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[git] pauloue -> minetest/minetest: Document default values for general cmake options (#7595) 0e1915c https://git.io/fNgQ0 (2018-07-29T08:21:09Z) |
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Astrobe |
https://wiki.minetest.net/Worlds |
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Astrobe |
lol every file has its own freaking format. In a game that uses Lua, which started as a configuration language. |
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sfan5 |
those formats have existed before lua was added |
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Astrobe |
I suspected that. |
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Astrobe |
Joke aside, in env_meta.txt what is the interpretation of game_time? Is it seconds, and is it real-time seconds or game-time seconds? |
| 09:31 |
Astrobe |
Cleaning up the legacy stuff is a painful job that doesn't pay well. |
| 09:33 |
Krock |
seconds of how long the world is online |
| 09:33 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/9537cfd3f8264700619f58d15741829489e1099e/src/serverenvironment.cpp#L1195-L1200 |
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Krock |
* of how long the world was online in total |
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Astrobe |
Thanks. |
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Astrobe |
day_count seems to be broken on 0.4.17. I have improbable values on all worlds I have created. |
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Krock |
day_count = 28 |
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Krock |
one of my 0.4.17.1 worlds.. works fine |
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Astrobe |
Maybe that's specific to the Windows 64 version? |
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Krock |
*shrug* |
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ChimneySwift |
Huh... Good catch. My 0.4.17.1 Win64 server has that issue... Just created a new world and day_count=1414287431. Lol |
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ChimneySwift |
game_time=10 |
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Astrobe |
Yet the code seems clean. I would look for undefined behavior related to some missing initialization. |
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Astrobe |
I don't see a way to restrict toolrepair to a specific tool, so I guess I could make cooking recipes to salvage an ingot from a worn tool. |
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Astrobe |
Hmmm... That would just be the same as the tool costing one less ingot, if the player is careful enough not to break it. |
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Astrobe |
But I could for instance specify large cooking times, so this adds an extra drawback. |
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ChimneySwift |
How can you not limit it to just one tool? |
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ChimneySwift |
If you have something like the anvil to fix it it should be easy. |
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Astrobe |
Indeed that could another option. Just have to butcher yet another existing mod. |
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Astrobe |
I'm intriged by bosapara's anvil mod: he uses override_item to add a field in the groups table, without refering to the original table; |
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Astrobe |
He does groups={weapons=1} in override_item. I don't expect it to add the field to the original groups table. |
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Astrobe |
Oh, wait. I was looking at core.override_item(), not minetest.override_item(). |
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Krock |
it's identical |
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Astrobe |
Then I don't think that example in the wiki is correct: https://dev.minetest.net/minetest.override_item |
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Krock |
it's correct |
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Astrobe |
I don't get it. |
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Astrobe |
!c local test={foo={bar=1}} rawset(test, "foo", {wiz=2}) print(test.foo.bar) |
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MinetestBot |
SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1) |
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Astrobe |
!c 'local test={foo={bar=1}} rawset(test, "foo", {wiz=2}) print(test.foo.bar)' |
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MinetestBot |
'local test={foo={bar=1}} rawset(test, "foo", {wiz=2}) print(test.foo.bar)' |
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rubenwardy |
; |
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rubenwardy |
.also |
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rubenwardy |
MTB only does python |
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Astrobe |
lol |
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rubenwardy |
Also, the example will delete all groups then add only one |
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Astrobe |
Anyway that prints nil |
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Astrobe |
Yeah. |
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Krock |
there's probably a Lua CLI installed -> "lua" or "luajit" |
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Astrobe |
There's a "try lua online" on Lua's official site; I copy/pasted from there. |
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Astrobe |
The wiki is technically correct, but in practice wiping out all groups is usually not what you want. |
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Astrobe |
That would make the anvil mod so utterly broken that I don't believe it is. There must be a trick somewhere else. |
