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Brackston |
I was looking at homedecor modpack's soda machine code |
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Brackston |
seems like the code on_rightclick = function(pos, node, clicker, itemstack, pointed_thing) does work now |
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Brackston |
the file in is gastronomy.lua |
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Brackston |
I changed the code to on_punch and it now takes coins. |
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Brackston |
Diff is here |
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Brackston |
215,216c215,216 |
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Brackston |
< on_rightclick = function(pos, node, clicker, itemstack, pointed_thing) |
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Brackston |
< local wielditem = clicker:get_wielded_item() |
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Brackston |
--- |
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Brackston |
> on_punch = function(pos, node, puncher, itemstack, pointed_thing) |
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> local wielditem = puncher:get_wielded_item() |
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Brackston |
223c223 |
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Brackston |
< clicker:set_wielded_item(wielditem) |
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Brackston |
--- |
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Brackston |
> puncher:set_wielded_item(wielditem) |
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Brackston |
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Brackston |
< minetest.chat_send_player(clicker:get_player_name(), S("Please insert a coin in the machine.")) |
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Brackston |
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Brackston |
> minetest.chat_send_player(puncher:get_player_name(), S("Please insert a coin in the machine.")) |
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Brackston |
233d232 |
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Brackston |
< |
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Brackston |
This works however I would love to see the on_rightclick work though. Anyone have any ideas ? |
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Brackston |
LOL forget all that I see VanessaE fixed this 11 days ago. Thx... VanessaE |
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Brackston |
I am still such a newbie with lua coding |
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hisforever |
Where can I find a round Sun and moon I had them before my OS crash? |
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[git] neoascetic -> minetest/minetest: Fix OSX builds (closes #6289, fixes #6270) (#6306) 928609c https://git.io/v5tl0 (2017-08-24T05:58:12Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Network cleanup (#6302) c7160cb https://git.io/v5t4T (2017-08-24T06:28:54Z) |
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[git] juhdanad -> minetest/minetest: Fix Android node selection distance (#6187) 01c319d https://git.io/v5t4s (2017-08-24T06:31:33Z) |
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[git] bendeutsch -> minetest/minetest: Safe digging and placing (#6127) 397a701 https://git.io/v5t4G (2017-08-24T06:30:46Z) |
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lamazoni |
idk if there is some MS menber in the team who can make bug involontary |
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lamazoni |
because there are plenty of it |
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lamazoni |
shame of those guy |
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lamazoni |
*accidentally |
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[git] stujones11 -> minetest/minetest: Make entity selection and collision boxes independently settable (#6218) ac4884c https://git.io/v5tge (2017-08-24T08:01:16Z) |
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[git] neoascetic -> minetest/minetest: Fix OSX builds caused by __WORDSIZE again (#6307) caf61f3 https://git.io/v5tgq (2017-08-24T08:02:23Z) |
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jas_ |
hello |
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jas_ |
minetestserver updated, dcbl now with antipvp warpstone |
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jas_ |
!server dcbl |
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jas_: dcbl | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 5/20, 4/6 | Version: 0.5.0-dev / dcbl | Ping: 116ms |
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QwertyDragon |
on http://www.minetest.net/downloads/ I went to https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/stable-0.4, but when it compiled it says it is Minetest 0.4.17 |
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sfan5 |
is that a problem? |
| 11:38 |
Raven262 |
Maybe cause of this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6266 |
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sfan5 |
rubenwardy: i think you merging that pr has accidentally reset the website |
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QwertyDragon |
not a dev version, but is it ok to use as a production server? |
| 11:39 |
sfan5 |
wait what |
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sfan5 |
rubenwardy: disregard that |
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sfan5 |
QwertyDragon: 0.4.17 is planned to be released as bugfix release based on 0.4.16 |
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QwertyDragon |
I down loaded and compiled https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/stable-0.4 today, but was surprised to see it say 4.17 as it compiled. just want to double check that using it will not make a map incompatible when 4.17 is "really" released. So it is just a bug with the naming right? |
