there is P4 1.7 GHz (slow kind) + Radeon 7(5,2,0)00 available, can test MT there :} |
| 16:46 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: this is refreshing... ;-) |
| 16:47 |
Issue2035 |
you know what I missing in old PC? White colour, and HDD cracking, that was also sweat sound |
| 16:47 |
Issue2035 |
you was hearing a real work done, now it is fans only |
| 16:48 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
lol |
| 16:48 |
Issue2035 |
also |
| 16:48 |
Issue2035 |
MT runs under Win 3.11? |
| 16:48 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
ikd |
| 16:48 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
*Idk |
| 16:48 |
Issue2035 |
I think some far friend has that 33MHz with DOS and W311 |
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Issue2035 |
with 20mb hdd probably |
| 16:49 |
whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: btw the command was /usr/games/minetestserver --verbose --config /home/creator/.minetest/minetest.conf &> /home/creator/mtdebug.txt |
| 16:50 |
Issue2035 |
will be real cool to install Coherent Unix on it |
| 16:50 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: Sounds good.... |
| 16:50 |
whtemple1959 |
JonnyComeL8ly: I must run an errand I will leave it to you and your brain trust to mull over and decide I if I am a lost cause |
| 16:51 |
Issue2035 |
that gregorycu guy is so sneaky, can't even slap him with a few bugz |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: I don't notice any errors there. |
| 16:53 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Issue2035, you are fun. |
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| 16:55 |
Issue2035 |
i see people mentioning flickering |
| 16:55 |
Issue2035 |
i have that too in universal craft |
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Issue2035 |
VanessaE: you here, what is the name of crafting guide in your DreamBuilder game? Do you get flickering when changing pages in it? (for the first time) |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE |
Unified Inventory |
| 16:58 |
VanessaE |
and yes, the pages flicker. minetest engine issue. |
| 16:58 |
Issue2035 |
ah |
| 16:58 |
Issue2035 |
bugs, bugs everywhere |
| 16:58 |
VanessaE |
has something to do with the code that renders items for display in an inventory -- the default inventory does the same thing, just less so. |
| 16:59 |
Issue2035 |
also |
| 17:00 |
Issue2035 |
VanessaE: you mentioned moretrees shadow tree problem, but I'm getting it too on default trees too on maikerumine's server, really strange |
| 17:00 |
Issue2035 |
need to test on SP |
| 17:00 |
VanessaE |
that shadow bug only happens with mgv7 |
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Issue2035 |
on all trees? |
| 17:00 |
Issue2035 |
it was 7, yes |
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Issue2035 |
BUT |
| 17:00 |
Issue2035 |
on newly grown trees |
| 17:00 |
VanessaE |
mostly with moretrees, but it would affect any mod that uses the spawn_tree() lsystem call |
| 17:01 |
Issue2035 |
place and grow them at night, day, ???, faulty shadows! |
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Issue2035 |
i will try it in git version |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
it has something to do with how the engine manages it's internal voxel manip region that the trees spawn in |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: *poke* |
| 17:01 |
* Issue2035 |
<<< FIX ME! |
| 17:02 |
Issue2035 |
need to update minetest_game |
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VanessaE |
Issue2035: update your "more screenshots" in that issue to point to https://imgrush.com/d71a3dd6ffbd |
| 17:03 |
Issue2035 |
good to know people are working on water columns fix |
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| 17:04 |
Issue2035 |
that bug is super horrible |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
also, your screenshots don't show anything useful |
| 17:04 |
Issue2035 |
VanessaE: it is not mine screenshots :) |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
oh yeah |
| 17:04 |
Issue2035 |
VanessaE: btw, look on far towers |
| 17:05 |
Issue2035 |
VanessaE: it is in fact very visible ingame, that issue has better screens |
| 17:05 |
VanessaE |
ont he distant towers, I see some bits of wood on the outside, is that what you're talking about? |
| 17:06 |
Issue2035 |
VanessaE: guh, you are not recognizing the problem, look here https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/6941454/6275374/dc7d994e-b87e-11e4-8510-ad05e7115cba.png |
| 17:06 |
Issue2035 |
best example |
| 17:06 |
Issue2035 |
but yes, often inside of houses are rendered |
| 17:06 |
Issue2035 |
that is just super annoying |
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| 17:06 |
Issue2035 |
MESE block has problems |
| 17:07 |
VanessaE |
you talking about those diagonal stripes? |
| 17:08 |
Issue2035 |
yes |
| 17:08 |
Issue2035 |
they are common |
| 17:08 |
Issue2035 |
on houses |
| 17:08 |
Issue2035 |
too |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 17:08 |
Issue2035 |
when you walk it is moving and changing too |
| 17:08 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: /home/creator/.minetest/worlds/world/auth.txt |
| 17:09 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
What does that say? |
| 17:09 |
Issue2035 |
VanessaE: you can rotate that stripes by changing view angle |
| 17:09 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
btw, I'm soon gonna help my dad with woodworking... no help then. |
| 17:09 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
*no help from me |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
Issue2035: that effect is called z-fighting |
| 17:10 |
Issue2035 |
there were no such problem in earlie MT, i don't remember it, I've noticed it in 0.4.13 |
| 17:11 |
Issue2035 |
I remember it in other games |
| 17:11 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959, edit your last post with your cmd |
| 17:13 |
Issue2035 |
Calinou: you need to fix your README for Carbone-ng, it says "To use this subgame with the Minetest engine, insert this repository as /games/minetest_game" but it is not minetest_game |
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| 17:16 |
Issue2035 |
started new world and after few steps i"m already seeing z-fighting 50~ away (water vs smth) |
