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[git] MT-Modder -> minetest/minetest_game: Allow non-players to dig steel doors. 29252c6 https://git.io/v2SJY (2016-03-03T00:37:01Z) |
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[git] MT-Modder -> minetest/minetest_game: Allow non-players to dig locked chests. ac843f8 https://git.io/v2SJO (2016-03-03T00:37:01Z) |
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[git] MT-Modder -> minetest/minetest_game: Allow non-players to dig bones. 0410b5e https://git.io/v2SJ3 (2016-03-03T00:37:01Z) |
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[git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest_game: Document `share_bones_time_early` 3a98245 https://git.io/v2SJs (2016-03-03T00:36:53Z) |
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[git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Add support for non-ASCII characters to chat console 8b006a1 https://git.io/v2S0S (2016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) |
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[git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Add Android chat form 9dd38cf https://git.io/v2S09 (2016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) |
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[git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Add text selection and copying to console 430929e https://git.io/v2S0H (2016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) |
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[git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Unlock cursor when opening console 3edb757 https://git.io/v2S0Q (2016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) |
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[git] EXio4 -> minetest/minetest: Use the console instead of a dedicated window when pressing keymap_chat/cmd effa247 https://git.io/v2S07 (2016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) |
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[git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Remove debug.getupvalue from the Lua sandbox whitelist abd4a79 https://git.io/v2Sa7 (2016-03-03T00:09:05-05:00) |
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Ronsor`: he just started it, I think |
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[git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Fix main menu being unable to set secure settings 7bcbc01 https://git.io/v2SV4 (2016-03-03T00:57:19-05:00) |
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sofar |
is there an option to enable the minimap by default? |
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sofar |
enable_minimap = true derp |
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sofar |
euh, no, doesn't work |
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sofar |
still have to press F9 every time I start the game |
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Megaf |
Hi all, is there any way to create natural light in caves? |
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Megaf |
sometimes we see sun light inside caves, but that's only a glitch |
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Megaf |
nobody? |
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kaeza |
o/ |
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Megaf |
Hi kaeza |
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Megaf |
kaeza, any idea on how to generate that natural light glicht in caves? |
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kaeza |
natural light glitch? |
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STHGOM |
is there something like this: "minetest.on_punch(puncher, punched, hp)" ? |
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Obani |
Megaf, if you have roof in another chunk |
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Obani |
Or really far away |
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Obani |
You can still try /mafix |
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Obani |
/mapfix |
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Obani |
(with the mapfixer mod) |
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kaeza |
woo. merging session, I see |
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kaeza |
!tell Megaf https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgc7snykovkvtdg/fakesun.zip?dl=0 hacky, but WFM |
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kaeza: I'll pass that on when Megaf is around |
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STHGOM |
or is there an "on_hp_change" for players? |
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STHGOM: i think so |
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kaadmy |
look in docs/lua_api.txt |
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Lluri |
Hello people |
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Lluri |
Got troubles with WorldEdit mod |
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Lluri |
As soon as the GUI is activated, I can't get acces to the nodes list |
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Lluri |
I mean I still can pick items from the list to put in the crafting tool, or in my 8 items list, but I am stucked on page 1 |
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Lluri |
So I've got acces only to this page... |
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kaeza |
Lluri, which Minetest version? also, when did you download World Edit and Unified Inventory? |
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Lluri |
Unified inventory ? |
| 16:56 |
Lluri |
The latest |
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Lluri |
0.4.13 |
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Lluri |
same for the WorldEdit, it's the latest one |
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kaeza |
or, uh... which GUI are you using for WorldEdit? it seems to support Unified Inventory and a couple others |
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kaeza |
I should really get around to compile stable .13 just for tests... |
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Lluri |
well I use the GUI of the game itself, and I've activated the icluded one in the latest version of worldedit |
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Lluri |
So I'm using both |
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Lluri |
