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Hijiri |
earlier discussion: open-source as defined by OSS also excludes CC-BY-NC |
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SA |
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OSI |
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everamzah |
osi excludes cc-by-nc, is that what you're saying? certainly it doesn't exclude share-alike, does it? |
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everamzah: I mean cc-by-nc-sa |
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[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix crash regression when chatting in the ncurses console de83c29 https://git.io/vPc0V (2016-10-06T07:45:50+02:00) |
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everamzah: OSI does not approve of any CC license officially |
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Calinou |
but CC0, CC BY, CC BY-SA are in line with their definition |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix macosx build by disabling postgresql upgrade 009a9f1 https://git.io/vPcE1 (2016-10-06T08:05:55+02:00) |
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does anybody knows how to peek into locked chests when the chest is not showing its inventory to other users |
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Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Mad Hatter Day! 😃 🎩 |
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morning all, morning JamesTait |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Use relative position for nametags 997fc59 https://git.io/vPc5e (2016-10-06T12:13:37+02:00) |
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o/ |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Use more unordered_maps to improve performance in c++11 builds 667975f https://git.io/vPcFU (2016-10-06T12:33:35+02:00) |
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_Megaf |
flatoack github has been getting a lot of attention lately |
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flatpack |
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namach |
guys, does anybody knows how to peek into locked chests when the chest is not showing its inventory to other users |
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Naj |
Hi all |
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sfan5 |
namach: that would be possible with a mod |
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everamzah |
it's also possible with the protection_bypass priv. |
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sfan5 |
oh that was actually merged? |
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everamzah |
:$ /me checks |
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everamzah |
yes, it works |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Fix narrow string compiling issue on MSVC2010 b66a5d2 https://git.io/vPCv0 (2016-10-06T13:57:40+02:00) |
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Fixer_ |
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Krock |
Fixer_, please explain. |
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Krock: fixes, reviews, discussion |
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Fritz01 |
Hello |
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Fritz01 |
I've added a mod to minetest_game but the engine ignores it. how this can be possible? |
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Fixer_ |
enable it in world config |
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everamzah |
is minetest_game in .minetest/games? and is it selected over some system-wide installation of it? or is this a local installation? |
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everamzah |
sub-game mods don't get enabled in world.mt, or did you not mean that? |
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Fritz01 |
i've got a non-portable installation with the engine files (and sub-games too) in a folder called ".minetest_engine". Mods, textures pack and worlds are in a folder called ".minetest" |
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everamzah |
what are you trying to do? |
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Fritz01 |
I've added a mod to minetest_game but the engine ignores it. how this can be possible? |
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Fritz01 |
that's my problem |
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everamzah |
you're trying to modify the sub-game? |
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everamzah |
because minetest_game is a sub-game. |
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everamzah |
or, are you trying to enable a mod? |
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everamzah |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L48 |
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Fritz01 |
yes, i'm trying to modify the sub-game (adding a mod to it) |
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Fritz01 |
but it doesn't works |
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everamzah |
it's not hardcoded, it'll load whatever you put in there. it very well should work, but if it doesn't, you'll want to check the locations of all the files |
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Fritz01 |
that's the point; it (the engine) doesn't load the mod that i added to minetest_game (games/minetest_game/mods) |
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Fritz01 |
Never mind. fixed it |
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everamzah |
for the record: if you're adding a mod to a sub-game that is install system-wide (ie /usr/local/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods) you would need the administrator password. |
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_Megaf |
Linux folks. look http://news.softpedia.com/news/debian-project-needs-you-to-vote-for-the-final-debian-linux-9-stretch-artwork-509002.shtml |
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_Megaf |
softwaves is neat |
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_Megaf |
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Artwork/Stretch |
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_Megaf |
Sharp theme too |
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FreeFull |
I like softwaves best |
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FreeFull |
I put in a vote with four themes |
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Fritz01 |
Which is the default GUI of debian? |
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_Megaf |
GNOME |
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Fritz01 |
nice |
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Fritz01 |
Bye |
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_Megaf |
FreeFull: I voted for Sharp in first and softwaves in seconds, didnt like the others |
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_Megaf |
FreeFull: I will create my own proposal too :) |
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FreeFull |
Yeah, I put softwaves first and sharp second =P |
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_Megaf |
