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jSnake |
Does anyone know why celeron55's work with converting MT to use Urho3D was ditched? |
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paramat |
it wasn't converting MT, it was a new project called 'buildat' |
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paramat |
i seem to remember he has stated why somewhere, something like 'ran into some issues, became lazy'? |
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jSnake |
hmm |
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jSnake |
what about this "The core dev that managed to abstract away Irrlicht and run Mt in ogre3d has quit Minetest." from forum post |
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paramat |
see http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2015-02-01#i_4138144 |
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paramat |
well c55 hasn't quit MT, he's just inactive |
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jSnake |
ruben mentioned some dev quit |
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jSnake |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=12997&start=25 |
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paramat |
if that even refers to c55 |
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jSnake |
don't think it was about c55 |
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paramat |
agreed |
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paramat |
ah Zeno, http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2015-11-06#i_4443257 |
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paramat |
Zeno did indeed leave MT |
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jSnake |
cool, thanks for the info paramat if you see this |
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scr267 |
p_gimeno: thanks |
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trom_ |
why vma:area:index(pos) where pos have xyz as zero give me ERR: voxelarea.lua:36: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'z' (a nil value) |
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paramat |
if you link to your code i'll take a look later |
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Nezrok |
Hello again. Is sban abandoned? I found a bug in it, but it doesn't seem to have been updated in a year or so |
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ANAND |
There were recent optimizations to sban, IIRC |
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ANAND |
...or was that sauth? |
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Astrobe |
Hi, some custom trees seem to spawn on top of plants, or their first trunk node is replaced by a plant. What can be the cause of this? |
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p_gimeno |
what plant? |
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p_gimeno |
and what trees |
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Astrobe |
Both are custom made, extracted from Farlands (for instance willow trees and giant grass) |
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p_gimeno |
sounds like the growing code has bugs then |
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Astrobe |
I have not seen it happen to default trees, so I'm suspecting a more "local" issue. Something like decoration registering order, or something about force_placement. |
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Astrobe |
Is there a command line parameter to force server announcement? I don't want it in minetest.conf because I'm often switching between a test world and a public world for the same game. |
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p_gimeno |
what I do in my server is have a different configuration file per world |
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rubenwardy |
you could use another config using --config |
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p_gimeno |
^ like that :) |
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Astrobe |
That should do it, thanks! |
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p_gimeno |
MT really needs a per-world configuration file. Curiously I can't find any open issue requesting it. |
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rubenwardy |
yes! |
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rubenwardy |
it's in my todo list |
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p_gimeno |
\o/ |
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makayabou |
when i refresh a formspec, label elements are updated but not field elements, what can I do for it? |
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makayabou |
do I need to use sfinv? can't legacy formspec handle this? |
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rubenwardy |
avoid implementing yet another inventory mod |
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rubenwardy |
the field elements should be updated, not sure why they wouldn't be |
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rubenwardy |
MT version/? |
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makayabou |
ah ok . so it has to be with my code so.. 5.0.1 |
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makayabou |
please correct me if i'm wrong : all i have to do to refresh form , is to call it again with minetest.show_formspec inside callback (minetest.register_on_player_receive_fields) ? |
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rubenwardy |
it depends |
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rubenwardy |
if this is from sfinv, then no |
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makayabou |
no, with classic formspec only |
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rubenwardy |
then yes |
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makayabou |
ok.. thank you very much |
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rubenwardy |
as long as it's not set_player_inventory_formspec or a node formspec, then it's fine |
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rubenwardy |
if it's the latter, then that callback isn't called anyway |
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makayabou |
yes, it's in a external basic formspec. I'll review my code and find what's wrong... |
