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jas_ |
!server |
| 08:45 |
MinetestBot |
jas_: Metis - Tutorial | metis2.duckdns.org:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.16 / tutorial | Ping: 14ms |
| 08:45 |
jas_ |
!server jas0 |
| 08:45 |
MinetestBot |
jas_: jas0 | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 1/15, 0/2 | Version: 5.0.0-dev / minetest | Ping: 129ms |
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| 08:48 |
VanessaE |
bah, just play on my servers. they're all you need :) |
| 08:49 |
jas_ |
ha it's funny b/c my daughter asked if i had to choose between quake and minetest, and i said minetest because i can play it alone |
| 08:49 |
jas_ |
then she asked between minecraft and minetest and i said minetest because of the sneak glitch |
| 08:49 |
jas_ |
lol |
| 08:49 |
jas_ |
"and that's all i need" |
| 08:50 |
Quiark |
i think the time has come |
| 08:50 |
Quiark |
to ask what is the sneak glitch |
| 08:55 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 08:55 |
VanessaE |
that subject is taboo here. |
| 08:57 |
VanessaE |
ok ok. it's a bug-turned-feature that causes you to jump a bit higher than normal if you sneak at the same time (usually shift+space). It can be used to scale walls that are properly prepared, without a ladder |
| 08:57 |
rubenwardy |
The sneak glitch is a bug which created useful behaviour. The glitch allowed you to climb nodes by holding sneak, and to create sneak elevators - a structure of nodes you could climb faster than a ladder |
| 08:58 |
rubenwardy |
The bug was fixed by rewriting move. It was than readded as a coded feature |
| 08:58 |
rubenwardy |
The bug in bug form allowed you to avoid fall damage |
| 08:59 |
rubenwardy |
The new move is hated by some older players for being less fun |
| 08:59 |
sfan5 |
nitpick: it wasn't readded, it was kept as an option during the rewrite |
| 09:01 |
VanessaE |
didn't....I just say all of that? :P |
| 09:02 |
Quiark |
aah |
| 09:02 |
jas_ |
it appears the collisionbox feature of 0.5.0-dev affected the physical=true player property, and i feel the sneakjump behavior is slightly different in mt5 |
| 09:02 |
jas_ |
at least i get better framerates? idk |
| 09:02 |
jas_ |
!server VanessaE |
| 09:02 |
MinetestBot |
jas_: No results |
| 09:02 |
rubenwardy |
Pretty sure it was a reimplementation by scanning nodes? |
| 09:03 |
rubenwardy |
Well, guess I remembered wrong |
| 09:03 |
rubenwardy |
There's an option to choose between old and new move |
| 09:03 |
jas_ |
all i know is my sneak_jump mod is different in 0.4.16 and it uses physical=true in the github repo... i commented it out on this server |
| 09:03 |
rubenwardy |
There's also an option to enable the feature in new move |
| 09:03 |
VanessaE |
jas_: my servers are in their reboot cycle right now |
| 09:03 |
jas_ |
mine is newmove on/sneak jump off by default; you have to hold 'Use' (sprint) to enable newmove/sneakglitch |
| 09:04 |
VanessaE |
they'll be back up in about 5 minutes. |
| 09:04 |
jas_ |
i mean oldmove/sneakjump (confusing sometimes heh) |
| 09:06 |
jas_ |
...and on my server you can eat your bones |
| 09:07 |
VanessaE |
um....ew. |
| 09:07 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 09:07 |
jas_ |
yep, plus it features a ton of lag. i should make papyrus edible |
| 09:07 |
Shara |
I found the approach of using it on sprint too annoying.... For me, old sneak is all about having more control and careful precise movement, which doesn't really work with sprinting :P |
| 09:07 |
jas_ |
works for me, it's the only way i like to play tbh. |
| 09:08 |
jas_ |
but i play ESDF not WASD |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
sneak + jump + sprint all together is useful on sloped terrain |
| 09:08 |
Shara |
So you designed a totally custome and unique movement style then :P |
| 09:08 |
jas_ |
god help me if i can ever right click to jump smh |
| 09:08 |
Shara |
There are times I use it when sprinting... just tapping shift to get a boost over things, but I'd hate to "need" to sprint to use it |
| 09:09 |
jas_ |
it's part of the 'survival' aspect in that the sprint meter is based on the hunger meter |
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jas_ |
so if you're hungry u cannot sprint |
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VanessaE |
ah, none of my servers use that |
| 09:09 |
Shara |
That part is fine, but why should I need that to use old sneak? |
| 09:09 |
jas_ |
versus new sneak ? |
| 09:09 |
jas_ |
i tried it a few times, it's not the same |
| 09:09 |
Shara |
That seems to be how you are saying it works? |
| 09:10 |
jas_ |
i'll take the fall damage avoidance bad with the awesome movement physics good |
| 09:10 |
jas_ |
newmove's sneak jump is not as good as oldmove sneak jump |
| 09:10 |
jas_ |
imho |
| 09:10 |
Shara |
I didn't care about the fall damage either way, but did want the rest. For me it's mostly the controls though. |
| 09:10 |
Shara |
If I release shift, I want to fall. |
| 09:10 |
jas_ |
i usually get fall damage anyway, or just try not to cheat (usually). i have shift as sprint, z as sneak |
| 09:11 |
jas_ |
esdf, and space to jump (grr) |
| 09:11 |
jas_ |
w inventory heh |
| 09:11 |
jas_ |
txcvargb for the 8 item slots |
| 09:11 |
jas_ |
(enter for chat, y for infirange) |
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jas_ |
oh and alt is zoom, and 1 is minimap... |
| 09:16 |
jas_ |
and keyboard on lap, with giant mousepad and low sensitivity |
| 09:16 |
VanessaE |
the only custom key I have set is E == descend/aux. because my hand can't hit shift easily, and I'm used to it. |
| 09:17 |
VanessaE |
!server VanessaE |
| 09:17 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: VanessaE's Nostalgia Server | daconcepts.com:30002 | Clients: 0/50, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / mt_nostalgia | Ping: 8ms |
| 09:17 |
jas_ |
nice |
| 09:17 |
VanessaE |
oh fine, show the lame one. |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
probably because that one almost always comes back up first after the morning backupcycle ends |
| 09:19 |
jas_ |
!server VanessaE |
| 09:19 |
MinetestBot |
