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[git] markus mmattes.de -> minetest/minetest: Fix handling of --color and --worldlist command line arguments e3738c2 https://git.io/fjVx0 (2019-06-21T00:29:35Z) |
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[git] markusmmattes.de -> minetest/minetest: Exclude vscode editor files from source 7eb110d https://git.io/fjVxE (2019-06-21T00:29:35Z) |
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[git] pyrollo -> minetest/minetest: Improve buildbot script bbc5aa0 https://git.io/fjVxK (2019-06-21T00:44:55Z) |
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[git] pyrollo -> minetest/minetest: Improve buildbot script 39c54e1 https://git.io/fjVxi (2019-06-21T00:46:00Z) |
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skibur |
Ok Minetest API minetest:register_abm "chance". I'm trying to understand this. I have a chance of 32000. What does that mean?? |
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benrob0329 |
1 in 32000 nodes will have action run on them |
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skibur |
Thanks |
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skibur |
so a chance of 1 will have 0% action? |
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benrob0329 |
No, a chance of 1 will have 100% action |
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benrob0329 |
because 1 in 1 nodes will have action run on them |
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skibur |
Thanks |
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BuckarooBanzai |
!tell cheapie can you review https://github.com/pandorabox-io/digistuff/tree/nic-post ? I added the ability to POST with the NIC :) |
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MinetestBot |
BuckarooBanzai: I'll pass that on when cheapie is around |
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BuckarooBanzai |
Mesecons-luacontroller environment customization hook: PR: https://github.com/minetest-mods/mesecons/pull/465 |
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CopenBra[m] |
So, I'm experiencing tremendous lag when I log into servers with a few mods. I'm talking I send a message in the chat and I see my message show up several minutes later. The same with mining blocks, I mine some stone and they go to my an inventory several ridiculously long minutes later |
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CopenBra[m] |
I have a latency of ~800ms but why does that mean things should take MINUTES to happen in Minetest? |
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BuckarooBanzai |
CopenBra[m] what server? it depends on the individual server and its load/lag... |
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CopenBra[m] |
And if I connect to a vanilla server it's fine, I see chat messages and stuff in my inventory less than a second after talking/mining |
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CopenBra[m] |
I've experienced this lag in pandorabox and mt.nixne.st:25585 |
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CopenBra[m] |
There's a vanilla minetest server at mt.nixne.st:25589, when I visit it I don't experience any lag besides my latency |
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CopenBra[m] |
Sometimes it takes a few seconds for a mined block to appear in my inventory but that's it |
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CopenBra[m] |
But I join pandora or mt.nixne.st:25585 and it's unplayable |
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BuckarooBanzai |
CopenBra[m] is it only inventory lag or client-lag (slow graphics)? |
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BuckarooBanzai |
It does sound like network issues though, do you get frequent timeouts? |
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CopenBra[m] |
Only inventory lag. My framerate isn't 60fps but it's the same in multiplayer as it is singleplayer |
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CopenBra[m] |
No. I can connect to a server 99% of the time if it exists. |
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CopenBra[m] |
I have a ~20mbps bandwidth right now so I think that rules out download speed as the cause of the lag |
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CopenBra[m] |
Upload speed is ~0.4mbps though |
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CopenBra[m] |
Maybe that's it? |
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BuckarooBanzai |
CopenBra[m] i did see something like this before, but it had to do with huge digtron crates in the inventory: any chance it is something like that? |
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BuckarooBanzai |
could be the TX speed, can you test that on another line with the same setup? (PC) |
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CopenBra[m] |
How do I do that? |
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BuckarooBanzai |
CopenBra[m] test it on another internet connection (internet cafe, library, something like that...) |
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CopenBra[m] |
Oh. Unfortunately I don't have immediate access to transportation so that'll have to wait. |
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yw05 |
CopenBra[m]: (Android) maybe switching between WiFi and mobile network would work. |
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Ingar |
something might be hammering your connection. e.g. torrents |
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Ingar |
(they're quite good at killing an assymetric line) |
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yw05 |
Ingar: no, imho my isp appears to block the connection in a very weird way |
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yw05 |
imo they allow you to connect to a server for some time and then they suddenly cut the connection |
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Ingar |
I caught my ISP several tiems killing run-running SSH connections |
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Ingar |
*times |
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BuckarooBanzai |
Ingar: how do you know that, did they actively RST the connection? AFAIK the ssh-protocol allows some delay/connection-loss |
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yw05 |
BuckarooBanzai: it's simply weird that I often timeout from all the servers when I'm at home. |
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CopenBra[m] |
<yw05 "copenhagen bram: (Android) maybe"> That's a good idea! First I'll try logging into a server on my phone using wifi to see if I experience the same problems I do on my laptop. Then I'll try logging into a server via my mobile network |
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Ingar |
BuckarooBanzai: I saw stray RST |
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Ingar |
I also use ssh keepalive |
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Zeth_ |
So...Minetest with irrlicht 1.9 when? |
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rubenwardy |
when IRrlicht 1.9 is released |
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rubenwardy |
which is likely to be never |
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CopenBra[m] |
<CopenBra[m] "That's a good idea! First I'll t"> Tested connecting to server over my phone data, no lag at all. Same outrageous lag is experienced when connecting via my WiFi, on my phone. |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Fix segfault on quitting with open node formspec (#8608) 4e3c191 https://git.io/fjw31 (2019-06-21T19:00:30Z) |
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CopenBra[m] |
hello |
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Krock |
hi |
