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rubenwardy |
does colorise not actually work? default_chest_top.png^[colorise:#ff0000:0 does nothing |
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LazyJ |
Colorise also "burns" normalmaps. |
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LazyJ |
The colorised nodes appear blackened except for the center-most node in player's field of view. |
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Fixer |
we need more anticheats |
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Fixer |
another ***k is flying on just test and griefing from time to time |
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rubenwardy |
I'd pay for an anti-cheat which stops flying, and would be suitable for CTF |
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rubenwardy |
maybe £10-15 |
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rubenwardy |
meh |
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rubenwardy |
Nevermind, it would be too hard to verify for me |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Dungeongen: Fix rarely triggered segfault 57b4295 http://git.io/vBF8Q (2015-12-01T00:36:38Z) |
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[git] jayarndt -> minetest/minetest: Remove unused OpenALSoundManager::m_can_vorbis and EXT_vorbis check 6fead28 http://git.io/vBF87 (2015-12-01T00:36:11Z) |
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rubenwardy |
What's the minimum number of nodes I can edit before it's better to use LVM? |
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rubenwardy |
I want to check a 3x4x4 area for trees, place a 4x4x1 layer of nodes, and place a single node. All in a volume of 4x4x4. |
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Fixer |
what is lvm? |
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rubenwardy |
Lua Voxel Manipulator |
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rubenwardy |
it's a fast way of reading and setting nodes in Lua |
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rubenwardy |
it's way faster than minetest.set_node at big areas |
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Fixer |
oh ok |
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rubenwardy |
can you see my mistake? minetest.set_node(pos, {node="air"}) |
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Fixer |
no I can't |
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Fixer |
i've read very little on programming right now |
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rubenwardy |
it's "node", should be "name" |
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rubenwardy |
looking for moderators: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=200330#p200330 |
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sofar |
boom |
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sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=13677 |
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* sofar |
goes to bed, will read discussion later |
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caustic |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Giving Tuesday, and happy Bifocals at the Monitor Liberation Day! 😃 |
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caustic |
back at 'cha |
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https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/12679496/11492216/d07bfd52-979e-11e5-9593-9d801abbc98f.png |
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Fixer |
o.O |
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sfan5 |
ಠ_ಠ|
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rubenwardy |
Client versions connecting to my server, 247 sample size: http://pasteboard.co/2y89t18t.png |
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rubenwardy |
Invalid ver is forks and illegal clients with weird version number |
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rubenwardy |
these are the platforms connecting to my server: http://pasteboard.co/2y8MHcXc.png |
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rubenwardy |
oops |
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rubenwardy |
Forget to include "arm" in mobile devices |
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rubenwardy |
corrected: http://pasteboard.co/2y9caEZx.png |
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rubenwardy |
That's depressing |
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est31 |
oh |
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est31 |
yea |
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rubenwardy |
29 illegal apple clients. 35 Windows clients |
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est31 |
well, at least we got a 100% boost in users thanks to all the unofficial packages on the app stores |
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rubenwardy |
yeah |
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rubenwardy |
separated apple into iOS and OSX: https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/671711060093743104 |
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Fixer |
hmm |
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VanessaE |
rubenwardy: that IS depressing :-/ |
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CWz |
VanessaE, you said it |
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CWz |
How did rubenwardy get that info though |
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VanessaE |
I would assume scraping the debug logs in the most verbose mode, and web access logs (for media server)? |
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Teckla |
VanessaE: What's depressing? The # of "illegal" and Windows clients? |
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VanessaE |
to me yeah |
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VanessaE |
not sure which part ruben considers depressing |
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CWz |
Probbaly that most of the players are tableteers who the vast majority of them are crybabies who really make server harder to enjoy |
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Ingar |
like in any other game |
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Ingar |
(- the tableteers) |
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VanessaE |
I wouldn't say the majority are |
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VanessaE |
rather there is a loud contingent of crybabies among them |
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CWz |