jas_: VanessaE's Dreambuilder survival Server | daconcepts.com:30001 | Clients: 0/50, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / minetest | Ping: 7ms |
| 09:20 |
VanessaE |
I run five of 'em, plus I host one or two more for others. |
| 09:20 |
jas_ |
they were some of the first i ever tried, and i always had dreambuilder around |
| 09:21 |
VanessaE |
best servers in the community imho ;) |
| 09:22 |
jas_ |
ha, i'd have to agree but i only ever once asked an admin for permission to play on a server before, and it wasnt a great experience |
| 09:22 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 09:22 |
jas_ |
that was honestly the reason i made a server, because i didnt wanna ask permission to play on the servers, which was very common i dunno about now |
| 09:22 |
jas_ |
what five years ago? or less |
| 09:22 |
VanessaE |
well mine just have a simple rules+keyword screen. get through that and you're in. :) |
| 09:23 |
jas_ |
yes i like that a lot better, that came later tho i think. at the time u had to find someone online i think |
| 09:23 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 09:24 |
VanessaE |
the trend in traffic over the past couple weeks has been encouraging, at least. |
| 09:25 |
jas_ |
that's good. i wonder what troubles currently plague the android version. i think the way of the keyboard and mouse aren't long for this world, at least the mouse. trackpads these days i guess |
| 09:26 |
VanessaE |
oh no |
| 09:26 |
VanessaE |
you can take my mouse from me after I'm gone :P |
| 09:26 |
jas_ |
hahaha yep. they're the best part! |
| 09:27 |
jas_ |
the cutest part anyway, but they're peripheral more than the keyboard i think. i have a trackpad on this wireless keyboard i'm typing on. |
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Parakush |
hello all |
| 15:19 |
Parakush |
been pouring over docs and can't seem to tame/mount a horse, using the main addon listed for horses but can't seem to get it |
| 15:19 |
Parakush |
end up killing the damn things |
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rubenwardy |
mobs redo? |
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Parakush |
yeah |
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calcul0n |
Parakush, feed it with wheat to tame it (feed it until you see hearts), then put a saddle on it to mount |
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calcul0n |
you need an extra mod to be able to mount, mobs_mount or something like that |
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Parakush |
finally got to the point where i can mount it |
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Parakush |
tried applying horseshoes |
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Parakush |
and it either doesnt work.. or it kills the horse |
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Parakush |
(left click kills, right click does nothing) |
| 16:17 |
Parakush |
tried mounted and dismounted |
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calcul0n |
i never needed the horseshoes but the tooltip says use on horse to apply |
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calcul0n |
maybe try the use key? |
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calcul0n |
(E by default) |
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Parakush |
will do, thanks |
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ManilaMan |
Is this still active? |
| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
depends on your definition of "active" |
| 19:22 |
paramat |
and "this" |
| 19:23 |
ManilaMan |
Well, last time I played Minetest was 2 or 3 years ago. I was wondering if it will be worth it if I jump right back into the game |
| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
!server players:most |
| 19:23 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Blocky Survival | mt.packets4hire.com:30005 | Clients: 22/50, 20/22 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / minetest_game_modified | Ping: 89ms |
| 19:23 |
paramat |
MT and MTGame are much improved since then |
| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
hmm only 22 |
| 19:24 |
ManilaMan |
does MT have a Discord I can join? |
| 19:24 |
paramat |
yeah |
| 19:24 |
ManilaMan |
What's the link/name |
| 19:25 |
sfan5 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18636 this one probably |
| 19:25 |
ManilaMan |
Cool, thanks a lot ? |
| 19:26 |
swift110 |
hey all |
| 19:27 |
ManilaMan |
Wow, so it's still active I see |
| 19:27 |
swift110 |
yes why wouldnt it be |
| 19:27 |
swift110 |
good to see you ManilaMan |
| 19:28 |
swift110 |
I am on discord as well maybe I will see you there |
| 19:28 |
ManilaMan |
I just assumed. It's been years |
| 19:28 |
ManilaMan |
Heya, swift110 |
| 19:28 |
ManilaMan |
Yeah, I just joined the Discord so I'm the new guy in the lounge |
| 19:30 |
paramat |
serching the forum there seems to be several MT discord servers, not sure which is the most active one, but there is an active one somewhere |
| 19:30 |
swift110 |
ok |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
There's one main one |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
The discord |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
The rest only have a few people in it |
| 19:35 |
swift110 |
ok |
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swift110 |
so where is the main oe |
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Sketch2 |
When you use minetest.get_timeofday() in a CSM, does it poll the server, or just return the value that your local machine has? |
| 21:05 |
sfan5 |
the latter |
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Sketch2 |
IIRC, normally your device polls the server every 20 seconds or so. just wondering if the command actually sends out another request, 'cuz I don't wanna spam the server. ok, ty |
| 21:06 |
sfan5 |
the server actually send you the time of day at fixed intervals |
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Sketch2 |
cool, was pretty sure it was something like that. |
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rubenwardy |
Server Link |
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rubenwardy |
https://discord.gg/Wr6eXU3 |
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