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sfan5 |
what you're getting is 0.4.16 with a different version |
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QwertyDragon |
On the forum looks like worlds made in 0.4 are planned to still be compatible with 0.5, if I am reading it right. But I saw the warning about not using development versions, so was worried the link I used might have been wrong. |
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sfan5 |
no the link is correct |
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sfan5 |
like i said what you get is 0.4.16 with a version number of 0.4.17 |
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QwertyDragon |
ty :) |
| 11:58 |
sfan5 |
if you want to be absolutely sure just download from here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.4.16 |
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jas_ |
gn o/ |
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jas_: Minetest France | minetest-france.fr:31001 | Clients: 11/60, 15/26 | Version: 0.4.16-dev / minetest | Ping: 10ms |
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zyabin101 |
!server |
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zyabin101: Airwolf | rdp.hobbyshelf.website | Clients: 0/15, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 121ms |
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zyabin101 |
@jas_ I wish you a 512x night. |
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zyabin101 |
Does @MinetestBot choose a server at random? |
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sfan5 |
zyabin101: does |
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zyabin101 |
How do I make a flowing texture for a liquid? |
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[git] adrido -> minetest/minetest: Dont define min/max macros in minwindef.h (#6308) 017840f https://git.io/v5qsb (2017-08-24T15:13:53Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Verify compiler version before building anything (#6293) b28af0e https://git.io/v5qGZ (2017-08-24T15:16:55Z) |
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[git] Ekdohibs -> minetest/minetest: Add clientside translations. b24e643 https://git.io/v5qW5 (2017-08-24T15:54:10Z) |
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Megaf |
Hi |
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rdococ |
"Hi, invisible dude in the sky? Why did you create Ebola?" |
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fireglow[m] |
to annoy you, of course |
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[git] Ekdohibs -> minetest/minetest: Fix updatepo.sh and run it. b47c19c https://git.io/v5qKz (2017-08-24T16:44:38Z) |
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nore |
Wuzzy: clientside translations should work as soon as I push this commit: https://github.com/Ekdohibs/minetest/commit/8221d3bc535b026c1bb06b5c76188a97c27c38cc which I'll do quite soon |
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nore |
(you'll need both an updated server and an updated client to get the translations, however) |
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Wuzzy |
nore: I don't quite understand how this is working, nore |
| 17:05 |
nore |
Wuzzy: try to do as said here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=18349 |
| 17:05 |
Wuzzy |
thanks |
| 17:05 |
Wuzzy |
by the way the commit seems strange |
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Wuzzy |
why do you have to add the languag code into the PO file? |
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Wuzzy |
isn't the language already implied by the directory name? o_O |
| 17:06 |
Wuzzy |
seems redundant to me |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Ekdohibs -> minetest/minetest: Add translation of LANG_CODE in all languages 8221d3b https://git.io/v5qiF (2017-08-24T16:56:28Z) |
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nore |
Wuzzy: it is |
| 17:07 |
nore |
but there seems to be no way to ask gettext for the language it selected |
| 17:07 |
Wuzzy |
whaaaa? |
| 17:07 |
nore |
so we have to resort to this hack until we find a better way :( |
| 17:07 |
Wuzzy |
iirc you don't query gettext for this kind of thing |
| 17:08 |
Wuzzy |
also, isnt languge stored in minetst.conf? language = xx |
| 17:08 |
nore |
nope, that only forces language |
| 17:08 |
Wuzzy |
i think you are supposed to use the OS functions to grab the language |
| 17:08 |
nore |
but if it's not set, it defaults to system language |
| 17:08 |
Wuzzy |
yes and i belive there are OS functios to query this |
| 17:09 |
Wuzzy |
a long long time ago i have dealed with gettext myself. my knowledge is just rusty |
| 17:09 |
nore |
hmmm, well, maybe that would work |
| 17:09 |
Wuzzy |
but i am ure there is defineately a non-hack way |
| 17:09 |
nore |
if you know how to avoid the hack, I'd be delighted to merge your pull request :) |
| 17:10 |
nore |
(and it shouldn't be too difficult, there is only one place where you need to change the language used anyway) |
| 17:10 |
Wuzzy |
maybe its even written down explicitly somewhere in the gettext manual. i guess |
| 17:11 |
Wuzzy |
if not, i'm sure the code of other software reveals the solution. i am in my lazy week atm xD |
| 17:11 |
nore |
nope, couldn't find in the whole manual anything about that |
| 17:11 |
Wuzzy |
:-/ |
| 17:12 |
nore |
anyway, please try clientside translation, and tell me what I need to change in the tutorial to make it easy to understand |
| 17:12 |
nore |
well, "tutorial" |
| 17:12 |
nore |
short intructions, really |
| 17:13 |
Wuzzy |
awesome. i have waited for this feature for so long. thank you. i gotta try this out for sure |
| 17:13 |
Wuzzy |
MT is becoming better and better after each release |
