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scr267 |
rubenwardy: Thanks for the response. I'll be back in a moment. |
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scr267 |
rubenwardy: I'm using the latest version of the client, and running the latest stable version of the server, cloned from git and compiled. |
| 01:52 |
rubenwardy |
udpated mineteat_game too? |
| 01:53 |
scr267 |
as I posted earlier it's all based on the tag stable-0.4 |
| 01:53 |
scr267 |
Only one thing that could be an issue that I can think of. |
| 01:54 |
scr267 |
The server itself has a pre-packaged version of minetest installed, so there is a minetest_game version installed in /usr/share/... somewhere. |
| 01:54 |
scr267 |
But when I compiled, I git cloned minetest_game... The only issue really is... how can I tell which files the server is using? |
| 01:56 |
scr267 |
Obviously I start the server using the compiled binary, passing it options to load the world, the minetest.conf file, and etc... |
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jas_ |
lol krock saying 5.0 release years away. scr267 maybe this is no help but did u consider -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 ? |
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p_gimeno |
scr267: strace -e trace=open -f minetest |
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p_gimeno |
that tells you all the files it opens, but prepare for a lot of output. Might consider using option -o of strace, to output to a file. |
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jluc |
hello |
| 11:55 |
jluc |
we have 2 minetest 5.0.0-dev versions runing on a local network |
| 11:56 |
jluc |
but when trying to connect, the client get the error "access denied, wrong client version" (or so) |
| 11:56 |
jluc |
previously (until about one month ago) it was ok and we havent changed anything localy |
| 11:59 |
sfan5 |
upgrade them both |
| 11:59 |
jluc |
you mean 2 5.0.0-dev versions can be not compatible ???? |
| 12:00 |
sfan5 |
of course, this is a development version after all |
| 12:00 |
jluc |
pfffff |
| 12:00 |
jluc |
ok thanks |
| 12:28 |
jluc |
all 2 installas are uptodate |
| 12:28 |
jluc |
how can i get the detailed revision ? |
| 12:29 |
jluc |
not compatible revisions should at least trigger some z change in the version number |
| 12:29 |
jluc |
even when not considered as stable |
| 12:30 |
jluc |
How can i know the detailed revision # ? |
| 12:31 |
jluc |
201807191105 on ubuntu 18.04 |
| 12:33 |
jluc |
more recent on lubuntu 16.04 |
| 12:37 |
jluc |
"The version number of the package is compile date; please check your actual version in-game." |
| 12:43 |
jluc |
it looks like there is NO bionic minetest version !! |
| 12:43 |
jluc |
https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds doesnt propose anything for bionic |
| 12:43 |
jluc |
when bionic is the current last stable ubuntu LTS version |
| 12:44 |
jluc |
how is that possible ? |
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VanessaE |
just compile it from source, jeez :P |
| 12:46 |
jluc |
:-/ |
| 12:46 |
jluc |
nope sorry |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
why? it's simple to do. |
| 12:46 |
jluc |
too many computers to manage, i cant install a compile env in each |
| 12:47 |
jluc |
and debug make issues in each |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
yes you can :P |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
or build once, then deploy to all :P |
| 12:47 |
jluc |
different envs |
| 12:47 |
jluc |
diffeernt issues in each softwares, each envs, etc |
| 12:47 |
jluc |
no more a game |
| 12:48 |
VanessaE |
then stop trying to use 5.0, it ain't ready yet. |
| 12:48 |
jluc |
i realize that |
| 12:48 |
jluc |
but i guess my children will loose their worlds when reverting to 4 |
| 12:48 |
VanessaE |
why would they? |
| 12:48 |
VanessaE |
map format is unchanged afaik? |
| 12:49 |
jluc |
you know better than me |
| 12:49 |
jluc |
funny that november 5 version is not compatible with august 5 version |
| 12:49 |
VanessaE |
it's dev |
| 12:49 |
VanessaE |
it ain't done. |
| 12:49 |
jluc |
but 5 version maps are compatible with 4 versions |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
0.4* |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
and yeah, as far as I know. |
| 12:50 |
VanessaE |
but that's immaterial :P |
