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03:21 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Gennotify docs: Clarify returned positions for decorations 1137f46 https://git.io/vAxHq (2018-03-09T03:16:34Z)
03:21 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Biomes: Document xyz biome limits f091de9 https://git.io/vAxHm (2018-03-09T03:16:25Z)
03:21 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Getv3intfield: Fix logic of return bool 1a88c4b https://git.io/vAxHY (2018-03-09T03:16:25Z)
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07:29 AndrooBuilder hello, how can i use b3d models in minetest? i made a 3d Model in blender, and want to use it ingame :)
07:30 AndrooBuilder the texture for this model ... i need to make by unwrapping the model in blender and save this file to a png and replace it by the texture?
08:01 blaise AndroBuilder: https://wiki.minetest.net/Using_Blender
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08:30 AndrooBuilder blaise: thanks i allready read this and did this, but it does not tell you how to "use" those models in a init.lua ... where to put the files and so on
08:31 blaise ah, so you need a modding howto..
08:46 AndrooBuilder i allready registered nodes and made simple mods with new blocks ... but a how-to ... include a 3D Model + Texture in a mod would be nice
09:13 blaise I wish I could be more useful
09:13 blaise I'm not really a dev.. and I think everyone is asleep at this hour
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15:49 ircSparky how do you use add_item on a detached inventory?
15:51 lumberJ ircSparky, do you have some code thats not working or are you just trying to get an overview?
15:52 ircSparky well I'm trying to make classes with loadouts
15:52 ircSparky at first i made armor items go into the players "armor" inventory
15:53 ircSparky the armor was worn, but it wouldnt show in the inventory slots
15:53 ircSparky im thinking i should add it into the armor_inv instead of player_inv
15:54 ircSparky but armor_inv is local
15:54 ircSparky and it creates the detached inventory
15:54 ircSparky "local armor_inv = minetest.create_detached_inventory(name.."_armor", {"
15:55 lumberJ shouldn't you be getting the armor inventory that already exists? or am i misunderstanding?
15:55 ircSparky yea, thats why i need to know how to get an existing detached inventory
15:55 ircSparky I took a shot in the dark and tried detached:add_item(player:get_player_name().."_armor;armor", item)
15:55 ircSparky didnt work
15:57 lumberJ http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_inventory
15:57 lumberJ you need the name of the inventory as its set up in 3d_armor
15:57 lumberJ i'm looking through now to see if i can find it
15:59 ircSparky yep i got it
15:59 ircSparky thanks
15:59 lumberJ yw
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16:49 shivajiva ircSparky: do you use the armor api to refresh the player, afaik it doesn't work correctly until you do
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17:56 ircSparky well
17:56 ircSparky the visual updates
17:56 ircSparky but the inventory preview dosnt update until you move something around
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18:33 Aduck hello
18:34 Krock hi
18:34 Aduck i was trying to install a mod but it keeps giving me an error when i join my world with that modpack any help?
18:37 Krock Please open your debug.txt file and paste the last few, relevant error lines to pastebin.com so I can see what went wrong
18:37 Aduck ok
18:38 Aduck also i am on linux
18:38 Krock using Minetest 0.4.13 from the Ubuntu repositories?
18:39 Aduck yes
18:39 Aduck Provided world path doesn't exist: /home/-/.minetest/worlds/world i changed my desktop name to a dash
18:39 Krock then you should get the newest version 0.4.16 from the PPA first
18:39 Aduck ok
18:39 Krock it's not a dash. it's a tilt ~ sign
18:40 Krock https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
18:40 Aduck i said i changed my desktop name that is afre /home/ to a dash - a tilde is this ~
18:40 Krock oh okay. I see. However, that shouldn't be the problem
18:41 Krock "Provided world path doesn't exist" is that the error message from Minetest?
18:42 Aduck ok is the newer version unstable? i do use the unstable version of wine the very new one and it does not do anything else than work like wine works normally
18:42 Aduck and yes it is
18:42 Krock Minetest has native Linux binaries...
18:42 Aduck it is still kinda annoying that there are spheres (soccer balls) and not flying in creative
18:43 Krock So what's the most important issue for now? What does work and what not? Did you check whether the path exists?
18:43 Aduck what is the repack? and idk how to unpack a tar.gz
18:44 Aduck a repack*
18:45 Krock before downloading anything, please have a look at the instructions on the PPA/lauchpad page
18:45 Aduck CTCP?
