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| 00:45 |
Megaf |
[01:45:46] <-* hmmmm has kicked Megaf from #minetest-dev (Megaf) |
| 00:45 |
Megaf |
well, it took more than four years for that to happen |
| 00:45 |
Megaf |
I think I finally got a dev in bad mood |
| 00:45 |
thePalindrome |
tbh you put him in a bad mood |
| 00:46 |
Megaf |
yeah yeah, and what about all days and weeks I lost trying to fix my server due to stupid minetest bugs |
| 00:46 |
Megaf |
(reported bugs) |
| 00:46 |
thePalindrome |
Did you submit patches? |
| 00:46 |
Megaf |
what about all the servers that closed down and got lost because of bugs |
| 00:46 |
Megaf |
including one of my own |
| 00:47 |
Megaf |
where we lost a whole year of work |
| 00:47 |
Megaf |
dont that put a person in bad mood? |
| 00:47 |
Megaf |
thePalindrome: I can't code, but I do report all bugs I find |
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thePalindrome |
Did you have backups? |
| 00:47 |
Megaf |
that's not the point |
| 00:48 |
Megaf |
the point is, dev time could be spent on the sqlite engine instead of adding leveldb, redis, posgreesql, null |
| 00:48 |
thePalindrome |
I do see the point you're trying to make, but part of the problem lies within sqlite |
| 00:48 |
Megaf |
mapgenv5 could be just fixed (as it recentlely was) instead of wasting time in several other mapgens |
| 00:49 |
Megaf |
truetype support could be worked on instead of bundling a lot of BITMAP fonts doubling the game size |
| 00:49 |
thePalindrome |
the other mapgens are mainly for backwards compatability and making sure it works before pushing it |
| 00:49 |
Megaf |
OpenGL render could be improoved instead of wasting time on Dx8 and Dx9 and Software rendering |
| 00:50 |
* thePalindrome |
doesn't use dx8 or 9 |
| 00:50 |
Megaf |
thePalindrome: and asking nicely don't help, reporting bugs sometimes do. Ranting the way I did attract attention, |
| 00:51 |
Megaf |
well, I've been doing that for 4,5 years in that channel. I think I just got him in a bad day |
| 00:51 |
thePalindrome |
In the same sense shooting people attracts attention to gun control |
| 00:52 |
thePalindrome |
It works in one sense, but not in any other |
| 00:52 |
Megaf |
thePalindrome: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=author%3AMegaf |
| 00:53 |
thePalindrome |
35 issues, with 30 closed. The only remaining ones don't seem to affect too much, except the linking one |
| 00:54 |
Megaf |
just showing that I do try to help... |
| 00:54 |
Megaf |
there's 5 PRs too |
| 00:54 |
Megaf |
and closed issue != fixed issue |
| 00:57 |
thePalindrome |
All of your pull requests seem to have been merged |
| 00:57 |
thePalindrome |
so why not try to merge more of your beloved fork? |
| 01:01 |
thePalindrome |
You'd probably get some pretty good reactions, if you kept the patches small |
| 01:05 |
Megaf |
[01:57:53] <thePalindrome> so why not try to merge more of your beloved fork? |
| 01:06 |
Megaf |
All the work done in my fork was removing code from Minetest, I removed all database support but sqlite and all mapgen support but v6. Also removed some dead code (either legacy code or big parts of commented code) |
| 01:07 |
Megaf |
and some of the things that did bring good performance and gameplay improvements are simple configuration changes, that I suggested and got the changes denied |
| 01:07 |
Megaf |
thePalindrome: ^ |
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Megaf |
aix: can you confirm this please? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1934 |
| 01:16 |
Megaf |
cheapie: you too if you are there |
| 01:16 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 01:16 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: TAB auto complete will no longer work on console. · Issue #1934 · minetest/minetest · GitHub |
| 01:16 |
* cheapie |
checks |
| 01:17 |
Megaf |
basically read my last comment |
| 01:17 |
cheapie |
Doesn't even want to compile for me right now, and I can't really be bothered to fix it. |
| 01:18 |
Megaf |
oh dear |
| 01:18 |
Megaf |
cheapie: but do you have a running server with anyone online? |
| 01:18 |
Megaf |
!server cheapie |
| 01:18 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
| 01:18 |
Megaf |
oh |
| 01:18 |
Megaf |
nevermind then |
| 01:24 |
Megaf |
well, good night everyone |
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* Megaf |
closes Quassel Client |
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DaveyDude |
is OldCoder here? |
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OldCoder |
Yes |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Tuesday and happy Crush a Can Day! 😃 |
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segfault22 |
dollar collapse scheduled for today, supposedly |
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segfault22 |
who thinks its gonna happen? |
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segfault22 |
nah man teh dollar is forevar |
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miner8 |
hi guys, may I know if the blocks in minetest are pre-generated. That is to say, if I enter a seed number, the blocks will always be generated in the exact position when I generate a new map later using the same seed? |
| 11:08 |
thePalindrome |
If you use the same mapgen, yesz |
| 11:08 |
miner8 |
All right. Thanks. |
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Megaf |
Hello everyone |
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Megaf |
JamesTait: poor cans man! |
