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who_wants_some_ |
Sokomine, for example on 220 45 2 |
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Sokomine, it is not your problem really, just interesting to look at |
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Sokomine |
who_wants_some_: hmm. perhaps protection could be removed with a special command if the node where the plotmarker would be expected is loaded and does not contain a plotmarker |
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who_wants_some_ |
could be |
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twoelk |
Sokomine: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=199696#p199696 - having fun with villages |
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who_wants_some_ |
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Topic for #minetest is now Welcome to #minetest, official Minetest channel | Latest version: 0.4.13 (2015-08-20) | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ |
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VanessaE_ |
good morning |
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swift110-phone |
How r u |
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VanessaE_ |
tired :P |
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VanessaE_ |
and still a little ... tipsy ;) |
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swift110-phone |
Oh ok |
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swift110-phone |
Im great |
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VanessaE_ |
good :) |
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swift110-phone |
Thanks |
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swift110-phone |
How long you been playing the game? |
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VanessaE_ |
since March 2012. |
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swift110-phone |
What introduced you to it |
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VanessaE_ |
I originally went looking for some kind of open-source equivalent to redstone. found mesecons and hence minetest. |
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swift110-phone |
Oh |
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swift110-phone |
Thought it would have been minecraft |
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VanessaE_ |
nope. |
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VanessaE_ |
never actually touched it. |
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VanessaE_ |
seen plenty of videos, but that's about it |
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swift110-phone |
Oh ok |
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swift110-phone |
I seen a friend play it |
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swift110-phone |
But i was already really tired so i fell asleep |
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swift110-phone |
I like minetest though |
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VanessaE_ |
I'm pretty biased toward open source, so.. :) |
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swift110-phone |
Me too |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Systems Engineer Day! 😃 |
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jemadux |
any guide to minetest crafting ? |
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who_wants_some |
jemadux, http://wiki.minetest.net/Crafting |
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rubenwardy |
What's the best way to make a temporary impregnable barrier? I want to separate two teams in CTF by a red barrier before the match. |
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Krock |
hai |
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rubenwardy |
hi |
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Krock |
MTB! :( |
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who_wants_some |
hi |
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Builder123 |
hi 2e! |
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twoelk |
hi |
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twoelk |
hi |
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twoelk |
or ... moin moin! |
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Builder123 |
Its been a busy and harrowing thanksgiving week. Im glad my second son came to visit :) |
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Builder123 |
I am glad that things are getting back to normal... |
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twoelk |
it's been quite around here (which is a really good thing in Europe at the moment) except that --- Winter has come! |
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twoelk |
and things are beginning to get christmassy |
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Builder123 |
alas - the cold weather has dropped in on us this past week - but currently a wonderful 70 Degrees Fahrenheit |
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Builder123 |
It is a shopper's delight with Black Friday - well shoppers with liquid assets :) |
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Builder123 |
I am hoping for a mild winter to reduce energy consumption |
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Builder123 |