| 17:14 |
nore |
hehe, thanks :) |
| 17:15 |
Wuzzy |
nore, i think the reason why the “canonical†way to grab the langugae is not in the gettext manual is because the authors think its not really in Gettext's responsibility |
| 17:16 |
Wuzzy |
OK question. Why is the file called “[yourmodname].[language].tr� This doesn't look like gettext. :-((((( |
| 17:17 |
Wuzzy |
is it really just original_string = translated string? |
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Wuzzy |
like in legacy intllib versions? |
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nore |
Wuzzy: yes |
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nore |
but without spaces around the "=" |
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Wuzzy |
:-( |
| 17:19 |
nore |
it's *not* gettext |
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Wuzzy |
well ok. plural forms? |
| 17:19 |
Wuzzy |
parameters? |
| 17:20 |
Wuzzy |
what about these crucial features? |
| 17:20 |
nore |
(two reasons: 1.: easier, 2.: gettext doesn't work on android) |
| 17:20 |
Wuzzy |
esp how do I insert variable text? the text doesn't say |
| 17:20 |
nore |
parameters: yes, plural forms: no, unfortunately :( |
| 17:20 |
nore |
for variable text: use the "@1" syntax |
| 17:21 |
Wuzzy |
oh wait. its in lua_api.txt |
| 17:21 |
nore |
yes |
| 17:21 |
nore |
(didn't put it in the tutorial to make it as easy to understand as possible) |
| 17:21 |
Wuzzy |
(i think you should. its very important) |
| 17:22 |
Wuzzy |
oh, is there at least a toolchain to extract the strings and update the TR files? |
| 17:22 |
Wuzzy |
this is one of the reasons why I am such a big fan of Gettext. the toolchain |
| 17:22 |
nore |
well I guess you can use xgettext |
| 17:22 |
nore |
ah no |
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nore |
ehm |
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Wuzzy |
huh? |
| 17:23 |
nore |
no, nevermind |
| 17:23 |
nore |
hmm, maybe some old intlib scripts? |
| 17:23 |
Wuzzy |
is the syntax compatible with intllib? intllib has legacy tools (intllib switched to Gettext btw) |
| 17:23 |
Wuzzy |
if its compatible you might just copy those legacy scripts in |
| 17:24 |
nore |
hmmm need to think |
| 17:25 |
nore |
although, since we're not in the stable release yet, if it's really wanted, I could try to use po files instead (or as well) |
| 17:25 |
Wuzzy |
well I think the most important features in a translation system are: 1) you can translate at all. 2) Unicode 3) parameters with switchable order 4) automatic extraction and updating of strings. the rest is convenience |
| 17:25 |
Wuzzy |
so far it seems 1-3 are done |
| 17:25 |
nore |
yup |
| 17:26 |
nore |
4) isn't, except maybe for some old intllib scripts |
| 17:26 |
nore |
need to look at that |
| 17:26 |
Wuzzy |
so, at least it *can* be translated. which is good |
| 17:26 |
Wuzzy |
no, 4 *is* very important |
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nore |
I'm not saying it isn't |
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nore |
I was saying it wasn't done yet :) |
| 17:26 |
Wuzzy |
xD |
| 17:27 |
nore |
anyway, gtg now |
| 17:27 |
Wuzzy |
okay let's just say we keep this system as-is for now. i test in the next hours and report back. cu |
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Zehra |
Greetings all, |
| 17:41 |
Zehra |
I've noticed what could perhaps be a good improvement in Minetest. |
| 17:41 |
Zehra |
From viewing several other games, there seems to be a central authentication system within them. |
| 17:42 |
Zehra |
This provides some advantages over our current system. |
| 17:42 |
Zehra |
Which requires users to enter a password on each server. |
| 17:43 |
Zehra |
This is good in some ways, but also has some disadvantages. |
| 17:43 |
Zehra |
1. It can become overly complex for management of passwords. |
| 17:44 |
Zehra |
Having to use many different passwords means users will in time get confused if not properly noted. |
| 17:45 |
Zehra |
2. People tend to reuse passwords over and over again. |
| 17:46 |
Zehra |
This leads to a possible security issue, if passwords are reused. |
| 17:47 |
Zehra |
My question is if there is any plans to move to a more central authentication system. |
| 17:48 |
Zehra |
I think I've heard previously of some ideas, but am not certain about it. |
| 17:48 |
sy |
Zehra: the MinePass mod does this |
| 17:48 |
sy |
If I understand correctly, you have one password per account |
| 17:49 |
sy |
and could use the same one for minetest AND minecraft servers |
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Zehra |
sy: Seems like MinePass is a pretty good mod. |
| 17:55 |
Zehra |
I'll check a bit more into it later. |
| 17:55 |
sy |
it's a mod and then some |
| 17:56 |
Zehra |
Kind of would be nice if something similar to this was taken officially by Minetest. |
| 17:57 |
sy |
doubt that is going to happen |
| 17:57 |
sy |
i mean |
| 17:57 |
sy |
maybe we'd do something |
| 17:57 |
sy |
we already have a server list |
| 17:57 |
sy |
but certainly not as integrated as minepass |
| 18:00 |
Zehra |
I hope a more integrated user authentication/server list would come in the near future. |
| 18:01 |
sy |
i doubt we can get everyone to agree to it though |
| 18:02 |
Zehra |
It's impossible to get everyone to agree on something. |
| 18:03 |
sy |
well MinePass IS the solution you want |
| 18:03 |
sy |
we just have to get people to use it :) |
| 18:04 |
Zehra |
Lets get them started. :) |
| 18:04 |
Zehra |
Maybe if enough movement is started... it might even become officially part of Minetest. |
| 18:05 |
sy |
it won't, it's in Java :) |
| 18:05 |
sy |
we hate java |
| 18:05 |
sy |
doubt we can officially accept something that requires another daemon just to run |
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Zehra |
Well, sometimes a large change is needed to get something going. |
