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jas_ |
main_menu.x.ogg doesn't respect mute_sound=true. good night |
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dievri |
Hello. Based on what minetest decides, if player is newly registered account? |
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sfan5 |
probably whether get_auth returns nil |
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jas_ |
!mod |
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MinetestBot |
jas_: morefaces [morefaces] by Dogzilla131 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=3959 |
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jas_ |
dead mod :'( |
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jas_ |
!server |
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MinetestBot |
jas_: King of the Hill :: Modern Warfare (CapturePoint) | ratmix.com | Clients: 0/32, 0/3 | Version: 5.2.0 / minetest | Ping: 133ms |
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Bombo |
trying to compile it |
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MinetestBot |
[git] luk3yx -> minetest/minetest: Remove null bytes from TOCLIENT_BLOCKDATA (#10433) 09af0c5 https://git.io/JUVcz (2020-09-26T13:31:54Z) |
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eeerungur |
static_spawnpoint < this sets the default spawn for when someone joins the server right? does it allow people to change their respawn points with beds? |
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Bombo |
does it need LevelDB and Redis and Prometheus and SpatialIndex? |
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Bombo |
the apt install line on https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/stable-5 doesn't instasll these |
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sfan5 |
those are optional |
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sfan5 |
eeerungur: that only applies to new people or when you don't have another spawnpoint (such as a bed) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] BuckarooBanzay -> minetest/minetest: Enable LuaJIT on the Docker image (#10414) 9eb4516 https://git.io/JUVcD (2020-09-26T13:32:49Z) |
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sfan5 |
so yes beds will still work |
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eeerungur |
sfan5: thanks for your help. :) |
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jas_ |
!test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhGTFuIStPs |
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Krock |
I can only see lava that might cause slow rendering times there |
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jas_ |
yes thx |
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jas_ |
i didn't notice while recording |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> What did i miss? |
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Krock |
Genshin: hopefully me |
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Krock |
jas_: lol ;) |
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Krock |
animated nodes might perform a bit worse |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Hello Krock, how are things? :) |
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jas_ |
so make lava not animate? |
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Bombo |
is PostgreSQL optional? it uses sqlite anyways? |
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heavygale |
https://wiki.minetest.net/Database_backends you can choose what backend you want to use for your server |
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Krock |
hi Genshin. Most is fine - just the weather isn't that motivating. |
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Krock |
Bombo: yes, optional. requires a build that supports it |
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Krock |
check that by running minetest(server) --version |
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Krock |
actually. that might not be listed in the output. hmm. |
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Krock |
ldd minetest(server) | grep sql |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Weather can be a drag, over here is very hot to go outside, lol |
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Bombo |
-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! |
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Bombo |
just because PostgreSQL Redis Prometheus SpatialIndex |
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Bombo |
what are these for? |
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Bombo |
Krock: are these really optional? |
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Krock |
Bombo: disable them |
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Krock |
perhaps they're enabled by default, so use -DENABLE_POSTGRESQL=0 |
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Krock |
or whatever. the exact setting is documented in README.md |
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Bombo |
cmake .. -ENABLE_POSTGRESQL=OFF |
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Bombo |
hm |
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Bombo |
cmake looks for a file with that name |
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sfan5 |
-DENABLE_POSTGRESQL=OFF not -ENABLE_POSTGRESQL=OFF |
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sfan5 |
also it would've been useful to say what cmake says before the "Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!" |
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Bombo |
OH ;) |
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Bombo |
no got it the D was missing |
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Bombo |
sorry |
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* Bombo |
watching make |
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Krock |
make -j |
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MinetestBot |
[git] MoNTE48 -> minetest/minetest: Android: replace InputDialogActivity on simple dialog window (#10034) 4298d95 https://git.io/JUw4O (2020-09-26T16:42:22Z) |
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[git] EliasFleckenstein03 -> minetest/minetest: Patch fast/teleport vulnerability when attached to an entity (#10340) 65c15e1 https://git.io/JUw43 (2020-09-26T16:41:44Z) |
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[git] Tyler-2 -> minetest/minetest: Log server announce on updates and deletes too (#10177) 917e357 https://git.io/JUw4s (2020-09-26T16:41:16Z) |
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fruitsnack |
hello, probably not the best place to ask about this, but what's going on with git.minetest.land? |
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fruitsnack |
MineClone2 is hosted there and it's been down for 2 days |
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eeerungur |
