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!seen Fritigern |
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cities: fritigern was last seen at 2018-04-25 05:18:39 UTC on #minetest |
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Interesting. |
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!help |
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https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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[git] numberZero -> minetest/minetest: Fix typo (GH#7421) 90acb9b https://git.io/vh2Nh (2018-06-10T08:34:13Z) |
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[git] numberZero -> minetest/minetest: Fix narrow/utf8 difference in incoming/outcoming messages 2c0d8b2 https://git.io/vh2Nj (2018-06-10T08:33:53Z) |
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ANAND |
Hello, why is the register_on_placenode and register_on_dignode not recommended? |
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ANAND |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2804-L2813 |
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ANAND: you are not supposed to use on_placenode or on_dignode when you only need it for a single node |
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Ah, thanks! |
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Telesight |
Hello all ... |
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Telesight |
I tried to update a server from 0.4.16 to 0.4.17 |
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Telesight |
But I get this fault: OOM error from mod '*builtin*' in callback on_joinplayer(): not enough memory |
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Telesight |
What to do with this? |
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sfan5 |
how many people do you have in your auth.txt? |
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Telesight |
300.000 or so ... |
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sfan5 |
right |
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sfan5 |
you should clean that a bit |
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sfan5 |
or switch to sauth |
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Telesight |
How to do the sauth switch? |
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sfan5 |
!mod sauth |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: SQLite Auth [sauth] by shivajiva - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=18604 |
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Telesight |
Let me see ... |
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Telesight |
Sorry I get faults with the install ... |
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Telesight |
Everytime I updat I run into problems, no time for it anymore ... |
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sfan5 |
this is a restriction in luajit, nothing we can do |
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sfan5 |
there are a few options 1) stop the cause of memory usage (clean the auth.txt) 2) recompile luajit with gc64 to allow more memory to be used 3) recompile minetest without luajit |
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Telesight |
Sad, I have to replace the backup, I will loose many players this way |
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sfan5 |
IIRC there was a script that cleaned auth.txt from e.g. players that haven't logged in in a few months |
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sfan5 |
running something like that should be enough to bring the memory usage down |
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Telesight |
Sad, I think I have to close at least 2 servers now ... |
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Krock |
butwhy.png |
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Telesight |
Hackers ruin my maps and buildings and updating does not work ... |
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sfan5 |
don't you have area protection? |
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Telesight |
They can get creative and have admin pick on a pvp server |
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rom1504 |
mind hackers then |
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sfan5 |
sounds like you should update your mods (if not already done) and report a bug |
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rom1504 |
ah "admin pick" is a thing |
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Telesight |
It is impossible to defend this way and run a server ... |
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sfan5 |
it's impossible if you give up right away, yes |
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Krock |
fix your mods as in moderators. the "privs" privilege might not be suited for everyone |
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Krock |
neither is "areas" |
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Telesight |
It has to do with self build clients, not mods ... |
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sfan5 |
how do self-built clients allow people to get the "creative" priv or some items? |
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Krock |
MTG 0.4.16 is the answer |
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Krock |
grep through the debug log. that creative inventory stuff is logged as ACTION |
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sfan5 |
that would fall under "mods", which he said wasn't the problem |
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Krock |
oh right, so this surely can't be the issue then /s |
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Telesight |
I really dont know how they do it, the result is a ruined server ... |
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sfan5 |
you should first update minetest_game, there was a bug in 0.4.16 that allowed unauthorized taking from the creative inv |
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Telesight |
And if updating, to solve this hacker problem, is not possible because of errors then I really dont know how to run a server this way |
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Telesight |
TI did the update, but the server failed to run |
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sfan5 |
it suffices to update only minetest_game to 0.4.17, you can keep the engine on 0.4.16 if you want (although not advised) |
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Telesight |
If I update to 0.4.17 I introduce another error, that of the out of memory problem ... |
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sfan5 |
like i said, keep the engine on 0.4.16 and only update minetest_game |
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Telesight |
The server also becomes day by day slower ... I think also that auth.txt file... |
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Krock |
Maybe it's because the map size is at least a few gigabytes and you're still using sqlite3 instead of postgresql |
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rubenwardy |
Telesight: sban helps with that |
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Telesight |
@rubenwardy What you mean with sban? An alternative way? |
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rubenwardy |
Oops, *sauth |
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sfan5 |
I already suggested that |
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Telesight |
So I own a car to go to the supermarket, but the solution is to use a wheelchair instead ... |
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Krock |
Telesight, you can tweak that wheelchair a little with a turbine or electric wheels |
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Krock |
will also be a bit more exciting than the regular trip |
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Ruslan1 |
Hi Telesight |
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Telesight |
car=Minetest weelchair=alternative solutions |
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sfan5 |
you want to go to the supermarket, but your car is broken. do you 1) not go there? 2) use an alternative means of transportation? |
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cities |
1. |
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cities |
use amazon |
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ANAND |
Can't find the page now, but lag01 has a nifty script for clearing unused entries from auth.txt |
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Krock |
but then you realize that amazon does not offer the delivery service in Greenland or Madagaskar |
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Telesight |
Well, I think the good reader understands what I am saying ... |
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Telesight |
Thanks Anand I hope to find it |
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Ruslan1 |
Telesight: what is your server |
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Telesight |
It is offline now, the name is MinersWorld ... |
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Telesight |
And SkyWars is the other that I had to take offline |
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Ruslan1 |
Telesight: how many players get banned |
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Telesight |
Ruslan1 what you mean with how many? |