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JamesTait |
Bah, they had it coming. 😉 |
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red-001 |
looks like someone gained access to an old account https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=18524 |
| 13:32 |
red-001 |
and used it to spam |
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red-001 |
in an unusually way |
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nm0i |
Hai |
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Calinou |
might be a markov chain bot, red-001, which uses a large delay to convince admins it's not a spammer |
| 14:48 |
Calinou |
I've seen a few of those |
| 14:48 |
Calinou |
or a manual spammer... those are getting more common |
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Hijiri |
maybe he just cares about the trees |
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twoelk |
seem to have difficulties connecting to some freenode servers, anything happening on freenode? |
| 15:00 |
jomat |
twoelk: Hmm… which ones? |
| 15:02 |
twoelk |
kornbluth was the last one I tried, now I'm on Adams, can't remember the others, was on another machine some hours ago |
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* twoelk |
is travelling from pc to pc |
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jomat |
I don't see kornbluth in the DNS-RR |
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jomat |
neither does 82.96.64.4 pong |
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jomat |
twoelk: but adams works for me |
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twoelk |
obviously, as I'm talking over adams :-D |
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agaran |
Megaf: I wasn't yesterday at all online.. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: Farming: Remove unnecessary overriding of groups 0ad3306 https://git.io/vPeWE (2016-09-27T17:03:50+01:00) |
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twoelk |
ooh? netsplit? |
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jomat |
twoelk: Did you see the network broadcast? :-D |
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twoelk |
hm? |
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sfan5 |
twoelk: -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, it would appear that Christmas has come early and we're once more receiving a great deal of packets. We'll work with our brilliant sponsors to mitigate as best we can and apologise for the noise and disruption. |
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* twoelk |
wonders what goodies are in them packets |
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is preparing for a far overland expedition on the justtest server |
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shar-archlinux |
Hello, is there a wiki page about the ports used by Minetest, in case if I use a firewall? |
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shar-archlinux |
Hello, is there a wiki page about the ports used by Minetest, in case if I use a firewall?² (it means I didn't find one, and that I would be willing to create one if someone would helped me to correctly do that) |
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twoelk |
300000 |
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shar-archlinux |
* would help me |
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twoelk |
is standard port |
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shar-archlinux |
and to read after me :P |
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twoelk |
oops 30000 |
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shar-archlinux |
twoelk: for internal connections too? I had something like 42059, then 43426 |
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shar-archlinux |
twoelk: I simply cannot connect to my local session with my actual firewall |
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twoelk |
I always had 30000 except if I changed it in the minetest.conf |
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* twoelk |
is watching the stonemonsters hamering at the door while he waits for the sun to rise |
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nore |
shar-archlinux: the internal connection is a random port if you start singleplayer |
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shar-archlinux |
nore: is there a way to make it through a defined port (such as 30000)? |
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shar-archlinux |
twoelk: thanks :) |
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nore |
shar-archlinux: let me see |
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shar-archlinux |
nore: I could do that, that's kind of you. I just didn't want to search for nothing, then come back 5 minutes later. |
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twoelk |
you should have a config.example file in your minetest/docs directory |
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nore |
current_port = myrand_range(49152, 65535); |
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nore |
looks like you can't configure that if you use simple singleplayer mode |
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twoelk |
doesn't "remote_port = 30000" work? |
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twoelk |
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twoelk |
argh, wrong setting |
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nore |
twoelk: I don't think so, looking at the code |