| 12:53 |
VanessaE |
you miss the critical bit: august vs. november "version"? there IS no version yet. |
| 12:54 |
VanessaE |
5.0.0-dev just means when it's released, it'll be 5.0.0 as of that moment. until then, it's just git from this-or-that date |
| 12:55 |
VanessaE |
git master that is. |
| 12:59 |
Krock |
"-dev" in the version name means that it's A) officially unstable and B) that it might break anything |
| 12:59 |
VanessaE |
exactl |
| 12:59 |
VanessaE |
y |
| 12:59 |
Krock |
my two cents for jluc |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
bottom line, if you want predictable version compat, go back to 0.4. |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
.x* |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
wait until an official release before going to 5.0.xc |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
-c |
| 13:08 |
jluc |
craftguide not compatible anymore |
| 13:08 |
jluc |
unifieddye same |
| 13:09 |
jluc |
protector |
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jluc |
pipeworks |
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jluc |
moreores |
| 13:10 |
jluc |
hmm something wrong somewher |
| 13:10 |
jluc |
it looks like no mods is compatible with 0.4 |
| 13:11 |
jluc |
Gosh no "un-activate all mods" button |
| 13:12 |
ChimneySwift |
literally all of those mods work on 0.4, looks like a problem elsewhere |
| 13:12 |
Krock |
^ |
| 13:13 |
Krock |
using them here in my singleplayer world too - no problems so far while using them in 0.4.17.1 and 5.0.0-dev (symlinks) |
| 13:16 |
jluc |
all mods unactivated, but it still tries to call some mods-functions |
| 13:16 |
jluc |
when launched |
| 13:16 |
jluc |
with an existing world |
| 13:16 |
jluc |
it runs ok with a new world |
| 13:16 |
jluc |
well... |
| 13:18 |
VanessaE |
all of my mods are built against 0.4.17.1 |
| 13:19 |
jluc |
my son cries now |
| 13:20 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 13:20 |
Krock |
i cri too |
| 13:21 |
VanessaE |
jluc: look, you screwed up. big deal. just start over (aside from keeping your world maps) |
| 13:21 |
Krock |
hint: If you would upload the last relevant lines from your debug.txt file we could actually try to help you |
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BurningPrincess |
Where can I go for Minetest support? |
| 14:00 |
BurningPrincess |
Where can I go for Minetest support? |
| 14:01 |
BurningPrincess |
A user in my channel has problems with her Minetest and I am not sure where to direct her |
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calcul0n |
this is the right place BurningPrincess |
| 14:04 |
calcul0n |
or try the forum if you don't get an answer here |
| 14:04 |
BurningPrincess |
Thank you calcul0n |
| 14:05 |
BurningPrincess |
Is the problems forum the right onbe to ask in for supported? |
| 14:08 |
calcul0n |
i guess yes, but it looks like the website is down for now |
| 14:08 |
srifqi |
Yes. Post your problems in Problem subforum. |
| 14:09 |
BurningPrincess |
Thanks |
| 14:09 |
srifqi |
Forum is up. |
| 14:09 |
VanessaE |
forum.minetest.net is up. |
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calcul0n |
hmm, strange, i get a "server not found" |
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VanessaE |
must be dns issues or so. |
| 14:23 |
Krock |
either that or the IP has been blocked for DDoS reasons |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
sssssshhhhhhhhhh |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
don't say that word |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
you'll summon You Know Who |
| 14:23 |
Krock |
IP? |
| 14:23 |
Krock |
the Doctor Who, I hope |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
no, DDoS :P |
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Fulgen |
Doctor Who? |
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scr267 |
So I did a git pull on minetest_game stable-0.4 and copied the creative mod to the .minetest/mods game folder and activated it. It's overridden the old mod... It shall do as a temporary measure until I recompile the whole thing. Thanks for all the tips! |
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guest1234 |
Hi. Is there a command to stop the rain? |
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guest1234 |
This is Mine Clone 2. Maybe there is no rain in the default game? |
