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AspireMint |
Hello, is there any fn which is called when mapchunk/mapblock is sent to player? There is fn when chunk is generated, but can not find any when chunk/block is loaded again. |
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BuckarooBanzai |
AspireMint: no such thing yet, what yre you trying to accomplish? |
| 10:24 |
AspireMint |
im trying to do some statistics, which mapblocks are most used etc. |
| 10:25 |
BuckarooBanzai |
used as in loaded or in placed/digged? |
| 10:25 |
AspireMint |
loaded |
| 10:26 |
BuckarooBanzai |
alternatively to check if they (could be) loaded you could just add some globalstep logic and flag the mapblocks around the player every second or so |
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AspireMint |
Yes, but thats not accurate :-( DB trigger can do it, i guess, but... better if there is lua fn. |
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BuckarooBanzai |
to further complicate things: a mapblock can be cached for a while outside the database, or could even be loaded by a machine (mesecons, etc) |
| 10:30 |
BuckarooBanzai |
are you trying to do a kind of "hotspot" map or is it about unused parts of the map? |
| 10:32 |
AspireMint |
unused parts |
| 10:34 |
BuckarooBanzai |
is your map too big? |
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AspireMint |
minetest.on_load_area would be helpful grrr |
| 10:34 |
AspireMint |
it doesnt even exist yet x) |
| 10:34 |
AspireMint |
but will be huge |
| 10:35 |
BuckarooBanzai |
this function will be called quite a lot, i'm not sure thats good for performance (c++ to lua call) |
| 10:36 |
AspireMint |
but not as often as globalstep or other abms, and server isnt always full of people walking at speed of light through map x) |
| 10:38 |
BuckarooBanzai |
if you have a view-range of 10 mapblocks (the default i think) it would result in 1000+ calls just for one player |
| 10:38 |
BuckarooBanzai |
i'm not saying it is a bad idea but it has some performance issues if done improperly... |
| 10:40 |
AspireMint |
ooops, i think we are talking about different thing. I meant mapblock as bulk of nosed that is sent by server to player. Mapblock is not node. |
| 10:41 |
AspireMint |
from allmighty api.lua: "A 'mapblock' (often abbreviated to 'block') is 16x16x16 nodes and is the |
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AspireMint |
fundamental region of a world that is stored in the world database, sent to |
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AspireMint |
clients and handled by many parts of the engine. |
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AspireMint |
'mapblock' is preferred terminology to 'block' to help avoid confusion with |
| 10:41 |
AspireMint |
'node', however 'block' often appears in the API." |
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BuckarooBanzai |
well, i'm talking about the 16x16x16 node "blocks" |
| 10:42 |
BuckarooBanzai |
node < mapblock < chunk |
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AspireMint |
uhh but why 1000+ calls? |
| 10:43 |
BuckarooBanzai |
view-range of 10 mapblocks has (at least) 10^3 mapblocks in it, if not more |
| 10:43 |
BuckarooBanzai |
there are some view-cone calulcations/culling but the amount sounds right... |
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AspireMint |
oh okay, because i was fast-flying through map in singleplayer and on_generated callback wasnt called so often, thats why i think it should not be problem. You are right, but also there is catch, it is not sent at one moment :-) |
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BuckarooBanzai |
on_generated is called for a chunk of 125 mapblocks ;) |
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AspireMint |
ooooh right x) |
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AspireMint |
haha, okay thanks for info and help, ill do some more testing |
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MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> Here's an idea but I have no clue how heavy it will be on the server: Add a custom group to every node or at least every node that's used for mapgen and then use a LBM |
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MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> In theory this should trigger whenever a player enters a new mapblock then |
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MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> New as in either newly generated or not-loaded |
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AspireMint |
thanks, im going to use invisible entity for each mapblock, and create own minetest.on_load_mapblock when entity is loaded. Am i right that entity will despawn when mapblock is unloaded? Or is it still alive in own universe (global variable)? |
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AspireMint |
nvm, it despawns... anyone knows what can be reason entity is not visible (not activated) but is placed to world? minetest.add_entity returns obj (so it is created) but on_activate is not called. Here is screenshot https://i.imgur.com/Oqy5nBw.png (spacing - 4 nodes in this case, but also same problem with 16, so its not in amount of entities, it shouldnt be..) |
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BuckarooBanzai |
AspireMint: source? |
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AspireMint |
BuckarooBanzai: https://www.paste.org/114202 |
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AspireMint |
lol, ignore that line - chat_send_all, theres bug but still, it is never nil so.. |
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BuckarooBanzai |
where is your `on_activate`? it should be called if it is in the entity definition... |
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BuckarooBanzai |
oh, and just a heads-up: if there are too many entities in the mapblock (there is a setting) all of them get removed ;) |
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MTDiscord |
<RAB> Does anyone know why a client side mod using register_on_connect is throwing an error? Has this command been changed or deprecated? I'll be glad to read a document if anyone can point to something helpful. I was unable to find it using multiple search engines. |
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ryzenda |