Vast Majority of them I find annoying. as they lay parkours all over the world |
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sofar |
allow mods to ban certain clients? |
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sofar |
that gives server ops the opportunity to cater to certain player types |
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Ingar |
stop playing on public servers |
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VanessaE |
sofar: there is an unreasonable resistance to exposing client ID + version to mods :-/ |
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sofar |
VanessaE: and that's why this mess exists |
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sofar |
tbh I get that |
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sofar |
you can't make reasonable decisions without data |
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sofar |
so withholding the data is a way to avoid it |
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sofar |
creating a player environment that builds communities is hard. You may have to make sacrifices. All MMO's do this. |
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Teckla |
I think a lot of kids use tablets, either because they don't have a PC, or installing Minetest on the PC is too hard for them. |
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sofar |
afk, meeting |
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Fixer |
apple is just anal (no need to worry), what is actually depressing is it is mostly android with something in reminder, so android support is important |
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Krock |
Hello everybody |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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Fixer |
hi |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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Luizrpgluiz |
hi :) |
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Calinou |
Warsow 2.0 released, with most assets under CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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hoodedice |
dot |
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hoodedice |
I'll beat Calinou to the hi. Hi Calinou |
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Calinou |
hi |
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Krock |
Beaten, it seems. |
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iheartkode |
hello! |
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iheartkode |
Just discovered minetest |
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hoodedice |
how's it? |
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iheartkode |
What mods do i need to join a server? This is pretty confusing |
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Krock |
congratulations |
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iheartkode |
I have not played lol |
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Calinou |
iheartkode, short answer: none. |
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Krock |
Tab: "Client" |
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Calinou |
mod content is downloaded when you join a server |
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iheartkode |
none ok easier |
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Krock |
Checkbox: "View public server list" |
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Calinou |
so you don't need to install mods on your client to play multiplayer games |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
(mods installed on your client affect only singleplayer games, or servers you host yourself) |
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iheartkode |
I click that view public server list and it crashes |
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est31 |
oh, that's bad to hear |
| 18:43 |
iheartkode |
Thanks for the info |
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iheartkode |
It's a lua error maybe I should re install |
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iheartkode |
I installed it via apt-get |
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est31 |
iheartkode, which minetest version, which OS? |
| 18:44 |
iheartkode |
Xubuntu 14.04 |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
iheartkode, build from source |
| 18:44 |
iheartkode |
which ever version is in the repo apt-get install minetest |
| 18:44 |
est31 |
via the ppa, or the xubuntu repos? |
| 18:44 |
iheartkode |
yep |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
it's outdated :) |
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iheartkode |
oh man lol |
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behalebabo |
The daily build PPA seems to work well |
| 18:44 |
est31 |
either way it should work |
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Krock |
lol "X or Y?" "yep" |
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iheartkode |
removing it now lol |
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Calinou |
try https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3837 |
| 18:45 |
est31 |
Calinou, iheartkode wont be the only one from 14.04 |
| 18:45 |
iheartkode |
it worked accept when you click servers |
| 18:45 |
est31 |
its bad to have buggy version of minetest in official repos |
| 18:45 |
est31 |
better get behind that bug |
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iheartkode |
thanks |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
you just have to paste the whole command in a terminal, and confirm with the sudo password |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
(use non-portable if you don't know which one to use) |
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iheartkode |
brb i will try it out |
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est31 |
trusty has 0.4.9+repack-4ubuntu1 |
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est31 |
quite old ... |
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iheartkode |
i won't use portable |
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iheartkode |
installing from that script :) |
| 18:47 |
iheartkode |
I have played MC for years, but it gets super boring. |
| 18:48 |
Calinou |
I am a Minecraft convert too. |
| 18:48 |
Calinou |
I started playing Minecraft ~5 years ago |
| 18:48 |
Calinou |
but I stopped 1.5 years ago |
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iheartkode |
Same |
