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[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix owner not being checked on write to book 2917562 https://git.io/v93pR (2017-04-27T01:28:23Z) |
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BBmine |
I feel like this guy is a spammer. |
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BBmine |
https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=21081 |
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BBmine |
He joined this evening, and all his boxes (signature, occupation, etc) go to the same webpage. |
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[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Remove dye craft recipe conflict. ae7206c https://git.io/v9sJa (2017-04-27T03:19:59Z) |
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player1015 |
I just found out about minetest and I'm really fascinated with it. Does minetest have standard modpacks or a management system for them? I think that it would really increase its popularity if it had modpacks similar to minecraft's feed the beast that you could just install and play with friends |
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sofar |
there's "Subgames" that effectively do this |
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sofar |
some modpacks exist that come really close to that as well |
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sofar |
player1015: best place to look is the various forum sections |
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sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=38 |
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sofar |
player1015: and yes, there is a *ton* of content out there, all ready to install and use |
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player1015 |
sofar: I see lots of interesting subgames on the forum. Are the subgame servers usually active with lots of players? |
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sofar |
they feel pretty busy at the moment |
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sfan5: do we have stats like 'currently playing: xxx players' somewhere? |
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sofar |
sfan5: maybe convince minetestbot to query/show it |
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sofar |
MinetestBot: !playing |
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sofar |
MinetestBot: !players |
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sofar |
!playing |
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sofar |
!players |
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sofar |
ergh w/e |
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player1015: http://i.imgur.com/vwkNdzn.png |
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sofar |
that's just one page with ~200 players? |
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sofar |
of course, it's the top servers |
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player1015 |
Nice. Are there any mods that implement something like Factions for minecraft? Land claiming for pvp servers that you can overclaim with enough power |
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sofar |
player1015: please note that "subgames" do not need special downloads if you're playing on a server that runs a subgame |
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player1015 |
Really? How does it work then? |
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sofar |
minetest downloads all the needed parts at first connect |
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sofar |
including 3d models, animations, sounds, textures |
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sofar |
most of the servers in the list are heavily modded already |
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e.g. skyblock server is a completely different world with custom craft recipes |
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player1015 |
Is the downloaded code sandboxed? |
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sofar |
dreambuilder has thousands of nodes |
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sofar |
code isn't downloaded at all |
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sofar |
(*) |
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sofar |
in the future it may be, but it will be sandboxed heavily |
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sofar |
minetest currently does not have client side mods, all the mod code runs on the server only |
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player1015 |
So rendering a menu for a machine for example would be done by standard code that gets some type of markup from the server? |
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sofar |
correct (called a formspec in minetest lingo) |
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sofar |
mods all run entirely on the server only, and are written in lua |
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mods provide extra assets as they need |
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the server finds all the assets when it starts, and then sends them out to each client that connects |
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player1015 |
Does singleplayer also run a server on your machine? |
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sofar |
effectively |
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otherwise code is just duplicated for no reason |
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sofar |
but in singleplayer mode, nobody else can connect |
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sofar |
it's the same efficiency, though |
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sfan5 |
sofar: theres a thing at the top of servers.minetest.net |
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sofar |
sfan5: ahh neat |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Thank You Thursday! 😃 ⤠|
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[git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest: Allow scripts to get the client protocol version in non-debug builds.… 1ef9eee https://git.io/v9s0f (2017-04-27T09:49:44Z) |
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[git] BluebirdGreycoat -> minetest/minetest: Fix incorrect formspec-tooltip doc, add detail in 'floodable' & 'on_f… d130e1f https://git.io/v9s0J (2017-04-27T09:49:07Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Don't permit to copy Scripting classes (Client,Server,Mainmenu) b82e5ec https://git.io/v9szJ (2017-04-27T09:52:44Z) |
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[git] desttinghim -> minetest/minetest: Search user path for sounds (#5657) 04ba2d2 https://git.io/v9s6k (2017-04-27T11:33:59Z) |
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DS-minetest |
hi MinetestBot |
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MinetestBot |
Hello DS-minetest! |
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ThomasMonroe_ |
hi DS |
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DS-minetest |
hi Tre |
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Paul27 |
Hello. There's someone on the community that can host a server even for a short period of time? |
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ThomasMonroe_ |
Paul27 try minetesthosting/com |
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ThomasMonroe_ |
.com* |