https://wiki.minetest.net/Tool#Wear typo: "Wheather" should be "Whether" -- I can't find a way to edit or register an account |
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ryzenda |
only 1 typo: https://wiki.minetest.net/index.php?search=wheather&button=&title=Special%3ASearch |
| 13:11 |
sfan5 |
fixed |
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AspireMint |
BuckarooBanzai: sorry, can not edit that file... so here it is: on_activate = function(self, staticdata, dtime_s) if vector.distance(self.object:get_pos(), vector.new(64,-16,0)) < 1 then minetest.after(5, function() minetest.chat_send_all("---> is visible") end) end end |
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AspireMint |
BuckarooBanzai: that xyz i know from debug file, there should be entity. But somehow its missing, also tons of other entities are missing. |
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BuckarooBanzai |
well, they only spawn on mapgen, are you sure it is freshly generated? |
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AspireMint |
static_save = true , so it is loaded when i restart server |
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BuckarooBanzai |
did you try to move the `chat_send_all` a bit further up? the condition might not be true there |
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BuckarooBanzai |
static_save is true by default iirc |
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MTDiscord |
<RAB> Does anyone know why a client side mod using register_on_connect is throwing an error? Has this command been changed or deprecated? I'll be glad to read a document if anyone can point to something helpful. I was unable to find it using multiple search engines. |
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AspireMint |
BuckarooBanzai: it is inside of .after fn, so when i log in it will wait and print it on my screen |
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AspireMint |
RAB: what MT version? i can not find any "register_on_connect" function |
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sfan5 |
yeah that was probably removed https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/client_lua_api.txt |
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hisforever |
Mabee someone can help I just installed Debin os on my laptop. the software center only has Mt 0.4.19 How can I get the latist MT |
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MTDiscord |
<Knot Abbot> https://github.com/minetest/minetest |
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MTDiscord |
<Knot Abbot> read the compiling section |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable sudo apt update sudo apt install minetest |
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sfan5 |
I thought PPA don't work on debian? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> not sure, at least the bot here claims it does |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> if it doesn't that needs to be fixed |
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sfan5 |
you could also download a deb package of a development build here https://gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/-/pipelines?scope=finished&page=1 |
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sfan5 |
(download button on the right, you can pick debian-9 or debian-10) |
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MTDiscord |
<Knot Abbot> Oh didn't know there was this option as well, nice. |
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hisforever |
Thanks sfan5 |
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Wuzzy |
hey, lets play on A.E.S. server, there are many minigames |
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specing |
128 or 256? |
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MTDiscord |
<realtechnerd> test |
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Bombo |
hi |
| 18:35 |
Bombo |
i installed minetest from the play store on my android (10) tablet, but every time i start it i just get 3/4 or so of the screen |
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big_caballito[m] |
? |
| 18:36 |
Bombo |
the touch input is full screen the actual grafics are 3/4, so i can't hit connect or stuff |
| 18:37 |
big_caballito[m] |
on amdroid? |
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Bombo |
yes |
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big_caballito[m] |
s/amdroid/android |
| 18:37 |
Bombo |
android 10 |
| 18:38 |
Bombo |
i deleted cache, then data, no change, uninstalled, installed no change |
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big_caballito[m] |
what do you mean by "touch... is full screen"? the buttons? |
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Bombo |
touch input is not in sync with the gfx |
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Bombo |
so the coordinates where i see e.g. the connect button nothing happens, but if i add like 50 to x and 50 to y axis |
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big_caballito[m] |
ok... now i understand your problem |
| 18:41 |
big_caballito[m] |
so |
| 18:41 |
big_caballito[m] |
idk, have you looked around in the settings? |
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Bombo |
just the gfx is like 3/4 of the full screen |
| 18:42 |
Bombo |
it's hard to hit the settings |
| 18:42 |
big_caballito[m] |
this is a little out of my experience, maybe sfan5 can help better? IK he does android stuff |
| 18:42 |
Bombo |
and it should be reset after i uninstalled/reinstalled and deled the data+cache i guess |
| 18:43 |
big_caballito[m] |
but it wasn't, hmm |
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* Bombo |
asks sfan5 |
| 18:44 |
Bombo |
the one i found on f-droid doesn't start at all btw |
| 18:44 |
Bombo |
i just get the loading bar |
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big_caballito[m] |
can you look at your minetest.conf? i.e. do you have a text editor app? |
| 18:44 |
big_caballito[m] |
this is the version from github, right? |
| 18:44 |
Krock |
f-droid apks are outdated |
| 18:45 |
Bombo |
samsung notes |
| 18:45 |
Bombo |
i installed i from google play store |
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big_caballito[m] |
I wouldn't trust any from google play, you should try the one from https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases |
| 18:47 |
Krock |
net.minetest.minetest is the official one. version 5.3.0 |
| 18:47 |
Krock |
and that's maintained well |
| 18:48 |
Krock |
irrlicht should use the full reported screen size |
| 18:48 |
Krock |
but I've also seen reports where it scaled wrongly on retina displays (1/4 of the screen) |
| 18:49 |
Krock |
if you would like to tinker with the settings manually, loko out for minetest.conf within the game's working directory (parent directory of "worlds") |
| 18:49 |
Krock |
or using the GUI. the settings are named screen_w and screen_h |
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sfan5 |
uhh, no idea |
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Krock |
monte is usually our guy who takes care about Android problems |
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big_caballito[m] |
good to know, lol |
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Bombo |
it's 5.3.0 |
| 19:01 |
Bombo |
what's a good free conf editor? |
| 19:01 |
Bombo |
there are too many |
| 19:01 |
Bombo |
first one didn't let me change dirs |
| 19:04 |
Bombo |
second one just a viewer lol |
| 19:05 |
big_caballito[m] |
I like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.notes.pro |
| 19:06 |
big_caballito[m] |
pretty sure it can edit text files |
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Bombo |
ok got it |
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Bombo |
there was screen_w=1440 screen_h=900 |
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Bombo |
for some reason |
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Bombo |
real is 1920x1200 |
| 19:08 |
Bombo |
i commented it out and now i get full screen |
| 19:09 |
big_caballito[m] |
?️ |
| 19:09 |
Bombo |
minetest.conf had screen_w=1440 screen_h=900 |
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big_caballito[m] |
!next (even though I barely helped) |
| 19:09 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 19:10 |
Bombo |
;) |
| 19:10 |
Bombo |
thx anyways big_caballito[m] ;) |
| 19:10 |
big_caballito[m] |
np |
| 19:10 |
Bombo |
and Krock :) |
| 19:16 |
Bombo |
next prob |
| 19:16 |
Bombo |
the password screen doesn't seem to work |
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big_caballito[m] |
uh-oh |
| 19:17 |
Bombo |
i try to register a new acount |
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Bombo |
i get the screen to enter the pw after i hit connect |
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Bombo |
i get the virtual keyboard |
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Bombo |
type it in hit ok but the characters won't appear in the input field |
| 19:18 |
Bombo |
not even ***** |
| 19:21 |
Bombo |
well i see a input box with shows *** as i type, (probably local) and in the bg there is a ingame window with an input box and button for registering |
| 19:21 |
Bombo |
that is not receiving the pw from my virtual kb i guess |
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Bombo |
is that a known bug? |
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sfan5 |
once you confirm the "foreground" input box it'll appear in the real box |
| 19:37 |
Bombo |
yes thats's the issue, it won't |
| 19:37 |
Bombo |
after 20 tries i got a pw entered |
| 19:38 |
Bombo |
but i tried to register another user now, and same prob, the fg pw doesn't get through to the bg box |
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sfan5 |
huh |
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Bombo |
hm when i tap 3 times into the green pw box it sometimes works |
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MTDiscord |
<Knot Abbot> I don't get it either, I had an issue on the forums about that, but 5.3.0 didn't fix it sadly, I'm only able to type in the username, the password never appears sadly. |
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daiNoZord |
bringing two worlds together - does anyone use the IRC mod? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> according to servers.minetest.net/list 40 servers use the irc mod |
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daiNoZord |
aha thanks |
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daiNoZord |
Im having trouble: /home/dai/Desktop/minetest/mods/LuaIRC/luairc/doc |
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daiNoZord |
nope wrong copy |
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daiNoZord |
wont copy |
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daiNoZord |
undefined symbol:lua_gettop |
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daiNoZord |
in usr/lib/x86_64linux-gnu/lua/5.1/socket/core.so |
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sfan5 |
your minetest is very likely *not* using the system-wide lua |
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sfan5 |
the hard part about this is that you need to install the socket library to exactly match the Lua installation used by Minetest |
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sfan5 |
which is most likely your system-wide LuaJIT |
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daiNoZord |
because it's run-in-place? Thats ok its a battle for another day then - I cant edit minetest .conf until i strip my sdd so i cant test it with a global install but this machine wont be my server in the end anyway. Thanks for the tip |
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sfan5 |
no that's irrelevant |
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daiNoZord |
oh right - luajit, luarocks, luasocket all installed - how do i point minetest to them then? |
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daiNoZord |
i only followed the wiki |
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sfan5 |
no no it's not that easy |
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sfan5 |
you might have Lua 5.1 and LuaJIT on your system, both are *separate* Lua installations |
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sfan5 |
if you install luasocket for lua5.1 but Minetest uses luajit, it won't work |
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sfan5 |
maybe the wiki got this right already, but that's something I'd find out first |
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daiNoZord |
i was just looking thru google at "downloading luasocket for luajit" .. not much |
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