But the game's one seems not perfectly working with the worldedit one's activated |
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STHGOM |
how would I make a command that removes all of a certain entity? |
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kaeza |
Lluri, try this one and see if it works: https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/archive/f2f714c19e18ede9b3e201b2a5b6bf9828a5dd8d.zip |
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Lluri |
What is it ? a gui ? |
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Lluri |
That will make 3 GUI ? |
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kaeza |
an older version of WE |
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kaeza |
(not TOO old) |
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kaeza |
there has been some changes recently in the core engine which prompted for changes in WE, which may be breaking stable 0.4.13 |
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Lluri |
someone told me the GUI wasn't up in the version before the one I have |
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Lluri |
Oo |
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Lluri |
I'll try this and tell you |
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kaeza |
:( |
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twoelk |
kaeza: are you still working on the wiki mod? |
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kaeza |
twoelk, yes and no. don't touch the thing because it works, but I'm open to suggestions |
| 17:18 |
twoelk |
the version on the LOTT server has recently had a close button added, which I find convenient |
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twoelk |
have been playing with borders and colors myself recently |
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kaeza |
twoelk, the GUI needs a bit of love, yes :P |
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kaeza |
may I have a screenshot of your work? |
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* twoelk |
runs and hides |
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kaeza |
:( |
| 17:27 |
twoelk |
actually there is a version in use on the Isarnho server at 84.181.193.251 |
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twoelk |
no colors but some button piles under index |
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running the roman map there at the moment and trying to make a screenshot |
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twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=202921#p202921 the wiki as on Lord-Of-The-Test server |
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twoelk |
http://i.imgur.com/GXQ1qJ1.png wiki with button piles |
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hrmpf -- server keeps timing out for the public server list |
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STHGOM |
how would i use "minetest.get_node_level(pos)" to get crumbly? |
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STHGOM |
if minetest.get_node_level(pos) == "crumbly" then ... |
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kaeza |
<twoelk> http://i.imgur.com/GXQ1qJ1.png [...] <-- this looks too cramped |
| 17:57 |
kaeza |
hmm... maybe the buttons can be arranged vertically along the side |
| 17:59 |
kaeza |
STHGOM, that's like asking "how do I use a chainsaw to tighten a screw" |
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kaeza |
don't ask "how do I use $TOOL to do $TASK"; ask "how do I do $TASK" |
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STHGOM |
ok |
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STHGOM |
lol, how *do* i use a chainsaw to tighten a screw? |
| 18:01 |
STHGOM |
I originally was looking at http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_node_group, but it says it depreciated |
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* kaeza |
sighs |
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STHGOM |
ok, how do I get a nodes crumblyness? |
| 18:03 |
STHGOM |
sorry |
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Krock |
kaeza, you seem to be an extreme capitalist. |
| 18:05 |
kaeza |
you need the name, and check `minetest.registered_nodes[name].groups` if `crumbly is defined and larger than 0` |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
Krock, I worked with PHP this morning… :/ |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
Calinou, another capitalist detected! |
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kaeza |
Krock, O.o |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
kaeza, "how do I use $TOOL to do $TASK"; ask "how do I do $TASK" |
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Krock |
$.$ |
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STHGOM |
ok, got it, ty |
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kaeza |
oh, sorry. %TASK% |
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kaeza |
<_< |
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sfan5 |
!server players:most |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: [FR] Minetest France Survie / PvP | minetest-france.fr:30001 | Clients: 27/60, 7/27 | Version: 0.4.13 / minetest | Ping: 89ms |
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kaeza |
Krock, at least, getting the name of a script is free |
| 18:08 |
kaeza |
$0 |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
^^ |
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twoelk |
kaeza: http://imgur.com/VXc7VJI the welcome mod has buttons on the side but I'm not sure that fits the wiki mod |
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kaeza |
twoelk, I was thinking putting them on the right side, with the "Save" and "Close" buttons at top or bottom, and smaller buttons |
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kaeza |
or bigger formspec |
| 18:45 |
kaeza |
currently testing this layout |
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twoelk |
I'm not sure how usable a bigger formspec might be on a mobile device |
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kaeza |
good point. hadn't tought about mobile :/ |
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kaeza |
I don't think it should make too much of a difference anyway |
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Hijiri |