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iheartkode |
I stopped about 3 months back |
| 18:48 |
Calinou |
I thought it was the game of the decade (really) |
| 18:48 |
iheartkode |
lol |
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iheartkode |
for kids |
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Calinou |
but in the end, it looks like its sales are dropping already |
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Krock |
I think they thought the same with super mario |
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iheartkode |
right |
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iheartkode |
installed via script now I run minetest in terminal and says no command found |
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iheartkode |
cmake error |
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Obani |
I started playing Minecraft 4 years ago |
| 18:51 |
iheartkode |
CMake Error: The source directory "/home/mark" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.CMake Error: The source directory "/home/mark" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt. |
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Obani |
I stopped playing Minecraft 4 years ago |
| 18:51 |
iheartkode |
maybe i should just play on windows lol |
| 18:51 |
est31 |
you can try the ppa |
| 18:51 |
behalebabo |
This ppa contains daily builds of the latest Minetest: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds |
| 18:51 |
Teckla |
Minecraft is a great game |
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iheartkode |
i did it's outdated |
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iheartkode |
ok |
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est31 |
don't install mientestc55 |
| 18:52 |
est31 |
but minetest |
| 18:52 |
est31 |
this is the stable repo if you dont want the bleeding edge: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable |
| 18:53 |
iheartkode |
i just want to play lol |
| 18:53 |
iheartkode |
i will try this deb |
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iheartkode |
ok connecting to a server wish me luick :P |
| 18:56 |
iheartkode |
just for future reference the sudo apt-get install minitest does not work (fails to list servers) |
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* Teckla |
has never had installation or runtime problems with Minetest for Windows |
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jemadux |
how to press a button on mt ? |
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Calinou |
jemadux, it can be left or right-click |
| 19:55 |
Calinou |
depends on mods… there is no standard |
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jemadux |
in megaf server |
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jemadux |
sorry |
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jemadux |
bluelobster server |
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Glorfindel |
hey all |
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Glorfindel |
I am thinking about hosting a server over a vps, and was wondering there was a way to create a world via cli on the vps or if I would have to create one and upload it first |
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Glorfindel |
it's a linux virtual machine, if that changes anything |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
Glorfindel, starting a new server will automatically create a world called "world" |
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Glorfindel |
oh it does? Is this a recent thing, because I don't remember it doing that... |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
it always did that, even in 0.3.x |
| 20:30 |
Calinou |
Minecraft also did it ;) |
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Glorfindel |
ah |
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Glorfindel |
heh, now that you mention it, there is a world called "world" lol |
| 20:31 |
Glorfindel |
ty :) |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13680&p=200407#p200400 |
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Calinou |
idspispopd |
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sofar |
Calinou: time to change your password? |
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Glorfindel |
lol |
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Glorfindel |
next question, how low could I go with system specs? Assuming 4-5 players max, would 512mb ram be enough? |
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est31 |
depends on mods I guess |
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est31 |
but they should be for a lightly modded instance |
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Obani |
Glorfindel, is it for a private server ? |
| 20:55 |
Glorfindel |
est31: ok, ty |
| 20:55 |
Glorfindel |
Obani: I'll probably make it public, but not on with those specs |
| 20:55 |
Obani |
ok |
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Calinou |
Glorfindel, my VPS runs on 1 GB RAM |
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Calinou |
(Hunger Games server) |
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Calinou |
it can handle 15-20 players fine |
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Calinou |
(runs on Debian 8 64-bit) |
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asl97 |
Glorfindel: you might want to add a swap just in case if it doesn't have one yet |
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Obani |
Calinou, Hungry games doesn't have many mods ;) |
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Glorfindel |
Calinou: ok, that should be fine then |
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Calinou |
I use dedicated_server_step = 0.05 |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
for smoother player/mob movement (as shown to other players) |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
it costs more CPU and bandwidth |
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Glorfindel |
Obani: the only mods I'd add is mobs redo and TenPlus1's mod for the different biomes (forget the name) |
| 20:59 |
Glorfindel |
Calinou: I saw a post you made on the forum about that, is it really that much smoother? |
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thePalindrome |
I wouldn't use systemd on a server |
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Glorfindel |
thePalindrome: shouldn't your username be thePalindromeemordnilaPeht ? |
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thePalindrome |