| 17:16 |
Issue2035 |
stripe -;ike |
| 17:17 |
Issue2035 |
stuttering is hard |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
water flickering between opaque and transparent? |
| 17:18 |
Issue2035 |
no |
| 17:18 |
Issue2035 |
like on that screenshot i posted there |
| 17:18 |
VanessaE |
weird bug anyway |
| 17:18 |
Issue2035 |
stripes |
| 17:18 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 17:18 |
Issue2035 |
when looking from above |
| 17:18 |
Issue2035 |
soo it appears in lots of situaltions |
| 17:19 |
Issue2035 |
mese block have this |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
I've never had the bug you describe happen to me unless I was flying around inside a mesh node (e.g. stairs) |
| 17:19 |
Issue2035 |
i've seen it on your server :} |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
and then it was only z-fighting with the immediately-neighboring face(s)., |
| 17:20 |
Issue2035 |
not far from spawn, i will look at it again |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: the auth.txt file is here...http://paste.ubuntu.com/13103114/ I do not know what you mean by edit my last post with my cmd. I must get out the door and run these errands before my son gets home I will be back in an hour |
| 17:34 |
Issue2035 |
фрррр |
| 17:34 |
Issue2035 |
ahh* forgot that trees are now requiring light level 13 |
| 17:35 |
Issue2035 |
was waiting for 10 min to grow, like an idiot |
| 17:35 |
alket |
is there just a simple minetest coin ? |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
alket: maptools has copper, silver, and gold coins. |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
most servers have that mod, but no one ever uses those coins for some reason |
| 17:36 |
alket |
thanks VanessaE |
| 17:37 |
alket |
VanessaE: I can't find it here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1882 |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/Calinou/maptools/blob/master/craftitems.lua#L12 |
| 17:38 |
alket |
thanks |
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Issue2035 |
hmm, can I grow them by placing mese lamp to the side of saplinks? |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
that's exactly what paramat had in mind |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
super glow glass should also work |
| 17:42 |
rubenwardy |
OpenGL is infuriating |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: what'chya programming? |
| 17:42 |
Issue2035 |
superglow glass? is it not default |
| 17:43 |
rubenwardy |
I'm trying to learn to do shaders |
| 17:43 |
rubenwardy |
https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/27ec8bf88a6fa611a63a |
| 17:43 |
Issue2035 |
infuriating since 1992 %) |
| 17:44 |
rubenwardy |
updated to add more info |
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Ingar |
issue is GLEW, not OpenGL |
| 17:45 |
rubenwardy |
added all the code |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
the errors are in GLU |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
if I do #include <GL/glu.h> instead of <GL/glew.h>, the errors are the same |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
now has my source code: #https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/27ec8bf88a6fa611a63a |
| 17:48 |
Ingar |
you hae a weird glu.h |
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Ingar |
that windows ? |
| 17:49 |
rubenwardy |
added the glu.h |
| 17:49 |
rubenwardy |
no, lol |
| 17:51 |
rubenwardy |
maybe: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/27ec8bf88a6fa611a63a#file-glu-h-L16 |
| 17:51 |
rubenwardy |
I use xubuntu 14.0 |
| 17:51 |
rubenwardy |
4 |
| 17:51 |
Ingar |
* This file is part of the mingw-w64 runtime package. |
| 17:52 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
| 17:52 |
rubenwardy |
ffs, mingw |
| 17:52 |
Ingar |
mingw-w64 != mingw |
| 17:52 |
Ingar |
but, close enough ;) |
| 17:53 |
rubenwardy |
how do I fix this? |
| 17:53 |
rubenwardy |
I might just reinstall the OS :'( |
| 17:53 |
Ingar |
donno what package provides it though, mine might come with the nvidia driver |
| 17:53 |
alket |
oh World Edit black areas are still here :s |
| 17:54 |
rubenwardy |
I tried setting up mingw earlier this year, and it did this |
| 17:54 |
rubenwardy |
lesson learned |
| 17:55 |
rubenwardy |
Don't trust online bash scripts even if they look okay, as they may have side effects |
| 17:55 |
rubenwardy |
especially sfa_5's |
| 17:59 |
Ingar |
hehe |
| 17:59 |
Ingar |
if you want to setup mingw on windows, I have a pretty complete guide |
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alket |
nice /mapfix fixes it |
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Issue2035 |
you can make /mapfix 1000 and go on a trip to mountains |
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Issue2035 |
it is very slow, once did /mapfix 200 on new redcrab, max_lag was over 200 |
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Issue2035 |
was unable to reproduce tree shadow bug in git version |
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Ingar |
is that where the land gets very dark when you grow trees ? |
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Issue2035 |
yes |
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Issue2035 |
can i disable email notifications from forum? too much of them |
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Issue2035 |
i've deleted 2 pages, disabled it somewhere in control panel... yet no luck |
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Ingar |
Issue2035: getting that all the time |
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Ingar |
(in git) |
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Issue2035 |
o.O |
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Ingar |
trying to make a sshot |
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Ingar |
so you can verify we're talking about the same |
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rubenwardy |
Ingar, I was trying to cross-compile to windows |
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Ingar |
Supertanker2: you supertanker, you here too? :) |
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rubenwardy |
Issue2035, I don't get email notifications from the forum |
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rubenwardy |
do you mean GitHub? |