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makayabou |
i don't really understand what happens.. I created a snippet to localize the functions but same behaviour, field does not update if change had not been validated. Here I have to ensure the value is a number, so when it's not, it should go back to the previous value... Here's snippet link : https://gitlab.com/garagenum/minetest_tools/lug9000/snippets/1851925 |
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rubenwardy |
if not formname:match("test_formspec") then --> if formname ~= "test_formspec" then |
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rubenwardy |
match uses Lua patterns, which is like regex |
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rubenwardy |
the type of myhp also changes |
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rubenwardy |
you should also include the mod name in the formname |
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rubenwardy |
modname:fsname |
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makayabou |
oh yes sorry . match was a dirty copy-paste from another match("^(mymod:formspec_type)) |
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makayabou |
and formspec name in snippet was just a quick write, I usually follow naming with modname:formname |
| 14:49 |
makayabou |
about myhp type, yes original value should be "16" because it's taken from Settings |
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makayabou |
and after I want it to be a number to check if it is between 1 and 16 |
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ANAND |
makayabou: Does the print statement print the correct value of myhp everytime? |
| 14:52 |
makayabou |
ANAND: yes |
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ANAND |
So myhp is being updated, but the field displays the old value? |
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makayabou |
that's it, and label element is being updated each time |
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ANAND |
Weird o_O |
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makayabou |
field displays the old value ONLY if I put a value in field that is NOT a number |
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ANAND |
o_O x2 |
| 14:57 |
makayabou |
if I put a number value, then field is updated as expected |
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ANAND |
Aha |
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makayabou |
that would be because the "new" value (that had been reset by callback) is the same than the initial value (first showed in field before hand-modification of field) |
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ANAND |
That's probably because passing a string to tonumber returns a nil, and myhp = fields.hp isn't executed |
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rubenwardy |
ah yeah |
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rubenwardy |
you need to add random strings |
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rubenwardy |
I had this issue |
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rubenwardy |
if the formspec is the same, it is discarded |
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makayabou |
yes that's it, let's try |
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ANAND |
Wait, what? |
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rubenwardy |
I did this by adding random spaces, I think |
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rubenwardy |
oh no I didn't |
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makayabou |
euh..let's try but how..? |
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rubenwardy |
I added a random container |
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rubenwardy |
"container[0," .. math.random() * 1000 .. "]container_end[]" |
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ANAND |
MT discards a formspec if it's the same as the previous one? |
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rubenwardy |
yes |
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rubenwardy |
same name too |
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ANAND |
What on earth.... |
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rubenwardy |
as in, has to be same name and FS |
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makayabou |
it works ! |
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rubenwardy |
yay! |
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makayabou |
thank you very much! |
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rubenwardy |
yw |
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rubenwardy |
really data and layout should be separate |
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makayabou |
what do you mean? |
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rubenwardy |
data = the values in formspecs layout=the elements and styles |
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rubenwardy |
so you can change the layout without deleting field contents |
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makayabou |
separated like in different functions? |
| 15:08 |
rubenwardy |
and you can change values without sending layouts |
| 15:08 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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makayabou |
i did that in the real code |
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makayabou |
i think.. |
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rubenwardy |
the Lua code doesn't matter, it's the C++ that matters |
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rubenwardy |
you still call show_Formspec |
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rubenwardy |
which will resend the entire layout and clear and fields |
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makayabou |
in my code i call a local mymod.gui and that function call show_formspec. does it make a difference? |
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makayabou |
i guess no. I will have a look to !book#clean_arch and come back to you later. Thanks |
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rubenwardy |
:D |
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rubenwardy |
not technically |
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rubenwardy |