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CopenBra[m] |
I guess I just need internet that doesn't have so much latency huh |
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Krock |
indeed, your answer arrived 9 minutes late |
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CopenBra[m] |
what do you mean? |
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CopenBra[m] |
oh |
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CopenBra[m] |
that's not necessarily lazy that's also me being afk somtimes |
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Krock |
your connection is dangerously slow now. already 37 minutes latency |
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CopenBra[m] |
lmao |
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CopenBra[m] |
not everyone can afford your fancy internet with only 2 minutes of latency |
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nepugia |
Only a ping of 1000 * 2 * 60 ms :D |
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CopenBra[m] |
damn, i bet his computer is powered by mesecons |
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nepugia |
Oh god |
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* nepugia |
hides |
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* CopenBra[m] |
digs a trench around nepugia while they are afk and fills it with lava |
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nepugia |
I discovered that playing with damage off is much more fun... the only thing that damages you is something like drowning anyway, but swimming without drowning is much more fun |
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Daisae |
nepugia: potions can make you able to swim for a while underwater without drowning. and there is a submarine mod. I have not tried them yet. |
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nepugia |
potions? |
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Daisae |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10222 |
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nepugia |
oh, a mod |
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nepugia |
makes more sense to just turn off the game mechanic if it isnt fun imo |
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CopenBra[m] |
nepugia: what are your favorite mods? |
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CopenBra[m] |
you don't use mods? |
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nepugia |
CopenBra[m]: I don't think i use any mods that i haven't written myself, apart from minetest_game anyhow, so can't really answer that |
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CopenBra[m] |
what mods have you written? |
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nepugia |
for minetest only this one, but it isnt really 'stable': https://git.gryphno.de/SyrupThinker/minetest-mod-sparktech |
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nepugia |
(Couldn't figure out how to install that other technic mod, so wrote a bit on an own one with syrupthinker) |
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CopenBra[m] |
if you couldn't figure out how to install technic, how do you install your own mod? |
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CopenBra[m] |
(If I read you correctly) |
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nepugia |
cd $minetestinstall/mods; git clone mymod |
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CopenBra[m] |
why can't you install technic like that? |
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nepugia |
don't remember, don't think i figured out where their repo was |
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Krock |
minetest-mods/technic |
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CopenBra[m] |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/technic |
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CopenBra[m] |
How do I create a minetest mod? |
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nepugia |
is that a trick question? |
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Krock |
copypasta another mod. done |
| 21:23 |
Krock |
here's the book: https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/index.html |
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Krock |
Krock: *pastes link* |
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Krock |
rubenwardy: *TRIGGERED* |
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Krock |
CopenBra[m]: you can also go the boring & complicated way by looking up all functions on lua_api.txt and trying to put together somethnig that works, based on other mods |
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Krock |
kinda like engineering Frankenstein |
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nepugia |
CopenBra[m]: could also just take something like my mod and edit it until it no longer works |
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nepugia |
really, reading mods and editing them to see the effects is probably the best way to get started |
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CopenBra[m] |
hmm |
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CopenBra[m] |
are there any mods that make cobblestone explode when exposed to fire or lava? |
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nepugia |
Not that i know of, but the tnt mod might be editable to achieve that effect |
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Krock |
tnt does that, since it can be ignited by fire |
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CopenBra[m] |
hmm |
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Daisae |
I dislike how TNT sometimes makes lava now. |
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CopenBra[m] |
but it does it instantly |
| 21:37 |
CopenBra[m] |
I was thinking more of a gradual effect, a cobblestone block gets hotter as it sits next to a fire or lava, as it gets hotter it starts glowing, when it gets hot enough it explodes |
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nepugia |
possible sure, making animations on block textures is hugely annoying in minetest though |
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* CopenBra[m] |
plays mineclone 2 |
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CopenBra[m] |
Wuzzy: mineclone is cool |
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CopenBra[m] |
thanks |
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nepugia |
is the matrix bridge broken? |
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nepugia |
you seam to be talking to yourself on my end |
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CopenBra[m] |
no, I can hear you |
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CopenBra[m] |
just announcing to everybody that i'm playing mineclone 2 |
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nepugia |
well, to whom did you say thanks? |
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CopenBra[m] |
to Wuzzy for giving us such a wonderful thing |
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Wuzzy |
^^ |
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CopenBra[m] |
Wuzzy: Why is eating instantaneous, why can't work like it does in minecraft where you have to hold right click long enough to eat a food? |
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nepugia |
same reason that my mod incinerates pickaxes instead of letting you mine furnaces i assume |
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* CopenBra[m] |
follows a minecraft tutorial in mineclone2 |
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CopenBra[m] |
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=aA33H11Ie9A&listen=0 |
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