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Ingar |
Issue2035: ofc, it's night on my map :) |
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Issue2035 |
forum |
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rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/ucp.php?i=main&mode=subscribed |
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rubenwardy |
unsubscribe from all there |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: I mean, edit your last post in the forum so that it contains which cmd you used to start the server. |
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rubenwardy |
http://new2.fjcdn.com/pictures/Et+in+star+wars_64f05d_3765697.jpg |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: ok |
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Issue2035 |
thank you! |
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Ingar |
Issue2035: is it like this http://ingar.satgnu.net/files/minetest/screenshot_20151104_192435.png ? |
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Issue2035 |
Ingar: yes |
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Ingar |
that's a not-so-old git build |
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Issue2035 |
Ingar: if you can, please post about it on github or forum in bugz section |
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Issue2035 |
i get it on 0.4.13 on multiplayer server |
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Issue2035 |
but cannot reproduce in git in single player |
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Ingar |
Issue2035: I wonder if you'd get it if I shared you the map |
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Ingar |
and if there's a topi calready :) |
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Ingar |
*topic |
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whtemple1959 |
JOhnnyComeL8ly: it is posted to the forum |
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Issue2035 |
i don't see any topics about it |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnnyComeL8ly: could a conflict or a syntax error in my conf file cause the server application to ignore it and move on? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm not sure. paste it. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959: ^^ |
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Ingar |
anything in the world files I should not publicly share ? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
whtemple1959, minetest.conf |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13104283/ in the map section I seem to have both mg & mgv6 instructions and I think maybe those to are in conflict with each other |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Maybe... try to do a minimal conf. |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: be right back |
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PilzAdam |
Ingar, auth.txt, maybe |
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Ingar |
Issue2035: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13536 |
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Issue2035 |
thanks |
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Ingar |
too bad the tower on that map hasn't been finished yet :) |
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Issue2035 |
water is so lazy in MT |
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Issue2035 |
does not flow in newly generated caves |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: a cong with only creative_mode = true and it still is not processed |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: if the auth.txt file and the worl.mt files can be edited is there another file where I can put the creative mode command? |
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Issue2035 |
craaaaaaaaaaaaaash |
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Issue2035 |
and log was turned off, ffffs, #0 EmergeThread::run was last one |
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Issue2035 |
VanessaE: any advances on that fog problem? |
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VanessaE |
idk |
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Issue2035 |
VanessaE: your attempt failed, as I understand :) |
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VanessaE |
huh? |
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Issue2035 |
nvmnd |
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Issue2035 |
looking at new mapgen views made me sleepy |
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whtemple1959 |
JohnnyComeL8ly: I must go get my son from school I shall return before dinner |
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JBB |
I cant login on the forum. I tried to reset the passwort and also tried to register the account again. nothing worked. Kann someone help me please? |
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Calinou |
JBB, what happens when you try to log in? what's your forum username? |
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Calinou |
your account is already activated by the way (if it's "jbb") |
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AndDT |
Issue2035: I have Pentium-MMX 166 mhz :) |
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AndDT |
It was my first _own_ machine |
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Issue2035 |
cool |
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Issue2035 |
what is installed on it? |
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AndDT |
And I am from Ukraine too :) |
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AndDT |
Slackware 14.1 |
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AndDT |
+ freedos 1.0 |
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AndDT |
Slackware on 20gb hdd in mobilerack |
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Jordach |
oh baby |
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Jordach |
OH BABY |
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Jordach |
i shouldn't be doing this |
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Jordach |
(i've added experimental PBR support for my Blender models) |
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Jordach |
http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/PBR.png |