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gnawzie |
hello everyone |
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oil_boi |
is meta:set_string("value", "hi") faster than local table = {} table["value"] = "hi? |
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jas_ |
interesting question i wish i know. at a guess, i'd imagine getting meta is heavier than a table lookup, but i have nothing to base that on. i've always wanted to learn how to time stuff, i guess that's the best way to find out? |
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rubenwardy |
jas_: meta will be slower, but safer to persist |
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jas_ |
nice |
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jas_ |
!title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=156&start=9400 |
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MinetestBot |
jas_: Post your screenshots! - Page 377 - Minetest Forums |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Enable collide_with_objects for falling entities e8e5d28 https://git.io/JfZ6k (2020-05-06T12:03:52Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Rewrite falling entity to make use of collision info 723926a https://git.io/JfZ6I (2020-05-06T12:03:52Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Expose collided objects in moveresult b6b80f5 https://git.io/JfZ6L (2020-05-06T12:03:52Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] MoNTE48 -> minetest/minetest: Android: porting_android.cpp refactoring (#9687) 4f9a5f6 https://git.io/JfZ6A (2020-05-06T12:25:57Z) |
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GNU[BDC] |
hi, anyone know what has changed from 0.4.17 => 5.2.0. When you send private message reciever get message, but sender get only "message send". |
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Out`Of`Control |
In other words sender does not see what he wrote. |
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Out`Of`Control |
Now the question is, its a mod bug or a minetest bug. |
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ANAND |
Out`Of`Control: Not much seems to have changed in the /msg chat-command def. I don't remember seeing the messages I send in 0.4.x either. |
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ANAND |
Hmmm |
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ANAND |
I think it might be the chat-command feedback? i.e. "Issued command /msg receiver123 Hi" |
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Out`Of`Control |
it was working fine in 0.4.17 |
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Out`Of`Control |
only if you join a channel, it was broken |
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ANAND |
Then I think this regression is in a mod on your server. |
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ANAND |
You could try grepping for msg in your mods directory, if you have difficulty finding the mod. |
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Out`Of`Control |
conflict with other mod? |
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ANAND |
I don't really know. Maybe you can look for the mods that override the /msg chat-command? |
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ANAND |
One possible scenario is that a mod that you recently installed/updated now overrides the chat-command as well |
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Out`Of`Control |
ANAND: i see thanks! |
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Out`Of`Control |
i disable one by one to see what cause it |
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argentite |
Hello, new minetest player here. What is the relation among the different versions of minetest? I found another website minetest.org which seems to be distributing "Final Minetest". There also seems to be an old version. |
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sfan5 |
The latest version of Minetest is 5.2.0, the previous major version was called 0.4; both are network-incompatible which means you can't use a 0.4 client to play on a 5.x server or the other way around |
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sfan5 |
the so called "final minetest" you found is a fork of the 0.4 version, so quite old by now (regardless of what that website claims) |
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argentite |
Ok thanks, I'll stick to 5.2 |
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sfan5 |
that fork was created by a former community member after severe disagreements, that person has a tendency to harrass and stalk people so I'd suggest keeping a healthy distance |
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argentite |
umm... ok :D |
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lmat |
I installed the craftingguide mod. When I point at stone and type /craft I get the crafting guide showing how to make stone and what can be mode from it. There are also a bunch of items on the left. |
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lmat |
When I click most of the items on the left, nothing happens. |
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jas_ |
got the latest versions of the craftguide mod and minetest? |
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jas_ |
craftguide requires newer version if i'm not mistaken |
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[git] v-rob -> minetest/minetest: FormSpec: Add universal style selector `*` (#9718) 664800b https://git.io/JfZNH (2020-05-06T17:36:02Z) |
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gnawzie |
if I have something growing upward, it seems like abm will scan from the bottom up, so if I have put something on top the abm will scan over the next Y and grow it up yet again multiple times in an interval, should I use a node timer to prevent this? |
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[git] osjc -> minetest/minetest: Get rid of non-ascii characters in the debug display code (#8821) 4f9ccd8 https://git.io/JfneE (2020-05-06T19:35:18Z) |
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appgurueu |
#8821 is a regression IMO |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8821 -- Replace non-ASCII characters in gameui debug display code by osjc |