take care - Im moving to the ve-server forum. |
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twoelk |
just was in my favorite city "Lübeck" and it's just nice to see all the deco being put up and christmas smells drifting through the city |
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who_wants_some |
winter? o_0 are you living in antarctica? |
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twoelk |
eh? it's summer down there now |
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Ingar |
it's 4°C outside |
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Krock2 |
it's dark outside |
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Ingar |
I have a sensor outside |
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Ingar |
so I can stay inside, where it is warm |
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twoelk |
hm - similar here but a snow front is said to be approaching tonight |
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twoelk |
the snow of a few days ago has turned to the ussual grey muck we normally have lots of until january |
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Krock |
~math |
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Krock |
ShadowBot: math |
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jemadux |
any server with full modes ? |
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VanessaE_ |
full modes? |
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jemadux |
with all modes |
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VanessaE_ |
what do you mean "with all modes" |
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jemadux |
like to play minecraft |
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VanessaE_ |
you'll need to be more specific |
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VanessaE_ |
most of us here don't play minecraft |
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VanessaE_ |
and minetest does not connnect with it either |
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jemadux |
with creepers and wool |
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VanessaE_ |
you mean mods then, not modes. |
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VanessaE_ |
there's no such thing as a server with "all" the mods, there are hundreds of them |
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VanessaE_ |
I don't know which servers have things like creepers, but most of them have wool as that comes with minetest. |
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rubenwardy |
TheWild, how much progress did you make with documenting the network protocol? |
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Putz3000 |
hey all, I installed Minetest 0.4.13 on Ubuntu from repository. No mods yet but I see no sheep. Is this no longer in default install? |
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VanessaE_ |
Putz3000: it never was. |
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VanessaE_ |
get one of the MOBs mods like carbone_mobs |
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VanessaE_ |
( https://github.com/Calinou/carbone_mobs ) |
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Putz3000 |
VanessaE: Really? huh. I could have swore it was...guess I have been away from it too long again...lol. Well that explains it. Thank you. |
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VanessaE_ |
there used to be rats, dungeon masters, and oerkkis in the game, but that was back in 0.3.x |
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Putz3000 |
VanessaE_: so why is Wool default enabled? can you get wool w/ out sheep? |
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VanessaE_ |
those have since been removed in favor of using a mod or something |
| 19:47 |
VanessaE_ |
wool can be crafted from cotton, which is also default |
| 19:48 |
VanessaE_ |
(in minetest, wool == cotton, and papyrus == sugar cane) |
| 19:48 |
Putz3000 |
so if I find cotton growing then I can farm it and from that craft wool which can be used to build beds correct? and beds are now default available starting with 0.4.10 or .13? |
| 19:48 |
VanessaE_ |
yep |
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VanessaE_ |
I forget when beds were added though |
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TheWild |
rubenwardy, nah, not much. It goes pretty badly. I wrote a program that decodes the sniffed packets to show me what's inside (not yet chop commands into pieces). Then I got a more readable dump. Some time later I wrote what information I would like to put in the doc and... it ends here unfortunately. |
| 19:49 |
TheWild |
searching for good words when not busy |
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VanessaE_ |
TheWild: can't nrzkt help you with that? |
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Putz3000 |
ahh sweet. thank you again VanessaE. I will jump back in and get my boy up and running again. |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE_ |
Putz3000: good luck. |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE_ |
jemadux: ^^^^ that is what happens when you choose to ask your question using complete, legible sentences. :P |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE_ |
you get complete answers :) |
