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<jordan4ibanez> Extremely specific, with move_to could there be more options? Like the speed of interpolation, and delete upon interpolation? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> pretty sure interpolation is intended to take 1 tick, and to delete after, I guess ... just delete on the next on_step? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I'll be surprised if anyone is eager to expand the existing API to add any kind of convenience features though |
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<jordan4ibanez> Yes the only issue with that is that the client doesn't see the interpolation even happen if you go on the next tick in a server and half the time in a singleplayer environment, it just disappears. Oh well |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> yeah, and doing all that from the server-side, network jitter could eat up the entire effect, as well as out-of-order packet arrival |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> guys, how can i register my own formspec list (inventory)?? |
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sfan5 |
if you need a per-player inventory list you can just call set_size to create it |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> thx |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/827874179965517854/unknown.png |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> what does this mean |
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<Danil_2461> how do i fix it |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> well uhm |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> either you omit the last thing |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> (;0) |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> or you upgrade to 5.5-dev |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> ohk |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> how the fuck do i stop anims from playing |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> or set a anim |
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sfan5 |
was that possible in 5.4? dunno |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> aa |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> dammit! |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> minetest.register_on_joinplayer( set_list(armor, armor), set_size(armor, 4) ) why it give eror |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/827882253065125959/unknown.png |
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hlqkj |
minecraft game... already love it 0\ |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> yes |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> i am trying to recreate alpha 1.0.0 in mt |
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<Danil_2461> plsss help somebody |
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Fixer |
redcrab posted :o |
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VanessaE |
shocking huh |
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DivideByZero |
Having some issues with this line in my code, if someone can provide some input: if minetest.get_node_or_nil(pos).name == "air" then |
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DivideByZero |
client side scripting |
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DS-minetest |
if minetest.get_node_or_nil, you'll have an "attempt" to index a nil value |
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DivideByZero |
error is: attempt to access a nil value |
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DS-minetest |
s/_nil/_nil returns nil/ |
| 16:32 |
DivideByZero |
attempt to index* a nil value |
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Krock |
".name" |
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Krock |
this is the problem |
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DivideByZero |
I'm trying to get the name of the node at the position |
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Krock |
"get_node_or_nil()" returns nil and you attempt to index it with ["name"] |
| 16:33 |
Krock |
then just use get_node(pos) |
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DivideByZero |
.get_node() seems no longer available |
| 16:33 |
Krock |
lolwhat |
| 16:33 |
Krock |
it definitely is |
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DivideByZero |
for client side? it's not in the doc |
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DivideByZero |
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/minetest/minetest/master/doc/client_lua_api.txt |
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DS-minetest |
true |
| 16:34 |
Krock |
oh well then |
| 16:34 |
Krock |
local mynode = minetest.get_node_or_nil(pos) |
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Krock |
local name = mynode and mynode.name or "ignore" |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> minetest.get_node_or_nil(pos) or {name = "ignore", param2=0} |
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DS-minetest |
local function get_node(...) return get_node(...) or {name = "ignore", param1=0, param2=0} end |
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DivideByZero |
local function get_node(...) return get_node(...) or {name = "ignore", param1=0, param2=0} end |
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DS-minetest |
oops |
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DivideByZero |
still getting a nil valkue error |
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DS-minetest |
/s/n get_node/n minetest.get_node_or_nil |
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appguru |
DS-minetest: at that point get_node == minetest.get_node :P |
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DS-minetest |
yes |
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DS-minetest |
that was the point |
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DivideByZero |
Thanks Krock for your suggestion. I'm not getting an error and crashing now. I'm getting "ignore" each time though instead of the node name. |
| 17:15 |
Krock |
wrong position then |
| 17:15 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/88783679cf95803a615b70ed3686daaac65a74a6/minetest.conf.example#L1583-L1599 |
