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Gustavo6046 |
I dug far down, plopped a bunch of ladders |
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Gustavo6046 |
now I have to go up all of them |
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Gustavo6046 |
but I cannot leave it going up while I check another window |
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Gustavo6046 |
if I unfocus it stops :/ |
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Gustavo6046 |
to be fair, I wouldn't walk while talking ingame, so going up ladders while talking elsewhere would make less sense, I guess |
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Swift110-mobile |
have you done any more books Krock |
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Swift110-mobile |
? |
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Zughy[m]1 |
is there a way to redefine the hand per player at runtime? |
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sfan5 |
you can swap out the hand for any item at runtime |
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sfan5 |
but as you probably know, you can't define new items at runtime |
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Zughy[m]1 |
can you give me a hint about that swap thing? (please) |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/b28749057a614075c1f9ba3f96bb86a6e248a210/doc/lua_api.txt#L3057-L3059 |
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FrostRanger[m] |
Bit of an odd question, but does anyone know of a way to convert .x files to b3d files? I'm trying to work on converting nssm to mobkit and I have no idea how well .x files would work here |
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FrostRanger[m] |
in any case, I'd imagine it'd be less awkward to work with b3d files than .x files |
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Guest22 |
Can someone knowledgable check out this site to see if they are distributing malware? It claims to have version 5.4.0 of Minetest for download, but I thought 5.3.0 was the latest version. Usually someone faking a newer version from a non-legit site is a sign of malintent: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5585-minetest.html |
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Guest22 |
And while I'm here, does anyone know of a mod that remembers user names for logging in without having to remember them all? Something like a drop down list of all previously used login names would be great. |
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sfan5 |
5.4.0 is not released yet but they could have packaged the release candidate or similar |
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sfan5 |
okay the version number is just wrong, if you click on the download link for windows you get the exact same ZIP you'd download from minetest.net |
| 12:16 |
Guest22 |
Ok, well that's what made it suspicious to me. |
| 12:17 |
Guest22 |
Anyone know of a mod like what I'm looking for? |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> Guest22 i am writing a password manager + launcher for minetest |
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Guest22 |
I hope it's better than the one I checked out earlier that stores passwords in a plain text file. I'd never use that. |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> however, progress is slow, so it will take a few weeks before i can make a real public release |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> and it stores it in a sqlitecb with chacha20 encryption |
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Guest22 |
without salt? |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> with salt lol |
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Guest22 |
That seems pretty easy to reverse if not. |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> heheh |
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Guest22 |
ok. |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> i take my responsibilities as a dev seriously |
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ronoaldo |
Hello there! I achieved 100% translation fot pt-BR :D |
| 12:20 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> and do not let bad/useless stuff out of my machine |
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Guest22 |
Can I use your mod without saving passwords if I only want to to save my username? |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> its not a mod lol |
| 12:20 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> its a full blown application |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> that bundles its own engine etc |
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rubenwardy |
Guest22: if you hash passwords in a password manager then you can't use the password |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> writtenin Qt + Python |
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rubenwardy |
like, hashes are irreversible by design |
| 12:21 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> rubenwardy: hashing != encryption |
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rubenwardy |
exactly |
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Guest22 |
I didn't want to save my passwords, just my usernames on a drop down list inside the minecraft client server page |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> chacha20 is reversible |
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rubenwardy |
encryption is reversible with the key |
| 12:21 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> hm |
| 12:21 |
rubenwardy |
but hashing is not |
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anuke[m] |
then its not a hash |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> exactly |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> no one claimed it was, did they? |
| 12:22 |
rubenwardy |
Guest22 mentioned salting the passwords and said "That seems pretty easy to reverse if not." |
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rubenwardy |
which is why I said "if you hash passwords in a password manager then you can't use the password" |
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anuke[m] |