| 19:53 |
TheWild |
VanessaE_: maybe |
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TheWild |
though I'm not going to write anything for next few days, |
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TheWild |
rubenwardy: if I ever write it I do not want it to be dry and boring like most RFC's are |
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TheWild |
rubenwardy: other formats than plain text file are accepted? |
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rubenwardy |
ha |
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rubenwardy |
my favourite is markdown |
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Calinou |
yep, Markdown is great. |
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rubenwardy |
<GirlyGamer####> ruben Shakur said i love you to me! |
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who_wants_some |
VanessaE_, not true, mobs were in default 0.3 (iirc): oerkkies and pedobear-like bears with fireballs (epic ones) |
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rubenwardy |
dungeon master |
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who_wants_some |
yes! |
| 20:48 |
rubenwardy |
wtf even "pedobear" |
| 20:49 |
who_wants_some |
their feature was yellow fireballs, and they shooted mostly horizontally, lots of mountains got no base after that |
| 20:49 |
who_wants_some |
that was on celeron server of course |
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who_wants_some |
on original celeron 5XX MHz with 192 mb ram |
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rubenwardy |
I've had so many wooden houses destroyed because of them |
| 20:50 |
who_wants_some |
also, fire was introduced little later |
| 20:50 |
who_wants_some |
after them i believe |
| 20:50 |
who_wants_some |
we were all excited |
| 20:50 |
who_wants_some |
and burn trees and houses ^_^ |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
fire only was introduced in 0.4 |
| 20:51 |
who_wants_some |
it was on redcrab iirc |
| 20:51 |
jemadux |
how do i lock an item ? |
| 20:51 |
who_wants_some |
0.3dev-20111016 got mobs |
| 20:52 |
who_wants_some |
that was 4 years ago :S |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
back then Minetest was much lighter on servers… |
| 20:53 |
who_wants_some |
let me share some historic pic |
| 20:53 |
who_wants_some |
https://i.imgur.com/UZJFYdP.png first fire test iirc |
| 20:54 |
who_wants_some |
that was 0.4.dev-20120408 |
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who_wants_some |
screenshot was made at 09 apr 2012 |
| 20:57 |
who_wants_some |
back then i was compiling my builds on XP |
| 21:00 |
Krock |
Some people still do that |
| 21:00 |
who_wants_some |
like you |
| 21:00 |
rubenwardy |
dungeon master broke blocks ,though |
| 21:01 |
who_wants_some |
yes |
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who_wants_some |
with fireballs |
| 21:01 |
who_wants_some |
like 3*3*3 areas |
| 21:01 |
who_wants_some |
but it was funny |
| 21:01 |
who_wants_some |
and dangerous sometimes |
| 21:01 |
who_wants_some |
i see liquid don't flowing down the slope problems are present in 2011 build |
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who_wants_some |
dat weedy builds |
| 21:04 |
who_wants_some |
i wonder if he is around |
| 21:04 |
who_wants_some |
or minetest delta |
| 21:04 |
VanessaE_ |
[11-27 15:47] <who_wants_some> VanessaE_, not true, mobs were in default 0.3 (iirc): oerkkies and pedobear-like bears with fireballs (epic ones) |
| 21:04 |
VanessaE_ |
I believe I said that already. |
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who_wants_some |
VanessaE_, oh, maybe I missed it |
| 21:05 |
VanessaE_ |
(besides, he was talking about sheep, not the old 0.3.x MOBs) |
| 21:06 |
VanessaE_ |
oh, and the dungeon master looks NOTHING like pedobear :P |
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who_wants_some |
well, hold on |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE_ |
http://i.imgur.com/SqcUv.png |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE_ |
dungeon masters from 0.3.x |
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who_wants_some |
VanessaE_, don't ask me who made that pic, https://i.imgur.com/prQ9MBj.jpg |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE_ |
pedobear: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Pedobear.png |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE_ |
definitely not the same :P |
| 21:08 |
who_wants_some |
well... some similarities are colour and black eyes |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE_ |
in that case my wall resembles paper, being white and mostly smooth :) |
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who_wants_some |
VanessaE_, also, they spawned catastrophically and caused lots of ruins everywhere |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE_ |
yup, that much is true |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE_ |
Calinou: doesn't carbone_mobs have its own version of the same? |
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who_wants_some |
i think yes |
| 21:09 |
Calinou |
it has dungeon masters, yes |
| 21:11 |
who_wants_some |
Calinou, you joined minetest forum 1 day after me, that is funny |
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who_wants_some |