fruitsnack: probably unrelated, but i've just noticed my mineclone2 server has crashed. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> fruitsnack: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25401 |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> also this reddit post talks about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/izze13/is_mineclone2_having_trouble_any_tips_for_someone/ |
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Pie-jacker875 |
is it possible to define params on worldedit |
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Pie-jacker875 |
I want to set the selection to moreblocks:slab_wood, param2: 20 |
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Pie-jacker875 |
how am I supposed to set a region to slabs that are in a certain orientation |
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Pie-jacker875 |
I have yet to find an example of how to do this |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/blob/master/ChatCommands.md#param2-param2 |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> That file documents all the commands |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Including the one for setting param2 |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> And if there is a command you need and cant find, there is always //luatransform |
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Pie-jacker875 |
how about replace param so it only targets one type of node |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> at that point you'll probably need to use luatransform |
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Pie-jacker875 |
lol |
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Pie-jacker875 |
so I take it there's no replace mix either |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> yes, use worldedit addition mod |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Here's the luatransform command if you want |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> //luatransform local name = "moreblocks:slab_wood" local param2 = 20 if minetest.get_node(pos).name == name then minetest.swap_node(pos, {name = name, param2 = param2}) end |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://github.com/sbrl/Minetest-WorldEditAdditions < for replacemix |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> also adds a lot more helpful commands |
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Pie-jacker875 |
RIP my building |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> always make backups |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> nothing in worldedit can be reverted |
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Pie-jacker875 |
at least it was just a single slice of my building |
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Pie-jacker875 |
also thanks for indulging my laziness |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> wasn't there a mod that added a worldedit //undo at one point? |
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Pie-jacker875 |
I was just reading about that, sounds like there is at least one but it's not entirely reliable |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> i think lsw had it at one point, i would have to ask ls13/cee-gee about it |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> https://github.com/HybridDog/we_undo |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> or there it is |
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Bombo |
how do i make a user an admin again? /grantme all doesn't seem to work |
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Bombo |
'insufficient permittions' |
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Bombo |
s/tt/ss |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> hopefully someone can test this https://notabug.org/Genshin/cheat_detection |
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Bombo |
in ~/.minetest/games/ i did 'git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git' then edited 'minetest_game/minetest.conf' added just 'name=bombo' but '/grantme all' didn't work |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> > hopefully someone can test this https://notabug.org/Genshin/cheat_detection @/g/ what features does it have? like what hacks does it check for? |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> @oneplustwo So far it can detect: Killaura, Fast dig, instant break nodes, forced fast, forced fly, forced noclip, and jesus walk |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> what does fast dig do? |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> i thought unlimited range was solved |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> fast dig allows you to instantly dig diggable nodes |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> what about scaffold? |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Not yet |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> i mean technically people could have a normal client and just set right_click_repeat to 0.01 |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Also it has a automod feature that allows a server host to enable/disable autoban or autokick when detection found a culprit consistently triggering the following detections |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> digging fast is different from breaking fast |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> if a player breaks an obsidian node in under a second using the bare hand, thats an issue |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Yes, breaking fast allows you to dig unbreakables with anything, even your bare hand |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> insta break isnt that op |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> you cant break obsidian with your bare hands |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Depends on the game |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> depends on the dig time |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> and i think the instabreak is client side only or something |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Maybe you missed the part where it said "cheat" |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> well i have a hacked client with instabreak |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> and i know that if the node takes more than a second to mine, you cant really instabreak it |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> doubt |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> also: setting speeds to that wouldn't do anything on right click because of server_step |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> it'd read rightclick as a single button press due to delayed updates |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> > also: setting speeds to that wouldn't do anything on right click because of server_step @Jordach still, blocks can be place a lot faster |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> and? i can click stupid fast |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> doesn#t change a thig |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> games that /dont/ use the default Minetest mechanics come out unscathed |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> well the speed at which you can bridge is similar to the speed at which you can scaffold |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> which was my point |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> nerdpoling is the easiest thing on the planet |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> look down and hold right mouse |