like, nicer code |
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rubenwardy |
but the engine does the same thing |
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ANAND |
show_formspec still ends up stuffing a string into the client. |
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makayabou |
yes, what else to update a formspec? |
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rubenwardy |
I'm talking about engine modifications :P |
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rubenwardy |
I'm a core developer who unfortunately has done too much formspec stuff |
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* ANAND |
awaits this feature in 7.0.0 |
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makayabou |
ah ok!!! |
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rubenwardy |
estimated year: 2033 |
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ANAND |
I'd have already introduced my great-grandchildren to MT :D |
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makayabou |
and that's a good thing.. |
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ANAND |
Indeed :) |
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lllI1I |
speaking of formspec stuff I've found very little in the area of themeing the GUI in the docs |
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lllI1I |
apparently texture packs can change that but it doesn't explain how |
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rubenwardy |
lllI1I: that will be in 5.0.1 |
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rubenwardy |
oops |
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rubenwardy |
5.1.0 |
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lllI1I |
great |
| 16:53 |
rubenwardy |
you'll be able to do stuff like this: style[button;bgimg;image.png] |
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rubenwardy |
as for texture packs, you can use them to override any tectures used by formspecs |
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lllI1I |
looking forwards to it, would that also work for like the entire look and feel of the UI elements? |
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rubenwardy |
including the background texture in MTG |
| 16:54 |
rubenwardy |
no, it won't be universal |
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rubenwardy |
because I cba for that |
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rubenwardy |
formspecs need to die, this is just something before they do |
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lllI1I |
one of the things that bug me about MT is that the GUI appears very uninspired visually |
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lllI1I |
the style appears to be "sterile dark grey" |
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makayabou |
Can I have multiple lines selected by default in textlist element of a formspec ? Is there some reverse of minetest.explode_text_list_event() ? |
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makayabou |
can i use a list for <selected idx> in extlist[<X>,<Y>;<W>,<H>;<name>;<listelem 1>,<listelem 2>,...,<listelem n>;<selected idx>;<transparent>]` ? |
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kurtzmusch |
lllI1I thats because its an engine, servers are meant to customize it |
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lllI1I |
yes I would like to customize it, but I haven't been able to find documentation on how that is done |
| 17:04 |
rubenwardy |
player:set_formspec_prepends |
| 17:04 |
rubenwardy |
you can set backgrounds and colors of some things |
| 17:04 |
rubenwardy |
you can't set button colors or styles yet |
| 17:05 |
rubenwardy |
but if you write the mods, you can make imagE_buttons |
| 17:05 |
rubenwardy |
worth waiting for or using 5.1.0-dev when the styles PR is merged |
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lllI1I |
appreciate it |
| 17:05 |
rubenwardy |
PR :#8383 |
| 17:05 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8383 -- Add formspec styling using a style[] tag by rubenwardy |
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sfan5 |
!seen linuxdirk |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen linuxdirk around. |
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sfan5 |
!seen 4w |
| 17:29 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen 4w around. |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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rubenwardy |
I don't think he's on IRC |
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rubenwardy |
surprisingly |
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rubenwardy |
he has XMPP and a forum account |
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sfan5 |
the server resends custom hud values 60 times a second |
| 17:40 |
sfan5 |
wtf |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
actually just 30, still wtf |
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rubenwardy |
holly what |
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rubenwardy |
like, (custom hud) values? |
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rubenwardy |
which would be hud_add huds, compared to custom (hud values) which would be replacing builtin |
| 17:42 |
rubenwardy |
this would explain the network performance issues in CTF |
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ANAND |
custom hud? |
| 17:42 |
sfan5 |
just a normal hud_add |
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ANAND |
That is bad |
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ANAND |
O_O |
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rubenwardy |
oh dear |
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sfan5 |
ok it's not minetest, it's a mod issue |
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ANAND |
Whew... :D |
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sfan5 |
rubenwardy: have you lookined at wireshark to debug potential perf issues? |
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ANAND |
I'll give it a shot too |
| 18:14 |
ANAND |
once I figure out how to get it working |
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rubenwardy |
sfan5: there was a lot of mapblock fragments |
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rubenwardy |