1 day late |
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rubenwardy |
I always think minetest.register_globalstep should be minetest.register_on_global_step |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE_ |
rubenwardy: indeed so. |
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rubenwardy |
also, player:getpos() throws me |
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who_wants_some |
Calinou, you and me are old school players MT now, imagine! |
| 21:15 |
rubenwardy |
I joined 10 months after Calinou :( |
| 21:16 |
rubenwardy |
What's the best way to make a temporary impregnable barrier? I want to separate two teams in CTF by a red barrier before the match. |
| 21:16 |
rubenwardy |
Would a physical entity work? |
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who_wants_some |
from earliest 30 registered users on forum only 4 are active |
| 21:17 |
who_wants_some |
rubenwardy, bedrock? %) |
| 21:17 |
rubenwardy |
That's a node |
| 21:17 |
rubenwardy |
it would work, but it needs to disappear quickly |
| 21:17 |
rubenwardy |
I currently have an glass barrier around the map, but it needs to disappear |
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who_wants_some |
active oldest joiners from oldest 30 are: celeron55, cisoun, metouto, cHyper |
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Testman_ |
#LOTT |
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exio4 |
\o/ |
| 21:26 |
exio4 |
hihi |
| 21:27 |
exio4 |
who is who_wants_some |
| 21:27 |
exio4 |
that nick sounds familiar |
| 21:27 |
exio4 |
who_wants_some: who are you |
| 21:27 |
who_wants_some |
Fixer |
| 21:28 |
exio4 |
ok |
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Krock |
Free magic numbers! http://www.quinapalus.com/cgi-bin/qat?pat=[abcdefoist][abcdefoist][abcdefoist][abcdefoist][abcdefoist]&ent=Search&dict=5 |
| 21:35 |
brothersome |
How can I make the old sugar? I wanna make candyblocks |
| 21:37 |
VanessaE_ |
what "old" sugar? |
| 21:37 |
VanessaE_ |
there are a couple of mods that add sugar by way of crafting it from papyrus |
| 21:37 |
VanessaE_ |
but nothing like that was ever default afaik |
| 21:38 |
brothersome |
Sugar that looks rounded at the bottom to make a sugarblock |
| 21:38 |
brothersome |
It tells that there are 3 kinds of sugar, 2 kinds can be crafted and 1 through mixing |
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VanessaE_ |
no idea |
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brothersome |
I need the one with mixing - probably it is an error in the mod |
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rubenwardy |
How can I make a transparent class? |
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rubenwardy |
*glass |
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brothersome |
How can I choose for mixing or crafting? |
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VanessaE_ |
brothersome: find the mod that supplied the sugar you need. |
| 21:41 |
brothersome |
VanessaE_, I ask Out`Of`Control now - he refurbished the server |
| 21:42 |
brothersome |
If I know how to mix instead of craft, then I have a probably solution |
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VanessaE_ |
there IS no "mix"/ |
| 21:42 |
VanessaE_ |
this is not minecraft. |
| 21:43 |
VanessaE_ |
if you can't craft it, then it has to be done with some machine. |
| 21:43 |
brothersome |
GUI says mixing |
| 21:43 |
VanessaE_ |
in vanilla minetest there is only crafting and cooking. |
| 21:43 |
VanessaE_ |
there is no "mixing". |
| 21:43 |
brothersome |
I was looking for that machine, still none found |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE_ |
technic adds a number of machines, but I don't think any of them do "mixing" as such |
| 21:44 |
Calinou |
someone should do this for Minetest: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/60299-reinchards-high-resolution-textures-and-sprites-demo-available/ |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE_ |
(the closest I can think of is the alloy machine_ |
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exio4 |
C++11 is fun |
| 21:45 |
Krock |
Using `auto` everywhere and not knowing what type it actually is |
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exio4 |
Krock: ? |
| 21:46 |
exio4 |
Krock: it's more than just that |
| 21:46 |
Krock |
Oh? |
| 21:46 |
Krock |
I thought it would be something like the "var" keyword in JS/.NET |
| 21:46 |
exio4 |
you get std::unique_ptr, std::thread, etc |
| 21:47 |
exio4 |
I mean, C++11 |
| 21:47 |
Krock |
oh, yes. There are many new things |
| 21:47 |
exio4 |
Krock: also, var keyword in JS? nothing like that, considering JS doesn't even have a static type system |
| 21:47 |
exio4 |
type inference isn't that rare and bad as you make it sound :P |
| 21:48 |
exio4 |
and, most of the time, auto helps because you don't need to write 40-char long types everywhere but just enough |
| 21:48 |
Krock |
typedef unsigned int u32; |
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Krock |
^^ |
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exio4 |
auto ptr = Constructor(); |
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exio4 |
} else if (auto x_ = dynamic_cast<Player*>(x)) { |
| 21:49 |
exio4 |
vs |
| 21:49 |
exio4 |