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Paul27 |
I know but the free hosting service there is much limited. The point is that i would like to "launch" a server, but only in a test state. |
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Paul27 |
I mean, to see how it would develop |
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CalebDavis |
i am wondering is there a way to hide the "<player> is connecting" messages in a server |
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DS-minetest |
hm, if an object A collides with another object B, both have the same velocity direction, A is in front of B, B i faster, what's the new velocity of B, the velocity of A or 0? |
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CalebDavis |
i think A and B would trade velocities |
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Paul27 |
Well, if A and B are two solids like stone or wood, and if B is enough fast, they'll stick togheter |
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DS-minetest |
(i mean objects in minetest) |
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Paul27 |
Ops |
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CalebDavis |
yea they should end up with a velocity that is the average of them both |
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[git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Fix Travis builds c761717 https://git.io/v9GIe (2017-04-27T14:57:46Z) |
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CalebDavis |
is there a way to hide the "<player> is connecting" messages in a server |
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red-002 |
player is connecting? |
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red-002 |
you mean ** Player joined right? |
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CalebDavis |
no the *** PLayer is connecting |
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CalebDavis |
it appears om mms and not much else cause so many people are trying to connect but not getting through |
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CalebDavis |
so it says that they are connection but doesnt say that they join |
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CalebDavis |
connecting* |
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Paul27 |
Hello. There's someone on the community that can host a server even for a short period of time? |
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red-002 |
define short period of time |
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red-002 |
minutes? hours? days? |
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Paul27 |
like a month? |
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red-002 |
well you can try can convince existing server hosts |
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red-002 |
you need a good argument through |
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Paul27 |
That's what i'm asking for? |
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Shara |
Maybe try explaining why you need it and what you'll do with it. |
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Shara |
Server owners get multiple requests for things like this practically every day. |
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red-002 |
why can't you host it yourself anyway? |
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red-002 |
you just need a pc and be willing to pay the power bill for leaving it running overnight |
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Paul27 |
Shara: I want to see how a low-modded server with simple name and rules would gain popularity |
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red-002 |
that's what I did before I got bored of hosting a server |
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Shara |
A simple server isn't really anything new. |
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Paul27 |
red-002: This can be dumb, but i'm afraid of.. hacker attacks |
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red-002 |
or if you don't mind investing a bit you can get a vps |
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Shara |
You can get a pretty cheap VPS for a server like that. |
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red-002 |
Paul27 don't worry about hackers too much |
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Paul27 |
The point is that i don't want to give "away" personal infos and/or money for a project that has a big chance of failure |
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Paul27 |
red-002: um why not? |
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red-002 |
you are unlikely to be attacked just for hosting a minetest server |
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Shara |
Paul27: Considering how cheap a VPS for a month is, the time I'd need to set you up would be worth more to me than you'd have to pay. |
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Shara |
If you are not willing to invest in your experiment, it might be difficult to find someone else to. |
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red-002 |
btw I think the people running http://minetest.tv/ are willing to host a few servers |
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rubenwardy |
there hasn't been any reported incidents of a server being hacked |
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CalebDavis |
you could even host on a 10 dolar rasberry pi |
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rubenwardy |
DDOS, yes, but no hacking |
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red-002 |
but few rules and mods is hardly a new idea |
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Shara |
red-002: minetest.tv are NOT willing to host for others. |
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Paul27 |
Shara: "the time I'd need to set you up would be worth more to me than you'd have to pay" Can you please rephrase? |
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Shara |
I am the only person other than the owner who has ever been allowed to have a server there. |
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red-002 |
the time you will have to invest in seting up a server is greater then the monetary cost |
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Shara |
Paul27: My time is worth more to me then the amount of money you would need to pay to do this yourself. |
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Shara |
And I don't see why I'd be willing to make that investment of my time, if you aren't willing to invest in your own idea. |
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Paul27 |
Well can't you just say "No, sorry"? |
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sofar |
he's explaining why everyone is saying "No, sorry" |
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Shara |
she* |
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Shara |
And hi sofar :) |
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sofar |
dem personies |
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sofar |
dis humanooyd |
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Shara |
:D |
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sofar |
You know, when you see IRC nicks around long enough you tend to make your own mind up about certain people being either male or female or "whatever" |
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sofar |