18:46 Aduck what is a CTCP
18:47 Krock Aduck, you can use " /ctcp <nickname> version " on IRC to get the client information of the given nickname
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18:48 Aduck_ so i have to read the thing with Technical details about this PPA title?
18:48 Aduck_ that other time just got an error
18:48 Aduck_ so i had to get back
18:51 Krock get back to what?
18:54 Calinou CTCP stands for client-to-client protocol
18:56 Aduck_ this chat
18:56 Aduck_ _-_
18:56 Aduck_ hello?
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18:57 Aduck why does this keep crashing
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19:34 Fixer ubuntu still has 0.4.13? jeez
19:34 Boingo Fixer: Mine didn't.
19:35 Boingo Fixer: My ubuntu has 0.4.16
19:39 Aduck why won't it update on the Ubuntu Software?
19:45 Lone-Star Aduck: you have to tell it to
19:45 Lone-Star by default, kernel and specific system files will not automtically update
19:46 Lone-Star keeps inexperienced users from breaking the system
19:51 Aduck what is this snapcrafter guy he even copied minecraft and put it on here
19:52 Aduck he also copied minetest
19:52 Fixer what?
19:52 Aduck also how do i tell it
19:56 Lone-Star Aduck: to update kernel?
19:57 Aduck no
19:57 Aduck to update minetest
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19:58 Boingo Aduck: What version of ubuntu?  17.10 has 0.4.16 in it.
19:59 Aduck uhh
19:59 Aduck did i update my computer?
19:59 Aduck lme see
19:59 Aduck i htink i still have 16.04 lts
19:59 Aduck but im not sure
20:00 Aduck is till have that
20:00 Boingo Yeah, that old isn't getting updates anymore, and likely had an old verion of Minetest.
20:00 Boingo So the normal install wont work.
20:00 Aduck WHY DOES IT SAY IT IS UP-TO-DATE
20:00 Aduck IT IS UP-TO-DATE
20:00 Boingo It is, for that version of Ubuntu.
20:00 Lone-Star cause it's using old repos
20:00 Boingo Exactly.
20:01 Boingo It is as-to-date as that version allows (by default)
20:01 Aduck UPDATE YOU STUPID COMPUTER
20:01 Boingo Uh, you need a new version of Ubuntu.
20:01 Boingo Or to install Minetest in a bit more manual way.
20:01 Aduck HOW DO I GET IT THE NEW VERSION
20:01 rubenwardy sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable
20:01 Lone-Star https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
20:01 rubenwardy sudo apt-get update
20:01 Boingo First, turn off your caps lock.
20:02 rubenwardy sudo apt install minetest      or     sudo apt upgrade
20:02 Aduck thanks
20:02 Boingo rubenwardy: <- Yeah, do that.
20:02 Aduck it is updating now
20:02 Aduck thank you ruben
20:02 rubenwardy yw
20:02 Boingo And hope your other dependiencies are new enough.
20:03 rubenwardy Boingo, the PPA supports 14.04 and above
20:03 Boingo rubenwardy: Good to hear.
20:06 Aduck my computer is a compooper it did not update
20:06 Lone-Star that reminds me, gotta do a new build of 5.0-dev, been over a month. not had to much time, working and doing dev work on android
20:07 rubenwardy Aduck: you don't have 0.4.16?
20:07 rubenwardy make sure you do  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable
20:07 rubenwardy and sudo apt-get update
20:07 Aduck i did now
20:07 Aduck i did both
20:07 Aduck like, what does it do
20:08 Lone-Star it updates the repo sources so you can get the newer version of MT
20:08 Aduck it did nothing
20:08 Aduck nothing at all
20:08 Boingo ??
20:08 Boingo You opened a terminal window, and typed in those commands?
20:08 rubenwardy Aduck, please paste the logs to somewhere like gist.github.com
20:09 Aduck yes i did
20:09 Boingo yeah, need to see the logs.
20:09 Aduck Here stable releases can be found.  More info: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it  gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmpf57d4n67/secring.gpg' created gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmpf57d4n67/pubring.gpg' created gpg: requesting key F8CDAB41 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: /tmp/tmpf57d4n67/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created gpg: key F8CDAB41: public key "Launchpad PPA for M
20:09 Aduck that was for the ppa one
20:09 Aduck for the apt install minetest now
20:09 rubenwardy no
20:09 rubenwardy please use a pastebin
20:09 Boingo Did you push ENTER to import the gpg keys?