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Krock |
local old_groups = minetest.registered_items[name].groups |
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Krock |
old_groups.newgroup = 1 |
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Krock |
then overwrite with old_groups |
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Astrobe |
Yeah, something like that. But it's not what he is doing. |
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kris2b |
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rubenwardy |
salut |
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rubenwardy |
ca va? |
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rubenwardy |
#minetest-fr |
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ça va bien, merci. kthxbai |
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qzo |
Is there any particular reason I haven't been able to find tin after playing the game for a significant period of time? |
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rubenwardy |
!iki tin |
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rubenwardy |
!wiki tin |
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MinetestBot |
No such page. |
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rubenwardy |
:( |
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rubenwardy |
!wiki tin_ore |
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MinetestBot |
No such page. |
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rubenwardy |
https://wiki.minetest.net/Tin_Ore |
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ChimneySwift |
Tin only spawns quite low iirc. You probably need to mine deeper. |
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qzo |
really |
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rubenwardy |
are you looking below -128? |
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qzo |
It says -128 |
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qzo |
I am |
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rubenwardy |
"it can be found at a height of Y=-32 or lower and is more common at Y=-128 or below. " |
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rubenwardy |
idk then |
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ChimneySwift |
Hm |
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qzo |
I have found copper, gold, and diamonds |
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qzo |
no tin tho |
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sfan5 |
easy answer: your game is too old |
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Krock |
qzo: Is Tintin listed in your inventory? |
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qzo |
sfan5: how old is too old? I am using the package from the debian repos which is 0.4.13 |
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qzo |
which is a bit older |
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qzo |
but it has copper |
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Krock |
that's like two years to old |
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qzo |
oh lmao |
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Krock |
or three years? not sure |
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qzo |
so do I need to update my server and my client? |
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qzo |
both are just using the debian packages |
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rubenwardy |
more like 3 years |
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Krock |
in theory only the machine which hosts the game |
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sfan5 |
qzo: server will suffice, but doing both is a good idea |
| 20:57 |
Krock |
but update both while you're at it |
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Krock |
aagh ninjas |
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rubenwardy |
will the PPA work on debian? |
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rubenwardy |
the builds say ubuntu |
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rubenwardy |
https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable |
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qzo |
what is the current revision? |
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rubenwardy |
ah ubuntu |
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rubenwardy |
0.4.17.1 |
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qzo |
rubenwardy: I can just wget the deb probably |
| 20:58 |
rubenwardy |
probably |
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Krock |
Compiling Yourself (TM) always works |
| 20:58 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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rubenwardy |
!c 17+1-13 |
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MinetestBot |
5 |
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rubenwardy |
5 versions behind |
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rubenwardy |
@_ |
| 20:58 |
rubenwardy |
:) |
| 20:59 |
notanewbie |
? |
| 20:59 |
Krock |
indeed, almost three years. 0.4.13 was released in August 2015 |
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qzo |
building now |
| 20:59 |
qzo |
haha |
| 20:59 |
qzo |
I did not know it was so old |
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qzo |
I wonder if there where many changes |
| 21:00 |
Krock |
ubuntu 16.04 is also sitting on that release IIRC |
| 21:00 |
Krock |
qzo: only about 2500 changes |
| 21:00 |
qzo |
this compiles pretty quikcly |
| 21:00 |
Krock |
make -j5 ? (assuming quad core) |
| 21:01 |
qzo |
who is the maintainer of the debian package? maybe we should get that updated |
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qzo |
Krock: I have two Xeon X5675 6 cores |
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qzo |