| 17:24 |
DivideByZero |
Krock: You are correct again. :D |
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Krock |
lucky me |
| 17:24 |
DivideByZero |
I'm making progress now. Thank you. |
| 17:25 |
Krock |
for use on servers, check the link above tho |
| 17:25 |
Krock |
some servers restrict CSM functionality |
| 17:25 |
DivideByZero |
I'm doing this on my own personal server so it's ok. |
| 17:25 |
DivideByZero |
I'm going to attempt to make a server mod version of it afterwards as well. |
| 17:25 |
DivideByZero |
And then share on github |
| 17:36 |
DivideByZero |
is there some external MT Lua editor to run code in? I keep reloading my game every time to test a change in code. |
| 17:36 |
DivideByZero |
..for Linux |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> I think there is a testing system for MT mods on LuaRocks, if that helps |
| 17:39 |
MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Also, if it's not specific to MT, you can use a regular Lua interpreter or LuaJIT |
| 17:40 |
Krock |
write less errors |
| 17:40 |
Krock |
or wrap them into pcall() |
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DS-minetest |
use luacheck to avoid runtime errors without testing |
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DivideByZero |
Thank you all for the suggestions. |
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erlehmann |
hey just a question |
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erlehmann |
why is anticheat so stupid |
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erlehmann |
like it prevents my entirely legitimate teleporters to work in mineclone2 |
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sfan5 |
huh? |
| 17:55 |
erlehmann |
sfan5, mesecons is bugged to hell and mcl2 redstone is a copy of that |
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erlehmann |
sfan5, and anticheat has a speed limit horizontally |
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erlehmann |
like more than 5 m/s and you get rubberbanded |
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erlehmann |
or sth like that |
| 17:55 |
erlehmann |
what i'm saying is is there an anticheat that works with game physics defying mesecons/redstone automatons? |
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sfan5 |
are pistons involved? |
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erlehmann |
kiiiinda |
| 17:56 |
erlehmann |
hehe |
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sfan5 |
or whatever else generates movement |
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erlehmann |
pistons and oscillators and other stuff |
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erlehmann |
so players can be pushed if the ground moves, but not pulled |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> anticheat makes boats rubberband in mtg as well ?♂️ |
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erlehmann |
sfan5, the solution is easy, make a redstone device that oscillates the ground back and forth very fast |
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erlehmann |
it also makes minecarts rubberband |
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erlehmann |
sfan5 the trick is to get it tickless |
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erlehmann |
sfan5 or rather, get it all in 1 tick |
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erlehmann |
sfan5 cause redstone is not executing in lockstep, but async, so you can kinda glitch it |
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erlehmann |
its probably not as impressive as the thing where you can do a lua stack overflow from inside the game (find a function that does recursive calls, make a device that triggers it a bunch of times) |
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erlehmann |
but its very useful |
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erlehmann |
sfan5, coincidentally, the shitty redstone/mesecons also means my anxiety machines do not work |
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erlehmann |
imagine 2 pistons |
| 17:59 |
erlehmann |
both same input, but one input is NOTed with a torch |
| 17:59 |
erlehmann |
on one piston a redstone block, on the other TNT |
| 17:59 |
erlehmann |
so when i switch the power, those should update at the same time! |
| 17:59 |
erlehmann |
but no |
| 17:59 |
erlehmann |
the TNT ignites |
| 17:59 |
erlehmann |
and blows up the machine |
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erlehmann |
bc they do not update at the same time |
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erlehmann |
sfan5, any idea how to execute ABMs in lockstep? |
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erlehmann |
sfan5, like that they all execute based on the prev world state and set the next |
| 18:01 |
sfan5 |
hold |
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erlehmann |
i mean |
| 18:01 |
sfan5 |
hold on* |
| 18:01 |
sfan5 |
do those mechanics even use ABMs? |
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erlehmann |
probably not |
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erlehmann |
i looked into mesecons and it uses a VM with voxelmanip? |
| 18:01 |
erlehmann |
and writeback or sth |
| 18:01 |
erlehmann |
its still cursed |
| 18:01 |
sfan5 |
that's orthogonal |
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DS-minetest |
what is "lockstep"? |
| 18:02 |
erlehmann |
in mesecons/redstone, if you power something with two inputs and rapidly oscillate both, you can end up in an impossible state where the thing is powered even though the inputs are off |
| 18:02 |
sfan5 |
and to the earlier thing: mesecons will be using add_player_velocity() to push the player somewhere, anticheat remembers that so it shouldn't trigger when you have achieved 5m/s by non-cheaty means |
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erlehmann |
DS-minetest, so all blocks update at the same time like a cellular automaton |
| 18:03 |
sfan5 |
that sounds like a feature mesecons could only provide itself |
| 18:03 |
sfan5 |
back to player velocity: it hasn't been tested in advanced cases though so who knows maybe it is buggy |