heheh |
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Glorfindel |
what's wrong with systemd? |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
systemd is love, systemd is life |
| 21:10 |
thePalindrome |
It chews up ram like none other, fails catastrophicly (couldn't reboot because systemd biffed it because of a d-bus issues) |
| 21:10 |
thePalindrome |
Also, you have to have all systemd or none |
| 21:11 |
thePalindrome |
Anyway, brb |
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Glorfindel |
lol |
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Glorfindel |
I'll pop the popcorn ;) |
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rubenwardy |
Calinou, are you on my ctf server? |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
:p |
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Calinou |
how do you get guns and steel swords? |
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Calinou |
maybe players should have a weak gun on spawn |
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Calinou |
what about armor? |
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Glorfindel |
wow a server with gunz :D |
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asl97 |
Calinou: iirc, no armor, guns and swords from chest |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, I love how you used the trumpet sound that all games use |
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Calinou |
including OpenClonk and some brony fangame called Pony Joust |
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Calinou |
you should add wieldview too |
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thePalindrome: blame me, I've committed code to systemd |
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rubenwardy |
Calinou, yeah, I'm planning on armour |
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rubenwardy |
and yeah, that sound is used by KAG too |
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rubenwardy |
which is my inspiration |
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rubenwardy |
but I found the sound on some libre website |
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rubenwardy |
lol, Calinou got hated |
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rubenwardy |
is "sexygirl" a good enough nick? |
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alket |
yep |
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rubenwardy |
hmmm |
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alket |
sexy isn't offensive word |
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alket |
its acceptable |
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VanessaE |
alket: that depends on your audience. |
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kaeza |
ultimately depends on you. ^that |
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VanessaE |
it would be entirely unacceptable if used among a bunch of 10 year olds :P |
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alket |
VanessaE: they use it in TV during day time xD |
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rubenwardy |
most of my audience are 8-12 y.o on android phones |
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alket |
rubenwardy: whats your server ? |
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rubenwardy |
!server Capture the Flag |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Capture the Flag (Guns!) | minetest.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 14/20, 14/19 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 1ms |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
also, VanessaE: https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/671711060093743104 |
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VanessaE |
I saw |
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VanessaE |
[12-01 11:35] <VanessaE> rubenwardy: that IS depressing :-/ |
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rubenwardy |
oh |
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VanessaE |
stop signing off all the time :) |
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rubenwardy |
I may have left to do an essay at that point |
| 22:47 |
VanessaE |
just do what I do, leave your PC on :P |
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rubenwardy |
I close IRC whilst I'm doing my essay |
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VanessaE |
yeah sure. excuses, excuses :D |
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rubenwardy |
I also hide my bookmarks bar to stop myself seeing "Minetest Forums" |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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rubenwardy |
does anyone know how I can configure a mapgen to make a map from -160 to 160 as a valley? |
| 22:49 |
rubenwardy |
or should I just guess seeds randomly |
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rubenwardy |
also, are there any stats on the speed of v6 vs v7 |
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VanessaE |
no clue on settings, but it's generally agreed that v6 is faster |
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VanessaE |
(v7 is more than fast enough though) |
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rubenwardy |
how much so? |
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VanessaE |
I'm not sure - I've not measured it |
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rubenwardy |
ok. My server uses sqlite_synchronous = 0, which is why it's so fast |
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VanessaE |
but it's noticable |
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rubenwardy |
I don't care if the map is corrupted, as it's reset so often |
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rubenwardy |
there's some weird new v6 biome with boney things |
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rubenwardy |
like, it crunches when you walk on them |
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VanessaE |
boney? |
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rubenwardy |
like bones |
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rubenwardy |
makes a crunching sound |
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rubenwardy |
oh, gravel |
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rubenwardy |
gravel has a new sound |
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thePalindrome |
yar har |
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