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Krock |
check out "/help" |
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Krock |
and "/help cmd" |
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gunchyo |
Hello, I am just having issue with some mods loading. I have named them the proper mod name in the folder, but they don't appear to be loading... |
| 16:40 |
gunchyo |
I am also wondering if it's possible to do borderless fullscreen, where I can alt-tab out of the window |
| 16:41 |
gunchyo |
thank you |
| 16:42 |
Krock |
..did you enable them? |
| 16:42 |
Krock |
> fullscreen = true |
| 16:42 |
Krock |
not sure if that's borderless |
| 16:42 |
gunchyo |
Yes they are enabled, that makes it fullscreen but I can't alt-tab. I also can't provide any input when the map loads |
| 16:42 |
guest1234 |
Is the game always saved when you turn it off? |
| 16:43 |
gunchyo |
I can't quit either, can't open menus so I have to change to a different TTY and pkill minetest |
| 16:44 |
gunchyo |
disregard that, I can provide input |
| 16:44 |
Krock |
guest1234: if it doesn't crash: yes. |
| 16:44 |
guest1234 |
Krock: Thanks. Does it crash often? |
| 16:44 |
Krock |
gunchyo: never used that mode here tbh.. maybe there's already an issue about it |
| 16:45 |
Krock |
guest1234: depends how often you play |
| 16:45 |
gunchyo |
Krock, seems fine now. let me try something |
| 16:45 |
guest1234 |
Not very often. |
| 16:45 |
gunchyo |
also, I found an entrance to a dungeon? mossy cobblestone, but idk how to get further |
| 16:45 |
Krock |
pickage |
| 16:46 |
Krock |
*pickaxe |
| 16:46 |
gunchyo |
So dig down? |
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gunchyo |
the wiki entry for Dungeons is non-existant |
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gunchyo |
https://wiki.minetest.net/Biomes#Dungeons |
| 16:56 |
gunchyo |
krock, do you use CraftGuide? That is one I'm confused |
| 16:56 |
gunchyo |
it also seems like the world is very empty of mobs even though I have mob packs installed |
| 16:57 |
Krock |
did you enable the mobs? |
| 16:57 |
gunchyo |
yes |
| 16:57 |
gunchyo |
animals_modpack |
| 16:58 |
Krock |
sounds old |
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gunchyo |
ok it looks like it works |
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gunchyo |
I just don't know where to get the crafting guide |
| 17:08 |
gunchyo |
are there newer mods Krock? |
| 17:10 |
Ruslan1 |
Anyone know remove dark side in my server |
| 17:17 |
gunchyo |
When I connect to Multiplayer server, how does the server know the username I use is me |
| 17:17 |
gunchyo |
is there a hash or something attached to the username? based on IP? |
| 17:19 |
Hawk777 |
gunchyo: the first time you log in, you can choose any name you want; every time after that, if you want to use the same username, you have to use the same password |
| 17:19 |
Hawk777 |
So a username is bound to the password only on that particular server, not globally. |
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gunchyo |
does the server make a password, or do I Put one in the password field |
| 17:20 |
Hawk777 |
You enter it in the password field. |
| 17:20 |
gunchyo |
before connecting |
| 17:20 |
gunchyo |
and server gets a hash |
| 17:20 |
gunchyo |
? |
| 17:20 |
Hawk777 |
The first time you connect to a particular server with a particular username, you can put anything there. If you connect to the same server with the same username again, you have to use the same password. |
| 17:20 |
Hawk777 |
I don’t know the details of the protocol. |
| 17:21 |
gunchyo |
cool, thanks for the info |
| 17:23 |
gunchyo |
should I use git builds or stable builds? |
| 17:25 |
Hawk777 |
I’ve generally been happy using the latest release. But, I guess some people want everything right away, or want to test things, or help develop. |
| 17:26 |
gunchyo |
seems one server wants 0.5.0 |
| 17:27 |
Krock |
I can set up the museum server again if you want to test 5.0.0-dev |
| 17:27 |
gunchyo |
no it's ok |
| 17:28 |
gunchyo |
ESM5 seems to only want 0.5.0 |
| 17:28 |
gunchyo |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18879&sid=3fd7ace9434817b8e45232e19d654818 |
| 17:33 |
Krock |
!up ente.kak.si 34617 |
| 17:33 |
MinetestBot |
ente.kak.si:34617 seems to be down |
| 17:34 |
Krock |
!up ente.kak.si 34617 |
| 17:34 |
MinetestBot |
ente.kak.si:34617 seems to be down |