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Errante |
Hello, is it possible to load luasockets to minetest while on windows? |
| 18:08 |
Errante |
luairc does that on linux, but cant find info for windows |
| 18:08 |
Errante |
irc mod* |
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Errante |
could a builtin password manager solve Zehra's problem? just not central |
| 18:13 |
Zehra |
Errante: I did think somewhat of a password manager. |
| 18:13 |
Zehra |
Problem is even with a password manager, most users will likely reuse passwords. |
| 18:14 |
Zehra |
So it would sort of defeat the purpose of moving to a more central system. |
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Errante |
well, the user could set only a password manager's password, then minetest would handle password by setting a diffenrent one for each server |
| 18:17 |
Errante |
user would need to log in before choosing any server |
| 18:18 |
Errante |
and he would need to backup and restore if want to log from another computer |
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fireglow |
too cumbersome in multi-device scenarios |
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Zehra |
Most users wouldn't bother with backing up... |
| 18:20 |
Errante |
how so? just need to move a file |
| 18:21 |
fireglow |
I don't want to move a file every time I switch computers |
| 18:21 |
Errante |
most user wouldnt bother on losing passwords |
| 18:21 |
fireglow |
I play MT from up to three computers, depending on where I am. |
| 18:21 |
Zehra |
Is the file plaintext ? |
| 18:21 |
Errante |
not everytime |
| 18:21 |
Errante |
just when you want to sync |
| 18:23 |
Zehra |
Would be a headache to reset all the passwords in case of breach. http://www.minetest.net/servers/ |
| 18:24 |
sy |
if something got breached last thing i'd be doing is resetting game passwords |
| 18:24 |
Errante |
xD |
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Krock |
o/ |
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fireglow |
eyy Krock |
| 18:29 |
Krock |
eyy fireglow |
| 18:30 |
Errante |
Zehra: breach of what? |
| 18:31 |
Zehra |
Errante: Passwords and usernames. |
| 18:31 |
Errante |
from the server? |
| 18:32 |
Zehra |
From your suggestion of a built-in password manager. |
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Errante |
if so, then the hacker would get a password which was uniquely set for that server and which wouldnt work at other servers |
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Errante |
oh |
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then he would get all of your passwords, but he would need to know the user PIN |
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Krock |
Errante, I tried to load the luasocket (and IRC) on Windows months ago but failed horribly. No path location worked and Lua didn't provide any helpful information either |
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Errante |
Ive found that minetest looks for lua libs into bin folder, even for windows, but maybe its just on compiling time? not with binaries... |
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Errante |
also, Ive found that minetest implement json functions as API methods, but not RPC |
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Errante |
I think that to implement RPC would be good. lokking forward for that |
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sofar |
rpc in minetest is asking for vulnerabilities |
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fireglow |
^ ! |
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sofar |
json I can understand - serialization is useful for storing complex data |
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should I keep it mod contained? like irc mod? |
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the one thing I can see a use for is something like oauth |
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I want to plug dogecoin in minetest |
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Errante |
using RPC |
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sofar |
you can already do http requests, even |
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Errante |
hmm |
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After finding minecraft to run way too slow on my new laptop (not a gaming machine - mainly intended for documents and development), I remembered this little project, and it was nostalgic opening up a fresh new world :) |
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Minetest for the win! |
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DusXMT |
:3 |
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DusXMT |
It's great that you people are making it happen, sometimes one just needs to relax with some building blocks every now and then~ |
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Ive installed irc mod, with luasockets intalled at minetest's bin folder. now minetest closes without notice... |
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its also set as trusted |
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its dying with a fatal errorof access violation |
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tryed to --verbose --verbose --console to get more info, but nothing is related |
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FreeFull |
Errante: It's probably because it's in the bin folder, and wants to write to its location |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Builtin item: Tidy up (#4370) d3f1743 https://git.io/v5mmN (2017-08-24T21:06:36Z) |
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jas_ |
#minetest-hud |
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*pats hands* |
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hud? |
