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jas_ |
https://ventspace.wordpress.com/2017/10/20/games-look-bad-part-1-hdr-and-tone-mapping/ <-- haven't read all of this yet; found it on news.ycombinator.com |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Footstep sounds: 5 new sounds 3f14d10 https://git.io/vdpAz (2017-10-24T03:21:34Z) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Binoculars / Map mods: Clarify key-activation of items in descriptions 36df80f https://git.io/vdhJ6 (2017-10-24T06:34:15Z) |
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"it's on Hacker News, therefore it's true" :) |
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Calinou |
just saying, but games aren't here to look like real life, in fact they'd be less playable if they did |
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Calinou |
it's true that most AAAs tend to add unneeded effects, sometimes not even possible to disable |
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Calinou |
but it's AAAs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Calinou |
I mean, "adjustable FOV" is still a swear word for most of them |
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o11c |
it's also true that nobody cares about color, though |
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jas_ |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI4nRD-DRpk |
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jas_ |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
jas_: Lonnie Donegan - Rock Island Line (Live) 15/6/1961 - YouTube |
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jas_ |
i didn't read that article i linked, sorry |
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jas_ |
(i shoulda linked the comments instead... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15534622) |
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orbea |
Any ideas on how to fix this crash in the tenplus1's bonemeal mod? https://github.com/tenplus1/bonemeal/issues/5 |
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orbea |
idk anyone is looking at the issues there... |
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deltasquared |
ugh, not from me, my head is full of breadth-first search algorithms right now >_> |
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Krock |
orbea, are you using the latest bonemeal version without any modifications? |
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Krock |
because it looks like the grass table is empty |
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sfan5 |
there are no grass types defined for sand |
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sfan5 |
but the code does not account for this case |
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orbea |
Krock: yes, latest commit with no modificaitons |
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orbea |
*modifications |
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orbea |
seems it can be worked around with this: http://sprunge.us/NhDb |
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orbea |
so there is a problem in the grass function? |
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Krock |
that's definitely NOT a solution |
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Krock |
nod = #grass > 0 and grass[math.random(1, #grass)] or "" |
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orbea |
yea, didn't suggest it was |
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orbea |
just it helps narrow down where its going wrong? |
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sfan5 |
it doesn't help at all really |
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sfan5 |
it's just an incorrect "solution" |
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Krock |
you could add a print() line to check what elements are inside "grass" |
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sfan5 |
hint: there are none |
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Krock |
sfan5, but to an earlier time there should be some in it. I don't see the code where the table gets changed |
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sfan5 |
Krock: for loop right below |
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Krock |
that only takes the values from the deco table |
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Tazy |
how to view that table? |
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Krock |
ah.. it changes it to an empty table due index 3 |
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Krock |
Tazy, print(dump(obj)) |
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orbea |
my problem is I can't reproduce this crash for w/e reason, but Tazy can easily... |
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Krock |
s/obj/grass/ |
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sfan5 |
whether math.random(0,0) raises an exception can be lua version dependent |
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orbea |
lua-5.1.5 here |
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* orbea |
checks what the server its crashed on is using |
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Krock |
respectively math.random(1,0) |
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Krock |
changing the line to nod = #grass > 0 and grass[math.random(1, #grass)] or "" will fix that, but dunno if that's intended |
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Tazy |
orbea, default:silver_sand |
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sfan5 |
Krock: on luajit math.random(1,0) returns nil which would index the table by nil -> also nil and then turn into "" |
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sfan5 |
so yes probably intended |
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orbea |
Tazy: i tired silver_sand too |
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orbea |
the server is on lua52... |
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orbea |
dont suppose it will stop crashing if I use lua51 instead :P |
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Tazy |
i'm on lua 5.1 too |
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sfan5 |
are you sure you're not using luajit on either? |
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Tazy |
no luajit, PAX kills it if i were. |
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orbea |
im using luajit locally |
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sfan5 |
must've changed between 5.1 and 5.2 too then |
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Tazy |
server is freebsd, so probably not. |
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orbea |
doesn't have luajit |
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sfan5 |
what |
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sfan5 |
this bug is impossible if the behaviour of 5.1 and 5.2 is identical |
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Tazy |
I'm not sure what exactly goes wrong there.. with it. |
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orbea |
there I go |
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orbea |
rebuilt minetest locally without luajit and boom |
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* orbea |
waits for minetest to build with lua51+luajit on freebsd... :) |
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* Tazy |
ponders the actual fix |
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orbea |
yea, not a fix, but hopefully it will only blow up locally now... |
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sfan5 |
Krock has pointed out a fix already |
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Tazy |
not sure how it translates, since rarely looking at lua.. |
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orbea |
sorry, i missed that line, im not all here right now with a bad migraine... |
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Tazy |
oh, thanks. overthought it some.. |
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orbea |
thanks for the help, seems to work :) http://sprunge.us/ihDK |
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orbea |
https://github.com/tenplus1/bonemeal/pull/6 |
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nmoin |
Is an iOS version planned? |
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rubenwardy |
> asks question |
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rubenwardy |
> leaves immediately |
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jas_ |
>\x20 |
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