| 17:34 |
Krock |
*waits for DNS update* |
| 17:40 |
gunchyo |
is there a way to see list of connected players |
| 17:55 |
Krock |
http://servers.minetest.net/ |
| 17:55 |
Krock |
and /status |
| 17:58 |
p_gimeno |
Is this a fair description of the "caverns" mgv7_spflags setting? It's for the wiki. "This enables the creation of caves with very large rooms, also called caverns. There's typically no lava or water in or near them." |
| 18:01 |
p_gimeno |
I'll go with that, somebody please correct me later if wrong |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
yes sure |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
!mod test |
| 18:09 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: MAPP - map for Minetest - optimized! by 4aiman - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4922 |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
uh |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
alright |
| 18:09 |
Krock |
o/ |
| 18:10 |
Krock |
according to the last commit, the next domain change will come in 2020 |
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p_gimeno |
4aiman... heh, that's a frequent user of the love2d forums now |
| 18:16 |
Krock |
haven't seen them in a while |
| 18:16 |
Krock |
were most actively in Freeminer before the big silence |
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tobag |
hi |
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Ruslan1 |
Hi |
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tobag |
Edgy1? |
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tobag |
.-. |
| 20:41 |
tobag |
is this irc |
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tobag |
hi |
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tobag |
umm.. |
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tobag |
xd |
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Ruslan1 |
Yes |
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tobag |
... |
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tobag |
edgy1? |
| 20:46 |
Edgy1 |
hello? |
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Edgy1 |
why am this is freenode |
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Edgy1 |
ops |
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Edgy1 |
this is freenode* |
| 20:47 |
tobag |
ME is bageys |
| 20:47 |
Edgy1 |
why are you on freenodeeee |
| 20:47 |
tobag |
XD |
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tobag |
idk |
| 20:47 |
Edgy1 |
the channel isnt on freenode lol |
| 20:47 |
Edgy1 |
ill pm u. |
| 20:48 |
tobag |
im on |
| 20:48 |
tobag |
this will be the only time ill be om this.. |
| 20:52 |
Krock |
"ill" this sounds dangerous. Consider visiting a doctor soon |
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Edgy1 |
oi Krock |
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Edgy1 |
Krock, what happened to !mtmod |
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Krock |
Edgy1: duckduckgo doesn't update |
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tobag |
xD |
| 20:57 |
Edgy1 |
fun |
| 20:57 |
Krock |
new URL (since two months) https://krock-works.uk.to/minetest/modSearchAPI.php |
| 20:57 |
Edgy1 |
Krock, any progress so far? |
| 20:57 |
Edgy1 |
yeah i bookmarked that |
| 20:57 |
Krock |
sent a request to change it three times now |
| 20:57 |
Krock |
I guess they're deaf |
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tobag |
edgy1 its me bagey |
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Edgy1 |
i know |
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Edgy1 |
tobag, u cant follow instructions too well |
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Krock |
!mod |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: Too short search term. |
| 21:00 |
Krock |
^ was broken before. eh. fixed now |
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tobag |
...... |
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tobag |
:o |
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tobag |
..... |
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tobag |
yes ^-^ |
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paramat |
lol MT dev makes children cry ;) |
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tobag |
... |
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paramat |
tobag please stop spamming |
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tobag |