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Bombo |
oh got it it has to go into ~/.minetest/minetest.conf |
| 21:05 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> https://tenor.com/view/picard-double-facepalm-reaction-gif-3521249 |
| 21:05 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> you took the gif right out of my mouth |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> > doubt @Jordach wdym |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-oh-no-hells-kitchen-no-nope-gif-10726820 |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> i basically wrote a brand new game using the Minetest engine without even touching the standard digging and placing controls at all |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> the world is used, just as terrain |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> no survival or crafting |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> point being? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> it's immune to the usual "hacks" |
| 21:10 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> which are nothing more than boring source code edits made by script kiddies like you |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> tracers? |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> fullbright? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> what is display gamma |
| 21:10 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> HUDbypass? |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> lol |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> touché |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> bypassing the only formspec on join in my game wont do you any good |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> it's required to actually play the game |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> so in other words |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> wait what is your game even for? |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> https://gfycat.com/timelybrokenbighornedsheep https://gfycat.com/welloffillfatedemperorshrimp |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Its a first person shooting game |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> because of the design, i can port it to any game engine that runs Lua due to it's non usage of Minetest related APIs |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> interesting |
| 21:14 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> client side hacks pose no threat as everything is calculated server side |
| 21:14 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> clients are basically untrusted entirely |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> freecam? |
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Pie-jacker875 |
wallhacks |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> fixed in engine today |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> how is freecam fixed? |
| 21:16 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> im sure its not |
| 21:16 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Wallhacks? You mean no priv noclip? |
| 21:17 |
Pie-jacker875 |
pretty sure wallhacks typically means seeing enemies through walls when you shouldn't be able to |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Pretty sure a detection with raycast would solve that problem |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> lol |
| 21:20 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> isnt rendering client side? |
| 21:20 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> yes and irrlicht is so crap you might as well write a new minetest client |
| 21:20 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> lol k |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> i learned programming yesterday so idk |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> https://tenor.com/view/zach-galifianakis-funny-laugh-laughing-weird-laugh-gif-3547058 |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> yes i opened terminal |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> then i typed "tree" and then "top" and now i am best hacker in school |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> how are you gonna get down from there though? |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> ? |
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MTDiscord |
<Lone_Wolf> Not a hacker until you can get down without Mr. Incredible |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> to be fair down comes from geese, not tree tops |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> i hacked my school |
| 21:28 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> :(){:|: &};: |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Tbh I only added strict detection for the following hacks: Killaura, Fast dig, instant break nodes, forced fast, unlimited range, forced fly, forced noclip, and jesus walk. |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> The rest are pretty minor to even add detection for them. Scaffolding isnt too much of an issue tbh |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> It doesn't disrupt gameplay in any way |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> But if people want me to add a detection for it, i'll gladly make one |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> > The rest are pretty minor hacks to even add detection for them. > > Scaffolding isnt too much of an issue tbh @/g/ depends on the game |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> @oneplustwo > But if people want me to add a detection for it, i'll gladly make one |
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<Genshin> happy now? @oneplustwo |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/759563390909153312/Screenshot_at_2020-09-26_19-53-20.png |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> the council is satisfied with your work. they will now claim credit for it |
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<Genshin> Repo is AGPLv3 |