you can |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> well, KDF's use a salt too |
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Guest22 |
The game already remembers the last used username, why can't it remember all my usernames in a drop down list, with a little x in case I want to delete them? Honestly I feel it should have been built in like that. |
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anuke[m] |
use the hashes as the password |
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Guest22 |
So maybe it can be taken as a recommendation to a dev now. |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> and IV's are arguably like salts, but not exactly |
| 12:23 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> Guest22: since ye mention it, i will try to add it into my launcher |
| 12:23 |
rubenwardy |
if you're going to hash the passwords then you might as well randomly generate them |
| 12:23 |
Guest22 |
What operating system is your launcher made for? |
| 12:23 |
Guest22 |
I never use Windows. |
| 12:23 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> it should be crossplatform, but works only on linux |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> and, no, it is not yet "public" |
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anuke[m] |
yes |
| 12:24 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> i am still working on it |
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anuke[m] |
randomly generating passwords is good |
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Guest22 |
But why make it a separate software and not add it to the minetest client built in? |
| 12:24 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> but not very portable |
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anuke[m] |
just encrypt them with the de's keychain |
| 12:24 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> thats because i have zero interest in formspecs |
| 12:24 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> and would rather go with $widgeting toolchain |
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Guest22 |
To be honest I've never used a password manager in all my life. I don't trust them. |
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anuke[m] |
why not |
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rubenwardy |
" it should be crossplatform, but works only on linux" is also how I do software |
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anuke[m] |
keepassxc is free software |
| 12:25 |
anuke[m] |
if you dont trust it rtfsc |
| 12:26 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> anuke: different DE's have different API's i have no interest in checking for the million ones |
| 12:26 |
rubenwardy |
You can have local-only password managers if you don't trust sync |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> yeah |
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anuke[m] |
yeah |
| 12:26 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> thats what i am doing |
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Guest22 |
Any password saved on a computer is temptation to a good cracker. |
| 12:26 |
rubenwardy |
your accounts are much much more likely to be compromised by reusing passwords than from your password manager |
| 12:26 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> ^ |
| 12:26 |
Guest22 |
I never reuse passwords either. |
| 12:26 |
rubenwardy |
(x) doubt |
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anuke[m] |
40 char passphrase locking 256 byte random password database |
| 12:26 |
Guest22 |
I have a good memory. |
| 12:26 |
anuke[m] |
lol |
| 12:27 |
Guest22 |
I doubt mind if you doubt it or not ruby, I'm not here to impress you. |
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rubenwardy |
even if you do have different passwords, I doubt the entropy is that good |
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anuke[m] |
if youre not using random passwords wyd |
| 12:27 |
anuke[m] |
keepassxc has a button for it ffs |
| 12:27 |
rubenwardy |
basically yeah |
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Guest22 |
As I just said: I don't mind if you doubt it. That's your issue, not mine. |
| 12:27 |
rubenwardy |
Well anyway, yo do you |
| 12:28 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> i prefer xkcd ish passwords |
| 12:28 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> you know, correcthorsebatterysrtaple |
| 12:28 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> and the like |
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Guest22 |
You're one of those cocky guys who thinks he knows everything, I've read your posts on many forums as well. |
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anuke[m] |
thats good for locking your database |
| 12:29 |
anuke[m] |
you can afford to not use random bullshit password for database as its local |
| 12:29 |
rubenwardy |
jesus, there's no need for a personal attack |
| 12:29 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> yeah, but for the sketchy sites, best to go with what keepassx suggests |
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Guest22 |
ok ruby warden. |
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anuke[m] |
calm down |
| 12:29 |
Guest22 |
But I'm not Jesus, even if I am fairly holy. |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> good for you |
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anuke[m] |
gg |
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rubenwardy |
? |
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rubenwardy |
I think I may have been rude which wasn't intended, a better way of phrasing would have been "It's hard for anyone to make and remember truly random and different passwords for all the sites you use, this is something a password manager is intended to do" |
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ronoaldo |
I use lastpass currently, and yet I got some exposed passwords already from data leaks ... |
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ronoaldo |
password reuse is the worst think that could happen, combined with password patterns... |
| 12:57 |
ronoaldo |