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Ruslan1 |
Yes |
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Telesight |
Banned? I dont know ... |
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Ruslan1 |
Telesight: did you ban Gracye |
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Ruslan1 |
Telesight: are you here |
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Telesight |
Ruslan1 Who is Gracye? |
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Ruslan1 |
You know |
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Telesight |
I just checked but Gracye is not banned, but what has this to do with my problem? |
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Ruslan1 |
Um |
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Ruslan1 |
Telesight: who did hack your server |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Android: use c++_shared library instead of c++_static 5966e89 https://git.io/vhaLK (2018-06-10T15:57:29Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix many Android build issues 057f157 https://git.io/vhaL6 (2018-06-10T15:54:44Z) |
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blaise |
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! |
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Telesight |
Ruslan1 I dont know |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Bump android version for next release 2e18a2d https://git.io/vhati (2018-06-10T16:30:25Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Disable clang-tidy when no C/C++ files has been modified. fb4e4f0 https://git.io/vhatQ (2018-06-10T16:33:33Z) |
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IhrFussel |
Telesight, A modified client CANNOT simply tell the server to give them whatever they like...the server checks the request first ... so the only way to "hack" items without a certain priv is a security hole in mod(s) ... the creative exploit was known for months now and I edited the files manually back when my server was still 0.4.16 |
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IhrFussel |
now MTG 0.4.17 (not the engine) is out and you can simply replace 0.4.16 MTG with this one ... it contains the bugfix for the exploit |
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IhrFussel |
And in case you use 3d_armor and didn't update it for a long time: It also had an exploit, so better update |
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Telesight |
IhrFussel Thank you for your reaction, I will update Minetest_game. To also update the engine I have to make my autht.txt smaller first. |
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IhrFussel |
No need to update the engine for that...there is no known exploit caused by the engine AFAIK |
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Krock |
inb4 there's 0.4.17.1 |
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IhrFussel |
Well it's not hard to clean the auth.txt ... I once had a script for that..let me check if I still got it somewhere |
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IhrFussel |
Telesight, are you on Linux? |
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xerox123 |
does the script remove unused entries? |
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xerox123 |
if so, how old? |
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IhrFussel |
I did it! It's just a one liner |
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IhrFussel |
delts=$(date -d "8 months ago" +%s); awk -F ':' -v ts="$delts" '($4>ts) {print}' auth.txt > tempauth.txt |
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IhrFussel |
This will copy all entries where the last login was <= 8 months ago into tempauth.txt |
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IhrFussel |
It's very fast too (took 5 seconds with 10,000 lines) |
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Calinou |
awk is love, awk is life |
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Calinou |
I had a class on awk earlier this week :P |
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Telesight |
IhrFussel Sorry for the delay, yes "I am on Linux" ... |
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IhrFussel |
Telesight, good then you can now use my one-liner and adjust the amount of months for the last login |
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Glorfindel |
glorfindel hi |
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Telesight |
Ihfussel 280.000 accounts in < 1 second |
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IhrFussel |
Check with wc -l tempauth.txt if the lines are really in it...when sure you can replace the old auth.txt ... you should still save the old auth.txt somewhere just in case |
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BillyS |
Hmm |
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BillyS |
Can I make tnt.boom not destory everthing, but still hurt players? |
| 19:01 |
BillyS |
If I set radius to 0, there is no explosion |
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Krock |
damage_radius = 20 |
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BillyS |
Hmm |
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BillyS |
thx |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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BillyS |
lol |
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cities |
have you guys moved to discord |
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Krock |
a few of them use it but IRC is still the only official chat |
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cities |
ah |
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cities |
it seems quieter than in 2014 :) |
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Krock |
discord existed in 2014? |
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cities |
No, this |
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Krock |
this what |
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cities |
This channel seems quieter than in 2014. |
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cities |
Which is why I asked if people had moved to discord. |
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Krock |
must be the lower occurrency of flamewars |
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cities |
Oh, I don't know anything about that. |
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Krock |
<add a quiet phase right after the next message here> |
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Teckla |
Is there anything obviously wrong with this line of Lua code? local cid_stone_brick = minetest.get_content_id("default:stone_brick") |
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sfan5 |
no |
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Teckla |
I'm using LVM to generate structures. This works: local cid_air = minetest.get_content_id("air") |
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Teckla |
sfan5: Thanks. Hmmm. |
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* Teckla |
is perplexed why his fill_area function works with cid_air but not with cid_stone_brick. |
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sfan5 |
it's default:stonebrick |
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Teckla |
sfan5: Ah, thank you -- my apologies -- though no success with that extraneous _ removed either. |
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Teckla |
I wonder if it has something to do with trying to fill in a block where the player currently is. |
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sfan5 |
then you're doing something else wrong |
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sfan5 |
nah that should wor |
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sfan5 |
k |
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Teckla |
Ah. |
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Teckla |
sfan5: Thanks for your help. :) I'm sure I'll eventually see what I did wrong here. |
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Teckla |
Heh, it's strangely enjoyable to write Lua code that wipes out a big chunk of the map where part of the map is ocean, and then watch the ocean water come flooding in. |
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huesal |
Teckla: you can do that easily with WorlEdit mod |
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Teckla |
Cool. :) |
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Teckla |
Ultimately, I'm hoping to generate some buildings programmatically. |
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Teckla |
Although I'm starting to become pretty confident this problem is not in my Lua code... |
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Teckla |
Ah, maybe my world file is broken, actually |
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huesal |
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ishka |
You mean on login? Or server startup? |
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ishka |
For login-time: Less different graphics may help, as far as I know (not tested, just from what I have read) |
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huesal |
login time |
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huesal |
more so in Android |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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hello. Is there some mod to generate people? |
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