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erlehmann |
sfan5 yeah but what if i managed to get pushed by several pistons within 1 mesecon tick |
| 18:03 |
sfan5 |
shouldn't make a difference |
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erlehmann |
sfan5, which i have, indeed, managed |
| 18:03 |
erlehmann |
its how the teleporter works |
| 18:03 |
erlehmann |
hmmm |
| 18:03 |
erlehmann |
so what you are saying is |
| 18:04 |
erlehmann |
if i exceed the speed limit it is bc add_player_velocity() was not called often enough? |
| 18:04 |
erlehmann |
i'll try that out |
| 18:04 |
erlehmann |
and report back |
| 18:04 |
sfan5 |
well no, if that doesn't get called then you wouldn't be moving |
| 18:05 |
erlehmann |
but the only server with long teleporter lines i know has had anticheat turned off |
| 18:05 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/cf64054390970f3cf974afb2b174340a3e1da382 |
| 18:05 |
sfan5 |
here's the best overview |
| 18:06 |
sfan5 |
content_sao.cpp remembers which speed you were pushed with and tries to take that into account for anticheat |
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sfan5 |
looking at it again I can't figure out wtf the m_max_speed_override_time calculation is doing |
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erlehmann |
> Adds to player velocity, this happens client-side |
| 18:10 |
erlehmann |
anticheat happens server side |
| 18:10 |
erlehmann |
checkmate |
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erlehmann |
(i have no idea) |
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erlehmann |
sfan5, can you come to a server and i show you? |
| 18:11 |
erlehmann |
what kind of device i mean |
| 18:11 |
erlehmann |
or rather |
| 18:11 |
erlehmann |
lets not do it, i need to figure out more about the code |
| 18:11 |
erlehmann |
i built a test case |
| 18:11 |
erlehmann |
and report back |
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sfan5 |
sure |
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sfan5 |
it might be an engine bug after all |
| 18:14 |
sfan5 |
we'll see |
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TechDude |
Hi |
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TechDude |
i have a suggestion for the minetest engine |
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TechDude |
its called “sound muffling” |
| 19:13 |
TechDude |
I was startled by a zombie moaning underground when I was above ground a few blocks up |
| 19:13 |
TechDude |
in mineclone2 |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> -> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues |
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TechDude |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11164 |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> people who react to there own issues/PR's are low key annoying tbh |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> guys.. is there a way to set what anim should the model play? (talking about the model formspec model[]) |
| 19:22 |
DS-minetest |
> Objects That Absorb Sound |
| 19:22 |
DS-minetest |
https://vimeo.com/77647572#t=234s |
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DS-minetest |
!title |
| 19:23 |
MinetestBot |
DS-minetest: Look Around you 7 - Iron on Vimeo |
| 19:23 |
DS-minetest |
Did anyone yet make a Bumcivilian mod yet? |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> I'm just going to bring this back up - https://github.com/Desour/minetest/commit/53de1f4b88e5aae00efa22c9fe929bcd764abb54 |
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DS-minetest |
^ I'm currently too lazy to finish that. |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> You can do it, I believe in you |
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DS-minetest |
thanks! but I estimate the effort per probability of merge ratio pretty low, so I will need to get more bored to continue that. sorry. |
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erlehmann |
TechDude, zombie moaning is bugged since forever, they are always too loud |
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rubenwardy |
When I first played Minetest, I accidentally got a zombie stuck in walls. I could hear the moaning |
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rubenwardy |
The house burnt down soon after, it was made entirely of wood and I built a fireplace |
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DS-minetest |
once when I've captured a guest into a grave, I couldn't hear anything |
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DS-minetest |
heh, my first house was also built entirely out of wood, and burned. I've used the mapgen'ed stone as floor |
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FrostRanger[m] |
my first build was tower made of gold and diamond blocks |
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FrostRanger[m] |
this was also before I figured out how to give myself fly... |
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FrostRanger[m] |
needless to say it was ugly |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> my first build was a brick house |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> a tiny brick house |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> i didnt know how to give myself fly too |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> My first house was either a cobble shack or a mineshaft. |
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MTDiscord |
<Danil_2461> lol |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> The latter has been phased out in favor of cabins, but the former is still very much a thing. |
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MTDiscord |
<Emojidiscord> The newest commit of MT and Irrlicht makes the program directly Segment Faulted. MT version: Minetest 5.5.0-dev-0d90ed6d9 (Linux) Using Irrlicht 1.9.0mt2 Using LuaJIT 2.1.0-beta3 BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_GETTEXT=1 USE_SOUND=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 STATIC_SHAREDIR="." STATIC_LOCALEDIR="locale" |
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MTDiscord |
<Emojidiscord> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/828051175412465744/unknown.png |