it's pretty darn hard to correct that perception after a while |
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sofar |
I want to say photos would help, but that'd be too risky :) |
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Shara |
Just a little :) |
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sofar |
some things can't be left unseen |
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rubenwardy |
I got the impression that Shara was female |
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rubenwardy |
something about the name :P |
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Fixer |
Shara is not female? |
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Shara |
At this rate, I'll be doubting it myself! |
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Fixer |
still playing debug minetest, 15 fps, want to puke soon |
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Fixer |
still no crash I want |
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Fixer: have you tested other particle emmiting mods yet to compare to the TNT blast issue? |
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Fixer |
twoelk: nope, I'm dealing with other stuff right now |
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twoelk |
:-) |
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twoelk |
cool, I'm sort of riding a bat on JT2! |
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twoelk |
oops, it went poof :-( |
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yusf[m] |
Hello! I'm trying to differ between mt_g farming and farming_redo in a third mod. How to do it? |
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yusf[m] |
^ in code, that is :D |
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red-001 |
check for diffrences in api? |
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yusf[m] |
How? I also figured I'll look for the file corn.lua in farming and if present I know it's farming_redo. But I don't know how? |
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yusf[m] |
I'm new to modding and I only know minetest.get_modpath |
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red-001 |
what are you trying to do anyway? |
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red-001 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/game_api.txt |
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yusf[m] |
Make a third mod use the "right" farming mod. |
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yusf[m] |
It seems like there's the global called farming.mod = "redo" in farming_redo. I'll just check for that! :) |
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red-001 |
https://github.com/tenplus1/farming/blob/master/init.lua#L9 |
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yusf[m] |
That is awesome, thanks guys |
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red-001 |
np |
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yusf[m] |
Oh, I meany "guy". Looked too fast and thought tenplus1 chimed in. |
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yusf[m] |
Thanks red-001 |
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nvm, i think i just found it |
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pandaro |
Is it normal that 'get_player_control()' does not work when a player is shown a formpec? |
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pandaro |
*hello at all |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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pandaro |
thanks |
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ThomasMonroe |
hi sfan5 |
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red-001 |
well that's fun I'm being insulted by coconut in a pm |
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GreenDimond |
sfan5, why no? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17459#p266019 |
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GreenDimond |
Rui asked for posts to be deleted there... |
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GreenDimond |
Oh. You're away. |
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rubenwardy |
GreenDimond: that's not what that topic's for |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: https://i.imgur.com/bzXBXY0.png guess my level of triggered |
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GreenDimond |
Ah. Then what is the topic to do it? sfan could have at least answered the poor guys question. |
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rubenwardy |
Just tell them to email c55, not sure if he checks his pms |
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GreenDimond |
On a scale of one to 10 Fixer? 20. Ill get on and ask him to move. |
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GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: allrighty, will do. |
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Fixer |
when i /home and seen that i was fuuu+E666 |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: i guess if that gets moved I need to protect that damn lake to have no such surprise builds |
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GreenDimond |
That would be smart. |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: https://i.imgur.com/lfmxyYB.png |
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GreenDimond |
I saw the original? |
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GreenDimond |
Getting on |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: be polite |
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GreenDimond |
I am? |
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Fixer |
you are polite right now, yes |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: or maybe leave her alone for some time until she forgets about it and then move it away |
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GreenDimond |
I might try it if she resists. |
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GreenDimond |
So akward to call someone "love" xD |
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Fixer |
lol, yes |
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Fixer |
creepy |
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Fixer |
like it is your wife |
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GreenDimond |
Fixer: crisis averted. Better protect it fast :) |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: thank you very much |
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GreenDimond |
No prob. That is probably the most helpful thing I have done all month :P |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: her building still standing here though |
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GreenDimond |
It is? I moved it... |
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Fixer |
oh |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: looks like my client have not updated the blocks |
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GreenDimond |
You might try relogging? |
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Fixer |
it is fixed after I reentered the area |
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GreenDimond |
Oh good |
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Fixer |
will protect middle of the lake |
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GreenDimond |
Good. |
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