} else if (Player* x_ = dynamic_cast<Player*>(x)) { |
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Krock |
oh, I see |
| 21:50 |
exio4 |
(I am using auto more on return types of polymorphic things, but that's C++14 :p) |
| 21:50 |
exio4 |
still, type inference is not a bad thing |
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rubenwardy |
Krock, typedef unsigned int u32 isn't good |
| 21:53 |
rubenwardy |
use typedef uint32_t u32 |
| 21:53 |
exio4 |
anywaylol |
| 21:53 |
exio4 |
>a typedef to a typedef |
| 21:53 |
rubenwardy |
int varies |
| 21:53 |
exio4 |
gg |
| 21:54 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, just used unsigned int, so it appears to be much shorter |
| 21:54 |
rubenwardy |
uint32_t is annoying to type |
| 21:54 |
rubenwardy |
unsigned int isn't always 32 bits |
| 21:54 |
Krock |
ik |
| 21:54 |
rubenwardy |
then don't call it u32 |
| 21:54 |
rubenwardy |
uint |
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exio4 |
I am using a typedef for template-reasons |
| 21:54 |
exio4 |
I don't find it that annoying |
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rubenwardy |
also, how to make it so you can't build against a certain node? |
| 21:55 |
rubenwardy |
pointable = false means you can reach through it |
| 21:55 |
rubenwardy |
which I don't want |
| 21:55 |
rubenwardy |
ideally don't want |
| 21:56 |
exio4 |
there should be a script that magically creates a working wrapper for a SDL2 C++ game |
| 21:57 |
rubenwardy |
I have a simple class for that |
| 21:57 |
rubenwardy |
irrlicht like |
| 21:58 |
rubenwardy |
with engine->init(), begin scene, end scene, run, etc |
| 21:58 |
rubenwardy |
But I use SFML now |
| 21:58 |
rubenwardy |
I much prefer it |
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exio4 |
a simple class for that? |
| 21:59 |
exio4 |
wut? |
| 22:00 |
rubenwardy |
like IrrlichtDevice |
| 22:00 |
exio4 |
er |
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exio4 |
I am sorry |
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exio4 |
working android wrapper |
| 22:01 |
exio4 |
wasn't clear enough |
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rubenwardy |
oh, okay |
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exio4 |
I missed a word |
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rubenwardy |
def.alpha is weird |
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rubenwardy |
if def.alpha = 0, it uses the texture alpha |
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rubenwardy |
if def.alpha = 255, it uses solid |
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rubenwardy |
between those appears to interpolate |
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rubenwardy |
and when the texture is solid, it's not transparent even with def.alpha = 0 |
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Krock |
Some flood their bath, others the excess. |
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who_wants_some |
8% of forumers from 2011 were still active in 2015 |
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brothersome |
How to make mtfoods:sugar? When there is also bushes:sugar and food:sugar - How can I mix? |
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who_wants_some |
3% of forumers from 2011 were active in Nov 2015 |
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who_wants_some |
10 people from 363 registered |
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who_wants_some |
in that year |
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lordcirth |
Trying to compile 0.4.13, when I run cmake I get "minetest: symbol lookup error: minetest: undefined symbol: _ZNK7leveldb6Status8ToStringB5cxx11Ev" |
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lordcirth |
I found a reference to this in IRC logs but they didn't say how they fixed it |
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lordcirth |
*correction, that's when trying to run Fedora 23's 0.4.13 package on my Fedora 22, because cmake has a different error |
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DFeniks_ |
<rubenwardy> What's the best way to make a temporary impregnable barrier? I want to separate two teams in CTF by a red barrier before the match. <-- maybe some node that swaps under circumstances and become walkable or not walkable? |
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DFeniks_ |
like illithin in lott that swaps at night. or maybe something mesecon activated |
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STHGOM |
indestructable ghoststone? |
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DFeniks_ |
i do not say its best method , i just saw it , thought maybe my ideas might be helpful |
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STHGOM |
probably not the best way, though |
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STHGOM |
yea |
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jemadux |
is minetest heavy or light ? |
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who_wants_some |
medium |
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jemadux |
cuz i am with and intel r and i feel it's heavy |
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STHGOM |
did you turn down some settings? |
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