20:10 Aduck i did
20:10 Aduck lol
20:10 Lone-Star and you ran sudo apt-get update after adding ppa?
20:10 Aduck i did it first
20:10 Aduck then install minetest
20:10 Aduck then the pps
20:10 Aduck pps*
20:10 Aduck ppa*
20:10 Boingo Wrongs order.
20:10 Lone-Star wrong order
20:10 rubenwardy you need to do  the update after the PPA add
20:10 Boingo Do the ppa, then update.
20:11 Aduck ok but i already updated
20:11 Aduck did i mess it up?
20:11 rubenwardy Do the ppa, then update, then upgrade
20:11 Boingo I think I am going to shut up.  :-)  You guys got it covered.  :-)
20:11 rubenwardy the update command gets the information from the internet about possible updates
20:11 rubenwardy so you need to do it after adding the PPA
20:11 Aduck OH
20:12 rubenwardy sudo apt update    then    sudo apt upgrade
20:12 Aduck now it wants me to do apt list --upgradeable
20:12 rubenwardy no need
20:12 rubenwardy sudo apt update;  sudo apt upgrade
20:12 Aduck i have done it
20:13 Aduck i have done the upgradeable
20:14 Aduck then what i do
20:14 Aduck minetest is gone
20:14 Aduck from launcher
20:14 Aduck did i do it right?
20:14 Boingo try   minetest --version
20:14 Boingo In the terminal
20:14 Aduck at the top it says minetest game now
20:14 Boingo See what it says.
20:14 Aduck at the game
20:14 Aduck not the version up there in the corner
20:15 Aduck yup
20:15 Aduck thank you
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20:16 Aduck now i have to place the mod in the mods folder that i had to make
20:17 Aduck and this minetest is better than minecraft
20:17 Aduck cmon it has spheres, the soccer balls
20:17 Boingo Yes, in the mods folder.
20:17 Aduck i knew that lol
20:17 Aduck i have to do that with every mod
20:17 Aduck like even in minecraft you need a mods folder
20:18 Boingo Sorry, thought it was a question.
20:18 Boingo Not a lot of punctuation being thrown about.  :-)
20:19 rubenwardy hopefully in 0.5.0 you'll be able to use the main menu
20:19 Aduck another problem, i forgot the site that had a worldedit that worked
20:20 Boingo rubenwardy: Am I missing something, can't we see that in 4.16?
20:20 Lone-Star minetest.net
20:20 Aduck i have one called Minetest-WorldEdit-master.zip
20:20 Lone-Star thats the one
20:20 rubenwardy Boingo, no, you have to download mods manually currently
20:20 Boingo Oh, for mods, gotcha.
20:21 Aduck the order matters
20:21 Lone-Star rubenwardy: is that already there? or future addition?
20:21 rubenwardy future addition
20:22 Aduck (the order i write them in)
20:22 Lone-Star nice
20:23 Boingo rubenwardy: I was thinking about a mod that could install other mods the other day.  I didn't know that was already in the works.
20:24 Aduck oh no! mods just won't work
20:24 Aduck why do i have 2 minetest
20:24 Aduck from that same thing on the software
20:25 Aduck one has nothing
20:25 Aduck not even servers
20:25 Aduck and the other works
20:25 Aduck the same version btw
20:30 Aduck thank you everyone!
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21:31 yay is there any way to fly in this game? in minecraft you can in spectator and creative mode and minetest has a soccer ball
21:31 rubenwardy yes
21:32 rubenwardy you need the fly privilege
21:32 yay how?
21:32 rubenwardy /grantme fly
21:32 rubenwardy if in single player
21:32 rubenwardy then press K to enable fly mode
21:32 yay why not in multiplayer?
21:32 rubenwardy in multiplayer, you need the admin to grant it to you
21:32 yay in multiplayer creative
21:32 yay ok
21:32 rubenwardy type /privs
21:32 rubenwardy and you'll be able to see what you have
21:39 yay omg
21:39 yay i found a server in which you can have fast mod
21:39 yay emode*
21:39 yay mode*
21:39 yay and i guess noclip is the spectator mode of this, right?