oml |
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paramat |
!tell p_gimeno that's somewhat ok for caverns but 'rooms' is a bad word. to distinguish from smaller caves maybe describe the size of the caverns as being hundreds of nodes? |
| 22:19 |
MinetestBot |
paramat: yeah, sure, whatever |
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paramat |
otherwise you might be temp banned, last warning |
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tobag |
who? |
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ChimneySwift |
you |
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tobag |
me? |
| 22:23 |
ChimneySwift |
yes |
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tobag |
? |
| 22:24 |
ChimneySwift |
how hard is it to comprehend >.> |
| 22:26 |
tobag |
>_< |
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tobag |
i'm new to irc. |
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rubenwardy |
this isn't an IRC thing, it's a not being annoying thing |
| 22:33 |
tobag |
huh? |
| 22:33 |
paramat |
no excuse, you've been sh*tposting for 2 hours now |
| 22:34 |
paramat |
please temp ban them |
| 22:34 |
tobag |
why |
| 22:35 |
tobag |
and be nice |
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tobag was kicked by rubenwardy: kick |
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paramat |
lol lit's like a poorly programmed spambot |
| 22:35 |
ChimneySwift |
just look a couple messages up and you'll find out why |
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tobag_ |
:/ |
| 22:38 |
paramat |
^ temp ban |
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paramat |
please can someone give me the ability to OP myself? i'm often on IRC when others aren't |
| 22:40 |
sfan5 |
why are you so obsessed with banning someone that apparently doesn't know better themselves? |
| 22:41 |
tobag_ |
im just a new player. jeez |
| 22:41 |
paramat |
temp banning, not obsessed. why are you defending them so strongly? see logs |
| 22:41 |
rubenwardy |
you already have OP in this channel, paramat, if you knew how to IRC |
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rubenwardy |
:) |
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tobag_ |
im a new player abd now you hate me wow |
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tobag_ |
and* |
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paramat |
the messages are so meaningless it's beyond forgivable |
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longerstaff13 |
tobag_: maybe lose the attitude a little? |
| 22:42 |
sfan5 |
paramat: the only thing I see in the logs is a confused newbie, maybe you can elaborate why you think this is a troll? |
| 22:42 |
paramat |
ruben ok thanks |
| 22:44 |
paramat |
i already have, it's intentional sh*tposting, even after polite requests, a warning and a kick |
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sfan5 |
it's honestly incomprehensible to me how you can assume intent so quickly when Minetest has a young audience, which often is prone to such behaviour |
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| 22:51 |
paramat |
it's borderline i know, but it went as bit too far, even after repeated requests. kick, returns, continues as before. however, i won't ask for temp ban now (it was only going to be a day) |
| 22:54 |
paramat |
and note it was ruben who kicked, not me, maybe you should argue with ruben too |
| 22:55 |
tobag |
Why should i |
| 22:57 |
paramat |
and several others are annoyed by it too |
| 22:58 |
paramat |
sh*tposting is not allowed, otherwise you are very welcome. and i don't hate you, just moderating the channel |
| 23:05 |
paramat |
tobag if it helps, the channel rules are here https://www.minetest.net/irc/ |
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paramat |
oooh |
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McFeels |
hello guys |
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Hawk777 |
On the IRC rules page: “Webchat cannot be used on #minetest-dev.” Also on the IRC rules page: a link to #minetest-dev in Webchat. Maybe someone should remove that? |
| 23:27 |
Hawk777 |
Although, the wiki version of the IRC rules says Webchat users can actually join the channel, just not talk. So, perhaps the text just needs clarifying. |
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