:) |
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FreeFull |
I just like the mellowness of softwaves |
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_Megaf |
Yep |
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_Megaf |
but none are very professional you know |
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_Megaf |
I'm will propose something more corporate and professional |
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_Megaf |
and clean and flat |
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_Megaf |
I *will |
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_Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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_Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
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_Megaf |
I didnt have a single user login on my server since I updated it hours ago |
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_Megaf |
weird |
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_Megaf |
Hi GunshipPenguin |
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_Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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_Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
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GunshipPenguin |
Hi _Megaf |
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_Megaf |
can anyone please briefly join my server just to see if everything is fine there? |
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Krock |
checking *everything* is quite hard |
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aix |
[citation needed] |
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_Megaf |
meh, now a days an entry level phone is much more powerful than my then high end phone http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7247&idPhone2=4998 |
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_Megaf |
maybe I should change my phone |
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_Megaf |
!titel |
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_Megaf |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
_Megaf: Motorola Moto G (3rd gen) vs. Motorola RAZR i XT890 - GSMArena.com |
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_Megaf |
XT890 is the one I have |
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_Megaf |
and I'm very happy with it |
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_Megaf |
but there's no Android 5 or 6 for it |
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_Megaf |
=/ |
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_Megaf |
Krock: what the copper rail does? |
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Krock |
_Megaf, they exist |
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Krock |
nothing more |
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_Megaf |
Krock: copper rail connect to mesecons wires |
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Krock |
bug found |
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_Megaf |
Krock: can you join Megaf Server? |
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_Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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_Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/10, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
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_Megaf |
its about carts |
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Krock |
_Megaf, they don't connect with mesecons here |
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_Megaf |
here one cart derailed and went to a nearby rail line and the other derail and stoped |
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_Megaf |
so yeah, carts not stable for release |
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Krock |
do you have the lastest git version? |
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Krock |
there has been a fix for this recently |
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_Megaf |
Krock: I just cloned the repo, as we were talking about it on -dev |
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Krock |
loading server media... |
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Krock |
takes quite long |
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Krock |
Hello Jeija |
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Jeija |
Hello Krock |
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_Megaf |
Hey Jeija |
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agaran |
hi Jeija :) |
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Jeija |
Btw, is anyone here familiar with cross-compiling minetest on Linux for Windows? |
| 17:00 |
Krock |
yeah, asl sfan5 |
| 17:00 |
Krock |
*ask |
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Jeija |
Yes, I have already written to him directly. Just got no immediate answer. Figured I might try it here, but I will propably just have to wait. |
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Krock |
AFAIK, simply run the buildbot script in the misc folder |
| 17:02 |
Krock |
you also might try in #-de ;) |
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Jeija |
Did that, got this error: http://pastebin.com/pXeBnJP0 |
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* CWz |
never got buildbot to compile a working minetest for windows |
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Krock |
hmm.. something with mutex isn't working properly |
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agaran |
if I want very custom map, then I can use mg_singlenode, and on_mapblock handler to add nodes I want? |
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Krock |
agaran, do you want your own mapgen or what? |
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Krock |
hey twoelk |
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twoelk |
hi |
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agaran |
Krock: complex idea... but yes, it can be expressed as own mapgen in lua |
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Krock |
then use minetest.register_on_generated(..) |
| 17:13 |
Krock |
keep a look at the other lua mapgens - can be helpful :) |
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agaran |
yup, so my idea is mostly valid |
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_Megaf |
Jeija: can you suggest improvements for this? https://github.com/Megaf/mese_fence |
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_Megaf |
I mean, it works. Nothing wrong with it |
| 17:16 |
_Megaf |
but the code is very old |
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_Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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_Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 3/10, 2/3 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Fix C++11 Windows build of threading code 60e1d5e https://git.io/vPWtM (2016-10-06T21:17:07+02:00) |
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paramat |