21:39 rubenwardy J to enable, then press E to run
21:40 rubenwardy noclip allows you to go through blocks
21:40 rubenwardy ie: when flying
21:40 yay i know lol
21:40 yay kinda like spectator
21:40 rubenwardy not sure what that is
21:40 yay and like those source games
21:40 yay the spectator is a mode in minecraft that you can go into block and fly
21:41 yay also invisible to players and can see through blocks if inside one
21:41 yay why don't the chunks load
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21:43 yay how do i go fullscrenn?
21:43 yay fullscreen*
21:43 rubenwardy yeah, that's right
21:43 rubenwardy what OS?
21:43 yay ubuntu
21:43 rubenwardy alt+f11
21:44 yay just like at minecraft
21:44 yay but at minecraft is f11 or f12
21:44 Calinou Minetest does not have a built-in fullscreen toggle
21:44 Calinou but your window manager may have an option for that
21:44 Calinou (no such thing on Windows or GNOME by default…)
21:45 yay it does
21:45 yay but like
21:45 rubenwardy yeah, hence why I asked
21:45 yay the actual fullscreen
21:45 Calinou Alt+F11 is enabled by default on Xfce
21:45 rubenwardy for OS
21:45 Calinou on KDE it's easy to bind to a key
21:45 rubenwardy the alternative is to use the fullscreen setting. Make sure to change width and height too
21:45 yay i want a screenshot of WoolyLand it keeps crashing
21:45 rubenwardy in Minetest > Settings > Advanced Settings
21:46 rubenwardy it crashes when you try to take a screenshot?
21:46 rubenwardy are you using PrntScn or F12?
21:46 yay no
21:46 yay i mean
21:46 yay woolyland
21:46 yay when i join
21:46 yay it crashes
21:46 yay the entire game
21:47 yay wait this game has shaders?
21:47 yay how do i activate them
21:47 rubenwardy yes, they're pretty basic
21:47 rubenwardy in Settings
21:47 rubenwardy there's a few check boxe
21:47 yay all on
21:47 yay exept tone mapping
21:47 yay idk what that is
21:47 rubenwardy I usually play with tone mapping and waving
21:47 yay i do it with all
21:47 yay looks good
21:47 rubenwardy tone mapping changes the colour to make it more rich
21:48 rubenwardy I personally don't like generate normal maps, looks weird to me
21:48 yay the normal maps look like minecraft maps
21:48 yay like the normal ones
21:48 rubenwardy also, bump mapping and parallax occlusion is pointless if your texture pack doesn't support it
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21:48 yay i have no texture pack
21:49 yay oh
21:49 yay no more crash
21:49 rubenwardy lol
21:49 yay now it sais too many users
21:49 yay when there are 15
21:49 yay outta 16
21:49 yay does it make me be another player?
21:49 yay another different player?
21:49 rubenwardy players connecting count towards the count
21:49 rubenwardy so there will be one player that is currently connecting
21:50 yay lol
21:51 yay 9 outta 15 error message too many players are online right now. please rejoin at a less busy moment
21:51 yay SKYBLOCK? SPLEEF?
21:51 yay omg
21:51 yay my favourite minigames
21:51 yay from minecraft server
21:52 rubenwardy capture the flag is pretty fun too, if you like killing mobile users
21:52 yay lol
21:52 yay i don't like mobile minetest
21:53 FR4G-TP it is friday my dudes
21:53 yay old version and controls bad
21:53 FR4G-TP and it smells like Pina-coladas
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22:27 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: VoxelArea: add_{x,y,z,p} must be static 12d1e4f https://git.io/vAhKW (2018-03-09T22:27:26Z)
22:27 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Drop unused struct ModLicenseInfo & ModAuthorInfo + default construct… 3b27cf3 https://git.io/vAhKl (2018-03-09T22:27:26Z)
22:27 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: ServerEnvironment & StaticObject cleanups 2c860a6 https://git.io/vAhK8 (2018-03-09T22:27:26Z)
22:27 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Drop unused Server::m_ignore_map_edit_events_peer_id def46c6 https://git.io/vAhK4 (2018-03-09T22:27:26Z)
22:27 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Variable name fix + structure creation unrolling in lighting code bcdb3d5 https://git.io/vAhKB (2018-03-09T22:27:26Z)
22:27 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Drop less performant Server::setBlockNotSent for ClientInterface::mar… 6036f86 https://git.io/vAhKR (2018-03-09T22:27:26Z)
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