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nore |
but that should be tested anyway |
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twoelk |
port = 30000 |
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twoelk |
is for setting port, but might only work if you start as server, can't remember |
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nore |
probably the latter, but it would be a good idea to test anyway |
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nore |
shar-archlinux: ^ btw |
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shar-archlinux |
nore, twoelk: remote_port is already set at 30000 in the GUI, I can't find a current_port option. I'll try to change that. |
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twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2870 might give more insight |
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twoelk |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Server <- follow links here |
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twoelk |
just add a new line to the config file |
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Calinou |
https://github.com/blog/2260-hacktoberfest-is-back |
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Calinou |
maybe we should add client-side scripting as hacktoberfest issue :P |
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shar-archlinux |
brb, sorry. |
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twoelk |
pff- got kicked from gameserver for inactivity |
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shar-archlinux |
So "port = 30000" didn't work for my local session |
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I'm going to eat, then read a sociology book. Have a nice day, or have a nice evening! |
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shar-archlinux: forcing client port is currently not possible |
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Calinou |
(maybe you can implement that, and submit a pull request, something like client_port) |
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Calinou |
in minetest.conf |
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Calinou: logging for 'favourite' servers nickname aside of server itself would be so nice.. |
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shar-archlinux |
Calinou: thanks :) |
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shar-archlinux |
Calinou: unfortunately I can't code for the moment. I may learn C++ later, but I'm actually busy in doing sociology. |
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shar-archlinux |
Calinou: Have a nice day (evening)! |
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Calinou |
bye |
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IhrFussel |
Something is wrong with my server...it takes 3 minutes to login via ssh, 2 minutes to logout from ssh, I cant reach webpages on it but load is 0.01...the mt server also seems to be down in the server list but is listed in ps |
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sfan5 |
try rebooting |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, reboot everything or mt server? |
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sfan5 |
everything |
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IhrFussel |
Okay i never had to reboot before |
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Calinou |
IhrFussel: check iowait |
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Calinou |
(check IO values of server, however it'll be hard if you have no SSH access) |
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IhrFussel |
I think its weird that it hangs at "authenticatuon succeeded" everything before is fast |
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IhrFussel |
Im running iotop now but sudo takes long too |
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Calinou, how do I see IO waits? iotop says 0.00B/s |
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Megaf |
agaran: Ok |
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Megaf |
are you online now? |
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Must be sonething I/O related...it doesnt hang when i do uptime for example but autocomplete hangs |
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IhrFussel |
Something* |
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Calinou, I killed minetestserver but its still displayed in ps...how?! Well Ill reboot the whole server now |
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I rebooted the server now |
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DaveyDude |
hello |
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DaveyDude |
any admins from OldCoder's Lord of the Test online? |
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DaveyDude |
i have a friend who would like to play on it |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, I have to delete the huge mapblocks now...the MT server hangs my entire machine after a while now so that likely means the meta data has reached a very high amount now...Im doing a backup now then I will delete every mapblock with 50,000+ uncompressed meta bytes |
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IhrFussel |
This process WILL remove some city parts and maybe some houses with many items, but the only other option would be to delete everything and start a new world |
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