if a leaked passowrd revels a pattern you use to make your passwords mnemonic, you are the risk because attackers can build targeted dictionary attacks |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, it's worth signing up to haveibeenpwned too |
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rubenwardy |
lastpass probably uses haveibeenpwned to check for exposed emails and passwords |
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ronoaldo |
I'm not sure if lastpass is the best option... but it's the most convenient for me (cross devices, cross OS, linux and Android support) |
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ronoaldo |
yeah, I had a few times :-/ |
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anuke[m] |
keepass is free software |
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anuke[m] |
use anything you want to sync it |
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anuke[m] |
or just have it on a central server using a vpn if you need to access it away from home |
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ronoaldo |
i used it with keepassdroid... and having it keep in sync without losing data was a mess |
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ronoaldo |
I went from lastpass -> keepass -> back to lastpass due to some passwords being lost with my attempt at multi-device sync |
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ronoaldo |
browser support was also not very good, with passifox or the equivalent for chrome |
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raynoldHU |
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FrostRanger[m] |
I use keepassxc and keepassdx on android |
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ronoaldo |
FrostRanger[m]: do you have some sort of sync for your db? |
| 13:09 |
FrostRanger[m] |
yes, i use nextcloud |
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FrostRanger[m] |
haven't ran into any issues with that so far |
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ronoaldo |
cool! I'll check them out then! nextcloud is new to me :) |
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FrostRanger[m] |
you will have to self host nextcloud though |
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FrostRanger[m] |
it's not hard, but it is an extra step |
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ronoaldo |
got it |
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ronoaldo |
Am i correct to say that NextCloud is sort of a Google Drive replacement, which I host by myself? |
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FrostRanger[m] |
basically, yes |
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sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
!op |
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anuke[m] |
bruh |
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anuke[m] |
why would someone fall for that |
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anuke[m] |
oh random bot joined and said this channel is dead, better believe it and not anyone else |
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anuke[m] |
seeya guys |
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sfan5 |
the intention is to annoy, not for anyone to fall for it |
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anuke[m] |
waste of time |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, any to get people to go to that channel and complain |
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FrostRanger[m] |
there are a lot of trolls who evidently have nothing better to do than get on people's nerves |
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FrostRanger[m] |
whether it's a waste of time or not means nothing to them |
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MinetestBot |
[git] TotalCaesar659 -> minetest/minetest: Update URLs to HTTPS (#10923) 9736b9c https://git.io/JtoCj (2021-02-10T13:34:21Z) |
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definitely_a |
What happened? Bots? |
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Krock |
yes |
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Sven_vB |
in a punch node event handler, how can I check whether the punching player stands atop the punched node? |
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Sven_vB |
(modding in 5.3.0) |
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Sven_vB |
(server-side) |
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sfan5 |
if player:get_pos().y > pos.y + 0.5 then |
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sfan5 |
not accurate enough? |
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Sven_vB |
how do I get that player ref? |
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Extexo |
In the punch node event |
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Sven_vB |
oh I see it's the 3rd arg... then my logging is broken. |
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Sven_vB |
thanks! |
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Extexo |
Does anybody know if it Is possible to have a line break in a formspec list item? |
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Extexo |
textlist* |
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Krock |
no. you'll need a textarea or elements in a scroll container |
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Krock |
you can put \n in textlists, but that won't work as expected |
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Extexo |
Yeah it just goes off into the next textlist item |
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Extexo |
So there's no way to do it? |
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Extexo |
So the textlist items are a set size? |
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Krock |
^ |
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Extexo |
Oof |
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Sven_vB |
do we have a Markdown-rendered version of doc/lua_api.txt somewhere? |
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rubenwardy |
https://minetest.gitlab.io/minetest/ |
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Sven_vB |
thanks! |
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