although GCC/G++ doesn't use my threads very well |
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sfan5 |
qzo: debian likes keeping packages outdated in the name of "stability" |
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Krock |
they're afraid killing the dinosaurs by updating the world history which includes the "meteorite" package |
| 21:03 |
sfan5 |
last debian release has 0.4.15 |
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sfan5 |
backports contains 0.4.17 |
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notanewbie |
Does anyone know how to get rid of those annoying error messages in Minetest: Pocket Edition? |
| 21:04 |
Krock |
so it's only Ubuntu/xenial which is far behind https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/minetest |
| 21:05 |
Krock |
notanewbie: please don't paste them here (just to make sure) |
| 21:05 |
notanewbie |
I won't |
| 21:05 |
notanewbie |
But it says something about invalid numbers |
| 21:05 |
notanewbie |
It's actually rather short |
| 21:05 |
rubenwardy |
GL_INVALID_ENUM |
| 21:05 |
Krock |
iCCP errors? |
| 21:06 |
notanewbie |
rubenwardy: yep |
| 21:06 |
Krock |
downgrade Android to 5.0 :D |
| 21:06 |
notanewbie |
What??? |
| 21:06 |
Krock |
it's a solution - but not the one you want. |
| 21:06 |
notanewbie |
Hmm... |
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notanewbie |
Is this the only way? |
| 21:06 |
Krock |
we are already well aware about this issue but there is yet no patch for it |
| 21:07 |
notanewbie |
Okay |
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notanewbie |
Is there any other known fix? |
| 21:07 |
Krock |
#7525 |
| 21:07 |
Krock |
ShadowBot: |
| 21:07 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7525 |
| 21:09 |
qzo |
anyone seen this build error before? |
| 21:09 |
MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Clarify entity 'initial_properties' and related deprecat… bf45644 https://git.io/fN2sE (2018-07-29T21:07:55Z) |
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qzo |
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so: undefined reference to `drmGetDevice2' |
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rubenwardy |
no lol |
| 21:10 |
Krock |
library mismatch |
| 21:10 |
sfan5 |
your GL libraries depend on libdrm but don't link to it |
| 21:10 |
rubenwardy |
did you use the one line compile script? |
| 21:10 |
paramat |
"Minetest: Pocket Edition" |
| 21:10 |
qzo |
I just ran the cmake and then make |
| 21:10 |
notanewbie |
Yeah Krock I went to the issue but no one was that helpful |
| 21:11 |
Krock |
paramat: glad I'm not the only who was triggered by that |
| 21:11 |
notanewbie |
??? |
| 21:11 |
paramat |
=) |
| 21:11 |
Krock |
notanewbie: yes, that's also why I said that there's no patch for it yet. Myself, I cannot even reproduce this issue -- Android 5.0 here, no updates |
| 21:12 |
notanewbie |
I'm on Android 8.1...do I seriously have to downgrade to 5??? |
| 21:12 |
notanewbie |
I don't even know what release that is... Jelly Bean??? |
| 21:14 |
Krock |
sorry, my fault. * cannot reproduce it on 6.0, since it was one major release below the one reported in the issue |
| 21:14 |
Krock |
I'm not telling you to downgrade for the sake of a bug in a game |
| 21:14 |
notanewbie |
I know ? |
| 21:15 |
qzo |
wow 4.17 is way better |
| 21:15 |
qzo |
this is fantastic |
| 21:15 |
notanewbie |
? |
| 21:15 |
notanewbie |
Welcome to 2018 |
| 21:16 |
Krock |
take the chance to try out 5.0.0-dev. testers and contributors are very welcome :) |
| 21:17 |
qzo |
I will take a look |
| 21:17 |
notanewbie |
Krock: has someone built it for Android? |
| 21:17 |
qzo |
did you all work on the netcode issue that prevents connection using NAT reflection? |
| 21:17 |
Krock |
yes sure. There are (almost) daily builds |
| 21:17 |
qzo |
If not I might look into that, I know a lot of CPP networking and socket stuff |
| 21:19 |
Krock |
err. The daily builds which I had in mind are for OS X/MacOS |
| 21:19 |
notanewbie |
Oh okay |
| 21:19 |
notanewbie |
Yeah I knew about those |
| 21:19 |
Krock |
notanewbie: here's a rather recent one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=316739#p316739 |
| 21:20 |
Krock |
alternative testing build (about same age) https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7126#issuecomment-380381620 |
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Krock |
I'm pretty sure the GL errors will also appear there - would be luck if that's not the case |
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notanewbie |
It says error parsing package |
| 21:23 |
Krock |
qzo: our network expert is currently busy - so I doubt anyone has looked much into it yet |
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Krock |
s/busy/away/ |
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qzo |
so here is a question, if I have an existing world that has not generated any tin, do I have to start a new world for that to take place? |
| 21:25 |
qzo |
Or will it proceedurally generate in? |
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paramat |
it will generate in new areas |
| 21:25 |
paramat |
in an existing world |
| 21:26 |
qzo |
fantastic |
| 21:26 |
qzo |
thank you for the tips |
| 21:26 |
Krock |
/deleteblocks here |
| 21:26 |
Krock |
wipes the current area |
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Krock |
(and ofc re-generates it afterwards) |
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notanewbie |
So I just switched to a Dev build of 0.4.16 |
| 21:32 |
notanewbie |
The good news is, no more error |
| 21:32 |
notanewbie |
The bad news is, single player crashes before it loads |
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notanewbie |
Multiplayer does work though |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Boats, carts mods: Use 'initial_properties' table c284e52 https://git.io/fN2CB (2018-07-29T23:32:18Z) |