kaeza: STHGOM: get_item_group isn't deprecated |
| 19:33 |
Hijiri |
get_node_group is deprecated in favor of get_item_group |
| 19:33 |
Hijiri |
get_item_group will do the nil checking for you and give 0 in that case |
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STHGOM |
ah, ok |
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Ronsor` |
i will no longer run a minetest server, i removed the public server list and still got greifers |
| 20:17 |
Hijiri |
you can add default password |
| 20:17 |
Hijiri |
or a whitelist |
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Ronsor` |
wait, a default password? |
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Ronsor` |
i never saw that! |
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Ronsor` |
oh there it is |
| 20:19 |
Ronsor` |
what? i've never seen that before |
| 20:19 |
sfan5 |
!server players:most |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Extreme Survival Minetest City | 23.28.76.50 | Clients: 21/33, 13/30 | Version: 0.4.13 / extreme_survival | Ping: 135ms |
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Ronsor` |
now to monkeypatch users.txt |
| 20:23 |
Hijiri |
!server players:least |
| 20:23 |
MinetestBot |
Hijiri: Yggdrasil [linuxiuvat.de] | linuxiuvat.de | Clients: 0/20, 1/7 | Version: 0.4.13 / minetest | Ping: 12ms |
| 20:23 |
Hijiri |
!server Magical |
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MinetestBot |
Hijiri: No results |
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Hijiri |
rip |
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kaeza |
http://i.imgur.com/3dx5oVe.jpg |
| 20:31 |
kaeza |
formspec coordinate system is fucked up. badly |
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Hijiri |
I had this problem and kaadmy showed me why it happens |
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Hijiri |
apparently images are scaled differently for some reason |
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Hijiri |
oh |
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Hijiri |
actually I don't know for buttosn and textareas |
| 20:38 |
Hijiri |
but maybe there is something similar, where some elements get padded/scaled differently |
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kaeza |
the origin is also inconsistent. for buttons, 0 means "a little bit of margin", but for textarea, 0 means pixel-aligned to the border |
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kaeza |
textarea/field are aligned to the specified coordinates, regardless of whether they have labels or not |
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kaeza |
which means you need to give it a little more space to account for the label |
| 20:43 |
kaeza |
actually, it's better to ignore label, I think |
| 20:48 |
kaeza |
I'm looking for opinions on the layout though :P |
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kaeza |
compare to old layout: http://i.imgur.com/sslcjYa.jpg |
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boombatower |
can anyone point me to a guide/example config for tuning a mintest server to utilize a server with lots of cpu/network bandwidth? io/cpu/net all seem to be relatively idle yet chunks are rather sluggish to load many times....even when on the same network as server |
| 21:03 |
Calinou |
boombatower, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825 |
| 21:03 |
Calinou |
you can use this: |
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Calinou |
dedicated_server_step = 0.05 |
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Calinou |
max_simultaneous_block_sends_server_total = 10000 |
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Calinou |
max_simultaneous_block_sends_per_client = 20 |
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boombatower |
Calinou: thanks, will do |
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sofar |
boombatower: also, apply this patch https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3805 |
| 21:05 |
sofar |
boombatower: and set lbm_interval and abm_interval to 0.2 |
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sofar |
(and let me know if that helps as well) |
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boombatower |
sofar: alright, thanks |
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[git] Jeija -> minetest/minetest: Require minetest.request_http_api to be called from the mod's main scope 1100a5d https://git.io/v2Q1g (2016-03-03T22:42:00+01:00) |
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LazyJ |
Has there been a change to forum.mientest.net that blocks images from dropbox? |
| 21:53 |
Calinou |
check your browser's console |
| 21:53 |
Calinou |
I don't think we do anything specific on image URLs |
| 21:54 |
LazyJ |
What am I to check for? |
| 21:54 |
Calinou |
check in the Network tab of the console |
| 21:54 |
Calinou |
or just the JavaScript console, which also logs network errors sometimes |
| 21:55 |
LazyJ |
My browser isn't blocking anything from the forums. |
| 21:55 |
LazyJ |
What ever changed was within the last 12hrs. |
| 21:55 |
Calinou |
note that Dropbox performs rate limiting if traffic becomes too high |
| 21:56 |
Calinou |
in the meantime, try another host like https://lut.im/ :p |
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LazyJ |
Problem isolated to my web browser, Firefox. Google Chrome displays the page with the screenshots. Now to try to figure out why FF is having such consternation. :/ |
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Hijiri |
I have been using pomf.is for forum images |
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LazyJ |
I use imgur.com for most screenshots and it has worked well for me for years. But, the overview maps that I update weekly/bi-weekly on forum thread's top post is where dropbox's handling of file paths and names works out better. |
| 22:26 |
rubenwardy |
are you allowed to apply additional terms to GPL? https://github.com/graememcc/micropolisJS/blob/master/LICENSE |
| 22:27 |
rubenwardy |
nevermind |
| 22:27 |
LazyJ |
With Dropbox, I upload the overview maps to the same folder and then merely change the date on the dated filename in the forum post to update the post. |
| 22:27 |
LazyJ |
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| 22:29 |
LazyJ |
So updating overview map "main_section_2016_03_01.png" is a simple "replace all" of 2016_03_01 with 2016_03_08. |