Like, pages |
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p_gimeno |
what needs to happen in the forum for new users like me to be able to send PMs? |
| 18:31 |
p_gimeno |
I guess there's a minimum post count, any idea which? |
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rubenwardy |
p_gimeno: I can approve it |
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rubenwardy |
if you link your account |
| 18:38 |
p_gimeno |
do you mean like this? https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=24791 |
| 18:38 |
rubenwardy |
thanks |
| 18:38 |
p_gimeno |
no thank *you* :) |
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rubenwardy |
oh |
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p_gimeno |
s/no/no,/ |
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rubenwardy |
turns out that "Remove from newly registered" doesn't do what I thought it would do |
| 18:40 |
p_gimeno |
oh? I can write PMs now |
| 18:41 |
rubenwardy |
oh can you? |
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rubenwardy |
yay |
| 18:41 |
rubenwardy |
so it did |
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p_gimeno |
yes it worked, thanks :) |
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rubenwardy |
your rank is still "New member", hence my confusion |
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p_gimeno |
ah that's normal I think, that depends on post count only |
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makayabou |
with minetest.explode_textlist_event, I get an index number but how can I retrieve the value itself ?? |
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rubenwardy |
makayabou: you unfortunately need to save or regenerate the list |
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makayabou |
ok I see. thanks |
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Fixer |
ｍｉｎｅｔｅｓｔ ｉｓ ｄｏｉｎｇ |
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sfan5 |
nostalgia |
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kurtzmusch |
whut? |
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kurtzmusch |
p_gimeno whas that s/no/no,/ a search+replace thing? |
| 19:57 |
p_gimeno |
yes, a pseudo-sed command to fix my previous sentence :) |
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Calinou |
those work out of the box on Discord :P |
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kurtzmusch |
same as vim |
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MattJ |
Calinou, as in, Discord automatically interpets when you type 's/A/B/' in a message? |
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kurtzmusch |
discord botnet |
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Calinou |
yeah (but /g isn't supported) |
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Astrobe |
p_gimeno thinks that rubenwardy is an ex ;-) |
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est31 |
Fixer not doing |
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lllI1I |
rubenwardy: where do I report potential bugs in CTF to |
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Krock |
https://github.com/MT-CTF/capturetheflag/issues |
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Krock |
^ lllI1I |
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lllI1I |
thanks, was hoping for not github but fair enough |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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paramat |
!tell Astrobe "some custom trees seem to spawn on top of plants, or their first trunk node is replaced by a plant". that's expected and caused by decoration placement order (determined by registration order) and/or the setting of 'force_placement'. notice MTG places decorations largest first |
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MinetestBot |
paramat: I'll pass that on when Astrobe is around |
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Antum |
Is there a reason why I am quieted on #minetest-dev? |
| 23:39 |
p_gimeno |
I don't think so, are you sure you mean #minetest-dev and not #minetest-hub? |
| 23:40 |
rubenwardy |
Antum: I can't see you on the quiet list |
| 23:45 |
Antum |
This is the message if I try to change my nick while connected to #minetest-dev: "#minetest-dev :Cannot change nickname while banned/quieted on channel" |
| 23:45 |
Antum |
And this is the message if I try to say something in #minetest-dev: "#minetest-dev :Cannot send to nick/channel" |
| 23:45 |
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nri_ joined #minetest |
| 23:45 |
rubenwardy |
try now? |
| 23:46 |
Antum |
The nick I usually use is "AntumDeluge". |
| 23:46 |
Antum |
Nope, still doesn't work. |
| 23:46 |
Antum |
Same message. |
| 23:47 |
rubenwardy |
try parting an re-joining |
| 23:47 |
rubenwardy |
+d |
| 23:49 |
Antum |
Nope. |
| 23:49 |
rubenwardy |
I don't know why this is happening |
| 23:49 |
Antum |
It's interesting though, because at the same time I have been quieted on some other channels that I usually am in. |
| 23:50 |
rubenwardy |
shadowbanned? |
| 23:51 |
Antum |
What is shadowbanned? |
| 23:51 |
rubenwardy |
idk, it would be weird |
| 23:51 |
rubenwardy |
well, say whatever you were going to say in here instead |
| 23:52 |
Antum |
Oh no, sorry. I didn't have anything to say at the moment. I was just trying to figure out why I was quieted. Any time I try to change my nick back to "AntumDeluge" it won't let me while I am quieted. |
| 23:53 |
rubenwardy |
maybe your client is borked? |
| 23:53 |
rubenwardy |
oh nevermind |
| 23:54 |
paramat |
using a proper client, not webchat? |
| 23:54 |
rubenwardy |
paramat: the cloak says so |
| 23:54 |
rubenwardy |
in /whois |
| 23:54 |
rubenwardy |
it's not webchat |
| 23:54 |
AntumDeluge |
Ya, 6 channels I am quieted on. Once I parted from them I was able to change my nick. |
| 23:54 |
rubenwardy |
could be a weird chat bug |
| 23:54 |
AntumDeluge |
I am using HexChat on Windows. |
| 23:54 |
rubenwardy |
I suggest asking in #freenode |
| 23:54 |
AntumDeluge |
Good idea. Thanks. |
| 23:54 |
rubenwardy |
there's no staff members online ATM, according to /stats p |
| 23:59 |
paramat |
ok |
| 23:59 |
AntumDeluge |
It turns out I was not identified for my nick. And apparently you must be identified in those channels because the +q option is set? |