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appgurueu |
Replacing very readable with unreadable code is a very bad idea and undermines the purpose of code style. |
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appgurueu |
( change was replacing "°" with "\xC2\xB0" without adding a comment) |
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rubenwardy |
why is that needed? Our source code should be in UTF-8, all compilers support that |
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rubenwardy |
it's in the standard |
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appgurueu |
yup |
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appgurueu |
I'd always prefer "°" over "\xC2\xB0" |
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appgurueu |
And if a "code style" requires me to write the latter, it's a bad or outdated code style |
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appgurueu |
#9828 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9828 -- Revert "Replace non-ASCII characters in gameui debug display code" by appgurueu |
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Krock |
seriously |
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appgurueu |
jup |
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appgurueu |
GitHub provides a very convenient "Revert" button |
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Krock |
you had like one entire year to comment that previous PR so leave it |
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Krock |
well 9 months but still |
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appgurueu |
I didn't even notice it |
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appgurueu |
But I keep an eye on merged PRs |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Fix compatibility of MapBlock decoding 2979dc5 https://git.io/JfnJU (2020-05-06T20:32:27Z) |
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frabbit |
hi. i just compiled latest minetest engine and game, but my game crahses when i throw something and it keeps crahing a few seconds after rejoin the world, too. heres the output of my terminal: https://paste2.org/p5naHFjy |
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Lone_Wolf |
Are you sure MTG is up-to-date? |
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appguru |
frabbit: I assume this might have been caused by sfan5 rewriting the item entity using the new moveresult? |
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sfan5 |
Lone_Wolf: considering their log says "minetest_game-5.2.0" I am very sure it is not up-to-date |
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Lone_Wolf |
Getting the latest MTG will fix ^ |
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Lone_Wolf |
lel, missed that |
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appguru |
No, I think I got a clue |
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appguru |
sfan5: default is overriding the item entity AFAIK, and most likely it doesn't pass the moveresult anymore |
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sfan5 |
what do you mean "anymore"? |
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sfan5 |
this bug was fixed even before the item entity PR was merged into the engine |
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appguru |
Sorry, not anymore, it never did |
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appguru |
Reminds me I'll have to update by item limit mod |
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appguru |
my* |
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appguru |
But indeed |
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appguru |
it is fixed in upstream MTG |
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frabbit |
ok tank you for the replys. why isnt the latest version listed here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/releases |
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Lone_Wolf |
download minetest_game the same way you downloaded minetest, from master |
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Lone_Wolf |
Note that's the latest dev |
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frabbit |
yeah sure, but that doesnt answer my question ;) |
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appguru |
Because releases are only stable ones |
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appguru |
Nightly releases are not meant to be installed by downloading |
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frabbit |
wait! so the latest stable release isnt stable at all? |
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Lone_Wolf |
No |
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sfan5 |
if you compile the engine from master instead of 5.2.0 you also need minetest_game from master not 5.2.0 |
| 21:32 |
Lone_Wolf |
latest stable Minetest Engine: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases |
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Lone_Wolf |
Latest stable Minetest Game https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/releases |
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frabbit |
sfan5: ok i see. so latest menas always nightly |
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frabbit |
thx |
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Lone_Wolf |
There is also a stable-5 branch in both repos |
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frabbit |
Lone_Wolf: thx i posted that links before ;P |
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frabbit |
fine now throwing works =) |
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appguru |
frabbit: side note, it's called dropping |
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frabbit |
thx again and cya |
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* appguru |
waves |
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frabbit |
appguru: hm depends on your definition: if i drop my key, the it falls to my feet, not 1 and a half meter infront of me ;D |
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jas_ |
rubenwardy: hi can i get voice on #minetest-hub ? |
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