| 22:30 |
LazyJ |
Since all the overview maps use a date at the end of the file name, all the overview maps are updated with the "replace" function. |
| 22:30 |
LazyJ |
So that is why I use Dropbox, in this particular use case, instead of other image hosting services. |
| 22:31 |
LazyJ |
Ok, sermon's done. |
| 22:31 |
LazyJ |
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Niebieski |
Hey guys, is there any news about Realbad ? |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
have not heared anything |
| 23:05 |
Fixer |
what time is it? it is compile time! 1100a5d + PR3775-3810-3811 |
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rubenwardy |
LazyJ, have you made sure you've hard linked using ?dl=1 |
| 23:25 |
rubenwardy |
lol, lincity-ng crashed first time |
| 23:26 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, since when?? |
| 23:26 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 23:27 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, how long you play it? |
| 23:28 |
rubenwardy |
err, zero minutes so far...? |
| 23:28 |
rubenwardy |
It crashed as I clicked "start game" |
| 23:29 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, ah |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
i'm playing CDDA mainly |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
it is damn good asci game |
| 23:30 |
rubenwardy |
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead? |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
yes |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
zombie apocalypse |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
it has literally everything |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
you can dig, build bases and vehicles |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
craft thing |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
learn from books |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
it is so complex |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
1000 of options |
| 23:32 |
Fixer |
highly recommend it for people who play dwarf fortress and stuff like that |
| 23:33 |
Fixer |
experiment brunch maybe somewhat unstable right now |
| 23:34 |
Hijiri |
I'm downloading it right nwo |
| 23:35 |
Fixer |
it uses graphics tile by default iirc, asci is way more cooler |
| 23:35 |
Hijiri |
it is not in debian repo despite popularity and its license fitting DFSG |
| 23:35 |
rubenwardy |
just reading the FAQ is interesting |
| 23:35 |
Niebieski |
I played it a couple time. |
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| 23:36 |
Fixer |
it has 40 000 commits |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
intense development |
| 23:37 |
Hijiri |
Is it playable mostly blind? Or will I have to consult out-of-game documentation to play properly |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
sometimes |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
it has immense scope |
| 23:37 |
Hijiri |
I'll probably start looking up stuff eventually regardless |
| 23:38 |
Fixer |
it is very complex |
| 23:38 |
Fixer |
i'm playing exp build few month old |
| 23:38 |
Fixer |
if you download 0.C, it is very old |
| 23:38 |
Fixer |
release was in 2015 iirc |
| 23:38 |
Hijiri |
I am cloning git |
| 23:39 |
rubenwardy |
is there a way of getting less abstract graphics? |
| 23:39 |
LazyJ |
rubenwardy - DropBox/forum screenshots: I found the problem; AdBlock was blocking content from forum.minetest.net. idk why AdBlock did it today because I've used AdBlock for years. Heh. Maybe AdBlock wants some ransom money from Minetest. :p |
| 23:39 |
LazyJ |
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| 23:42 |
Niebieski |
but the game is hard. |
| 23:42 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, there are asci and tiles available |
| 23:42 |
Niebieski |
It reminds me of Project Zomboid. |
| 23:42 |
Fixer |
use asci |
| 23:43 |
Fixer |
tiles suck |
| 23:43 |
rubenwardy |
cool http://i.imgur.com/cM4fh57.png |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
tiles suck |
| 23:45 |
rubenwardy |
in your opinion |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
danger, this game is very addictive |
| 23:46 |
rubenwardy |
Not foss, but I've enjoyed this game recently: http://rimworldgame.com/ |
| 23:47 |
Fixer |
for cdda people this is like heaven |
| 23:47 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/hOOQFoi.png |
| 23:49 |
rubenwardy |
no idea what that is |
| 23:50 |
rubenwardy |
what are <> F v |
| 23:50 |
rubenwardy |
S |
| 23:50 |
Hijiri |
> sudo apt install libsdl2-ttf-dev |
| 23:50 |
Hijiri |
> 531 packages to remove |
| 23:50 |
Hijiri |
rip |
| 23:50 |
Hijiri |
no tiles for me |
| 23:50 |
Hijiri |
which is ok |
| 23:50 |
Hijiri |
but sounds require tiles apparentlyu |
| 23:50 |
Fixer |
hehe |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, keys? |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, ah |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, on map? < > is houses |
| 23:51 |
Hijiri |
now I'm sitting in class with laptop making noise at 100% cpu |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, F - fire station |
| 23:51 |
rubenwardy |
that's a lot of fire stations |
| 23:51 |
rubenwardy |
so that's an overview map? |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
yes |
| 23:51 |
rubenwardy |
is that a settlement? |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
city |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
so huge |
| 23:52 |
rubenwardy |
made by players? |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
no |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
autogenerated |
| 23:52 |
rubenwardy |
ok |
| 23:52 |
Hijiri |
94% |
| 23:52 |
Hijiri |
nearly done |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
this game will be probably to hard for you |
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| 23:53 |
rubenwardy |
sounds like a challenge |
| 23:53 |
rubenwardy |
can you play it multiplayer? |
| 23:53 |
rubenwardy |
do you build settlements? |
| 23:54 |
Fixer |
Hijiri, tiles can be disabled in graphical one |
| 23:54 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, settlements? you can |
| 23:55 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, it is more survival one, zombies, cars, construction |
| 23:55 |
rubenwardy |
I see |
| 23:56 |
Fixer |
settlements with zombies? o_0 |
