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placeholder_name |
So I've run into a wall, figuratively speaking. I've figured out how to change my character's skin, but not hand. How would I resolve this? |
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placeholder_name |
I know what file to replace, but I'm not certain as to how to make the hand match the look of the third person body. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> If you have custom per-player skins then you'll probably need a coresponding custom per-player hand, which will also need to be registered at startup time |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> unlike player entities, nodes and wielditems have to be pre-registered |
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placeholder_name |
Yeah, unfortunately while I figured that out and found the hand skin, wieldhand.png, I don't know how to take the skin and make a hand matching in appearance. |
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placeholder_name |
Not sure the best way to phrase my problem, but in short, I'm not sure what the hand image should look like, where each pixel should go. |
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<GreenXenith> placeholder_name: If you use a mesh for the hand then you can just UV map the skin onto the hand mesh |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> For my server I just used a cubic hand, similar to Minecraft .. easier to map |
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placeholder_name |
I think I figured it out and made it with GIMP, just need to load it up. |
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placeholder_name |
there was an attempt. |
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placeholder_name |
Can someone please show me an example 1st person hand? I can easily work from there. |
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placeholder_name |
Hello delta, surprised to see you here. Thought you mostly worked on Mindustry stuff. :P |
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specing |
Has anyone thought about a proper GUI library instead of the formspecs? |
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specing |
something like SpringRTS's chiliui or freeorions libgigi? |
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specing |
the former is done in lua itself |
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rubenwardy |
none of the existing GUI libraries are any good |
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specing |
rubenwardy: chili is not? |
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specing |
you've evaluated it? |
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rubenwardy |
I've evaluated quite a few, but not that one |
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rubenwardy |
it looks like it hasn't been updated since 2016 |
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rubenwardy |
and there's only 16 stars |
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specing |
check gajop's repo |
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rubenwardy |
is this actually included in the spring sourcecode? |
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specing |
he's maintaining it |
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specing |
no |
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specing |
it's included in the game repos of the games that use it |
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rubenwardy |
there are two different problems that need to be solved - the API and the actual UI |
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rubenwardy |
formspecs are an API |
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rubenwardy |
they're currently implemented using the Irrlicht GUI library |
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rubenwardy |
a lot of the problem with formspecs is actually with formspecs and not Irrlicht GUI, although Irrlicht GUI isn't that great either |
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specing |
chili uses opengl api exported to lua |
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specing |
and provides an api of its own |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, but that only really helps on the client |
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specing |
hmm? |
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rubenwardy |
The Lua API almost definitely won't work over the net. That being said, it is good to have Lua bindings for the client - makes it easier to make custom components |
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rubenwardy |
I like the look of nanogui, I need to check it out some itme |
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rubenwardy |
if spring itself is still actively developed and they heavily depend on chiliui then that's good |
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rubenwardy |
The current plan is to pull in Irrlicht GUI into our code base - like supertuxkart |
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rubenwardy |
and have a Lua DSL API which uses JSON over the network |
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rubenwardy |
that would work best if we can pull in the work supertuxkart has done |
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specing |
rubenwardy: spring itself is just an engine. It provides a basic drawing API to games |
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rubenwardy |
So chiliui is a third-party library? |
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specing |
games ship chiliui/redui/... to provide a high-level widget api |
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specing |
yes, but no (it is developed by the same people that work on the engine and games) |
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MinetestBot |
Wuzzy: Sep-11 17:08 UTC <Krock> 2020-09-11 19:07:30: WARNING[Server]: Deprecated usage of statbar without size! (at minetest_hudbars/init.lua:232) |
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Wuzzy |
Krock: ? |
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Krock |
Wuzzy: ?? |
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Wuzzy |
i hate this |
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Wuzzy |
Krock: also, can't reproduce. context? |
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Krock |
please give me your wayback time machine... I also need to figure out |
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Wuzzy |
lol |
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Wuzzy |
i believe i already had this bug before, and fixed it since then. maybe u used an ancient version? |
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Wuzzy |
either that, or the bug crept back in |
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Krock |
clone up to date, commit 0684bac45b |
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Krock |
can reproduce with only hudbars enabled |
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Wuzzy |
thats not up-to-date ? |
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Wuzzy |
a250d2a350cbc20dac030437266ccb1f825d72c9 |
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Wuzzy |
↑ latest commit |
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Wuzzy |
latest version = 2.2.0 |
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Wuzzy |
2.2.2* |
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Krock |
Date: Sat Jul 11 03:41:09 2020 +0200 Version 2.3.1 |
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Krock |
the future is now |
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Krock |
v2.2.0 of hudbars was commit 2ffcd94 |
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Wuzzy |
still not reproducible |
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Wuzzy |
mt 5.3.0, hb v2.3.1 |
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Krock |
hudbars_bar_health.png hudbars_bar_breath.png are the images used for the HUDs.. probably a builtin problem then.. |
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Krock |
no, "bar_size" is "Intentionally set to nil. For some reason, on some systems, the progress bar is displaced when the bar_size is set explicitly here. [...]" |
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Krock |
hmmm |
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Wuzzy |
well i DO set size to nil intentionally |
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Wuzzy |
220 -- NOTE: Intentionally set to nil. For some reason, on some systems, |
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Wuzzy |
221 -- the progress bar is displaced when the bar_size is set explicitly here. |
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Wuzzy |
222 -- On the other hand, setting this to nil is deprecated in MT 5.0.0 due to |
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Wuzzy |
223 -- a debug log warning, but nothing is explained in lua_api.txt. |
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Wuzzy |
224 -- This section is a potential bug magnet, please watch with care! |
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Wuzzy |
225 -- The size of the bar image is expected to be exactly 2×16 pixels. |
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Wuzzy |
226 |
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Krock |
yes thanks. I also found that. trying to figure out why that's a problem |
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Wuzzy |
so its an ugly workaround to an ugly minetest bug ? unless it got fixeed in 5.3.... |
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Wuzzy |
i didnt get the warning tho |
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Wuzzy |
well the whole progress bar idea in hudbars is a giant hack anyway. I hope it can be moved to the engine one day. engine would be able to render progress bars much more accurately anyway |
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Krock |
except that the HUD API is a PITA too |
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Wuzzy |
haha. |
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Wuzzy |
what in Minetest is *NOT* a PITA? |
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Wuzzy |
? |
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Krock |
player database migration |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> Using mods that don’t sanity check for nil |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> coughs in hud bars general direction |
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Wuzzy |
Jordach: I know. but i had no other choice in this case ? |
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Wuzzy |
I have the choice of either using a deprecated but functional mode, or a non-deprecated mode that is proven to break hudbars on Windows but not GNU/Linux... |
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Wuzzy |
i have long given up in finding a solution for that one, tbh |
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Jordach |
but windows dpi is now 9y |
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Jordach |
96 |
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Wuzzy |
Jordach: Oh, so it is consitent with Linux? Does it mean I can safely set size again? |
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Jordach |
yes |
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Wuzzy |
ohhhhhhhhhhh |
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Wuzzy |
thanks!! |
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Jordach |
what is reading the changelog |
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Wuzzy |
i did |
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Wuzzy |
but i must have forgotten about this |
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Wuzzy |
too many changes lol |
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