agaran here's a good example of lua mapgen https://github.com/paramat/cliffs/blob/master/init.lua |
| 19:58 |
paramat |
except of course set 'water_level' to your mapgen's water level |
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agaran |
paramat: thx :) |
| 20:00 |
paramat |
also if your mapgen has water then you'll need to 'vm:update_liquids()' as shown here https://github.com/paramat/stability/blob/master/init.lua#L292 |
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agaran |
paramat: well I probably just clone that and run singleplayer to see how it works |
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paramat |
the code will auto-set singlenode mapgen |
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paramat |
because of course singlenode cannot be selected in world creation |
| 20:03 |
paramat |
those 2 mods have the noise memory-use optimisations many other mods lack |
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agaran |
[cliffs] 477 ms |
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paramat |
it's experimental so you may evetually need code to spawn player at surface |
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agaran |
sure, it is already neat to see working example :) |
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Jeija |
I just uploaded two videos about making the minetest world a spherical planet. Thought you might like them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztAg643gJBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joFWr3JzBOI |
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paramat |
omg |
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paramat |
this is my attempt at planets https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=15065 |
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Krock |
we need gravity points! |
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agaran |
yep.. ;) |
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* Krock |
wonders if Jeija actually understands that formula in the top image |
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Jeija |
Krock, watch the video. I explain it :) |
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Krock |
oh. these are links |
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Krock |
wow. amazing visualisation |
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Krock |
lol. that stretching and squashing looks so funny :3 |
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Jordach_ |
inb4 Jeija has done orbital mechanics in KSP |
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rubenwardy |
see planether |
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rubenwardy |
Jeija has done a space game before |
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rubenwardy |
!g planether |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Problem getting data from Google. |
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rubenwardy |
!b planether |
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Krock |
knocked out from 4:21 to 4:34 |
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rubenwardy |
https://github.com/Jeija/planether |
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rubenwardy |
but yeah, that's cool |
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* _Megaf |
looks |
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Krock |
Jeija, +1 for the unexpected *POW*, when hitting the satelite :3 |
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_Megaf |
the amount of talented people involved in Minetest is too damn high! |
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_Megaf |
*Insert meme here* |
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paramat |
MT attracts creative people, like LEGO does |
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rubenwardy |
very nice video |
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rubenwardy |
you should post to the forum |
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rubenwardy |
oh ,you have |
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Krock |
Jeija, when's the pull request coming? It's so amazing :) |
| 20:33 |
rubenwardy |
sounds like it's glitchy |
| 20:34 |
Krock |
the dohnut behaviour makes it not easier to understand how it works :3 |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Fix C++11 Windows build of threading code 0a16e53 https://git.io/vPWWC (2016-10-06T22:37:30+02:00) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: use unordered containers where possible (patch 4 on X) 155288e https://git.io/vPWWW (2016-10-06T22:37:26+02:00) |
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Krock |
so, moved all the planet commits on top of the log. makes it much easier to rebase :3 |
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_Megaf |
twoelk: Hey, do you have a server? I dont remember |
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sfan5 |
Jeija: by the way you can use https://gist.github.com/sfan5/780c24313c164d34634e18677683b9a3#file-libleveldb to recompile leveldb and to make your build work without any messing around |
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twoelk |
sometimes |
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sfan5 |
the threads fix is also upstream now |
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twoelk |
i sometimes run a server that announces to the public list, most server instances are private though and run on request |
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Jeija |
sfan5, good! Thank you! |
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Krock |
hmm. the round world does not seem to like non-flat mapgen |
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Krock |
or better: the node borders there aren't rendered yet |
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Jeija |
Krock, yes, that doesn't work unfortunately. Adapting the node face generation code seemed very difficult. Collision detection works fine though :) |
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Krock |
indeed :) |
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Krock |
but it seems to base on shaders to display correctly, right? |
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Jeija |
The curvature is implemented in shaders, yes. But the mechanics of the planet can only be implemented in the cpp code. |
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Fixer |
where is VanessaE? |
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Danek |
hey guys , is someone here who is experienced in world edit? |
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rubenwardy |
depends, ask the question |
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rubenwardy |
the author is online here anyway |
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Danek |
i want to know if there is a faster way to place a sphere then to go into menu or use chat comman |
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twoelk |
there once was a sort of node gun that would shoot blobs of nodes |
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Danek |
hmm |
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